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Midnight Commander Development Revived
richlv writes "Popular Unix console file manager Midnight Commander has experienced a stall for the last few years. Most distributions (including the conservative Slackware) shipped patched packages or snapshots. Despite that, everybody had a favorite bug or two — either inability to specify ssh connection port, or problems with interrupted FTP sessions. Or maybe copying of larger datasets. Or maybe the infamous 'shell is still active' message, which often brought unexpected changes of current directory with it. Whatever it was, we either cursed it every time, or learned to live with it. It seems that finally something many were waiting for has happened — there's some activity on mc development. Check out the new homepage, and let's hope revival is both healthy and lengthy."
Yes, and let's welcome them back by taking down their webserver.
Nice job.
Yes, and let's welcome them back by taking down their webserver.
Nice job.
Seriously, three comments and the server's already 500ing?!? I had to get Winnertz Patrick's phone number from the whois information and call him to ask about the new MC.
It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.
I'm still waiting for a restart on wmaker's development. anyone have any news about it ?
What ? Me, worry ?
I love mc!
I use it all the time for patch management. One little tidbit that most people do not know about mc is that you can cd into a patch. Edit the diffs in the patch, and copy a diff from one patch to another patch file, just like copying or moving a file.
Steven Rostedt
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Yeah! Let's post about some obscure piece of software so unused not even unemployed open sores "programmers" want to touch it.
Congratulations, you have officially identified yourself as completely clueless.
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Seriously, three comments and the server's already 500ing?!? I had to get Winnertz Patrick's phone number from the whois information and call him to ask about the new MC.
So not only is their server going to be down, but now their Web admin's phone is going to be ringing off the hook!
Way to go, dude.
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Midnight Commander is one of the tools that I could live without, but I sure wouldn't want to. I use it all over the place ... on the Solaris servers and my Windows XP workstation here at work, on my Linux, OS/2, and Windows boxes at home, on my Nokia 770 tablet, etc.
It makes it easier to delete files and directory trees with certainty (and accuracy!), the built-in editor is good enough for modifying shell scripts and even making moderate code changes to more involved programs, its built-in FTP capability is invaluable when one has to flip a lot of files or directories between hosts, and its customizable menus and panelization capabilities can add some fairly powerful capabilities to even the most dedicated command-line user.
I love my Midnight Commander! :-)
Mainframe/UNIX Bit Twiddler and long time Windows/Linux Hobbyist.
The Theorem Theorem: If If, Then Then.
What kind of minimum installation includes midnight commander but doesn't include cp?
Do you even lift?
These aren't the 'roids you're looking for.
...To mistype "mv".
Seriously, I can't say much about the merits of Midnight Commander as an actual program, but for years I've not-so-silently cursed it for its choice of executable names.
My god, it's full of code!
It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.
So Lame and Predictable walk into this bar...
It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.
The cp command doesn't allow for the arbitrary point-and-shoot selection of files to copy, and it also doesn't have some of the more useful related functionality (e.g., directory comparison) that I use all the time in mc.
It's an *addition* to the standard admin toolset, not a replacement. IMO.
Mainframe/UNIX Bit Twiddler and long time Windows/Linux Hobbyist.
The Theorem Theorem: If If, Then Then.
Priceless. Dead as a doornail. *sigh* Still, it's nice to see MC being developed again. (Or not see in the case of what we've done to the server. See? This is why we can't have nice things!)
MC is always my go to file manager in Linux. I've tried other graphical clients, and none cut it for ease of use and simplicity.
All hail Midnight Commander's victorious return!
I've spent quite a bit of time on Digg, and I can tell you that Digg is not a technology site. It's a social networking site where users share the latest and greatest information in whatever area suites their fancy. As Slashdot's tagline "News for Nerds" suggests, Slashdot is for nerds. Midnight Commander news is certainly nerdy and therefore on topic.
Furthermore, the "Stuff that matters" part is intended to assure that Slashdot news won't be quite a banal as Digg's news. Digg users may care that user X just managed to get a four day old story to "pop", but the world outside of Digg's user-networks really doesn't care.
So with all respect intended, your complaints are duly noted and ignored. Now get off my lawn, ya' darn kids!
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I would rather have these programmers focus their efforts on Krusader ? It seriously needs some love.
Ah, again the myth that open source developers are a free workforce you can redirect between projects on your whim... It just doesn't go like that, people work on whatever happens to interest them at the time.
(this comes from another Krusader user btw - by the look of their web page, they seem to be doing alright)
Save your wrists today - switch to Dvorak
Do text apps still have a place in today's world?
Not on the desktop, but there are large number of computer users who work on headless computers, and frankly don't want anything more than a console open with ssh.
I just completed a four year ph.d, during which my *entire* research effort was conducted using a linux cluster to which I connected via putty or bash, depending on where I was.
Yes I know, and so did my colleagues, that its possible with todays faster conection speed to run a gui over that connection, but why bother when you can already get so much done in a console window?
I use GUI apps a lot, they have an important place in the world of modern computing, but so do CLI apps.
A learning experience is one of those things that say, 'You know that thing you just did? Don't do that.' - D. Adams
Server is down...anyone have screenshots?
... Lame fell over and Predictable smiled.
Sorry for this.
There are currently over 2000 different IPs online on the webserver _per minute_. We are currently looking for a solution to fix this as fast as possible :S Sorry for the downtime (and thanks for your excellent DoS! :))
> The two programs that drive me bonkers are mc and vi. Why?
> because I'm not savvy to their syntax and their is no obvious way
> to get out of them once you launch them.
So F10 for QUIT is too hard, especially when it's actually printed on the key bar (which in every distro I tried was always set to be displayed by default)?
C'mon man...
The choice of tools that one has is rarely an either/or choice.
That's why I tend to write a mix of shell scripts, Perl, and C code depending on the task at hand.
It's also why I sometimes use Midnight Commander to perform tasks which I could also manage using other (and often simpler) tools. Sometimes file copies in the morning go astray -- I find this happens less often when I use a tool which explicitly shows me the destination. Sometimes using a color-coded editor is nice when my eyes are tired and I'm not on a server which has vim installed (that means most of them here).
It's Windows mentality to assume that there's only one solution for the job, it's not UNIX mentality. :-)
Mainframe/UNIX Bit Twiddler and long time Windows/Linux Hobbyist.
The Theorem Theorem: If If, Then Then.
Okay.. thanks for taking down my/our webserver.. however most of the people will be interested in the sourcecode (at least I hope so).
For those which only want to have the code, please have a look on this git mirror:
http://repo.or.cz/w/midnight-commander.git
as I've currently took down the webserver because it makes no sense to let him running this way. I'll search for a solution as fast as possible.
Greetings
Patrick Winnertz
on behalf of the MC Development Team
Okay, now transfer this six-level-deep application directory tree to the new server using only the command-line ftp client found on a vanilla Solaris 8 server.
There are many ways to do that.
Easy: tar, ftp, tar /dest /source ; tar -cf - * ) | ssh dest 'cd dir ; tar -xf -'
No disk space: NFS mount, find source | cpio -pmudv
Crazy: dd over netcat
Encrypted for the internet: ( cd
MC isn't the only way to copy files, it isn't even a good way to copy files.
How about a "Top 5 greatest Linux file managers that you should use" with full res HD 1080p screenshot per page with a stupid concl-... er...
*Ducks and runs*
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Sorry for this.
There are currently over 2000 different IPs online on the webserver _per minute_.
Welcome to 1997.
(oh, wait, this is the Midnight Commander team that we are talking to)
Er, dude, this Slashdot thingi has been doing this to webservers for over a decade now! Good morning, and welcome to 2009!
It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.
I think I've heard this one. Not a fan.
You can FUD like the best of em, I give you that.
I have MCs still running that were started 3 years ago (and used, too !), so bollocks on the crashes.
Corrupts files ? Care to give an example ? At least I have not run into such a bug.
I'll give GnuIT another look. Last time I tried it, I went back to mc.
While I'll be glad to see the resurrection of Midnight Commander, I'm not chomping at the bit because I think that the Worker file manager is a much better alternative. Its design will be immediately recognizable to those who have spent any time with the Amiga because it is based on (which is a nice way of saying it's a virtual copy of) Directory Opus. Check it out. You won't be disappointed.
Except that if you're running MC in gnome-terminal, F10 doesn't work (it brings up the window menu. Now you might say why am I running MC in GT, but we all know that linux users can't stay away from the command line...
You can get it working by right-clicking on the terminal, and unchecking Show Menubar. Then F10 works.