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Red Dwarf To Return, Find Earth

Lawrence Person writes "Everyone's favorite live-action science fiction comedy series will finally return to TV, with Lister, Rimmer, Kryten and the Cat all making it to Earth. The new two-part series Red Dwarf: Back to Earth will appear on digital channel Dave, will be written and directed by Red Dwarf co-creator Doug Naylor, and will reunite the line-up. 'It will sit alongside two further new episodes — the improvised Red Dwarf: Unplugged, which will feature the cast dealing with no sets, effects or autocue, and Red Dwarf: the Making of Back to Earth, a behind the scenes look at the new production.' Personally, I think this is pretty smegging fantastic."

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  1. They did the same thing on Lexx by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Usually these sort of "and then they came to earth..." plotlines are cost-cutting measures (so they can shoot in "regular" locations instead of on elaborate sets). They also often represent "jump the shark" moments for a series. When they did this on Lexx, the show (which had already begun to go way downhill in the previous season) went from bad to ABYSMAL.

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    1. Re:They did the same thing on Lexx by Bemopolis · · Score: 4, Funny

      Clearly you have forgotten the brilliance that was BATTLESTAR GALACTICA 1980.

      And I would be a lot better off if you tell me how you managed it.

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    2. Re:They did the same thing on Lexx by Aneurysm · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Usually these sort of "and then they came to earth..." plotlines are cost-cutting measures (so they can shoot in "regular" locations instead of on elaborate sets).

      Not sure this really matters. Red Dwarf has always been low budget, and the later series (7+8 and to a lesser extent 6) where more money was thrown at it also corresponded with a huge dip in funniness. Generally speaking the same few rooms are used on the ship or often just Starbug. Growing up in the UK you get used to low budget comedies and high budget stuff just doesn't have quite the right feel; Red Dwarf always used to be perfect, incredibly low budget and relying just on script and actors to make it enjoyable. My favourite Red Dwarf episode ever was Marooned and that's just Lister and Rimmer in a single part of Starbug for the whole episode (with a Thunderbirds style crash at the beginning).

  2. Re:Aged badly by jollyreaper · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This series aged badly. Watched a few episodes last year and found them deeply unfunny.

    It's a britcom so of course it'll be a bit campy, a bit odd, and not for everyone.

    What really impressed me was how the Grant and Naylor team wrote the novels as well as the shows. The audiobooks based on the novels were also voice-acted by the original cast.

    Humor is a difficult thing and prose and teleplays are two completely different environments to work in. There's so much to written humor that can simply never be translated to the screen, the classic example from the Hitchhiker's Guide -- "The huge golden space ship hung in the air in almost exactly the way a brick doesn't." How do you convey that visually? You can't, not well. And likewise there's more than just sight gags that simply cannot be done in prose. The easiest example to bring up is the Heath Ledger Joker. So much of that performance wasn't just what he said but how he said it, the mannerisms and expressions. It was both comedic and horrifying.

    What I find impressive is when you have a writer or writers who can take a story and tell it in such diverse media and do it well. Adams was involved in all the HHGTTG variants and, as I said, Grant and Naylor did both the show and the books.

    Anyway, looking forward to these new episodes! Between this and the final movie wrapping up Dead Like Me, looks like we're in for some good telly this year!

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  3. Re:Written by Doug Naylor. So expect crap. by Blue+Stone · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When Rob Grant left, it all went to hell.
    It was a real shame to see a show I loved, grow from very humble beginnings, develop into something delightful (despite its still significant budget restraints) and then have to watch through two agonisingly bad series of death throws.

    It looks like it wasn't quite dead though.

    Quick! Someone get a shovel!

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  4. Re:Aged badly by LordEd · · Score: 5, Funny

    He would have stopped, but the king of the potato people wouldn't let him...

  5. fantastic? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Personally, I think this is pretty smegging fantastic.

    Why is resurrecting Red Dwarf fantastic but resurrecting Blade Runner an abomination?

    1. Re:fantastic? by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why is resurrecting Red Dwarf fantastic but resurrecting Blade Runner an abomination?

      Because the creator of Red Dwarf is alive and well, and is coming back to revive a universe that was created for the purpose of an episodal series.

      The author responsible for Blade Runner (Philip K. Dick) died during production of a standalone movie based on his standalone book. Given that the story (originally "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep") was an exploration of what it means to be human and NOT an exploration of a fantasy future (ala Star Trek, Star Wars, etc.), expanding the universe would only detract from the original creation.

      Besides, Olmos is too old to play Gaff again. He just wouldn't have that same menace about him. ;-)

  6. Rimmer is back! by DarthBender · · Score: 5, Funny

    Puncture repair kit on standby.

  7. Announced on twitter by Tryfen · · Score: 4, Informative

    ...well, actually, Robert Llewellyn (Kryten) announced it on Llewtube quite some time ago.

    You can also get regular updates from him by following @bobbyllew on twitter.

    He's a really good user of social media - he's very active on YouTube and twitter.

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  8. have you actually watched Red Dwarf? by SuperBanana · · Score: 4, Funny

    They also often represent "jump the shark" moments for a series.

    Did you ever watch the show? They jumped the shark at least once an episode. That's part of what made it so great.

  9. Re:Fan-smegging-tastic! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Look, I don't want any toast. In fact, no one around here wants any toast. Not now, not ever. NO TOAST.

  10. Re:Aged badly by ichthyoboy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Mr. Flibble doesn't like it when you stop watching...

  11. Re:Aged badly by jabithew · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I find the biggest difference is that Britcoms are normally about losers. Compare with the US, say 'Friends'. The main characters are very successful; they have lovely flats near Central Park. I find it hard to have empathy with them. Whenever they have a 'problem' I wish they'd just shut up and catch themselves on. They seem like whiney, spoilt, brats.

    Lister, on the other hand, is a slob who lives in an interstellar slum. Yet he always seems pretty chirpy about it. You should check out the US version of Red Dwarf, where some moron at the networks replaced Lister with a super-jock. None of the jokes made sense afterwards.

    Of course, there are good US comedies (normally the cartoons) and there are *loads* of really, really bad Britcoms.

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  12. Re:Aged badly by jeffhoy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Comparing Red Dwarf to Monty Python, HHGG or The Office is an insult to Red Dwarf. The Office is best watched on a weekday evening after a hard day of work. Monty Python is great entertainment with friends on a Saturday afternoon. Red Dwarf is something entirely different.

    Like many Americans I first encountered Red Dwarf on PBS late Saturday evenings. After seeing one episode (Demons & Angels) I was hooked. I was thrilled when Season 1 released on DVD and I watched it through that Saturday afternoon. However, it didn't seem to hold up over the years. I was watching a mediocre British comedy, and quite confused.

    Eventually I realized that Red Dwarf needs to be enjoyed late at night. Like ATHF, it's bizarrely hysterical but only when in a certain mood. Red Dwarf is not meant to be analyzed for plot holes or comedic merit. It's meant to be watched in a dark room, late at night, and alone. Only then does it become a spectacle of incomprehensible British slang, something far greater than it was meant to be.

    Red Dwarf is the only TV series I've purchased on DVD. I've seen the episodes so many times that I remember the audience's laughter. It's no exaggeration to say that it's the best show I've ever seen. But, I can understand that many consider it a mediocre sci-fi comedy. It needs to come with a warning label, "Only watch after 10:00 PM".

  13. Re:Aged badly by Wandering+Wombat · · Score: 4, Funny

    We call them "Americans". It's not their fault.

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