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I'm a PC and I'm 4-1/2

theodp writes "Microsoft's new Windows ad made its debut during the Grammy Awards on Sunday. It stars a 4-year-old cutie named Kylie (Silverlight required) showing how easy it is to use Windows Live Photo Gallery to edit and share photos. And while it's impressive that little Kylie is able to transfer a snapshot of her pet fish from her camera to a PC, color-correct it, and e-mail it to her family, what's truly amazing is that the toddler was also apparently able to read, understand, and accept Windows Live's Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. (But minors can't legally execute contracts, can they?)"

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  1. Dear God! by nog_lorp · · Score: 5, Funny

    "I'm a PC and I'm 4 1/2"
    They're assimilating children to make them smart enough to use their products? MONSTERS!

    1. Re:Dear God! by dhavleak · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I doubt kdawson has actually ever read a complete EULA either -- he simply needed something to bitch about..

    2. Re:Dear God! by sgbett · · Score: 5, Funny

      Quite, my 4 year old has no problem browsing the net on macos, linus or windows. And is particularly takwn with the iphone and the scribble app.

      Reminds me I think I might have to change my pin number when she gets a bit older. Not that I would use the same pin for my bank card as my iphone, thats crazy talk.

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    3. Re:Dear God! by Kokuyo · · Score: 5, Funny

      ...browsing the net on ... linus...

      What, you got Torvalds to babysit your kid?! You ROCK!

    4. Re:Dear God! by Fred_A · · Score: 5, Funny

      Reminds me I think I might have to change my pin number when she gets a bit older.

      It is supposed to be a Personal PIN Number after all...

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    5. Re:Dear God! by CarpetShark · · Score: 3, Funny

      What, you got Torvalds to babysit your kid?! You ROCK!

      Really? I can see it now: Torvalds: "Sure Andreas, I'll take a look." Baby: *climbs on cooker, knocks over pot of boiling water* Torvalds: *distractedly tilts head towards kitchen while battering the keyboard* "Hey kid, what you doing in there?" Baby: *screams horrifically* Torvalds: "Uhh.. sorry Andreas. What was that? Oh, OK. Yeah, no worries, I'll merge it now."

    6. Re:Dear God! by MyLongNickName · · Score: 5, Funny

      I doubt kdawson has ever read a submission in its entirety.

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    7. Re:Dear God! by AikonMGB · · Score: 4, Funny

      Not that I would use the same pin for my bank card as my iphone, thats crazy talk.

      That's only because you know the bank won't let you use 1234 on your card ;)

      1234? That's the stupidest combination I've ever heard in my life! The kind of thing an idiot would have on his bank card!

    8. Re:Dear God! by Tuoqui · · Score: 3, Informative

      Thats ok, I doubt anyone other than Microsoft's Lawyer has read the complete EULA either.

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    9. Re:Dear God! by largoyle · · Score: 5, Funny

      1234? Hey thats the combination on my bank card!

    10. Re:Dear God! by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Funny

      Fortunately, Apple doesn't have any EULAs, TOUs or privacy policies. Those things are icky and Apple is far too progressive and serene to have them.

      If this ad had shown a 4 1/2 year old using an iMac, this discussion would be about how many Peabody Awards it was going to win.

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    11. Re:Dear God! by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Silly rabbit, /. editors can't read. They just mash at the buttons until something happens.

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    12. Re:Dear God! by howlatthemoon · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If this had been done on a Mac it could have been made well before Kylie was born. iPhoto was released in 2002.

    13. Re:Dear God! by initialE · · Score: 3, Funny

      Irony is when you mod a post full of redundancies... well... redundant. You win the Alanis Morisette award congratulations!

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    14. Re:Dear God! by tuxgeek · · Score: 3, Funny

      "I'm a PC and I'm 4 1/2"

      So easy even a child can use it!
      Wow, now I'm impressed. But I believe I have heard that somewhere before ....

      "Build something even a fool can use, and only a fool will use it."
      Now all children can surf all the porn they can handle ... Hmm

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    15. Re:Dear God! by Daniel+Phillips · · Score: 2, Funny

      This is completely believable, I have corroborate it. My 4 year old had her own PC from age of two, because she was causing too much havoc on mine, crashing Firefox regularly with the mouse before learning to walk. She would turn the mini laptop mouse around and use it backwards so she could push the buttons with the palm of her little hand. At three she was able to drag and drop the mustache icons on Mr Potato Guy, with the mouse speed suitably slowed down. At four she has mastered Tuxpaint and is moving on to Inkscape. None of this is the slightest exaggeration. Oh, and don't accept her challenge to two player Snakeball, she will frag you repeatedly.

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    16. Re:Dear God! by sglewis100 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Trovalds isn't the only Linus in the world.

      Trovalds isn't even the Linus you thought you were typing.

    17. Re:Dear God! by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 3, Funny

      Fortunately, Apple doesn't have any EULAs, TOUs or privacy policies. Those things are icky and Apple is far too progressive and serene to have them.

      Actually, Apple EULA is so advanced that it gets uploaded directly to your brain via 25th frame technique when you first boot into OS X. So you may think there's no EULA, but when it comes to a court, and an Apple lawyer says the code word, you'll recite it from your memory entirely.

      As usual, OS X is all about convenience. Why waste time reading EULAs? Direct memory upload is so much more 21st century!

  2. The plot thickens by MichaelSmith · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I clicked the link to install Silverlight (firefox, ubuntu, i386) and got sent to Moonlight.

    1. Re:The plot thickens by IBBoard · · Score: 2, Informative

      Depends on whether you want to view Silverlight stuff on Linux or not. Personally, I'm quite happy with no Silverlight and Gnash for Flash viewing (set to start in "pause" mode).

    2. Re:The plot thickens by noundi · · Score: 5, Funny

      Personally, I'm quite happy with no Silverlight and Gnash for Flash viewing (set to start in "pause" mode).

      So you're saying that we don't need another platform for epelepticly blinking ads that jump around your monitor and covers 90% of the page you're trying to read? This is outrageous!

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    3. Re:The plot thickens by pr100 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Me too, I courageously decided to install the firefox plugin when asked. It restarted firefox... then muttered about installing some codecs, which I also permitted, it then claimed to be restarting firefox again, but apparently just closed it.

      I restarted firefox manually, tried once again to view the link, and was prompted to upgrade my version of silverlight. At this point I gave up...

    4. Re:The plot thickens by Errtu76 · · Score: 4, Informative

      I installed the Moonlight plugin, restarted FF and then it (the plugin) asked me if i wanted to download codecs. As soon as i clicked on Accept firefox crashed. This on Ubuntu 8.10 x86

    5. Re:The plot thickens by aliquis · · Score: 4, Informative

      I downloaded Silverlight in OS X, installed without restarting browser, opened the video clip, this is what happens:

      * I've taken a picture of my fish tank.
      * First I plug this thing in *plugs in USB*
      * Then I make this photo better (or something such), you don't get to see anything worth it in the application, images gets more saturated and better levels.
      * Then I share it with my friends (pre-typed family in a to-field.)
      * I'm 4.5 years old and I'm a PC.

      That's all, the whole thing is over in 15 seconds or so, so unless you enjoy seeing an USB-cable get plugged in, the result of pressing "auto"/"fix it" and how the to fields in an e-mail look you won't be missing anything.

      I've uninstalled Silverlight now ..

    6. Re:The plot thickens by stonedcat · · Score: 5, Funny

      Microsoft has deployed something that doesn't work.

      Well I guess there's a first time for everything.

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    7. Re:The plot thickens by Lachlan+Hunt · · Score: 5, Informative

      Last time I installed Silverlight on my Mac was to stream the Beijing Olympics from NBC, and that was only because I was stuck in a foreign country where it wasn't broadcast in English. I uninstalled it pretty soon after.

      So the bar for me to install Silverlight again is pretty high, and a crappy 30 second Microsoft ad just doesn't cut it.

      Anyway, I found a copy on YouTube, so I can continue to avoid Silverlight a little longer.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtilWL4mnhI

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    8. Re:The plot thickens by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why did you uninstall it after the Olympics?

      Just curious, was it running in the background? Using too many resources while you were waiting for your latte to cool?

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    9. Re:The plot thickens by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Funny

      Damn that Microsoft for making Moonlight, which didn't run on this young man's computer.

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    10. Re:The plot thickens by Lachlan+Hunt · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Because Silverlight is just Microsoft's attempt to take over the web with more proprietary garbage. There's already too much Flash on the web, and I reluctantly have to have that installed. I don't want to see Silverlight become anywhere near as popular. Besides, so far, the only sites I've come across using it are either owned by or affiliated with Microsoft, which makes having it largely unnecessary.

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  3. Bill tightens his fist! by Probie · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm a PC and I'm oppressed.

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    1. Re:Bill tightens his fist! by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well I'm a Linux and I'm depressed.

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    2. Re:Bill tightens his fist! by ionix5891 · · Score: 4, Funny

      its ok have hope 2009 will be the year of the linux :)

  4. Easy to share photo's, difficult to share a movie by captainpanic · · Score: 3, Informative

    Silverlight?
    In the age of Youtube, how hard can it be to share a movie? Why do I have to download a program first? Sorry, but that hasn't happened to me since Youtube was invented... oh, yeah, Youtube and google is the big competition isn't it? :D

  5. What? by zblack_eagle · · Score: 2, Insightful

    what's truly amazing is that the toddler was also apparently able to read, understand, and accept Windows Live's Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. (But minors can't legally execute contracts, can they?)

    What's with this? Seriously, who the hell takes the time to read these things every time they're presented with one? What an unnecessarily snarky summary

    1. Re:What? by N1AK · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm normally the one complaining about the manic MS bashing on /. but I think the summary makes an important point. Even MS advertising completely gloss over the need for users to agree to a set of extensive contracts to use the system, something that a small child certainly isn't able to do.

      It seems somehow wrong to me that it is just accepted that people ignore online contracts, and yet the consequences of breaking those can be severe like with Lori Drew. Although different, it is not altogether unlike using a child in an advert for loans secured on your property "look how easy it is to get that new car, even a kid can manage it".

  6. It's already on youtube, no silverlight! by gsasha · · Score: 5, Informative
    1. Re:It's already on youtube, no silverlight! by KasperMeerts · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Weren't you dead?

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    2. Re:It's already on youtube, no silverlight! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm so glad that Microsoft is the only corporation on the planet to use kids in advertisements to promote a product.

    3. Re:It's already on youtube, no silverlight! by TeknoHog · · Score: 2, Funny

      He's resting, pining for the fjords.

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    4. Re:It's already on youtube, no silverlight! by Speare · · Score: 3, Interesting
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    5. Re:It's already on youtube, no silverlight! by should_be_linear · · Score: 2, Funny

      is it really needed to go into his private issues on public forum?

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    6. Re:It's already on youtube, no silverlight! by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Even in my travels in the real world doing work for Microsoft Shops I haven't seen to many people really that Gung-Ho about Windows (any more). Most of them really don't care what OS they use just as long as they know how to use it, or even know what Windows is as an OS really is or where the OS Starts and the computer ends.
      Most people take it, it is something I need to get what I want done and thats it. I guess there could be a radical subculture that are real huge Windows fans just as they are Linux Zealots on Slashdot and Mac Fanboys. I think most of them were from the Apple vs. IBM days of the 80's Who just couldn't give up their old arguments, as an Mac Owner who back in the 80's and early 90's use to be on the IBM camp, I had to break a promise to myself to never get a Mac, as I needed to realize the Ideals I have fought for have been loss. (Speed of DOS, Shipped with development tools...). Also I think a lot of my Fear of switching went away when I went with Linux back in 1994, where I learned how I could get by without MS. Then with the Mac with OS X with a Unix prompt the last thing I was hating Macs for were gone (or at least a hopeless battle)

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  7. Monkey see, monkey do.. by AlterRNow · · Score: 5, Insightful

    .. does not mean monkey understand.

    This doesn't show it is easy to use, it merely demonstrates the ability of a 4 1/2 year old to follow a set of instructions.

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    1. Re:Monkey see, monkey do.. by bluenovadesign · · Score: 5, Interesting

      My 3 year old monkey(who obviously can't read/write) uses the computer all the time and I'm amazed at what she gets up to (ok she's not posting on slashdot, but give her time). She can switch on, start up the web browser, (her home page is the BBC kids page CBeebies) and she just looks around, finds the games to play, works out what to do and plays them. When she gets bored she goes back and chooses something else - painting a picture, watching a video etc. She only ever asks for help when she gets stuck in a dead end (like when she needs to download an add-on). I imagine the Monkey v4.5 is considerably more advanced.

    2. Re:Monkey see, monkey do.. by db32 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Are you insane?! You can't connect Monkey to the net! Are you TRYING to destroy us all?! I have Monkey 2.5 and she spends most of her time in Gcompris. She liked the little hit both shift keys to roll the ball to tux game. Then she started playing the colored ducky game where it says a color and you click on the duck... Now, a month or two of really playing with it and she knows where more of the games are than I do. Just the other day we caught here playing the letter train game and getting about 80% correct and even then half of the incorrect is done on purpose just to get a reaction out of us watching. Good lord...if I hooked that PC to the net she would be hacking SCADA systems by the end of the week just because she could make the lights flash!

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    3. Re:Monkey see, monkey do.. by windsurfer619 · · Score: 2, Funny

      For a second I thought you really were talking about a pet monkey, and I was very impressed!

  8. Silverlight/Moonlight by Trevelyan · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I have moonlight installed (what ever version Lenny has), and in Firefox add-ons->Plugins its listed as Silverlight Plug-in (1.0.30401.0).

    However when I click play to see that advert it changes to a get Silverlight button.

    I figured since I have flash 10 64bit installed (with flash block), I may as well install moonlight since there is a 64bit Debian package. I am not impressed that MS own website did not recognise it.

    I will also need to find a flashblock equivalent.

  9. I'm a PC and I'm 42 & 3/4 .. by rs232 · · Score: 2, Funny

    When are they going to use endorsements from TronGuy

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  10. Re:Easy to share photo's, difficult to share a mov by ketilwaa · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You are aware that one usually needs to download a flash player to view videos on Youtube, no? This is just a competing format. The main problem with Silverlight from where I sit is that it adds to the bloat, not that I need to download it, or that it comes from Microsoft.

  11. Re:Soo.... by ThaReetLad · · Score: 2, Funny

    Last I checked Kylie was a girls name, so I don't think your accusation against MJ is entirely fair.

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  12. Another biased, hate inspired article by johnsie · · Score: 3, Interesting

    No matter what MS do there is always some conspiracy theorist or Linux/Mac fanboy on the case trying to spin things in a negative way. It gets boring sometimes. Hating on MS wont do you cause any good, it will only show what a bitter personality you have. Get out there and do something postive.

    1. Re:Another biased, hate inspired article by mgblst · · Score: 2, Insightful

      We don't hate Microsoft because of just any old reason, we have really good and strong arguments for hating Microsoft. I would go over the many arguments, but if you don't know them now it is only because of your own ignorance, or you are a fanboy.

      We won't suddenly stop hating Microsoft because they paid some cute kid to advertise their products. We will mistrust them because they deserve out mistrust. We will come up with conspiracy theories because we know and admit to how Microsoft works (Halloween documents anyone? DrDos? etc...).

      So go peddle your pro-Microsoft bullshit somewhere else.

    2. Re:Another biased, hate inspired article by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "People think it's all about misery and desperation and death and all that shite, which is not to be ignored, but what they forget is the pleasure of it. Otherwise we wouldn't do it. After all, we're not fucking stupid. At least, we're not that fucking stupid."

      Mark Renton from Trainspotting on why we bash microsoft.

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    3. Re:Another biased, hate inspired article by fermion · · Score: 2, Interesting
      For a lot of us, the issue is risk assessment. Because we have some skill, and because we do not use any application that requires MS Windows, there is no reason for us to expose ourselves to the risks and added costs of using MS Windows. In my career, such costs and risks have escalated. Ten years ago MS started sending the BSA troops to audit even small businesses, install spyware, and disrupt development for days. This continues with WGA which prevents users from conveniently accessing even critical upgrades to the OS, and increasingly complicated licensing terms that can lead to sudden lack of access to machines. Personally, the risk of my machine not working during a presentation is simply not compensated by the 'ease of use' of windows.

      So, when some one talks about the EULA as a reason not to use MS Windows, that is a valid concern, just like when the complaint is targeted at Apple. The solution in both cases is the same. If the EULA is the issue, don't use the product. In this case, the four year old can't accept the liability, so the parents do. And when the four year old does something to break the license, like when the kid is 10 installs the software on two machines, then the parents will be liable. Frankly the risk of having to pay $250 thousands dollars in fines for my kid stealing software is a good reason to use unencumbered software or if, the EULA is not too scary, pay Apple for a family pack($200 complete set of OS and applications) that can be used on up to five machines around the house. Simply risk assessment.

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  13. I always try to give him benefit of the doubt. by nawcom · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I guess I find article about this ad on Sunday a day or so old, though I won't blame kdawson for that. I guess maybe I feel he is just always lucky to get his name linked to unneeded topics. who knows.

    Personally I am glad that Microsoft (might) get their photo camera integration/editing down for once, as it was always third party apps and utilities given to you, which you would have to punch a screen over. I never had issues with OS X or Linux at all, and I'm speaking about the 2.4 kernel days. gPhoto was what I loved using way more than the shit Olympus or whatever other brand name would give you for software. This was of course serial db9, not today's USB. Oh well, this is my little experience with this type of software, and it's nice hearing Microsoft will take care of things from now on. (I won't lie though, if I am ever in a situation where I need to use Windows AND manage a photo camera, I'll stay with a usb card reader and Google Picasa)

  14. Re:OP is a condescending asshole, and it shows... by loutr · · Score: 3, Informative

    Most (All ?) of the digital cameras I've used are detected by Windows and Linux as USB mass storage devices. Both Gnome/KDE and Windows will pop up a menu asking you what you want to do with it. So it really is about the same level of difficulty under both OSes (except Ubuntu and the like have better picture managers by default).

    As for the 'fixing pic(s)' part I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

    PS : yeah, I know, I know, don't feed the trolls...

  15. Re:OP is a condescending asshole, and it shows... by calmofthestorm · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Roses are red,
    Violets are blue,
    OP is flaimbait,
    but so are you.

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  16. Re:OP is a condescending asshole, and it shows... by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Flame. Stop relying on Spellcheck.

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  17. Oh please... by wbren · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And while it's impressive that little Kylie is able to transfer a snapshot of her pet fish from her camera to a PC, color-correct it, and e-mail it to her family, what's truly amazing is that the toddler was also apparently able to read, understand, and accept Windows Live's Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. (But minors can't legally execute contracts, can they?)

    Really? Out of all the things you could have criticized Microsoft for, you chose the one thing that Microsoft has in common with every other software company (an insane EULA/TOS)?

    That would be like me saying "And while it's impressive that little Kylie is able to transfer a snapshot of her pet fish from her camera to a PC, color-correct it, and e-mail it to her family, what's truly amazing is that someone with an @aol.com email address was able to figure out how to submit a story to /."

    See what I mean? Saying something like that weakens your whole argument... Oops!

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  18. Re:Nauseating by aliquis · · Score: 5, Funny

    Think-Of-The-Children

    Fuck, now you got me horny again.

  19. Re:Nauseating by ta+bu+shi+da+yu · · Score: 3, Informative

    Dude, the "Post Anonymously" checkbox is next to the "No Karma Bonus" button!

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  20. LEAVE MS ALONE!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    I agree with everyone here who is upset with the way Microsoft is being treated on Slashdot.

    How fucking dare anyone out there make fun of Microsoft after all it has been through.!

    They lost their battle with Vista, they had to resurrect XP. They gave birth to Windows fucking 7!

    Their new CEO turned out to be a chair thrower. All you people care about is... Linux and FOSS.

    Microsoft is A HUMAN! (ah! ooh!) What you don't realize is that Microsoft is making you all this money and all you do is write a bunch of crap about it.

    Microsoft hasn't performed on stage in years. Its Songsmith demo-song is called "gimme more" for a reason because all you people want is MORE! MORE-MORE, MORE: MORE!.

    LEAVE MS ALONE! You are lucky they even developed Songsmith for you BASTARDS! LEAVE MICROSOFT ALONE!....Please.

    Steve Jobs talked about professionalism and said if Microsoft was a professional they would've pulled it off with Vista no matter what.

    Speaking of professionalism, when is it professional to publicly bash a corporation who is going through a hard time????

    Leave Microsoft Alone Please. ! Leave Microsoft alone! right now! I mean it.!

    Anyone that has a problem with MS you deal with me, because MS is not well right now.

    LEAVE Microsoft ALONE!

    *sobs*

  21. Re:Nauseating by aliquis · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yeah, guess I should use the no karma bonus-button more often so my OS X bashing don't hurt my karma so bad, right? Because things can't go under -1 anyway so that way I'll lose less?

    Anyway I don't really like being anonymous, I rather post things as the person I am, though I think it was 50% flamebait 50% funny, people who see it as a flamebait don't need to answer and that problem would get solved by itself.

  22. Re:Nauseating by aliquis · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ... and I don't think having a girl in an ad is "child abuse" even though she may not act natural, I doubt she feel abused from doing the ad but may even think it was funny to star in a commercial. So the reason I made the joke was to tear down some of the serious edginess of "omg it's a child in a video! porn! abuse!"

  23. I'm a PC and i come with linux installed ... by noddyxoi · · Score: 4, Interesting

    and therefore, since i haven't payed for anything more than a Personal Computer i'm not a Windows.

  24. Re:OP is a condescending asshole, and it shows... by xstonedogx · · Score: 5, Funny

    As the proud parent of a Linux user I advocate throwing a bare bones slackware install on strange hardware, giving the 4-year-old the root password, and walking away.

    She's six now and she knows if she wants to be networked she has to roll her own cat 5 and figure out the appropriate network settings. She's almost there. (Boy was she mad when she finally figured out I had originally installed token ring on her box!) If she wants internet access she has to hack into the firewall and give herself that access.

    You know, you see them struggling and you really want to help them, but you have to resist the urge. Otherwise they'll never learn!

  25. gah! vomit. by apodyopsis · · Score: 2, Interesting

    gah, I watched the youTube version as there was no way I was installing silverlight at work as it seems like hassle and at home there is no way I am installing Mono.

    seems like a fairly nauseatingly sickening piece of tripe aimed at parents who want their children to be computer literate.

    in my mind the true path to computer literacy lies in a challenge - not locking them into a propietary interface that does all the work. but maybe that is just me. when I began programming I found it was the challenges of what was hard that kept me going back - not the easy pickings.

  26. Windows Vista Graphics Viewer sucks... by Jackie_Chan_Fan · · Score: 5, Funny

    The graphics viewer in Vista and Windows 7, is the most worthless peice of shit ever. It doesnt conform to ANY logical workflow for browsing, zooming, managing files quickly. Its just like its own ass backwards way of doing things.

    Microsoft could learn a lot from studying some of the other viewers out there.

    The graphics viewer doesnt even read a lot of formats used in production environments, nor does it respect embedded ICC color profiles. ITS WORTHLESS.

    Its a toy, just like the media player, the thumbnail viewing capability of explorer... etc.

    Why cant MS make some SERIOUS applications that actually get work done.

    Stop making apps for 4 year olds.

    I'm sure the online Live graphics thing is just as lame. Its another late to the game web service that others already provide and have an established user base and better integration on PCs, mobile devices, etc..

  27. Of course... it is not "using" - PER SE by denzacar · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...If she is not able to code the entire Windows herself on a computer she built using nothing but soldering iron and some bubble gum wrappers.

    Cause... how can we say it is "easy to use" unless she knows EXACTLY what happens with each keystroke she makes?

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  28. pfft, sending pictures... by boredhacker · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...my 4.5 year old can debug a friggin' kernel.

  29. 4 yr old daughter does Ubuntu by knarf · · Score: 2, Informative

    My 4 yr old daughter logs in to her own account on one of the available machines (with password), starts whatever program she wants, saves the results, opens a folder on her desktop to watch one of the available video's and now wants to tag photos in the photo management app.

    This is not your old Windows. This is Gnome on top, GNU in between and Linux underneath. This is Ubuntu. Welcome to the future.

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  30. Of course she is smart enough by Shivetya · · Score: 2, Insightful

    she has not yet entered into public education.

    duh!

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  31. Terms of Use? by airuck · · Score: 3, Funny

    Do you think that a toddler would have an easier time understanding GPL or that she is likely to violate GPL or Microsoft Terms of Use?

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    1. Re:Terms of Use? by slimjim8094 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You can't violate the GPL unless you are modifying and distributing. You can violate an EULA by looking sideways and sneezing.

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  32. Re:OP is a condescending asshole, and it shows... by mspohr · · Score: 2, Informative

    Sorry to disappoint you but Linux is just as easy. On my Ubuntu machines, the camera is recognized when plugged in and f-spot downloads the images (you do have to click the download button), photo manager displays the photos (and yes you can 'fix' them) and you can email from the photo manager. No configuration required.

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  33. Blob drivers. by Benanov · · Score: 2, Informative

    The problem is quite simple--you're using blob drivers. Try disabling them if at all possible.

  34. Re:OP is a condescending poopoohead, and it shows. by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Funny

    You know, it's possible a 4 1/2 year old has parents...

    not a chance. this child was born in a test tube and incubator at microsoft labs. She was raised the past 4.5 years in a crib that had every iteration of windows and microsoft products in it on flatscreens surrounding her. It's the genetic love child of Gates and Ballmer.

    Who knew those two ugly guys would make such a cute baby?

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  35. Re:OP is a condescending asshole, and it shows... by loutr · · Score: 2, Informative

    Well Gnome can detect the type of the device (either through HAL or by browsing its content), and change the popup menu accordingly. Furthermore if you browse the digicam content with Nautilus it will also detect the pictures and offer you the possibility to import them. The nice thing about this system is that if you plug the digicam's memory card in a reader you'll be able to browse/import the photos in exactly the same way.

    Anyway my point was that it is relatively trivial to import/manage photos under Linux ; my friends/relatives who switched to Linux have no problem doing that. There are other areas where Linux is far behind Windows (games for example), I don't understand why MS doesn't communicate more on those.

  36. Re:Easy to share photo's, difficult to share a mov by aliquis · · Score: 2, Informative

    I use to add &fmt=18 and yes, it gets better, but good would be a stretch. I've seen one video on YouTube in HD I believe, don't know if all videos uploaded in good enough resolution gets HD or not, bitrate still isn't very good, especially for the resolution, but sure it's better, googled for YouTube HD and found this:

    &fmt=6 increases the resolution from 320x240 to 448x336, Flash 7 video @ 900Kbps; audio @ 44.1KHz 96Kbps Mono CBR. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfWXRybZS4A&fmt=6

    &fmt=18 increases the resolution to 480x360, H.264 video @ 512Kbps; audio @ 44.1KHz 128Kbps Stereo. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfWXRybZS4A&fmt=18

    &fmt=22 increases the resolution to 1280x720 (720p), H.264 video @ 1024Kbps; audio @ 44.1KHz 232Kbps Stereo. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfWXRybZS4A&fmt=22

  37. Re:Awwwwww by actionbastard · · Score: 2, Funny

    If Apple counters, it will be with a cuter, younger, "widdle girl" who will code an insanely great iPhone application in fifteen minutes, post it on the app store, then proceed to make enough money in an hour from sales of her app to pay for her college tuition and pay off her parent's mortgage at the same time. I'd install Silverlight to see that!

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  38. Re:Bedtime reading by John+Hasler · · Score: 2, Informative

    The GPL does not apply to and need not be accepted by end users.

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  39. Re:Minors and Contracts by Tony6785 · · Score: 2, Informative

    No, not if the original contract was written by a "good" lawyer. The fact is, there's nothing illegal about breaking a contract. The whole system of contracts is built on the premise that if the damages which will be awarded in breach to the other party are smaller than the cost of maintaining the contract you should feel free to breach. Breaching a contract is not breaking the law. So, if by "wiggle out of" you mean "breach", then yes. Typically the courts will attempt to hold you to the contract if at all possible or award damages for breach. It takes pretty big circumstances to actually void a contract.