If you keep cannibalizing the talent on the app store, it will cease to create stuff that's interesting.
Are you referring to the "find a taxi" application as interesting, or its developers as talented, or both... 'cause last I checked using any one of 15 billion different web-sites worked pretty well for that. BTW, a little site called google works VERY well for finding taxis as well as finding other things.
But not owning capital doesn't ipso facto make you a socialist. Buying car insurance is a capitalist, free-market transaction.
True, being broke does not (in and of itself) make you a socialist. I don't think I said it does, my apologies if I did. However, you could be considered a socialist (albeit an unknowing or reluctant one) if you need to participate in these co-operative organizations (like an insurance policy holder or 401k investor or job holder) because you don't profit enough from your capital to cover your costs.
Besides, most people in the West are capitalists, as they own part of all of either a house or a car. A 'socialist' investing in a 401K with a stock aspect may become a part owner of Berkshire-Hathaway, which is a publicly listed firm.
This is where the distinction is important IMHO. Simply owning some small part of a company or a house or a car doesn't make you a capitalist (given the distinction). You must own enough capital where you can profit without exchanging your time and labor for money. So, I may own my house and my car and even have some money in the bank... but if I need to go to work in the morning in order to pay for my mortgage, the car loan and my meals... then I'm not a capitalist (even if I subscribe to the ideal).
By your definition, almost nobody is a capitalist as most firms are publicly listed and hence socially owned.
Correct. By the definition I've chosen to adopt, very few people are truly capitalists. I would say you need at a bare minimum of 1/2 million dollars without having any debt in order to remotely qualify as a capitalist in my world. Relatively speaking, not many people have this kind of money. Most people need to trade their time and labor in order to pay for the things that they require to live. I.E. the interest from their investments alone is not enough to survive. Naturally, I'm not a final authority by any means so feel free to disagree.
In short, I think the reason the distinction has blurred in usage is because it has genuinely blurred in reality.
The above is a good point, and I won't argue either way. I think it may just be a matter of how deep we want the analysis to be. My point was simply that if we choose to re-focus the blurred image we may become more enlightened.
And a socialist is certainly not the same thing as someone with no money.
Again, I don't remember making this claim. If anything, I wanted some people to consider the possibility that (after some critical thought) what works best for them may actually be socialism, not capitalism. By no means do I think it should become a holy war. After all, we are each entitled to our own beliefs. Invoking the critical thought process is what I believe to be truly important.
Just see Polly Toynbee
I'll check it out, thanks for the recommendation;-)
Sorry, I just have to contribute my 2 cents regarding this statement.
In the old days, capitalists were the people who owned the means of production and simply profited from this ownership. The Forbes richest people in the world are the people we're talking about. In fact, these capitalists don't even need to actually support capitalism as a great ideal.
Now-a-days every layman who supports capitalism calls himself a capitalist. We lose an important distinction here, and I really think you might be better off by understanding this. Perhaps it will give you some more insight into each system and help you further refine your values.
In a very real sense, you are probably a socialist who happens to support capitalism. For example, do you pay Geico for car insurance (socialist) or do you own Berkshire-Hathaway (capitalist)? Do you invest in a 401k (socialist) or do you own your own investment firm (capitalist)? Do you fly commercial or in a private Lear jet? Do you go to work in the morning or do workers come to your building? I think you see where I'm going.
Anyway, I think it's an important distinction... more details here:
Instead of begging for a free lunch from the FSF, your organization *should* have contacted their own legal advisors or hired some. Presumably, this is the kind of work Bruce does.
The reason your experience was frustrating is because you guys went about things in a completely inappropriate manner... so, you won't find any sympathy here.
I'd love to see a modern-day version of the 68060.
You mean PPC? Just get yer screwdriver and head for the server room. Open the box that says "IBM zSeries". You'll find it just across the cabinet where the "IBM first prize" golf trophies for the "IBM Sales manager vs. customer cup" are on display.
Those trophies are also on display inside the Playstation 3;-)
But, seriously... there's no viable option other than x86; computer's simply won't work without them. Just take a look at the size of the heatsink attached to my iPhone:-P
Ah, the mythical clueless windows user, if only such a beast existed!
In my experience, these "clueless" users have an unsavory tendency to grow and learn... and given enough time... eventually use Unix;-)
MSFT must prevent this from happening or they'll find that they have captured a lot of user mind-share but there won't be any decent developers to churn out software for the drop-outs. You can't blame them for being pro-active.
...is sending corporate security "goons" to old ladies houses to insure that their Mafia-esque agenda is pushed through legislation and THIS is what makes headlines???? Nokia wants to monitor information going in and out of it's very own system!??!?! BFD!
In 1984 mainstream users were choosing VMS over UNIX. Ten years later
they are choosing Windows over UNIX. What part of that message aren't
you getting?
I thought of this too... but I keep coming to the conclusion that there are more efficient ways to heat the house.
I think of it like this, if I had to heat the house exclusively w/ the heat generated from a number of computers, would it cost me less than using only my natural gas powered heating system? I never actually did the math but my hunch is that it would cost much more to exclusively use computers.
Nonetheless, kudos on and excellent rationalization!
Is there really any workstation software that is available on AIX that isn't available on Linux?
Due to the size of our world, I'm afraid the answer to your question is probably "yes". I'm thinking specifically of their OSL. Which (last I checked) was also abandoned; their recommendation was to use COIN-OR. Not that I think COIN-OR is inferior, but porting thousands of lines of CASE generated code does not sound like fun to me!
In the corporate world, Microsoft is god. Windows 2000/2003 servers run businesses. Nix machines and the like are novelties for un-evolved engineers.
WOW!!! I'm guessing you've never really worked on many corporate back end systems... there are literally hundreds of examples that can be given showing that JUST THE OPPOSITE is true.
I hear ya... I'm very much the same way actually; deliberate, conservative... idk what you want to call it. It just seems to further emphasize the point... things like love, trust, health, happiness, etc are SO much more important that we tend to play our cards even closer in that respect.
He he... Ya, I like to listen to myself talk just as much as the next guy; I can't blame you. Just thought it was funny. Look at the bright side... at least you didn't send $400k to a Nigerian prince;-)
Me? I won't ever marry, not even on a dare. Girlfriends don't get a housekey for many months. Nothing is ever joint. Yes, in a way it is sad!
Some people think that there are things in this world which are more important than money... a couple of them being trust and love. I think if and when you figure this out you will be a lot better off.
Slashdot Mirror
If you keep cannibalizing the talent on the app store, it will cease to create stuff that's interesting.
Are you referring to the "find a taxi" application as interesting, or its developers as talented, or both... 'cause last I checked using any one of 15 billion different web-sites worked pretty well for that. BTW, a little site called google works VERY well for finding taxis as well as finding other things.
Some people program for a living. Controversial I know.
And some people live to program; also controversial.
But not owning capital doesn't ipso facto make you a socialist. Buying car insurance is a capitalist, free-market transaction.
True, being broke does not (in and of itself) make you a socialist. I don't think I said it does, my apologies if I did. However, you could be considered a socialist (albeit an unknowing or reluctant one) if you need to participate in these co-operative organizations (like an insurance policy holder or 401k investor or job holder) because you don't profit enough from your capital to cover your costs.
Besides, most people in the West are capitalists, as they own part of all of either a house or a car. A 'socialist' investing in a 401K with a stock aspect may become a part owner of Berkshire-Hathaway, which is a publicly listed firm.
This is where the distinction is important IMHO. Simply owning some small part of a company or a house or a car doesn't make you a capitalist (given the distinction). You must own enough capital where you can profit without exchanging your time and labor for money. So, I may own my house and my car and even have some money in the bank... but if I need to go to work in the morning in order to pay for my mortgage, the car loan and my meals... then I'm not a capitalist (even if I subscribe to the ideal).
By your definition, almost nobody is a capitalist as most firms are publicly listed and hence socially owned.
Correct. By the definition I've chosen to adopt, very few people are truly capitalists. I would say you need at a bare minimum of 1/2 million dollars without having any debt in order to remotely qualify as a capitalist in my world. Relatively speaking, not many people have this kind of money. Most people need to trade their time and labor in order to pay for the things that they require to live. I.E. the interest from their investments alone is not enough to survive. Naturally, I'm not a final authority by any means so feel free to disagree.
In short, I think the reason the distinction has blurred in usage is because it has genuinely blurred in reality.
The above is a good point, and I won't argue either way. I think it may just be a matter of how deep we want the analysis to be. My point was simply that if we choose to re-focus the blurred image we may become more enlightened.
And a socialist is certainly not the same thing as someone with no money.
Again, I don't remember making this claim. If anything, I wanted some people to consider the possibility that (after some critical thought) what works best for them may actually be socialism, not capitalism. By no means do I think it should become a holy war. After all, we are each entitled to our own beliefs. Invoking the critical thought process is what I believe to be truly important.
Just see Polly Toynbee
I'll check it out, thanks for the recommendation ;-)
Sorry, I just have to contribute my 2 cents regarding this statement.
In the old days, capitalists were the people who owned the means of production and simply profited from this ownership. The Forbes richest people in the world are the people we're talking about. In fact, these capitalists don't even need to actually support capitalism as a great ideal.
Now-a-days every layman who supports capitalism calls himself a capitalist. We lose an important distinction here, and I really think you might be better off by understanding this. Perhaps it will give you some more insight into each system and help you further refine your values.
In a very real sense, you are probably a socialist who happens to support capitalism. For example, do you pay Geico for car insurance (socialist) or do you own Berkshire-Hathaway (capitalist)? Do you invest in a 401k (socialist) or do you own your own investment firm (capitalist)? Do you fly commercial or in a private Lear jet? Do you go to work in the morning or do workers come to your building? I think you see where I'm going.
Anyway, I think it's an important distinction... more details here:
Capital
and here:
Capitalist
...my 4.5 year old can debug a friggin' kernel.
"The most virtuous are those who content themselves with being virtuous without seeking to appear so."
Plato
should help some
The FSF is not your free legal counsel.
Instead of begging for a free lunch from the FSF, your organization *should* have contacted their own legal advisors or hired some. Presumably, this is the kind of work Bruce does.
The reason your experience was frustrating is because you guys went about things in a completely inappropriate manner... so, you won't find any sympathy here.
Those trophies are also on display inside the Playstation 3 ;-)
:-P
But, seriously... there's no viable option other than x86; computer's simply won't work without them. Just take a look at the size of the heatsink attached to my iPhone
Ah, the mythical clueless windows user, if only such a beast existed!
;-)
In my experience, these "clueless" users have an unsavory tendency to grow and learn... and given enough time... eventually use Unix
MSFT must prevent this from happening or they'll find that they have captured a lot of user mind-share but there won't be any decent developers to churn out software for the drop-outs. You can't blame them for being pro-active.
To quote one of my favorite movies:
It's bush league psych-out stuff! Laughable, man!
In 1984 mainstream users were choosing VMS over UNIX. Ten years later they are choosing Windows over UNIX. What part of that message aren't you getting?
I would *love* to see something that backs up this assertion.
Last I checked, Nokia has way more overall market share AS WELL more 'smartphone' market share.
I thought of this too... but I keep coming to the conclusion that there are more efficient ways to heat the house.
;-)
I think of it like this, if I had to heat the house exclusively w/ the heat generated from a number of computers, would it cost me less than using only my natural gas powered heating system? I never actually did the math but my hunch is that it would cost much more to exclusively use computers.
Nonetheless, kudos on and excellent rationalization!
Yes, some might even call 5% a lot...
Transaction Fees
Now, if the payment could somehow be processed via mobile, oh wait...
Mobile Payments
[note, I'm not affiliated with the company directed to by the above links]
I don't know Apple's terms and policies for iPhone very well, but from what I've heard they seem completely draconian.
...support independent game studios. Whether you pirate or buy a giant conglomerate's product doesn't matter, they win either way.
Do the right thing and vote with your wallet, send the money to the independents who actually CARE about their customers and the quality of the games.
Do you mean to say this is broken in 5.1?!?
Curious because it works fine for me w/ ver 5.0.27-standard and I'd be quite shocked if something so trivial didn't work in the new release.
Due to the size of our world, I'm afraid the answer to your question is probably "yes". I'm thinking specifically of their OSL. Which (last I checked) was also abandoned; their recommendation was to use COIN-OR. Not that I think COIN-OR is inferior, but porting thousands of lines of CASE generated code does not sound like fun to me!
WOW!!! I'm guessing you've never really worked on many corporate back end systems... there are literally hundreds of examples that can be given showing that JUST THE OPPOSITE is true.
the corporate world
I hear ya... I'm very much the same way actually; deliberate, conservative... idk what you want to call it. It just seems to further emphasize the point... things like love, trust, health, happiness, etc are SO much more important that we tend to play our cards even closer in that respect.
He he... Ya, I like to listen to myself talk just as much as the next guy; I can't blame you. Just thought it was funny. Look at the bright side... at least you didn't send $400k to a Nigerian prince ;-)
Some people think that there are things in this world which are more important than money... a couple of them being trust and love. I think if and when you figure this out you will be a lot better off.
Forget TFA... the comment just above points out the same thing. Not only do people skip reading the article, they skip reading the comments too! LOL
Which market are you talking about exactly?
MSFT 5yr
GOOG 5yr
AAPL 5yr
Yes, people certainly do still use "this OS" (i.e. Windows)... people who produce costly products with little value.
:P