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Cuba Launches Own Linux Variation

willclem writes "According to Reuters, it seems that Cuba has launched its own variation of Linux in order to fulfill its government's desire to replace Microsoft operating systems. 'Getting greater control over the informatic process is an important issue,' said Communications Minister Ramiro Valdes, who heads a commission pushing Cuba's migration to free software."

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  1. Well, I guess this means they aren't stupid. by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That is to say, that's one of the smarter things I have heard about a government lately.

  2. CigarOS by russlar · · Score: 4, Funny

    Gives new meaning to the term patch rollup.

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    1. Re:CigarOS by uberjack · · Score: 5, Funny

      I vote for 'CommUnix'

  3. Re:Tux cant handle the Cuban heat. by pushing-robot · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Somehow I have a hard time picturing penguins in Cuba.

    I don't.

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  4. If we are voting, I vote for Castrix by tlambert · · Score: 4, Funny

    If we are voting, I vote for Castrix

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    1. Re:If we are voting, I vote for Castrix by sapphire+wyvern · · Score: 5, Funny

      Castrix does seem to go well with Unix...

    2. Re:If we are voting, I vote for Castrix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      That's good!!!

      I was thinking Cubuntu.

  5. Cuban Linux distro name by Aranwe+Haldaloke · · Score: 5, Funny

    Tell me I'm not the only one who expected its name to be Cubuntu.

  6. Re:How did microsoft get around the embargo? by zxjio · · Score: 4, Informative

    It seems likely that their government would just buy from ISVs in another country. Microsoft can't see it, can't stop it, can't be held liable. Remember the recent case of HP selling a significant amount of printers to Iran in just such a way?

  7. Re:Tux cant handle the Cuban heat. by GodKingAmit · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Since when is russia a communist or socialist country?

  8. Fidel Penguin? by jtara · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'd love to see the logo be an image of Fidel dressed-up as a penguin.

    I'm pretty sure the guy has a sense of humor. When I was a kid, I was a "shortwave listener" (before I got my ham license) and sent of to Radio Havana (among others) for a "QSL" card, confirming that I had heard their station.

    Besides the card, I got other periodic mailings, including a Christmxxxx New Year card one year, bearing the cartoon likeness of Fidel Castro, laid-out on the dining-room table as a pig, complete with an apple in his mouth. I kid you not. I'll bet he had a big laugh.

    Wish I still had it - could probably sell it for a bundle on eBay!

    (Other "interesting" material I received included a copy of the Little Red Book from Radio Peking, and a subscription to China Pictorial - a beautifully-printed bled-to-edge full color magazine with gorgeous pictures of fields and tractors...)

  9. Re:How did microsoft get around the embargo? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I am from Finland so I think I dont have your mindset. Could you explain to me, why exactly would we ever want to hope that. Cuba isnt any threat to the safety of the world or anything...

  10. Not if it's Red Hat based by russlar · · Score: 5, Funny

    If it's Red Hat based, I say Sombrero!

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  11. Re:Commercial apps are in for REAL trouble. by zappepcs · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I said something similar regarding the Russian decision to use Linux. It wasn't received too well. I think that this sort of event truly does mean trouble for MS and proprietary software in a rather large way.

    I think that it is more likely that F/OSS developers will beat large proprietary vendors to the punch though. There will be a new market for proprietary Linux software though. When Adobe does port to Linux it doesn't have to be Free or Open Source to run on Linux, but it will be hard to sell software to people that are happy to use the F/OSS alternatives.

    It should be interesting times.

  12. You forgot your hat by iminplaya · · Score: 4, Funny

    The whole thing has been cleverly orchestrated by Microsoft. And when they defeat the red menace, they shall be seen as heroes.Beautiful plan. I wish I thought of it myself.

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  13. Re:How did microsoft get around the embargo? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Still the same AC here... I hope you arent referring to Cuba Missile Crisis, because that indeed was very long ago. Even if you arent and there has been something later than that, it is hardly a valid argument. Doesnt USA target numerous countries with nuclear missiles? And support more countries that have those?

    I can tell that there are a lot of people who are more worried about Israel than Cuba, seeing Cuba isnt even very militaristic country. Why in hell would they fire a missile to a country they cant invade? Just because they are (nearly) communists and thus evil?

    If you wish to not answer because of it would take this too far offtopic, I can understand that and not automatically assume that you somehow lost. Just felt the need to mention that at least over here, I have never heard that Cuba would have somehow threatening imago.

  14. Re:How did microsoft get around the embargo? by jrumney · · Score: 5, Informative

    The embargo stared in February 1962, 8 months before the Cuban missile crisis.

  15. Re:How did microsoft get around the embargo? by QuantumRiff · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Why did this post get labeled troll? Honestly? The US has admitted to sneaking code into valve controllers made by a company that the US knew that the russians were discreetely and secretly buying, that would cause them to go wonky when certain circumstances happened, leading to a huge explosion on one of their main siberian gas pipelines. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/1455559/CIA-plot-led-to-huge-blast-in-Siberian-gas-pipeline.html Why would it be different for cuba?

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  16. Re:Nova, eh? by dido · · Score: 4, Informative

    Apparently that old story just isn't true.

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  17. Re:Tux cant handle the Cuban heat. by zorkerz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I agree that the connection of open source with Socialism in peoples minds and the negative effect this could have on its adoption worries me.

    Beyond this though I am sick and tired of the irrational fear of socialism in the United States. Im not saying lets become the USSR that obviously did not work out so well but we are still stuck at a point were it is impossible to have rational discussion about anything that gets labeled as socialist. Its a giant hypocritical mess. Look at public roads thats a beautiful example of socialism central to our society.

    I think generations of Americans have been conditioned/brainwashed to attack at the first mention of the word socialism before considering what is being proposed. The irony of it all is that public schools the major institution doing this brainwashing is a socialist model.

    I don't believe that socialist systems work everywhere. I am a fervent capitalist and believe in designing free markets with appropriate incentives. All I want to do is be able to have a rational debate about plans that might contain socialist components without people freaking out.

  18. Re:Tux cant handle the Cuban heat. by greenguy · · Score: 5, Funny

    In Soviet Russia, Russia is a Soviet country!

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  19. Re:Tux cant handle the Cuban heat. by Ian+Alexander · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Hey, Americans are dumb (and really, the only place where being "socialist" is something you have to worry about really would be the US). Many probably still associate Russia with communism, even though it was socialist when it was Soviet and hasn't been Soviet for ~20ish years now.

  20. lowering the expectations by JoeZ99 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I've been living in cuba for the last 6 years. I've been using linux since the slackware 100 diskettes era (about 12 years ago).
    • cuba is absolutely windows friendly. everybody in everywhere uses windows. The goverment itself announced a few years ago it was going to migrate to linux. So far nothing yet.
    • cuba works around the embargo thing by means of massive pirate copies (I'm perfectly OK with that).
    • it's a usual thing to announce something with great fireworks that ends up in nothing, so I would have not so many expectations on this .
  21. Re:Tux cant handle the Cuban heat. by 50_1337 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Public schools are a socialist model, as are the police, the justice system, the libraries, the firemen or the free-health-for-all (at least in Europe).

    I don't see what's wrong with this "socialism" me neither!

  22. Re:Tux cant handle the Cuban heat. by boredhacker · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I am a fervent capitalist

    Sorry, I just have to contribute my 2 cents regarding this statement.

    In the old days, capitalists were the people who owned the means of production and simply profited from this ownership. The Forbes richest people in the world are the people we're talking about. In fact, these capitalists don't even need to actually support capitalism as a great ideal.

    Now-a-days every layman who supports capitalism calls himself a capitalist. We lose an important distinction here, and I really think you might be better off by understanding this. Perhaps it will give you some more insight into each system and help you further refine your values.

    In a very real sense, you are probably a socialist who happens to support capitalism. For example, do you pay Geico for car insurance (socialist) or do you own Berkshire-Hathaway (capitalist)? Do you invest in a 401k (socialist) or do you own your own investment firm (capitalist)? Do you fly commercial or in a private Lear jet? Do you go to work in the morning or do workers come to your building? I think you see where I'm going.

    Anyway, I think it's an important distinction... more details here:

    Capital

    and here:

    Capitalist

  23. Re:Tux cant handle the Cuban heat. by jabithew · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But not owning capital doesn't ipso facto make you a socialist. Buying car insurance is a capitalist, free-market transaction.

    Besides, most people in the West are capitalists, as they own part of all of either a house or a car. A 'socialist' investing in a 401K with a stock aspect may become a part owner of Berkshire-Hathaway, which is a publicly listed firm.

    By your definition, almost nobody is a capitalist as most firms are publicly listed and hence socially owned.

    In short, I think the reason the distinction has blurred in usage is because it has genuinely blurred in reality. And a socialist is certainly not the same thing as someone with no money. Just see Polly Toynbee.

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  24. Re:How did microsoft get around the embargo? by Tellarin · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm in no way defending Cuba's government acts here, but I really don't get this "Cuba is evil" mindset that people in the US always state and that always only shows one side.

    One need to remember that besides what Cuba did, the US supported a dictator in Cuba (Batista) before the was overthrown by the "revolution", supported a tentative to invade Cuba (Bay of Pigs), and supported terrorist and sabotage acts in Cuba.

    The US (biggest economy and military in the world) also imposes an economic embargo in Cuba (very small country) for some 40 years. And at the same time the US has a law that allows any Cubans who reach the US to become a US citizen. Do you want any bigger incentive than these two for people to live a country with a struggling economy?

    And then they claim that people just want to run away from the bad bad Castro because he is the devil or something. :-/

    Let's at least present both sides.