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How Much Longer Will Physical Game Distribution Survive?

GamesIndustry is running an interview with Theodore Bergquist, CEO of GamersGate, in which he forecasts the death of physical game distribution in favor of digital methods, perhaps in only a few years. He says, "Look at the music industry, look at 2006 when iTunes went from not being in the top six of sellers — in the same year in December it was top three, and the following year number one. I think digital distribution is absolutely the biggest threat [traditional retailers] can ever have." Rock, Paper, Shotgun spoke with Capcom's Christian Svensson, who insists that developing digital distribution is one of their top priorities, saying Capcom will already "probably do as much digital selling as retail in the current climate." How many of the games you acquire come on physical media these days? At what point will the ease of immediate downloads outweigh a manual and a box to stick on your shelf (if it doesn't already)?

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  1. Eve onlin by trip11 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Check out the sales of Eve online on march 10th. They are putting it out in a box set for the first time (well practically the first time). Before now it's been download only. If the number of people playing shoot up, that's a good indicator. Likewise if the box set falls flat.

  2. I always buy boxed games by lordandmaker · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In general, if I've paid for something, I want a tangible object.

    I've this constant concern that *something* will go wrong in the digital process. I know it probably wont, and generally hasn't, but I'd still much rather be able to say "look - I _do_ own this, I've got the box and everything". That said, I don't have any paper records for, say, my banking. Priorities and all that.

    1. Re:I always buy boxed games by Nursie · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I also like physical objects, generally for music. Whilst I have downloaded a couple of games on Xbox and PS3 and I don't have the same fear of something going wrong, there is a huge downside.

      I can't lend it to a friend.
      I can't sell it on or even give it away when I'm done with it.

      This sucks.
      I don't mind the suckage on low-value items like Flower or Noby Noby Boy, or Xbox Live Arcade bits and pieces, but on full games?

      No thanks.

    2. Re:I always buy boxed games by obarthelemy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      issues with downloads:

      - when the DRM server goes down, you lose your stuff. The question is not whether it will, but when. We need some king of DRM escrow.

      - because of the drm, we're beholden to not only 1 drm system, but 1 file format, 1 software, and sometimes even 1 hardware vendor, or 1 product line form a specific vendor. We need a DRM standard, shared amongst all vendors.

      - we lose the right to resell or even loan our stuff.

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  3. We have the technology... by appleprophet · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You can see this already with PC gaming. Digital distributors like Steam have pretty much demolished the brick and mortar stores. My local GameStop barely has a PC game section anymore and it's not because the PC market is shrinking. In fact, it's growing.

    Brick and mortar stores are dying and they know it -- for PC games anyway. It's like they are not even trying anymore. I am an independent video game developer, and I tried my best to let GameStop et al sell my company's game, but they do not even return calls. We have not even gotten an email back yet.

    Meanwhile, our upcoming title is going to be sold in virtually every single online store -- some of them responded within a day of being contacted. Here's our list so far.

    Brick and mortar stores are still clinging on for consoles releases. Retail stores pretty much are the only place to go when you want to buy the latest AAA titles (except Amazon, which is like digital distribution with very high latency).

  4. As long as they keep the packaging shiny by DrJokepu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I mean, seriously, who doesn't like those shiny boxes with the manual, maps and stuff like that? And having the original packaging even many years later? We're talking about some serious bragging rights here.

  5. Do you really need to ask? by pla · · Score: 4, Insightful

    At what point will the ease of immediate downloads outweigh a manual and a box to stick on your shelf (if it doesn't already)?

    At the point where I can download a DRM-less installer or ISO and do whatever the hell I want with it.

    Anything short of that, and I'll keep buying physical media.

  6. Never! by YuppieScum · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Simply stated, if companies stop selling their games on physical media, then I shall stop buying their games.

    I've been fucked over by DRM-laden downloads on the 360, thanks very much. Every time mine goes back for repair, none of my paid-for-DLC works on the new box I get back, and I have to get into an hour-long argument with tele-bozos to sort it out. I have no interest in extending that process to every game I own.

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  7. Re:Physical is still the best bandwidth by bencoder · · Score: 4, Informative

    The problem is that while network bandwidth does not follow an exponential increase in bitrate over time, disc format capacity does. So this would suggest that the gap between online delivery and physical media is going to get larger, not smaller.

    Now that's not true. I've only been online about 10 years and i can actually notice the exponential increase, something like this:

    1999 56k
    2003 256kbit
    2004 512kbit
    2005 1MBit
    2006 2MBit
    2007 4Mbit
    2008 10MBit

    At least, that's been my experience in the UK. Here's another diagram going from 1982(log scale, so it's exponential)

  8. You've missed the point by YuppieScum · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Digital distribution" and "on-line stores" are not synonymous.

    I buy most of my games and movies from on-line stores, but I still get physical media for my cash. This is also true for AAA titles - my copy of MutantExploder7 will land on my doormat on the day of release.

    It is the prevalence of low-overhead (and sales tax avoiding) on-line retailers that has been killing bricks-and-mortar establishments for the last 10 years.

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  9. It's all a question of media by gravos · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If BluRay becomes cheap enough, then of course games from all platforms will be distributed that way. Who even on 3Mbit broadband wants to download 20GB games? Not me, that's for sure. It's all a question of media and the size of the game vs the size of people's broadband pipes.

    And likewise it will be with the next media format, and the next, and the next. You can't compare MP3s and games because songs have a fixed size. Games do not.

    1. Re:It's all a question of media by ubrgeek · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And what about the growing issue of ISPs capping bandwidth-per-month usage?

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    2. Re:It's all a question of media by twistedsymphony · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I completely agree, another thing to consider is the market he's comparing it to. digitally distributed media took off in the Music world because most people wanted to take their music with them wherever they went. (portables aside) I don't know how much benefit there is to keeping your game collection in your pocket, actually digital distribution works out AGAINST convenience in some regards in that if I download the latest Street Fighter, then I can't take the game with me to my friends house to play it there, at least with an Ipod it's easy enough to bring my player along with my collection, but hauling a PS3, 360 or desktop PC isn't close convenient.

    3. Re:It's all a question of media by Gojira+Shipi-Taro · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Most markets in the states, you do not have a choice. You have ONE cable operator, and usually ONE DSL operator, and that's it. If they both have horrible policies, you're screwed.

      You could always MOVE of course.

      So no, "get a proper ISP" isn't an option for everyone.

      Fortunately I've got one of the "good" cable providers. Of course I don't do large digital downloads or participate in frequent peer-to-peer, so it probably wouldn't matter much to me anyhow.

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    4. Re:It's all a question of media by jitterman · · Score: 5, Insightful

      To play devil's advocate, I've used Steam, etc., for my PC, and I still prefer physical media.

      First obviously, no download waiting - if the DRM isn't as asinine as Spore's was, then when my machine needs to be rebuilt I can quickly put all of my games back on rather than wait forever.

      Second (and I have done this) - I can sell my games LEGALLY to friends when I'm done with them and vice-versa. They get a $50 game for $10-$20, and I get a rebate of sorts. Can't do that with downloaded software (well, I suppose you could copy it to a DVD then find a crack of some type, but hell, your buds can do that, too). Kind of like the e-book argument.

      Finally, there's the subjective (OP mentioned this, to be fair) - I *like* having the physical media and the packaging. Hell, Fallout 3 actually even included a REAL, printed manual! Woohoo!

      To be sure, there are many benefits to download distribution, but it's nice to have options and I would hate to see the total demise of packaged games.

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    5. Re:It's all a question of media by genner · · Score: 4, Funny

      No, it's more of a fascist corporatist model.

      Because we treat corporations legally as people and because they had almost unlimited wealth for the last 30 years, they changed the laws to destroy capitalism wherever they could.

      We are now free to choose from LeftSockPuppet or RightSockPuppet. If either sockpuppet looks dangerous to the corporations then they flood their news stations with damaging stories about the sockpuppet and we obediently vote for the other sockpuppet instead.

      I'm so sick of sock puppets. I'm glad we finally voted in a marionette.

  10. They need to sort out the pricing. by Dr_Barnowl · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I bought Dawn of War II from the supermarket ; because it was a lot cheaper than getting it on Steam - even if it is natively a Steam game.

    Why, in this day and age, are physical boxed copies retailing for less than the digital variant? In this particular case, there is literally no difference between the end results - both methods have the game, installed in my Steam folder, registered to my Steam account. Neither has any resale value. I even had to wait to download an update.

    I would rather have downloaded it all, it would have used less materials, and perhaps given more money to the developer (in theory). But for less money, I got more value - I got a disk with a "preload" on it. So physical distribution isn't going away until the download costs less than a retail boxed copy, or until they stop offering boxed copies altogether, and the latter is probably the route that they will want to take - no competition, no discounting.

  11. Re:Physical is still the best bandwidth by El_Muerte_TDS · · Score: 4, Informative

    Now do a list of game sizes. It will probably go something like this (install size):

    1995 20MB
    1999 400MB
    2004 4000MB
    2008 10000MB

  12. And I want to re-sell! by Rurik · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I buy 100% retail boxed, tangible products. I want to be able to exercise the First-Sale Doctrine to re-sell my games after I complete them so that I can raise more money to buy more games. I also want the market to control the pricing of a product. Historically, after a few weeks on the market, retail-boxed items can be found for half the price of their digital counter-parts. Why? The game sucks. It may be fun at a $30 or $40 price point, but is a regret at a $60 price point. The market realizes this, and boxed games can be found for $40 whereas the digital copies are still at $59.99 (ooh, but free shipping and no tax!)

    Digital copies are just a way to destroy the used-game market, undercut pawn shops (e.g. GameStop), lock out libraries, and permanently tie a person to a product so that they can never get rid of it.