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IBM Wants Patent For Lotus Notes-Free Meetings

theodp writes "Over at IBM, the Lotus Notes team has 'invented' preventing the use of their own product during meetings. Self-described patent reformer Big Blue has asked the USPTO for a patent covering Suppressing De-Focusing Activities During Selective Scheduled Meetings by forcing meeting attendees to 'submit to the computing system suspension requirements.' What's next — a patent for Verizon for blocking cellphone usage during movies?"

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  1. English, Motherfscker by serps · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Do you speak it?

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  2. Grrrrr by Spazholio · · Score: 4, Funny

    "What's next - a patent for Verizon for blocking cellphone usage during movies?"

    DON'T. GIVE THEM. IDEAS.

    1. Re:Grrrrr by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 3, Funny

      Don't worry, Verizon would charge at least $5.99 a month for the "Vblock Premium Network Experience".

      You might have to talk to a supervisor two or three times a billing cycle to keep it off your account; but they wouldn't actually provide a service, even a worse than useless one, without being overpaid for it.

    2. Re:Grrrrr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      DON'T. GIVE THEM. IDEAS.

      It's not them you need to worry about...

      In other news, Microsoft has patented the process of buying products from companies that aren't Microsoft. So now, if you buy a Microsoft product you will pay them some money, and if you buy someone else's product you will still have to pay them some money because of their patent. Industry analysts say they haven't noticed any difference from the status quo.

    3. Re:Grrrrr by stupid_is · · Score: 3, Informative
      aGPS = Assisted GPS

      Basically uses cell site triangulation to assist where GPS signal is poor

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  3. Mean while by EEPROMS · · Score: 4, Funny

    3M Patents sticky notes for use when lotus notes has been restricted... :-P

  4. IANAL, etc. by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Interesting

    But this seems pretty tepid. Software designed to enforce situation-specific social norms is not at all new(SMART's somewhat creepily named "Synchroneyes" is one that has been commercially available for a long while now, MS's "digital manners" application came out a while back, and I've run into a number of browser plugins and other utility programs designed to stop timewasting).

    The only novelty, and it is a slender one, is using a calendar event as a stimulus, rather than time or location or some other variable.

  5. It's a brilliant tactical move, really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If IBM patents meeting without Lotus Notes, and doesn't license it, then that means everyone will have to have meetings WITH Lotus Notes! Most companies don't have it, so now they'll need to license it.

  6. Or you could tell people not to bring their laptop by dave1791 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The app seems like a verbose way of saying that the calendar system shuts down access to other apps during the meeting; which is a technical solution to a social problem (people banging away on laptop keyboards during meetings)

  7. Uninformed summary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    One part of IBM's strategy for patent reform has been to build as large a patent library as possible, but enforce only (what they see as) legitimate innovation while using the rest only to club patent trolls. While I have no objection to anti-software patent advocates, or full-blown anti-imaginary property advocates, insinuating that IBM is guilt of misrepresentation or hypocrisy with this filing is absurd.

  8. What is IBM trying to do? by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 3, Interesting

    IBM has been attempting to get patents for some of the craziest things lately, and I wonder how many of these were actually accepted. Are they trying an easy way to beef up their patent portfolio, for defensive tactics, to keep up the yearly count or simply to prove how broken the system is? In the meantime, they will ensure they keep getting noticed by Slashdot ;)

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    1. Re:What is IBM trying to do? by Ashriel · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm guessing that they're trying to reform patent law by coming up with such ridiculous patents that the patent office can no longer take itself seriously, if indeed it still does.

      Either that, or they have some seriously messed-up people in charge over there - c'mon, patenting non-use of software? Am I the only person who laughed at this article? Never even mind the patent summary itself, which keeps referring to the act of not using Lotus Notes as an "invention".

      I think I'm going to go out and patent not using my personal computer between the hours of 6 pm and 10 pm EST. That way everyone else has to pay me for not using my PC during that timeframe.

  9. Re:Sounds new to me by subreality · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't know of any existing products with this functionality. So they wrote it up first, and you're bitching because you lack the creativity or ambition to do so yourself.

    For prior art, check out any MMORPG with a parental control feature, or firewalls with time lock options. Maybe there's a sliver of innovation in that it custom schedules it based on when your meetings are, but that's pretty thin.

    Oh, you don't like software patents? So competitive corporations should just throw in the towel and abandon patents that are allowed in our current system?

    No, my plan is to bitch about them to draw attention to how broken the system is until we have the support to legislate them away. Until then I support companies' rights to keep trying for these things, and the people's rights to mock them for it.

  10. They have a chronic and terminal disease by Ralph+Spoilsport · · Score: 3, Funny

    called "cranio-rectal inversion".

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  11. Or Be More Interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Want people's attention during your meeting? Try a few basic things:

    Start on time.
    Get to the point when speaking.
    Keep the discussion on topic.
    If the meeting is more than an hour, have a 5 minute break for email and bathroom.
    Never read your slides to the audience.

    Then again, I dislike speaking in front of people, even if I do it well, so I'm quick myself.

  12. Lotus Notes is a Worldwide CONSPIRACY by djdavetrouble · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I have been riding a downhill slope of enterprise email systems for the last half decade.
    First I started working at a Novell shop, Groupwise was of course the flavor. Well, I thought
    it was lacking in usability and features, until we ditched it for a worldwide Lotus Notes
    enterprise solution. What groupwise lacks in features and usability, Notes takes and twists
    into infinitely complex knots, lashings, and tangles. Preferences? We got em all over the
    fucking place. Location preferences, user preferences, security prefernces, address book
    preferences, all dispersed throughout different menus and buttons. There is no way
    a non admin could properly configure this evil bitch. Want to archive some email and get
    it out of your active database (oh yes, this is not a mail file, this is a full fledged encrypted
    domino database, bitches) ? Ok, follow this simple 10 step process! To change the font size, you
    have to leave the application and edit a preference file by hand on Macs. We had to send out
    a small magazine to explain how to use an html signature. The default browser when you
    install? Notes browser. Ugh.

    I have come up with a fairly plausible theory that Lotus Notes is a conspiracy
    of complexity to keep huge numbers of IBM engineers and testers, as well as external
    Notes administrators in business. Witness the ease of use of modern email.
    We have well over 20 Notes admins for our global enterprise. REALLY?

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    1. Re:Lotus Notes is a Worldwide CONSPIRACY by MichaelSmith · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I have come up with a fairly plausible theory that Lotus Notes is a conspiracy of complexity to keep huge numbers of IBM engineers and testers, as well as external Notes administrators in business.

      IBM specialise in this. Have a look at the entire Rational product line, particularly ClearCase.

  13. Lotus Notes: by phillymjs · · Score: 3, Funny

    The only winning move is not to play.

    ~Philly

  14. Re:Sounds new to me by retchdog · · Score: 4, Funny

    The good posts always come when I don't have mod points. Slashdot would be a much better place, if the phrase "My mocking something does not necessarily mean that I support the government suppressing it," were half as popular as that damned Franklin quote about security and liberty.

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  15. Re:Or you could tell people not to bring their lap by high_rolla · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Indeed. We seem to be evolving a culture where we try to solve every problem with technology. Sometimes technology is not the answer. Sometimes you have to realise that technology is not curing the problem, it is just solving a symptom. And like most diseases, it will simply evolve around your attempt.

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  16. job security by vandelais · · Score: 4, Funny

    Do nothing. Schedule meetings all day. Prevents termination by Lotus Notes. Works for middle management!

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  17. Re:Or you could tell people not to bring their lap by hazem · · Score: 4, Insightful

    We seem to be evolving a culture where we try to solve every problem with technology. Sometimes technology is not the answer.

    No. Clearly the problem is that people are invited to meetings when they feel there is more value in doing something else than actually paying attention at the meeting.

    Probably the best solution is to have fewer meetings and make them shorter and more focused.

    If you then still need the meeting and making it shorter and focused does not keep the attention of the people involved, maybe they need a different job where they won't be distracted by such meetings.

    I work for a large corporation and I believe we have far too many meetings that are not really needed. When I'm bored in one of these meetings, I like to look around the table and try to estimate the cost in salary and benefits of the particular meeting. With a VP, a handful of directors and several managers, a one-hour meeting easily costs the company a few thousand dollars.

    This kind of technology won't solve the problem of people doing other things in meetings and it will most likely just piss them off.

  18. Patent stupidity? It's been done already! by AliasMarlowe · · Score: 3, Informative

    ... such ridiculous patents that the patent office can no longer take itself seriously, if indeed it still does.

    They're too late. Much too late:
    766,171 "Apparatus for signalling from a grave" (before horror movies even existed)
    1,749,090 "Apparatus for obtaining criminal confessions" (oooh, scary ghosts)
    2,929,459 "Rocket-propelled pogo stick" (yay for Wile E Coyote!)
    3,216,423 "Facilitating birth by centrifugal force" (I kid you not)
    4,016,875 "Penis locking and lacerating vaginal insert" (the mind boggles)
    4,429,685 "Surgical procedure for unicorns" (WTF?)
    5,443,036 "Method for exercising a cat" (fun with a laser pointer)
    5,456,625 "Jesus doll lights when crucified" (surreal BDSM toy, intended for kids!)
    6,025,810 "Faster than light communication" (physics from another reality)
    6,368,227 "Method of swinging on a swing" (eventually cancelled, alas)
    This is just a sampling from my collection of US PTO brainfarts. Other wierd wonders have titles such as "Body condom", "Santa Claus detector", "Making a drink hop along a counter", "Thermochromic urinal mat", "Motorized ice-cream cone", "Electrified table cloth", and so forth. I've also collected turds from the French, German, Japanese, and UK patent offices, but they are less profligate than the US patent orifice.

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  19. Re:Or you could tell people not to bring their lap by TheRaven64 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Several studies have shown that the productivity of a meeting begins to drop off rapidly when you add more than three people. The only real reason for bigger meetings is to share blame. Fewer meetings is not the correct solution, smaller and shorter (but potentially more) meetings is. If a lot of people need to know what was discussed at the meeting then email out detailed minutes, don't require them to all be there in person.

    If someone is not paying attention in a meeting, it means that they don't feel that the meeting demands 100% of their attention, and if that is the case then they are probably right. Rather than force them to sit in a meeting which only demands 50% of their attention on average, split it into two meetings, one where they do have to pay attention 100% of the time, and one where they don't have to attend.

    If you read any management theory textbook written in the last 30 years, you'll see exactly this advice.

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  20. How passive-aggressive is THAT? by ActusReus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't really understand the business problem that this "invention" is intended to solve. If a manager doesn't want people using their laptops during his meeting... he should, well, tell the guy sitting ten feet directly in front of him to kindly close his laptop.

    This is a technical version of your old college roommate leaving you angry notes to clean up or change your habits... because the person was too weak and passive to simply have an adult conversation to your face. A manager who has to "communicate" with subordinates in such a manner should not be a manager in the first place.

  21. Re:Or you could tell people not to bring their lap by jefu · · Score: 3, Informative

    Crossword puzzles. Just put one on the top page of a clipboard holding a pad of paper and lean back a bit and it will look like you're listening and taking notes, but you're actually trying to figure out what 5 across is.