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YouTube To Block Music Videos In the UK
ChunKing writes "YouTube is to block all premium music videos to UK users after failing to reach a new licensing agreement with the Performing Rights Society. For many of us in the UK this is great news. The two main music licensing agencies in the UK — Phonographic Performance Limited and PRS — have a stranglehold on music use in this country and are stifling creativity."
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If he's the Walrus then can I be a penguin please?
What am I missing? Is the idea that people are going to complain about it until something changes?
At least i won't be able to be rick rolled now
who knows what else, anyone got a half decent US proxy?
Record industry (or their representative in some manner) gets stroppy, demands multiples of the usual licensing fee.
Google tells them to get stuff (made $7bn last year by NOT caving in to people like you)
Record industry up in arms, tries to gather sympathy
Everybody else in the UK goes on Youtube to look for the latest Rhianna, finds it's still online, it's just certain "official" and HD versions that you're missing, and carries on as normal (or, at worst, moves to a better video place if they REALLY want high-quality music videos).
Google carries on making $7bn a year
Record industry misses out on a share of Google's IMMENSE revenues.
Artists revolt and put their work on Youtube themselves.
Seriously, is it just me or is the record industry TRYING to commit commercial suicide?
Well done PRS, you managed shut out a big advertising opportunity to the artists to supposedly represent. I'm sure the record companies will be round later with a big bunch of flowers to say thanks!
Well done for now forcing people onto sharing sites to pick up ripped DVDs!
Well done for forcing people to go to dodgy malware ridden proxy sites to get around Google's stupid IP range blocking!
Well done for screwing the lesser known and poorer artists who really do get benefit from appearing on YouTube vids, getting some recognition and maybe a handful of those really important sales to keep going.
Big round of applause!
Windows guys please stop pissing on everyone and the Linux guys stop pissing in the wind, hoping to hit Windows guys!
Don't worry. You privacy is totally safe, Mr. Richardson. Just finish your bagel and stop worrying so much.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
I think we need a new version of Godwin's law: With any Slashdot discussion concerning Britain, it's only a matter of time before somebody mentions Orwell. Look, have you actually read 1984, or any of Orwell's works? He was righteously angry about many things, but copyright law was not one of them.
Tell them they can't watch there favourite music videos due to "money issues", they'll cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.
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Services such as Pandora.com, MySpace UK and Imeem have also had issues securing licence deals in the UK in the past 12 months.
The Pandora fiasco is particularly annoying for UK music fans. I was poised to become a subscriber and pay a very reasonable fee to listen to music tailored for my tastes. Instead Pandora were forced to pull the plug in the UK, so everybody loses. Pandora lose subscription funds and advertising, the artists lose income from potential UK subscribers and Pandora adverts, and the listeners lose out on the chance to hear great music.
Actually, the PRS don't seem to be losing out. How strange.
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"...how long until the people of Britain rise up to the tune of Yakity Sax?"
Fixed that for ya.
Videos on MTV/VH1? That's so 20 years ago.
For a moment I read:
The Pornographic Performance Limited has a stranglehold on music use in England?
I almost spit my coffee.
Nonetheless I still think he'd be miffed that they're taking his works as instruction manuals rather than warnings.
A bullet may have your name on it but splash damage is addressed "To whom it may concern."
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The PRS is guilty of long-standing idiocy. In one celebrated incident a few months back, they attempted to fine a garage owner £2,000 unless his customers turned off their car radios before driving onto his premises.
This thing is absolutely fine with me. I've never watched music videos on Youtube, but I don't for a moment imagine that the kids who did will be queuing up to stuff fistfuls of fivers in the PRS's pockets in some other way. Instead they'll turn to piracy or give up on music and play with Facebook.
In due course, big media will realise that their so-called guardians are actually their enemies and they'll fire them. But, by then, there might not be a music industry that's worthy of the name. It'll be a well-deserved outcome.
I know it's not 'the done thing', but I RTFA. Lord knows, the BBC aren't famed for their excellent technology journalism, but even they managed to show how incredibly stupid and "woe is me" the PRS are.
In the article, the PRS say that they've been pleading with Google to re-instate the videos in the UK. Google of course basically say the PRS made it too expensive for them. The PRS carry on acting like they're the ones who've been kicked in the teeth, and say that Google doesn't want to pay more, "despite the massive increase in YouTube viewing". Of course, as we know, video-views only cost Google money - and only ad-clicks actually make them anything.
So just because a video gets viewed lots of times means nothing - it's how many ad-clicks you get that counts.
However, where a music video is concerned, those views may, in a small number of cases, lead to the viewer deciding to buy that music or video. Of course, Google make nothing out of that sale, but the PRS does.
So the PRS is saying they want Google to pay them for advertising their product, regardless of how much money Google makes or loses from doing so.
So in this story, Google is the closest thing to a representative of the music buying public that we have. The PRS really serves itself, and to a lesser extent the music producers. As a consumer, I'm quite happy with Google's choice - if people don't want to sell me music, then I won't buy it. If someone else on the Internet wants to show me those videos instead, then maybe I'll go there, maybe I won't.
However, if I was a producer, I'd probably be rather upset by the PRS's actions (although given the spin the PRS is putting on this, the producers are probably blaming Google).
What's going on is:
And voila, we have finally solved the underpant gnomes' quandry and sold our individual nation states down the toilet for a backhander. Well done the politicians.
*Disclaimer: not ALWAYS US moneyed interests - quite often also EU moneyed interests too, but much of this seems to originate in the US, such as the RIAA/MPAA getting local arms of the same gang (MPC, MPA, PRS) involved. Once we have been successfully subjugated, expect to see versions coming your way too, once they work out how to break through the legal wall of the constitution.
I don't know if you have watched recently but MTV no longer shows music videos, it is full of My Super Sweet 16 and The Osbournes/Run's House or whatever celebrity they can dig up from decades past.
...oh, and yo momma's so fat, her Schwarzchild radius is visible to the naked eye.
Amusingly enough, the propensity to unthinkingly invoke Orwell is akin to his concept of duckspeak. Reading multiple +5 Insightful "1984 wasn't an instruction manual maaaan" posts in a single Brit-related topic makes me wonder about the duckmods though. Perhaps it's hard to peck out the -1 Overrated with a bill?
YouTube: OK, we won't have the videos then
PRS: Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Yup. Then again its all about posturing. Google is making the point, a bit like Apple did with iTunes, that they don't have to provide their content, getting the other party to realise how little negotiating clout they really have.
Jumpstart the tartan drive.
4. Google take down music videos from YouTube
5. PRS start whining that having the videos removed from YouTube is a bad thing for the artists.
It sounds to me like PRS want (a) Google to advertise their product for them, and (b) Google to pay them for the privilege.
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They thought 1984 was an instruction manual.
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