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Spider Bite Allows Man To Walk Again

Manastorm writes "A man who was wheelchair bound due to a motorcycle accident twenty years ago gained the ability to walk again after being bitten by a recluse spider. 'I can't wait to start dancing,' he said as he looks forward to a full recovery after experiencing what some call a 'true miracle.'" I think we all know how this story is going to end. I hope The Sinister Six have been practicing.

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  1. No radioactivity involved? by R2.0 · · Score: 4, Funny

    No genetic engineering?

    What a let down...

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    1. Re:No radioactivity involved? by phantomfive · · Score: 5, Funny

      You never know. They didn't catch the spider, and it happened in Manteca, California, which is far outside the normal range of the brown recluse spider. However, it is in unusually close proximity to Sutter Buttes, an extinct volcano which would be an ideal place to set up a secret lab for.........experiments. Not that I'm suggesting anything.

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    2. Re:No radioactivity involved? by kbob88 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Repeat after me: there is no secret lab under Sutter Buttes. Certainly not one exactly 322' under Brockman Canyon off Pass Road with henchmen wearing shiny silver suits where several tanks of Sphyrna have recently been delivered. Umm, I mean, these are not the buttes you are looking for...

    3. Re:No radioactivity involved? by Walt+Dismal · · Score: 5, Funny

      I was bitten by a C# bug and now I can spin .NETs. However, my arch-nemesis is Doctor Oct-Torvalds, who has eight tentacle arms powered by a small open-source nuclear reactor.

    4. Re:No radioactivity involved? by Creepy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Location doesn't mean much - a friend of mine's mom got bitten by a likely brown recluse spider in central Minnesota (about 400 miles north of their habitat) and they never caught that spider, either, but the venom was necrotic which is a fairly good identifier. It is suspected that the spider hitchhiked a ride with fruit.

      Anyhow, it is very unlikely that this was related due to the nature of that venom - sounds like he went to the hospital and they likely found nerve regrowth or something like that. Nerves do regrow (when I was a kid I heard they didn't, but that was proven wrong), but nerve regrowth is rare in the spine because spinal fluids prohibit it.

    5. Re:No radioactivity involved? by tacarat · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No, no, no! A proper evil overlord hideout requires liquid hot magma. A dormant volcano simply won't do.

      It only appears dormant as the evil genius has been tapping it to geothermically power various projects. Should somebody in spandex or an impeccable tux come in unexpectedly...

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    6. Re:No radioactivity involved? by hullabalucination · · Score: 3, Funny

      You know, all you had to do was check the Yellow Pages for the Sutter Buttes/Tarantula Junction exchange, and there right under the "World Domination, Evil Genetic Engineering Consultants" heading was this listing:

      "Tarantek: Your one-stop source for mutants, clones, evil world domination schemes, improbability manipulation and 'unapproved' research. Arachnids our specialty. We're also California's largest wholesaler of Chia Pets. We take MasterCard, Discover Card and VISA."

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    7. Re:No radioactivity involved? by Lorens · · Score: 4, Funny

      but nerve regrowth is rare in the spine because spinal fluids prohibit it.

      Guess our intelligent designer needs to go back to the drawing board if (s)he built in a bug like that ;)

      There, corrected that for you. Spiders kill bugs.

    8. Re:No radioactivity involved? by Capsaicin · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Guess our intelligent designer needs to go back to the drawing board if (s)he built in a design flaw like that ;)

      What flaw? You make the mistake of thinking our designer is favourably disposed towards us. Remember this is the designer who brought us Ebola inter alia and chose to make humans specifically susceptible to its effects. I think the evidence suggests that, if She isn't outright indifferent to human suffering, She actually enjoys witnessing it.

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    9. Re:No radioactivity involved? by Foodie · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yep. It's on the next intersection instead.

  2. First person to make... by Em+Emalb · · Score: 5, Funny

    a spiderman analogy gets beaten about the head, neck, chest, and shoulders with a rocket-propelled spaghetti launcher.

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    1. Re:First person to make... by neoform · · Score: 4, Funny

      Forget dancing! He can't wait to climb walls, sling webs and catch Dr. Oct!

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  3. What a misleading headline by jandrese · · Score: 5, Informative

    For those of you who are thinking that deadly spider poison is some sort of elixir of mobility I have some bad news. Basically what happened is that he got sent to the hospital and the doctors noticed that his legs were in better shape than he thought, and with some physical therapy he was able to get them working again.

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    1. Re:What a misleading headline by Red+Flayer · · Score: 5, Funny

      Fucking spoilsport.Why can't you let us enjoy our adolescent fantasies of possible superheroism for a little longer?

      I bet you spend the month of December telling little kids at the mall that Santa's a hoax. Miserable bastard.

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    2. Re:What a misleading headline by TheRealMindChild · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You are completely oversimplifying the article to the point where your statement is misleading. This man hasn't been able to walk in 20 YEARS. This isn't a case of some guy not putting forth the effort. The nurse noticed movement in his leg that hasn't been seen in this man, during the time he was in for treatment of the spider bite. They administered THE SAME TESTS this man has taken before with no results and he was able to FEEL something... which he COULDN'T do before.

      My guess is, spider venom is a nerve toxin... it just so happened to manipulate the biology of these nerves in the same way a swift kick to the TV used to fix bad reception.

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    3. Re:What a misleading headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      This just in: Spider bite cures laziness!

    4. Re:What a misleading headline by interkin3tic · · Score: 5, Funny

      You think you're so smart, but I haven't RTFA. Therefore I don't know if you're lying or not, therefore in my world, this man MAY be spiderman.

      I live in a world where spiderman is possibly real, along with santa and the easter bunny. All you have is stupid reality.

    5. Re:What a misleading headline by spacefiddle · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Marvelous. One wonders if his damage was gradually regenerating all this time and is now detectable; or if, perhaps, he could have been rehabilitated to walk 20 years ago, had he been someone with more money than a tattoo artist / physical laborer.

    6. Re:What a misleading headline by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Brown Recluse venom isn't neurotoxic, it's necrotic. If his legs rotted and fell off, I'd think it was possibly due to a bite from a brown recluse. Starting to work again? Doesn't sound likely.

      I would think it is equally plausible that he fell and it knocked something back into alignment, or he's been showing a long term improvement that wasn't quite to the detection threshold before.

      Attributing the improvement to the spider bite is very thin.

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    7. Re:What a misleading headline by vux984 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You are completely oversimplifying the article to the point where your statement is misleading.

      And you are making almost absurd leaps of logic.

      They administered THE SAME TESTS this man has taken before with no results and he was able to FEEL something... which he COULDN'T do before.

      Yes.

      My guess is, spider venom is a nerve toxin... it just so happened to manipulate the biology of these nerves in the same way a swift kick to the TV used to fix bad reception.

      Er. No. As you said, he hadn't been able to walk for 20 years. And he'd been in rehab previously with no success. While the article doesn't say, odds are it was a number of years since he'd last been in rehab.

      In reality land, nerve damage heals very slowly.

      I had a wisdom tooth extracted a couple years ago, and the procedure paralyzed a small strip on lip and chin. My mouth healed up nicely within a few weeks. The paralysis took almost a year. The doctor had warned paralysis was a possibility, that if it occurred it would take a long time to heal, and that there was a good chance it wouldn't heal at all. After six months it went from dead to 'tingling' when touched (sort of like the shooting sparks you get when your foot falls asleep), a few months later and it was healed.

      All the spider bite likely did is cause him to be in the hospital, where he was re-tested. If he'd gone in without the spider bite, he would almost certainly have had the same result. In the interval between the last test and the current one, the nerves had healed to the point they would carry signals again.

      After decades of no success, you don't go in to try every six months 'just in case'.

      The odds the spider bite had anything whatsoever to do with it is minimal.

      My guess is, spider venom is a nerve toxin.

      Except that the Recluse spider venom isn't particularly neuro-toxic at all. Its primary toxin simply aggregates platelets and white blood cells to clog capillaries, which causes necrotic flesh wounds. Rarely is the venom carried by the blood stream further. The main risk is that the necrotic flesh becomes a breeding ground for 2ndary infections. Its really more like gangrene than anything else.

    8. Re:What a misleading headline by sjames · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually, recluse venom is cytotoxic rather than neurotoxic. In the majority of cases, it causes nothing more than aches and a bit of feaver. In the minority of cases, it will cause a nasty necrotic ulcer local to the bite. Even rarer, the effects are diffuse and systemic causing various organ damage.

      It's hard to see where the bite would help, but if it did (that is, not a coincidence), I'd have to guess (and it's a wild guess) that it broke up scar tissue that was blocking healing in the nerves.

    9. Re:What a misleading headline by Rary · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And we, of course, know everything about biochemistry...

      No, but we do know quite a bit.

      ...and can prove that the chemical pathways involved in his cure are in no way related to the brown recluse spider toxin.

      No, but we can apply a little logic and a liberal dose of Occam's Razor and come to a reasonable conclusion. "Magical spider bite cures paralysis" is not that reasonable conclusion.

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    10. Re:What a misleading headline by Moebius+Loop · · Score: 4, Funny

      Of course. From the time the article is published until the point in time that you read the article, this man is juxtaposed between the state of BEING Spiderman, and the state of NOT BEING Spiderman.

      This is an excellent a thought experiment that illustrates the problems with the Copenhagen interpretation of Quantum Commenting.

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    11. Re:What a misleading headline by Pollardito · · Score: 2, Funny

      Except that the Recluse spider venom isn't particularly neuro-toxic at all. Its primary toxin simply aggregates platelets and white blood cells to clog capillaries, which causes necrotic flesh wounds.

      well maybe it worked like that BEFORE the spider got zapped with high energy gamma rays, but afterwards things were probably a bit different

    12. Re:What a misleading headline by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 3, Funny

      this man is juxtaposed between the state of BEING Spiderman, and the state of NOT BEING Spiderman.

      Schrodinger's Bug?

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    13. Re:What a misleading headline by CrashPoint · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And we, of course, know everything about biochemistry and can prove that the chemical pathways involved in his cure are in no way related to the brown recluse spider toxin.

      The phrase "burden of proof" is something with which you might want to familiarize yourself.

    14. Re:What a misleading headline by robaal · · Score: 2, Funny

      the cookies are always gone...

      The spiders eat them.

    15. Re:What a misleading headline by SerpentMage · · Score: 2, Informative

      I am going to disagree with you.

      If you look at the effects of venom it is actually quite amazing.

      Bee Venom: Used for many joint, and allergies.
      Snake Venom: Cancer

      Venom has very interesting side effects, but the devil is in the details and the dosage. Too much and you die, but just enough and your body has a reaction.

      It is an extremely fine line. In the case of this guy who could walk again it would not surprise me that the venom kicked off a reaction that caused the nerves to regenerate.

      The human body is an amazing creation since it has the ability to regenerate itself. The reason we age is because our body tells us to stop regenerating. For example look at amphibians, they just keep growing, growing, and growing...

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  4. A different sort of miracle. by Guppy · · Score: 5, Informative

    The article is mis-leading, it sounds as if some biochemical trick of the spider venom mysteriously un-paralyzed him. The actual situation sounds rather more ordinary.

    From what I can tell, the spider bite just got him into the hospital, and in contact with the right kind of doctor and rehab that got him walking again. That's a little miracle in itself there, but it's the kind of miracle of circumstance and determination -- not the sort that goes into the science section.

  5. Myth busters episode by syousef · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm waiting for the Mythbuster's episode. First we hobble Adam, Jamie and Grant (who can be the control). Then we inject them all with deadly spider venom. If they survive, we see if the spider venom helps them to walk again. Grant gets no venom. Whether they survive or not, it's entertaining and about as scientific as the rest of their testing.

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    1. Re:Myth busters episode by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm waiting for the Mythbuster's episode.

      It was an exploding spider?

    2. Re:Myth busters episode by PIBM · · Score: 4, Funny

      They can blow up the corpses after they die of the poison ..

  6. And it did not take him long to get arrested eithe by arkham6 · · Score: 4, Informative

    http://cbs13.com/watercooler/Paraplegic.Man.Suffers.2.960606.html

    Nice.

  7. The moral of the story by interkin3tic · · Score: 4, Funny

    David Blancarte, 47, is on his feet for the first time since suffering major injuries in a motorcycle accident some 20 years ago...

    He said he was riding on Third Street when a woman motorist made a left turn in front of him. He crashed into her vehicle and was thrown over her car and onto the pavement...

    The turn-around in his condition was ironically caused by the bite of a Recluse spider that put him in a Manteca hospital for five days. Then he was transferred to the Kindred (rehabilitation) Hospital in Modesto where he stayed for five months.

    Blancarte said when he was evaluated at the Modesto hospital his lifeless legs were tested â" actually electrically zapped by a doctor â" to measure nerve function. Not having been able to use his lower limbs for two decades, he was in awe to hear that his nerves were actually alive and could move them again.

    The lesson here is clear: women should not drive.

    1. Re:The moral of the story by Microlith · · Score: 2, Funny

      The lesson here is clear: women should not drive.

      And now for the followup...

      http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/03/16/national/main4870337.shtml?source=mostpop_story

    2. Re:The moral of the story by Shakrai · · Score: 2, Funny

      I view that combination at about the same threat level as the redneck with the high powered rifle and the 12 pack of horse piss.

      Fixed that for you.

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  8. Missing the point by jd · · Score: 5, Funny

    What's wrong with Santa? We know St. Nick was real (so we know there are charitable people) and we know wormholes are real (so we know how to travel around the globe in an evening).

    The Easter Bunny is a modern corruption of the Eostre hare, which seems to have involved throwing eggs at Bugs in the morning, or something like that.

    Spider threads are one of the strongest organic materials known. If we assume the thread could be scaled to the thickness of a typical hemp rope and that the strength scaled with it, it might just about be strong enough to pull building over with, never mind scaling them.

    It's not about these superheros not being possible - clearly the science says otherwise. It's about them not having happened yet. Which, since the tales all come from the past, means time travel will have to be invented along with them.

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    1. Re:Missing the point by jd · · Score: 2, Insightful

      All atoms move randomly. Under normal circumstances, they move in all different directions. Statistically, if you stand on top of a building for long enough, they will all move the same way, out into the open skies. (And then back to random motion as you plummet towards the ground. Who said QM doesn't have a sense of humour?)

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    2. Re:Missing the point by weber · · Score: 2, Informative

      What's wrong with Santa? We know St. Nick was real (so we know there are charitable people) and we know wormholes are real (so we know how to travel around the globe in an evening).

      Actually I have my own theory concerning Santa: he can manipulate Planck's constant. Consequently he can place himself in a quantum state where he's in every good kids home at once. This allows him to deliver presents to all the good children simultaneously - as long as he's not observed. If someone does spot Santa, his quantum state collapses to the eigenstate that is him in that particular kid's home. Thus, he must be very careful not to be spotted, otherwise it would take a long time to deliver all the presents.

      I realize that this theory still have some rough edges, but I'm confident it can be refined and verified before Christmas.

  9. Re:And it did not take him long to get arrested ei by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Hyperlinked for the lazy like me: Man Who Walked Following Spider Bite Arrested

  10. When asked is he strong? by Timberwolf0122 · · Score: 3, Funny

    His doctor became agitated and in formed the press

    "Listen bud! He's got radioactive blood!"

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  11. Still an execellant medical solution . . . by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 2, Funny

    Brown Recluse venom isn't neurotoxic, it's necrotic.

    . . . for my family's great aunt's mobility problem: She can't move an inch without telling everyone in earshot, who doesn't want to hear, a complete medical history of her bowels and various other organs.

    If I can convince her that a bunch of spider bites are the solution to her real and imagined medical problems, that should have that problem sorted.

    Maybe AIG should give these spiders out, instead of bonuses?

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    1. Re:Still an execellant medical solution . . . by Alamais · · Score: 2, Insightful

      > Maybe AIG should give these spiders out, instead of bonuses?

      +1 I'll post your bail.

  12. Re:Yes. Intentionally. by Faluzeer · · Score: 2, Funny

    Woosh. Really? Spiderman ISN'T real? Why haven't I read about this on slashdot before?

    Do you filter out articles posted by kdawson?

  13. Re:SLASHDOT?! by david_thornley · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yeah, but how many people on /. believe in Jesus as opposed to Spiderman?

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  14. Re:What a misleading headline- I'LL SAY! by rMortyH · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Most interesting, is there are NO BROWN RECLUSE SPIDERS IN CALIFORNIA!

    People will argue that there are, and they know someone whose been bitten, but loxosceles reclusa has only been found a handful of times in California in the last 50 years, all of the cases were isolated, and all were traced to shipments from outside the state. (great page from UC Berkeley prof on this that I can't find now...)

    A south american recluse has been spotted in the LA area but is not thought to be established.

    There are certainly NONE of these in Manteca.

    I can tell you though, that although there are none in San Francisco, people will argue that there are to the point of absurdity, so this is a sort of pet subject of mine about how people are wrong.

    However, there are so many Black Widows in the Manteca area that you can find several on a twenty minute walk if you're looking for them. Also, Black widow venom IS a neurotoxin, where recluse venom is not. There are also plenty of scorpions and biting centipedes in the area, but no recluses.

    Also, in cases where brown recluse IS confirmed, even in one case of large numbers of them in a family home, there were no bites. They're very rare, and necrosis from a CONFIRMED bite is very rare as well.

    Most of what you hear about poisonous spiders, even 'first hand accounts', are simply myths. Real brown recluses and black widows are just not very dangerous to healthy adults, and the brown recluses simply does not exist in most places where people claim to have seen them or claim to have been bitten.

    I'm most fascinated by the passion with which people will argue against this, even though it can be confirmed just by checking a few books!

    =rmortyh

  15. Reporting Fail by bsander · · Score: 3, Informative

    The story with a little less bullshit is here: http://www.theskepticsguide.org/sgublog/?p=519

  16. Screw spiderman... by JCSoRocks · · Score: 5, Funny

    Let's get this thing to bite a pig!

    SPIDER PIG
    SPIDER PIG
    Does whatever a SPIDER PIG does
    Can he swing
    From a web
    No he cant
    He's a pig
    LOOK OOOUUUTTT!!!!
    He is a SPIDER PIG!!

    You're welcome for getting that stuck in your head for the rest of the day...

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  17. Re:And it did not take him long to get arrested ei by psychcf · · Score: 2, Funny

    Arrested for domestic violence? My god, this man really is spiderman!

  18. 8 months of rehab is the real reason by bmfs · · Score: 2, Informative

    From: http://www.theskepticsguide.org/sgublog/?p=519 by Steven Novella

    Here is the real story, as best as I can infer from the information I am given, but I have a high degree of confidence in my interpretation. First, it is not plausible that the spider bite itself did anything to regenerate nerves or muscles or improve David Blancarte's neurological function. So what did happen. The story reports:

    Ever since, David's been relying on his wheelchair to get around. Then the spider bite. A Brown Recluse sent him to the hospital, then to rehab for eight months.

    It is always important to seperate out variables when considering cause and effect. There are at least three variables we are being presented - Blancarte was biten by a brown recluse (which is poisonous), then he was treated for his bite in the hospital, and then he spent eight months in rehab. Of those three variables, which one is most likely to have resulted in his ability to walk? My bet is on the eight months of rehab.

    To understand this we must further separate out variables. Motor ability (like walking) results from two general categories of factors - neurological and functional. Neurological factors include things like how intact the spinal cord and nerves are, and is there any damage to specific parts of the brain. Functional factors include conditioning, training, and motivation. So the question we must always ask when someone makes an improvement in motor ability is: was their improvement neurological, functional, or both.

  19. Re:What a misleading headline- I'LL SAY! by Hangingcurve · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I have lived in Missouri for 33 years and the Brown Recluse is a very common spider here. They are inside everybody's home. I see them on a daily basis.

    If they were anywhere near as dangerous as they've been made out to be, half the population of Missouri would be dead and the other half would be walking around with rotting holes in their face.

    You would basically have to roll over or sit on one with bare skin exposed to risk a bite. A great majority of the actual bites are "dry" meaning no venom.

    Internet pictures of bites are extreme rare cases where the person is either highly allergic to these sort of things, like with bees, or they allowed the bite mark to become seriously infected.

    Most people who have been bitten won't be able to distinguish it from a mosquito bite.

    Now that I've said my peace, I must go spray my house down with spider poison because I'm sure I'll get bit and die now for opening my mouth.

  20. Re:What a misleading headline- I'LL SAY! by Scott+Williams · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Maybe you're thinking of this? It's not hosted at UC Berkeley, but it does sound like what you're talking about. I found a reference to it at Wikipedia.

  21. Re:What a misleading headline- I'LL SAY! by Opyros · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There's also this page, which is part of a site all about spider myths.