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Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch Provokes Bomb Scare

Bomb disposal teams were called in and a nearby pub evacuated after water company engineers mistook a Monty Python film prop for a hand grenade. After nearly an hour of examination by bomb experts, they counted to three. No more. No less. Three was the number they counted, and the number they counted was three. Four they did not count, nor two, except to proceed to three. Five was right out. Once the number three had been reached, being the third number, they declared that the grenade was actually a copy of the "Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch" used in the film Monty Python And The Holy Grail. A police spokeswoman confirmed that the device was a toy and that it had been no danger to the public.

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  1. Whiny bastards by grasshoppa · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Local businesses criticised the police for taking so long to realise there was no threat. Alberto Romanelli, owner of the Windmill put that was evacuated, said: "I lost a good hour's worth of business."

    What a bunch of whiny little bitches. I bet they'd have been whining pretty loudly if the cops were faster but didn't a thorough job of it.

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    1. Re:Whiny bastards by retchdog · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's not whining, it's a statement of damages. The world would be a better place, if the aggregate of costs like this were counted in policing decisions.

      Fat chance, though; here in the US, stomping black teens to death and shooting mothers; grandmothers; kids; and even the mayor's dogs, is just a day in the life of a SWAT Drug Warrior.

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    2. Re:Whiny bastards by spacefiddle · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Hmmm. From TFA:

      Water company engineers spotted the object when they lifted up a fire hydrant cover during work on a street in Shoreditch, east London.

      If it's the mass-produced replica pictured - does the goddamn thing look like an explosive device? Do you think maybe the word GRENADE on it had almost everything to do with this?

      "spotted a cheap piece of crap and kicked it away as they got to work" would have been the events of the day, had that placard not been on it, i betcha. So some genius thought a bright gold beanbag with a silver cross and a plastic gem on it was a bomb, because it said HOLY BOMB on it.

      Add to that years of pandering to public idiocy and paranoia, and you wonder if a city couldn't be shut down overnight by putting little post-its with the word BOMB on it all over the place. "Well, we can't take the chance! We have to assume it is!"

      Bah, i'm not explaining this as clearly as i'd like. And maybe TFA doesn't fully explain the context, i grant you. Bottom line, i believe the only reason this happened is this very un-bomb-like object had the word GRENADE on it. -shudder-

    3. Re:Whiny bastards by grasshoppa · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Once the bomb squad's involved, they must treat it like it's a real explosive until they can determine otherwise. Were I a criminal with a grudge against cops, I would do something exactly like this in the hopes they dismissed it as a toy. Then, when they got close because it's just a toy, I'd blow it.

      Can you imagine cops not taking it seriously, and having it hurt the public?

      Talk about a lose lose situation.

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    4. Re:Whiny bastards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      So some genius thought a bright gold beanbag with a silver cross and a plastic gem on it was a bomb, because it said HOLY BOMB on it.

      "Genius" must've been undead. Not like anyone else is going to be overly concerned about holy damage.

    5. Re:Whiny bastards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      If I were a terrorist, which I assure you I'm not, then I would disguise my weapons as toy weapons. And I would put blinking LEDs on it, and perhaps make the toy-bomb-like objects tick. Of course, if I were a terrorist, I would assure you that, even though I have thought about ways to hide weapons, I am in fact not a terrorist. Wait, there's someone at the door...

    6. Re:Whiny bastards by Gat0r30y · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Do you ever suspect that stories like this are out there - this, the whole adult swim guerrilla marketing fiasco, and so on- to get us to stop pandering to public idiocy and paranoia then when nobody is paranoid anymore they come for us?
      Also, I need a new tinfoil hat, this one has lost its pizazz.

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    7. Re:Whiny bastards by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Add to that years of pandering to public idiocy and paranoia, and you wonder if a city couldn't be shut down overnight by putting little post-its with the word BOMB on it all over the place. "Well, we can't take the chance! We have to assume it is!"

      Like this guy with a picture of a gun on his shirt.

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    8. Re:Whiny bastards by guruevi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Maybe somebody wanted to go home early?

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    9. Re:Whiny bastards by Adrian+Lopez · · Score: 3, Funny

      "I bet they'd have been whining pretty loudly if the cops were faster but didn't a thorough job of it."

      I can imagine. Just think of all the lives they'd have put at risk by not taking every precaution necessary in disabling a toy grenade.

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    10. Re:Whiny bastards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      If you're in a war, instead of throwing a hand grenade at the enemy, throw one of those small pumpkins. Maybe it'll make everyone think how stupid war is, and while they are thinking, you can throw a real grenade at them.

    11. Re:Whiny bastards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If *I* were a criminal with a grudge against cops, I wouldn't use a plastic replica of the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch. I'd use an everyday item that nobody would expect to be dangerous at all (say, a book) and that cannot be viewed with suspicion in general simply because it's too common.

      What you're advocating is panicking at the sight of just about anything out of the ordinary, and CYA security.

    12. Re:Whiny bastards by The+Mighty+Buzzard · · Score: 1

      Maybe it's different in Great Britain. Over here in the States though either it's an emergency and they're busting much ass or the rest of the utility crew are standing around watching one guy work. I'm pretty sure passing up a perfectly good chance to dick off is against union rules.

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    13. Re:Whiny bastards by Jurily · · Score: 1

      If you're in a war, instead of throwing a hand grenade at the enemy, throw one of those small pumpkins. Maybe it'll make everyone think how stupid war is, and while they are thinking, you can throw a real grenade at them.

      If you're in a war, and you're close enough to throw a grenade at them, you're doing it wrong. In the Land Of The Free, you sit home and bitch about the government while watching the news.

    14. Re:Whiny bastards by Pantero+Blanco · · Score: 3, Insightful

      A BAA spokesman said there was no record of the incident and no "formal complaint" had been made.

      "If a T-shirt had a rude word or a bomb on it, for example, a passenger may be asked to remove it," he said.

      "We are investigating what happened to see if it came under this category.

      "If it's offensive, we don't want other passengers upset."

      So, if it had been a realistic picture of a Beretta, or a rapper or a cowboy holding a pistol, everyone would have nodded at their "wise decision" and the incident wouldn't have even warranted an article? If it's a cartoon robot holding the gun, then it's a gray area and they need to think about it?

      Where are the adults in Britain and what are they doing?

    15. Re:Whiny bastards by compro01 · · Score: 0

      If he were a WoW player, he would be. There's no holy resistance.

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    16. Re:Whiny bastards by Metasquares · · Score: 5, Insightful

      When weighed against a possible loss of lives, the cost of an hour's business at a Windmill is insignificant.

    17. Re:Whiny bastards by speedtux · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm sorry, but the thought of a terrorist hiding a real bomb in a replica of the Holy Handgrenade of Antioch is just totally bizarre.

      I mean, as this story shows, you shouldn't pick something that causes head scratching, but instead pick something that even the most uneducated would consider harmless: a dead gerbil, a water soaked book, a breadbox, whatever.

    18. Re:Whiny bastards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      As a guess, I'd say probably hiding from all the cameras.

    19. Re:Whiny bastards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The world would be a better place, if the aggregate of costs like this were counted in policing decisions.

      That's bullshit and you won't be saying that after you lose a wife/husband, sister/brother, daughter/son to a bomb that the police didn't defuse in time because they were concerned about the amount of money local business' would lose.

    20. Re:Whiny bastards by narcberry · · Score: 1

      If I were a terrorist waiting for orders, which I assure you I'm not, I would disguise my weapons as instructed. Muhammad Al'Hasini and I agree the LEDs are a good idea and will get to work, if we were terrorists, which we assure you we are not.

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    21. Re:Whiny bastards by Zero_DgZ · · Score: 1

      The implication of this is that some mad bomber could make a real bomb and just put some damn fool marking on it, causing people to cheerfully ignore it because it doesn't look like something they saw on TV or in a cartoon. Leave out the blinky lights and stenciled "explosive" markings (not to mention pins and sparkly fuses) but instead put it in a box labeled "water pump equipment" or "1 doz. Acme paving stones." Hell, if you put the thing in a burlap sack with a dollar sign on it some moron would probably try to steal it and bring it home.

    22. Re:Whiny bastards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Once the bomb squad's involved, they must treat it like it's a real explosive until they can determine otherwise. Were I a criminal with a grudge against cops, I would do something exactly like this in the hopes they dismissed it as a toy. Then, when they got close because it's just a toy, I'd blow it.

      Can you imagine cops not taking it seriously, and having it hurt the public?

      Talk about a lose lose situation.

      Let's generously assume that 1 in 1000 devices that are not obviously bombs from a visual inspection, but have been reported as bombs, are actually bombs, disguised as everyday objects.

      Now, honestly, which is worse: treating 999 of these objects as non-bombs, and going about our lives like normal people, or getting 1 wrong?

      I honestly think the answer is not cut and dried. The cost of 999 false alarms is not negligible. It breeds unwarranted fear.

    23. Re:Whiny bastards by Sperbels · · Score: 3, Funny

      Woosh

    24. Re:Whiny bastards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks, Jack Handey.

    25. Re:Whiny bastards by mikael · · Score: 1


      Robin: Holy bat boxes Batman, I think the Joker has placed bombs in the bat box.

      Batman: Your right, we can't take the chance, we must inform the mayor and the bomb squad immediately.

      Bat defences pierced by bomb panic

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    26. Re:Whiny bastards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Don't forget to also paint the ends of the barrels on your weapons with orange paint. The momentary hesitation this may cause could save your life.

    27. Re:Whiny bastards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      Just go home and put on your fucking safety helmet then. Leave the real world to us grown-ups.

    28. Re:Whiny bastards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Precisely, I work in security and the deal is that you don't know until you've examined the device whether or not it's dangerous. In some cases the bomb squad can't even be sure. Which is how things like hot dogs end up being blown up by experts.

      While it's unlikely that such a device would be dangerous the reality is that things as harmless looking as a box of chocolates or a book can be deadly ordinance if rigged up properly. Assuming in retrospect that it was a dumb thing to be concerned with is a bit over the top.

    29. Re:Whiny bastards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Quick, he's distracted by the joke, throw your grenade now!

    30. Re:Whiny bastards by Chris+Tucker · · Score: 1

      LEDs are NEVER a "good idea"...

      IN BOSTON!

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    31. Re:Whiny bastards by 1u3hr · · Score: 4, Insightful
      When weighed against a possible loss of lives, the cost of an hour's business at a Windmill is insignificant.

      This argument can be used to justify anything the police decide to do, even if as in this case, there was NO RISK AT ALL. As in the even sillier case of the "Aqua Teen Hunger Force" hysteria in Boston. Even if the frontline staff know, or should have known, that there was no danger at all, the response by ass-covering bureaucrats is to declare a full terror alert.

      And all the airline security measures, the idiotic restrictions on liquids because of a fantasy threat that could never have been carried out are the same. NO ONE IS SAFER because of this security theatre.

    32. Re:Whiny bastards by PachmanP · · Score: 0, Troll

      Only if you some how ascribe a ridiculous value to human life. We're animals; there's 6 billion of us. Life is cheap, and beer isn't free.

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    33. Re:Whiny bastards by wjsteele · · Score: 1

      [FIXED]the cost of an hour's business at a Windmill is insignificant... next to the power of the force!

      I hate it when someone doesn't finish a good quote!!! :-)

      Bill

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    34. Re:Whiny bastards by palegray.net · · Score: 3, Interesting

      the idiotic restrictions on liquids because of a fantasy threat that could never have been carried out

      I think the airline restrictions are pretty stupid myself, but mainly for reasons you probably haven't thought of. However, having a military background, I can assure you that your belief that small volumes of fluids can't be used to cause catastrophic damage is sorely in need of a reality check.

    35. Re:Whiny bastards by Mistshadow2k4 · · Score: 1

      Only if you some how ascribe a ridiculous value to human life. We're animals; there's 6 billion of us. Life is cheap, and beer isn't free.

      That is a statement one would expect from a psychopath. If you really believe that -- not just trolling -- then you need to see a psychiatrist. Seriously. If you see human life as so valueless then you will eventually kill someone, if you haven't already.

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    36. Re:Whiny bastards by palegray.net · · Score: 1

      Hey, deep thoughts happen. Usually when you least expect. Just think about that...

    37. Re:Whiny bastards by 1u3hr · · Score: 1
      I think the airline restrictions are pretty stupid myself, but mainly for reasons you probably haven't thought of. However, having a military background, I can assure you that your belief that small volumes of fluids can't be used to cause catastrophic damage is sorely in need of a reality check.

      Suicide bombers on planes are very rare, and usually pretty dumb. None of those who've tried have had any chance of carrying it off. And if there were a competent suicide bomber, he'd have no trouble circumventing the current security.

      I don't think they've ever caught a real bomber, just idiot wannabes like Richard Reid. (And in his honour, now they pay particular attention to combat boots, though he was actually wearing sports shoes.)

    38. Re:Whiny bastards by rocker_wannabe · · Score: 1

      If it ISN'T your bar then, technically, it would probably be insignificant even if the prop blew the place to pieces, unless you were in the vicinity. When it IS your bar then it becomes significant.

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    39. Re:Whiny bastards by Dr.+Hellno · · Score: 3, Insightful

      things as harmless looking as a box of chocolates or a book can be deadly ordinance if rigged up properly.

      That's exactly the point. Normal people can't actually tell a book or anything else from a bomb, so unless there's a credible threat (a phoned-in threat, or a tip with some real substance and technical detail to it) it really is a waste of time and resources to investigate every little suspicion. If this had been a bomb, it's unlikely that anyone would have suspected as much just by looking at it.

    40. Re:Whiny bastards by gabebear · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The point wasn't that small volumes of liquid aren't dangerous, but that banning them is idiotic. For one, there is no way to actually stop people from having liquids on a plane. Secondly, you can use anything to bring down a plane; the 911 highjackers used boxcutters.

      To get back to retchdog's point; banning liquids has cost several hundreds of millions of dollars. What have we gotten for that money? Has banning liquids made it any harder for you to bring down a plane?

    41. Re:Whiny bastards by Chris+Hiner · · Score: 1

      So if I make a bomb, and put "This is not a bomb" on it, then no-one will think it's a bomb?

    42. Re:Whiny bastards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And since he changed his shirt, he's no longer a potential terrorist and is allowed on the plane...

    43. Re:Whiny bastards by gabebear · · Score: 1

      Your wording is interesting... You talk like you have never tried to put a monetary value to human life.

      If you actually think human-life is priceless then how do you live with yourself in this world? Globally, the value of a human-life seems to be largely a product of nationality and personal wealth.

    44. Re:Whiny bastards by colinrichardday · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Does the amount of human life saved by such security measures exceed the amount of human life lost due to extra security (in the form of waiting in line)?

    45. Re:Whiny bastards by Kral_Blbec · · Score: 1

      No, he is advocating panicking at the sight of everything, ordinary and ordinary.

    46. Re:Whiny bastards by palegray.net · · Score: 1

      No it hasn't made it any harder to bring down a plane, especially anyone with a military background or a decent amount of training. Evil people could still easily accomplish the task. Again, I don't take any issue with the view that banning certain volumes of fluids on airlines is idiotic.

    47. Re:Whiny bastards by jamstar7 · · Score: 1

      However, having a military background, I can assure you that your belief that small volumes of fluids can't be used to cause catastrophic damage is sorely in need of a reality check.

      Agreed. And explosives are fairly easy to improvise from stuff under the kitchen sink if you've had the training to do it.

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    48. Re:Whiny bastards by Lemmy+Caution · · Score: 3, Informative

      It hasn't been made impossible, but it has been made harder. But not because of anything being done by the TSA.

      Bruce Schneier correctly named the two post-9/11 changes that matter. The first is reinforced, locking doors to the cockpit. The second is the change in passenger behavior. These two elements make the task for a would-be terrorist all the more difficult. Everything else is theater.

    49. Re:Whiny bastards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >>> you wonder if a city couldn't be shut down overnight by putting little post-its with the word BOMB on it all over the place.

      Noooooo don't give them ideas!!!

    50. Re:Whiny bastards by Wild+Wizard · · Score: 1

      And all the airline security measures, the idiotic restrictions on liquids because of a fantasy threat that could never have been carried out are the same.

      Actually the liquid bomb threat was real though you should question why it took 10 years for security to crack down on it.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine_Airlines_Flight_434

    51. Re:Whiny bastards by Kabuthunk · · Score: 1

      Simple reason they ban liquids at security.

      So you're forced to buy drinks on the plane, or from the snack bar past security.

      It's all about the $.

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    52. Re:Whiny bastards by dotancohen · · Score: 1

      You jest, but I once threw a stun grenade at some idiot because I didn't have a flak grenade (or what ever you call them in English) on me. The genius lowered his rifle and _picked_it_up_! I saw it blow up in his hand, but I didn't get to see what happened to him because we were a bit busy in the other direction as well. I wonder what he thought it was, as stun grenades are bright orange and don't look like flak grenades. I wonder if, had I thrown a flak grenade, the end result would have been as effective.

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    53. Re:Whiny bastards by dotancohen · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If you're in a war, and you're close enough to throw a grenade at them, you're doing it wrong. In the Land Of The Free, you sit home and bitch about the government while watching the news.

      Not at all! The only way to "get the terrorists" and not hurt their brother or sister is to go in there and pull him out manually. I'm sorry, but the US-style of just bombing everyone and everything is murder. A soldier's job is first and foremost to protect civilians, whether those civilians be your own people or the other guy's. Yes, soldiers daily risk their own lives to protect the "other side"'s civilians. That is exactly what the job is about.

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    54. Re:Whiny bastards by dotancohen · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I can imagine. Just think of all the lives they'd have put at risk by not taking every precaution necessary in disabling a potential grenade.

      There, fixed that for you.

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    55. Re:Whiny bastards by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      We call them frags or frag grenades, short for 'fragmentation grenade'.

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    56. Re:Whiny bastards by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      ... and eventually swings the other way into carelessness.

      After 10,000 false alarms, you would start to expect them to be false.

      Balance is the answer here, as it is to so many other questions.

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    57. Re:Whiny bastards by shentino · · Score: 1

      Not to mention stretching out resources and making it easy for a finite amount of manpower to miss a real one.

      It's a lot like a DDoS. Flood the bomb squad with crap alerts, and they don't service the good ones.

    58. Re:Whiny bastards by 1u3hr · · Score: 1
      Actually the liquid bomb threat was real though you should question why it took 10 years for security to crack down on it.

      No, the liquid bomb threat wasn't real. Not the way those losers supposedly tried it anyway. And have you heard there are explosive solids? Should we then ban all solids from flights? If not, how is it different?

      The link you gave says that bomb was nitroglycerin. Well, that should be detected in any case, if they're using chemical or dog sniffers.

    59. Re:Whiny bastards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess we are just finding a balance between when to do security checks and make laws. Having laws that require kids on cycles = good idea. Having laws that ban liquids on airplanes = bad idea. Thinking everything is a bomb = stupid.

    60. Re:Whiny bastards by shellbeach · · Score: 4, Insightful

      When weighed against a possible loss of lives, the cost of an hour's business at a Windmill is insignificant.

      To take that argument to its logical absurdity, the safest way for us to live our lives would be for us all to stay in our houses and never go anywhere. Not only would that stop the terrorists, but it would eliminate the road toll, prevent mass murders and the worst anyone would ever have to fear would be cutting themselves on the cheese grater.

      But we don't do that, because we accept that there will always be an element of risk in our lives, and that the compensation is a life that's happy, interesting and entertaining. Yes, it sucks if you're the one knocked down by a bus as you cross the road; but the chances of that happening are so small that we just accept the remote possibility and move on, safe in the knowledge that it's highly unlikely to happen to us. Considering that the chances of being killed in a terrorist attack are even less than being hit by a bus, why should we view it in any other way than as an incredibly remote, and therefore acceptable, risk? If we start jumping at shadows for things such as the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch, then we've got problems ...

      (Thankfully, the global financial crisis has pretty much shoved terrorism into the background where it belongs. Nobody cares about Osama anymore, when they've got more immediate worries like mortgages to deal with ...)

    61. Re:Whiny bastards by JRIsidore · · Score: 1

      Yeah, it really makes sense that I cannot take my shampoo or toothpaste with me because they want me to buy drinks on the plane. Not everything is about money.

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    62. Re:Whiny bastards by dotancohen · · Score: 1

      Thanks.

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    63. Re:Whiny bastards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A BAA spokesman said there was no record of the incident and no "formal complaint" had been made.

      "If it's offensive, we don't want other passengers upset."

      Dear BAA spokesperson - travelling by air thesed days is totally offensive by definition. Cut the crap.

    64. Re:Whiny bastards by thebjorn · · Score: 1

      bah, moderation system sucks. posting to cancel, sorry.

    65. Re:Whiny bastards by Shipwack · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Having been in the military, and actually involved in real security duty, I can assure you that almost all of the TSA restrictions are theatrics to show they are "doing something", and counter-productive at worst, including the liquid restrictions. Small volumes of liquids can't cause catastrophic damage, outside of a movie or TV show. While there are liquid explosives, they are neither easily obtainable, or easily made outside a laboratory. But... let's say this magic substance existed, and that it was only the fact that you can't bring more than a quarter ounce of liquids on board that keep a terrorist from manufacturing them in flight. The TSA regulations are -still- stupid because nothing prevents several people from bring a quarter ounce each and combining them. Or one person bringing a quarter ounce in a shampoo bottle, a quarter ounce of "medicine", a quarter ounce of "toothpaste", etc...

    66. Re:Whiny bastards by Shipwack · · Score: 1

      Not to mention that they don't prohibit lighter or matches on airplanes, which he was using to attempt to "detonate" the shoe bomb.

      Why are matches allowed, but a can of soda is a security threat? Because the cigarette industry whined that the 2 minutes that a person couldn't smoke upon leaving a plane was costing them money, so an item that actually was used in an attempted terrorist attack is effectively unrestricted.

    67. Re:Whiny bastards by zoney_ie · · Score: 1

      Well, one point is that you can still bring small volumes of liquid on board an aircraft, albeit in 100 ml containers in a plastic bag. And indeed larger containers of liquid are not always detected going through X-ray if left in hand luggage. There is no repercussion whatsoever if you are caught trying to bring a large container of liquid through (except that it's taken off you and disposed of haphazardly). How does this magically stop any theoretical liquid plot? Answer - it doesn't, anyone wishing to do one need merely keep trying till they "got lucky".

      Hence, it is security theatre.

      Even much more serious forbidden items are merely taken off you if detected (the important word being "if"). It would be far better to dispense with the theatre and operate under the assumption that yes someone could have dangerous objects on-board - taking relevant precautions of a sensible feasible level and having established procedures for implementing in emergency.

      Security theatre merely helps with the "instilling terror" part of the extremists' plans and the disruption of everyday civilised life.

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    68. Re:Whiny bastards by zoney_ie · · Score: 1

      Have the probabilities been weighed up of locked cockpit doors theoretically hindering help in an emergency, versus theoretically hindering attacks? Has anyone done any study or reasoning on this at all?

      Maybe it's for the best, but I do not feel reassured that it has been a calmly considered rational decision.

      As for the change in passenger behaviour - the changes in people's behaviour are exactly what extremists want. It is *not* a positive development even if people's paranoia means they will theoretically be more likely to catch a potential threat. Possibly new rules of engagement for what to do in a dangerous situation are an improvement, but even now these have not been coherently communicated to passengers and crew, definitively tied down or carefully planned (not that you can plan for all eventualities).

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    69. Re:Whiny bastards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "..Just think of all the lives they'd have put at risk by not taking every precaution necessary in disabling a potential grenade..."

      EVERYTHING is a POTENTIAL hand grenade!

      Let us disable everything! Wouldn't that be stupid? Oh, wait.....

    70. Re:Whiny bastards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      '...To take that argument to its logical absurdity, the safest way for us to live our lives would be for us all to stay in our houses and never go anywhere...'

      Umm...no. Most accidents happen in the home. Most people die either at home or in hospital.

      To thake the argument to its logical absurdity, we should close down all homes and hospitals, and have everybody live on top of Mount Everest, because comparitively few people die there. (quite a lot die getting up there, but that's another story)

    71. Re:Whiny bastards by dotancohen · · Score: 1

      I suppose that you live in a place where bombs have not yet been known to explode at random. London has had bomb attacks in the recent past.

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    72. Re:Whiny bastards by evilbessie · · Score: 1

      We have been bombed by the Irish quite a lot for 40 years, so we take bomb threats seriously. In this case there was no problem at all, and an hour seems very quick (you don't rush when you think you have a bomb, just in case it is one). It's a funny story because it wasn't a bomb it was a prop, but it could have been different it's safer not to take a chance. But then I feel safer with British police around, I really didn't when I was in New York on the subway with 20 cops in the same car.

    73. Re:Whiny bastards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Absolutely. You only have to look at the amount of money spent here to avoid the risk that, in the absolute worst case, a few Westerners might have died.

      Compare that to the number of African lives that could certainly have been saved by putting the same amount of money into providing e.g. HIV treatment, and it's hard to avoid the conclusion that very few people really believe that human life is sacred and priceless. What most people really believe is that the lives of their tribe are priceless, and nobody else is worth a damn.

      Except maybe the more photogenic sort of starving children, who are worth tossing the occasional crust to, to assuage our own consciences.

    74. Re:Whiny bastards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, bullshit. Do you always whine just to hear yourself complain? It does not matter if they have matches or not, they will not be smoking as soon as they get off the plane. Not having matches does not cost them 2 minutes before they can smoke. Smoking is not allowed in any airport anywhere in the US, and I assume you are talking about the US because (1.) Your complaint was bout the U.S. Tobacco industry (2.) Its popular to complain about the US (3.) You sound like a whinny little bitch who complains about shit because its popular to complain about them. With or without matches in your pocket, when you deplane, at minimum you will have to walk outside, regardless of weather you have the matches in hand or not, and you will always pass a shop selling cigarettes and matches/lighters on your way out. At worst, you will have to wait until you are actually in your car, where you are free to stash a spare book of matches if your car does not have a lighter. Damn you people are whining bitches. This is why companies, other people, the governemnt etc no long listen when people complain, its like the boy who cried wolf, when you bitch about everything, they stop listening.

    75. Re:Whiny bastards by genw3st · · Score: 1

      Of course this is true!

      It's pretty entertaining to think that one could distract the police quite easily with a couple "holy hand grenade" bombs, and then "set us up the bomb" for real somewhere else...

      It's a pity that we live in the age where everyone thinks everything is out to get them...

    76. Re:Whiny bastards by Metasquares · · Score: 1

      The police don't realize that it's a plush prop from a Monty Python skit, though. They get a call that says "There's a bomb". I'm sure most of these turn out to be nothing, but I'd prefer they come running rather than debate whether it's worth their time to come down there. It models how they'd respond if the bomb were real.

    77. Re:Whiny bastards by Arancaytar · · Score: 1

      little post-its with the word BOMB on it

      I prepared explosive runes this morning.

    78. Re:Whiny bastards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One... Two.... Five!!!

      "Three sir!"

      Three!

    79. Re:Whiny bastards by Raffaello · · Score: 1

      A soldier's job is first and foremost to protect civilians, whether those civilians be your own people or the other guy's.

      I don't know what makes you think this is how wars are fought. Despite romantic notions of chivalry, wars have never been fought this way.

      The sad reality of history is that wars are fought to accomplish the political and economic ends of those in control of military force. It has always been the norm for civilians to be harmed in the course of warfare. People who believe that war is a legitimate means of accomplishing political and/or economic goals (not just defense of one's own people and territory) are quite comfortable with the notion that civilians will be killed or have their lives ripped apart.

    80. Re:Whiny bastards by dwillden · · Score: 1

      Absolutely correct, let me add to your knowledgebase my being in the military and with my duties including being actually involved in assesing of threat vulnerabilities (Identifying weaknesses in security and how to fix them.), you hit the nail on the head.

      But you did forget the easiest way to circumvent the 3 oz rule. Slap a prescription label on it and they'll wave it right through.

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    81. Re:Whiny bastards by lgw · · Score: 1

      And? Everything is STILL a potential bomb. You react to CREDIBLE threats, not toys with "grenade" written on them, or light-bright moonenites. The farce here is that people so routinely overreact to the threat they've been conditined to see in movies - obvious bombs with bright LED counters ticking down, and other stupid BS. That NOT what makes for a credible threat.

      Arresting "everything unexpected" makes for fascism, plain and simple. That's exactly the wrong way to respond to the threat posed by terrorism.

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    82. Re:Whiny bastards by dotancohen · · Score: 1

      And? Everything is STILL a potential bomb.

      To you who does not specialize in the field, I'm sure that everything is still a potential bomb. Those with a bit of experience can make informed decisions.

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    83. Re:Whiny bastards by dotancohen · · Score: 1

      A soldier's job is first and foremost to protect civilians, whether those civilians be your own people or the other guy's.

      I don't know what makes you think this is how wars are fought. Despite romantic notions of chivalry, wars have never been fought this way.

      Not where I serve. I am currently a reserve soldier, but I've fought in Jenin, Ramallah, Gaza, and Lebanon. The civilians there are our neighbors. They happen to be infected with a cancer (Hamas, Hezbollah) but that does not make the civilians any less human.

      The sad reality of history is that wars are fought to accomplish the political and economic ends of those in control of military force. It has always been the norm for civilians to be harmed in the course of warfare. People who believe that war is a legitimate means of accomplishing political and/or economic goals (not just defense of one's own people and territory) are quite comfortable with the notion that civilians will be killed or have their lives ripped apart.

      I'm sure glad that I did not serve in whatever army you represent.

      The reality of our situation is to protect civilians. We know that they get hurt often enough, on both sides, but we try to minimize that. Actually, in my army there is now a controversy over soldiers who claim to have fired on civilians during "relaxed rules of engagement" during an operation two months ago. They will likely be tried for murder, and rightly so, assuming that they were not just talking out of their ass.

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    84. Re:Whiny bastards by 1u3hr · · Score: 1
      Have the probabilities been weighed up of locked cockpit doors theoretically hindering help in an emergency, versus theoretically hindering attacks? Has anyone done any study or reasoning on this at all?

      If you're talking about getting the crew out of the cockpit in a hurry, I think they could smash the windows if necessary. If it seemed necessary, they could install an explosive release.

      In any case, they do take safety extremely seriously on airplanes, as opposed to the bullshit in the airports, so I'm sure they have weighed the risks.

    85. Re:Whiny bastards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wenn ist das Nunstruck git und Slotermeyer? Ja!...
      Beiherhund das Oder die Flipperwaldt gersput!

    86. Re:Whiny bastards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This was a special bomb, one each issued to us for this mission with instructions to use them if we found ways to make them effective. The squawking I heard as I threw it was the bomb shouting in skinny talk (free translation): "I'm a thirty-second bomb! I'm a thirty-second bomb! Twenty-nine! . . . twenty-eight! . . . twenty-seven! -- "

    87. Re:Whiny bastards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can imagine. Just think of all the lives they'd have put at risk by not taking every precaution necessary in disabling a potential grenade.

      There, fixed that for you.

      The barstools are "potential" grenades too. Better check those next, and you look uncomfortable. There could "potentially" be a grenade up your ass, better check that too.

      If you think there is a grenade in your bar about to go off, throw it in a bucket of water or move away. If it doesn't go off.... get a bigger bucket of water and knock/string pull it in there.

    88. Re:Whiny bastards by sixsixtysix · · Score: 1

      They want you to buy the shampoo and toothpaste when you land, preferably at an over-priced airport shop.

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    89. Re:Whiny bastards by alcmaeon · · Score: 1

      Um, if it actually looks like the picture above, and was found in the manner described, how thorough a job of it does one need to do?

      Now, conceivably everything in the world could be a cleverly disguised bomb, the Holy Hand-grenade could simply have been a distraction to keep the police from finding the real bomb in the fire hydrant itself. But in order to treat something as a bomb that, on the face of it, obviously is not, wouldn't we need at least a scintilla of evidence that it presented some actual danger?

      This was stupidity, pure and simple. The bomb squad guys probably don't get any real action, so they like to play at it. After all, they do have to justify their salaries.

    90. Re:Whiny bastards by Chardish · · Score: 1

      If the police aren't able to ascertain within 10 seconds of looking at that thing that it's not a bomb, they aren't doing their jobs.

      Remember that the police get far far far far more bomb hoaxes and empty threats than they do actual bombs. Separating signal from noise is essential to them doing their jobs.

    91. Re:Whiny bastards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Local businesses criticised the police for taking so long to realise there was no threat.

      Alberto Romanelli, owner of the Windmill put that was evacuated, said: "I lost a good hour's worth of business."

      What a bunch of whiny little bitches. I bet they'd have been whining pretty loudly if the cops were faster but didn't a thorough job of it.

      hmm yeah I can see why the soft, embroidered "bomb" could easily be confused with a slick black genuine killing device. What next chasing robers in strippy shirts with bags of "swag". For goodness sake...

    92. Re:Whiny bastards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I see you've discovered my Post it bombs....
      all you need is

      1. standard post-its (to soak in solution)
      2. Iodine Crystals
      3. Ammonia
      4. the words "This is a Bomb" written in sharpie.
      5. video camera to watch as someone dismisses it and grabs the previously soaked and dried note, and it explodes in a cloud of nasty smoke in their hand.

      so yes it could happen... since people wouldnt know if its deadly toxic smoke or not, they would shut places down.

    93. Re:Whiny bastards by Eudial · · Score: 1

      I can imagine. Just think of all the lives they'd have put at risk by not taking every precaution necessary in disabling a potential grenade.

      There, fixed that for you.

      This reply is a grenade sitting upon a pile of dynamite and fertilizer and likely to BLOW UP at any moment.

      There, I fixed that for you.

      Let's wait how long it will take the bomb squad to figure out that text, which is clearly not a grenade, but says it is a grenade, and therefore could be a grenade, is in fact just text.

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    94. Re:Whiny bastards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To thake the argument to its logical absurdity, we should close down all homes and hospitals, and have everybody live on top of Mount Everest, because comparitively few people die there. (quite a lot die getting up there, but that's another story)

      Actually, a lot more people die getting down from there than climbing up there. But nobody could stay alive at the top of Everest for very long for numerous reasons, one of the foremost being the lack of oxygen ... (24 hours, in order to set a world record, is the longest anyone has managed it)

    95. Re:Whiny bastards by FiloEleven · · Score: 1

      Warning: I know nothing about this sort of thing.

      I recall reading somewhere, I believe it was something by Bruce Schneier linked here, actually, that calls bullshit on the liquid ban as well. The problem is that although small volumes of fluids can be used to cause catastrophic damage, the chances of someone doing so on a plane are practically zero in the proper sense, meaning although it is theoretically possible it cannot be done in practice. The liquid chemical mixing bombs like in Die Hard 3 are notoriously difficult to get a reaction from, and it's not as simple as "put chemical A in a bottle with chemical B, shake well." They had people trying to do this stuff in labs with fancy equipment designed for the purpose, and even they failed more often than not to get something explodey.

      In order to do it on a plane, the guy would have to go to the restroom and by all accounts remain there for half an hour, and also have with him some specialized tools that would never get through security on his person or in a carry-on.

      Even if all this were not the case, I'd rather be able to simply get on a plane knowing the risks anyway. I guess that's unamerican nowadays.

    96. Re:Whiny bastards by Harik · · Score: 1

      Generally you put explosives in children's toys. That does the most long-term damage in injuries (the young live longer with their amputated legs) and morale (parents freak right the fuck out).

    97. Re:Whiny bastards by Harik · · Score: 1

      Rene Magritte might.

    98. Re:Whiny bastards by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

      Are you talking about both the pilot and co-pilot taking ill and the flight attendant or a passenger having to land the plane? Because if that's what you're talking about it's never happened (outside of the movies). The Mythbusters researched this when they were doing their "tower crew talks a passenger through landing a plane myth."

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    99. Re:Whiny bastards by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Fine. Get a ballon, drop a lighter in it, partially inflate the balloon, get a grip on the lighter inside the balloon and with out igniting the lighter, turn it on so as allow the lighter fluid and the air inside the balloon to mix, ignite the balloon - boom - size of boom is dependent upon size of balloon, how much you inflate it and how big the lighter is and how good your ratio of fuel to oxygen was. I have not experimented with this, if you do and blow yourself up then you 'were' a bloody idiot ;).

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    100. Re:Whiny bastards by JRIsidore · · Score: 1

      Then they should forbid them completely. You can take any amount of liquid in the regular baggage, and in your hand-baggage small quantities up to 100 ml (that's for UK anyway) per package if you put those in a plastic bag. That doesn't make me buy any new stuff.

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    101. Re:Whiny bastards by dotancohen · · Score: 1

      The barstools are "potential" grenades too. Better check those next, and you look uncomfortable. There could "potentially" be a grenade up your ass, better check that too.

      I'll spell it out nicely for you. A bomb exploded in the shopping mall where my wife and two daughters were yesterday. Fortunately, only a few kilograms of the 40 kilo explosive actually detonated. So you just be grateful that you have two big oceans isolating you from your enemies, and understand that here in the real world we have neighbors who value their 72 virgins in heaven more than the commandment "thou shall not kill".

      http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3690090,00.html

      If you think there is a grenade in your bar about to go off, throw it in a bucket of water or move away. If it doesn't go off.... get a bigger bucket of water and knock/string pull it in there.

      You do that, I can't wait to read about your Darwin award. There is a reason that there is a team of trained professionals called a "bomb squad". And there is a reason that they dress all funny and don't show up with just a bucket of water and a shoestring.

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    102. Re:Whiny bastards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wah wah wah. You're scared, deal with it. The real loss isn't the victims of an attack, but the loss of freedom that comes from security theatre. Let's suppose three people were really killed by a (non Monty Python related) bomb. Assuming a 75 year lifespan, and they are killed in the middle, that's about 120 years of life lost. Let's pretend that an entire population of 30M loses just 1 hour a year to security threatre after that, a ridiculously low assumption. 30M / 8k hr ~= 4k years/120 ~= 30x as much life is wasted in security theatre vs in real loss. Our hour at the pub is worth just as much to us as your dying baby emotional (and irrational) response is to you. It's our life, not yours.

      As for your bomb squad comments, if it is a live grenade, the bomb squad isn't showing up in the 3 seconds it takes to go off. If it's a real grenade, you either run, or try to neutralize it. A handy bucket of water (say, from the mop) is the handiest way to dispose of one aside from jumping on it. I don't know about you, but I don't tip well enough at the local pub to expect the barkeep to save my life at his own life's expense.

      As for your 2 oceans comments, who are you talking to? Certainly not the British (IRA). The Americans? They're retard cowboy President overreacted, but they were still hit. Then again, when we moved to our little island we had the decency to assimilate with or annihilate the local opposing power structures. Rome, roads and all that.

      I'm guessing your "Israeli." You exist in a country that was carved out of the empire of the losing side of a war. No wonder your neighbors don't like you. Don't give me any ancestral homeland bullshit, otherwise the American's who guard your presumptuous selves and drag us into their wars would have to give New York back to the Navajo or whoever they took it from.

    103. Re:Whiny bastards by Hordeking · · Score: 1

      When weighed against a possible loss of lives, the cost of an hour's business at a Windmill is insignificant.

      This argument can be used to justify anything the police decide to do, even if as in this case, there was NO RISK AT ALL. As in the even sillier case of the "Aqua Teen Hunger Force" hysteria in Boston. Even if the frontline staff know, or should have known, that there was no danger at all, the response by ass-covering bureaucrats is to declare a full terror alert.

      And all the airline security measures, the idiotic restrictions on liquids because of a fantasy threat that could never have been carried out are the same. NO ONE IS SAFER because of this security theatre.

      Ironically, one can use security theatre to waste vast amounts of resources. For instance, one sets up hoax devices around in legal spots (with the tag on them "this is not a bomb"). Noone ever claims it was a bomb, so nothing illegal happens. Of course, the authorities scramble to verify that they aren't bombs, wasting inordinate resources and looking like complete goobers.

      We need to tear down the security theatre if we're ever to win our freedom back. But I'm not counting on any help from the sheeple.

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    104. Re:Whiny bastards by vrmlguy · · Score: 1

      A soldier's job is first and foremost to protect civilians, whether those civilians be your own people or the other guy's. Yes, soldiers daily risk their own lives to protect the "other side"'s civilians. That is exactly what the job is about.

      Please reconcile your statement with any of the events listed here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocides_in_history. Very few of these were perpetrated by Americans, most were by or with the support of soldiers.

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    105. Re:Whiny bastards by dotancohen · · Score: 1

      Many dogs are run over by texi drivers, but that does not mean that it is the taxi driver's job to run over dogs.

      But I see your point, may atrocoties have been commited by soldiers. I don't deny that. I should be more specific: in the army were I served and still perform reserve duty, it is a soldier's job to protect civilians. I have had many friends seriously injured and a few dead to protect the "other side"'s civilians. That's what we are there for.

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    106. Re:Whiny bastards by Xest · · Score: 1

      I have to agree and since 9/11 I've always thought the same regarding the second point.

      One thing that I realised after 9/11 is that 9/11 could well be the end of plane hijackings as we knew them for the most part. Passengers wont just sit by anymore whilst someone waves a knife or gun because they now know full well that there is a chance they could die through being flown into a building anyway.

      I'd say 9/11, whilst tragic, did more to prevent terrorist oriented plane hijackings (you may still get the odd nutjob try to hijack a plane because jesus told them to or whatever, but they're much more harmless) than any of the other measures implemented afterwards.

      Reinforced doors are of course of obvious benefit too.

      All of that said however, this doesn't mean planes are safe from being targetted - many terrorists would love to blow them up still, even if they'd struggle to hijack them and I think this is where airport security measures are focussed, on stopping bombs rather than hijackings.

    107. Re:Whiny bastards by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

      "If a T-shirt had a rude word or a bomb on it, for example, a passenger may be asked to remove it," [a BAA spokesman] said.

      I'd hate to be on an airplane with an old Mac laptop when the hardware experiences an unimplemented trap.

      There should be a difference between a T-shirt with a bomb on it and a T-shirt with a picture of a bomb on it.

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    108. Re:Whiny bastards by lgw · · Score: 1

      Informed decisions? Mistaking a bean-bag toy for a bomb with no credible threat is an informed decision? What rubbish!

      Reacting like this to a bean bag toy makes perfect sense if you have accompanying human intelligence: a phoned-in bomb threat, a credible warning from an insode man, etc. Clearly, human intelligence was absent here!

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    109. Re:Whiny bastards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You will do anything to fit in, won't you. Like that time at band camp when you met those football guys.

  2. I suppose they found it by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 1

    next to the den of a rabbit with big scary teeth?

    1. Re:I suppose they found it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Redundant

      next to the den of a rabbit with big scary teeth?

      That's nasty, sharp, pointy teeth, you insensitive clod!

    2. Re:I suppose they found it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It can leap about... *pauses for a sec*
      LOOK AT THE BONES!

    3. Re:I suppose they found it by QRDeNameland · · Score: 1

      The ultimate comeuppence would have been if, after disposing of the dangerous prop, they *were* attacked by a killer bunny.

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    4. Re:I suppose they found it by narcberry · · Score: 1

      Most of us could enjoy Monty Python if they weren't so over(mis)quoted.

      Sure they're funny, but you and you and you and you and you aren't.

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    5. Re:I suppose they found it by PachmanP · · Score: 1

      I considered using my troll moderation for your comment, but realized it's more of a (-1 Sacrilege) comment.

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  3. Run Away!! by Elitist_Phoenix · · Score: 5, Funny

    Run away!!

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  4. Wikipedia by thewils · · Score: 0

    I can't believe that Wikipedia already has the blurb about the bomb scare in London. Do they have _nothing_ else to do?

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    1. Re:Wikipedia by CannonballHead · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Some people post on slashdot, some people write on wikipedia. ;)

    2. Re:Wikipedia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't worry, it'll get deleted shortly I'm sure.

    3. Re:Wikipedia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some people post on slashdot, some people write on wikipedia. [citation needed]

      There fixed that for you

    4. Re:Wikipedia by Raffaello · · Score: 1

      Same people post on slashdot, same people write on wikipedia. [citation needed]

      there fixed that fix for you

  5. This just in... by Quantos · · Score: 2, Funny

    I have an albatross for sale...

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    1. Re:This just in... by imroy · · Score: 2, Funny

      What flavour is it?

    2. Re:This just in... by Quantos · · Score: 2, Funny

      What do ya mean what flavor...
      It's a bloody albatross.

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    3. Re:This just in... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What do you mean what flavour? its an albatross

    4. Re:This just in... by Atrox666 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Does it come with wafers?

    5. Re:This just in... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > It's a bloody albatross.

      Why didn't you say that in the first place? A bloody albatross is the best kind!

  6. Worms by jack2000 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I liked how Worms had the holy hand grenade with the "hallelujah" chanting right before it explodes.

    1. Re:Worms by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      That damned thing was my all time favorite, next to the concrete donkey.

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  7. In a show of global unity in security theater by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Britain will be calling in help from Boston's bomb technicians to confirm the grenade is disarmed.

    1. Re:In a show of global unity in security theater by MrEricSir · · Score: 1

      We forgot all about your needs, we were too busy fulfilling our own.

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  8. London: So Boston finally has someone to laugh at. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Congraultions, UK, you just made Boston's cops look like a paragon of sanity!

  9. And ... by krou · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... the Lord did grin.

    Of course no-one was in danger. No-one took out the Holy Pin.

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    1. Re:And ... by Goalie_Ca · · Score: 1

      And count to three. Four is no good and neither is two unless you proceed directly to three after and five is right out of the question.

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  10. the animator... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    sadly they missed the animator at the end of the bar who died from a heart attack

  11. wonder what they'll do when they a bunny by darthcamaro · · Score: 1

    wonder what they'll do when they a bunny

    1. Re:wonder what they'll do when they a bunny by rts008 · · Score: 2, Funny

      When they a bunny?!?!?!?

      That makes no sense whatsoever.
      What are you babbling about?

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    2. Re:wonder what they'll do when they a bunny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps OP accidentally a Coca-Cola bottle?

    3. Re:wonder what they'll do when they a bunny by Arthur+Grumbine · · Score: 4, Funny

      when they accidentally a whole bunny?! Who knows!?

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    4. Re:wonder what they'll do when they a bunny by PachmanP · · Score: 1

      Dude, it's a choose your own adventure story! They could see a bunny, or they could eat, or they could @#$% a bunny if they're into that sort of thing. It's the beauty of _ your own adventure!

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  12. bullshit on this one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    i call BULLSHIT on this story because nobody would mistake that for a real hand grenade i think the truth is more likely that they found a real grenade but dont want nobody to get afraid

  13. Re:wonder what they'll do when they see a bunny by darthcamaro · · Score: 1

    when they see a bunny dude -- typos suck. Go get yourself a shrubbery.

  14. yes, but just try boarding an airplane with one by davidwr · · Score: 1

    You would get more than a spanking and might wind up looking like the Black Knight.

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  15. Jack Handy by nfk · · Score: 1, Redundant

    "If you're in a war, instead of throwing a hand grenade at the enemy, throw one of those small pumpkins. Maybe it'll make everyone think how stupid war is, and while they are thinking, you can throw a real grenade at them."

  16. To "Anonymous Coward" by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 1

    I stand corrected. "...nasty, sharp, pointy teeth." it is.

  17. But it's a HOLY handgrenade. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 1

    Britain will be calling in help from Boston's bomb technicians to confirm the grenade is disarmed.

    But it's a HOLY hand grenade. That implies the explosion may be miraculous. Which means normal tests for whether it's armed and normal disarmament techniques may not work.

    You need a priest to handle this. (If it were an UNholy hand grenade you'd need an exorcist.)

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  18. Good thing they didn't notice the Chambord by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's a good thing the bartender didn't bring out the Chambord Liqueur.

    They'd have decided he had an arsenal and he'd still be closed.

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    1. Re:Good thing they didn't notice the Chambord by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      [quote]It's a good thing the bartender didn't bring out the Chambord Liqueur.

      They'd have decided he had an arsenal and he'd still be closed.[/quote]
      No, had it been a bottle of liquor, at least one of the water company workers would have manfully sacrificed themselves by drinking it to spare their mates from the horrible threat that it posed.

  19. Re:wonder what they'll do when they see a bunny by rts008 · · Score: 1

    Okay, now I see.

    In response: Ni!

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  20. Re:wonder what they'll do when they see a bunny by Michael+O-P · · Score: 1
    That should read:

    "Okay, now I."

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  21. And my plan is ruined by compro01 · · Score: 1

    So much for my plan to make a real bomb in one of those toys...

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    1. Re:And my plan is ruined by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So much for my plan to make a real bomb in one of those toys...

      No, no. Actually your plan is going perfectly.

      Just leave a few more around in inconspicuous places and after they've found four or five more fakes, you can leave a real one.

  22. Re:when they a bunny by mgabrys_sf · · Score: 1

    Then they'll know how is babby fucking formed. Typo - usually means I typed one letter out of place - like kat. Leaving out entire bits of a complete sentence? GOPriceless.

  23. Re:wonder what they'll do when they see a bunny by stuckinoregon · · Score: 1

    Okay, now I see.

    In response: Ni!

    Now we see the violence that's inherent in the system!!!

  24. Killer bunny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > The ultimate comeuppence would have been if, after disposing of the dangerous prop, they *were* attacked by a killer bunny.

    Jimmy Carter should carry a Holy Hand Grenade with him at all times.

    1. Re:Killer bunny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > The ultimate comeuppence would have been if, after disposing of the dangerous prop, they *were* attacked by a killer bunny.

      Jimmy Carter should carry a Holy Hand Grenade with him at all times.

      Might as well give it to a Thalidomide baby instead of that useless doofus.

      Guess who put Robert Mugabe into office - Dimwit Carter.

  25. Re:London: So Boston finally has someone to laugh by 91degrees · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No they didn't.

    They were playing slightly safer than they needed to. After confirming that everything was safe they laughed about it and didn't slam anyone with a trumped up charge to justify their hysteria.

    Hell, it took them an hour and everything was back to normal.

  26. Re:wonder what they'll do when they see a bunny by rts008 · · Score: 1

    But it's only a fleshwound!

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  27. We live in fear.... by VinylRecords · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This past September they had to evacuate a Philadelphia Phillies game at Citizens Bank Park because someone confused a fucking hot dog wrapper for a bomb.

    Our government, schools, media, and society as a whole train us to be paranoid and live in fear, to dumb us down. Not to sound like a conspiracy nut but this is the world that we occupy.
    http://cbs3.com/topstories/Philadelphia.Phillies.Citizens.2.824722.html
    http://www.nj.com/phillies/index.ssf/2008/09/hot_dogs_create_bomb_scare_at.html
    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Hot-dogs-cause-a-delicious-bomb-scare-before-Phi?urn=mlb,110486

    1. Re:We live in fear.... by Dachannien · · Score: 1

      This past September they had to evacuate a Philadelphia Phillies game at Citizens Bank Park because someone confused a fucking hot dog wrapper for a bomb.

      And this, my friends, is why they should cut you off after six beers at baseball games.

    2. Re:We live in fear.... by Culture20 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      someone confused a fucking hot dog wrapper for a bomb.

      Why would someone do that with a hot dog wrapper? Did he not read the instructions correctly? Wrong wiener!

    3. Re:We live in fear.... by penguinchris · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I agree it's stupid, but it's not as bad as you made it out to be. They were not confused by a hot dog wrapper - the hot dogs were apparently wrapped in white packaging and taped up with duct tape, according to your second link. I certainly wouldn't have assumed it was bombs, as someone apparently did, but I wouldn't have thought it was just a bunch of hot dogs either.

      Your choice of wording leads one to think that you're saying there was a hot dog wrapper, as in the thing that is wrapped around the hot dog when you buy it at the stadium. I'm sure you did this intentionally to make it seem more ridiculous, and normally that's fine - but you've kind of crossed into being dishonest about it.

      On an off-topic side note, the third link you give - geez - so many puns and jokes in there I almost gagged. I really don't like how every news outlet competes for the most bad puns and jokes in their headlines and in the articles. Local papers are the worst, taking AP stories and "adding value" by writing a "funny" headline. I wouldn't think that is something that greatly helped the decline of newspapers, but it sure hasn't hurt it.

    4. Re:We live in fear.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "train us to be paranoid...to dumb us down"

      Exactly, a wolf in sheep's clothes is a government that restrict freedoms while screaming about terrorism.

    5. Re:We live in fear.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We're not afraid. We're just stupid.

  28. Re:wonder what they'll do when they see a bunny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Help! Help! I'm being repressed!

  29. RUN! by yanguang · · Score: 1

    The presence of an unused Holy Hand Grenade only means one thing. The Killer Rabbits have developed immunity. God have mercy on all our souls.

    1. Re:RUN! by Cassini2 · · Score: 1

      Easter is less than one month away! There will be thousands of fake bunnies! with millions of fake eggs! Who will protect the citizens from the fake eggs?

      How will we find the killer rabbit? What will the police do?

  30. I've got one, it's very nice! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&um=1&q=chambord+blackberry+liquor&btnG=Search+Images

    Goes great on ice. :)

  31. It couldnt have been a bomb by Ralph+Spoilsport · · Score: 2, Funny
    It had no RED blinky numbers on it counting down the seconds.

    We all know that Red Blinky numbers are the favourite of terrorists the world over.

    RS

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    1. Re:It couldnt have been a bomb by ProfessionalCookie · · Score: 1

      YMMV.

    2. Re:It couldnt have been a bomb by Ralph+Spoilsport · · Score: 1

      your member ID is freakin' me out, dude....

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  32. Re: Psychopaths by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow, if you think he's a psychopath, it's you who really needs to see a psychiatrist, since psychopathy is a brain disorder and psychiatry can't help them.

    Seriously.

  33. Definition of Irony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What a bunch of whiny little bitches. I bet they'd have been whining pretty loudly if the cops were faster but didn't a thorough job of it.

    ... sort of like the author of the PP.

    I bet they'd have been whining pretty loudly if the cops were faster but didn't do a thorough job of it.

    There, fixed that for you.

  34. Well, the pub was certainly not expecting . . . by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

    . . . the Spanish Inquisition!

    "Our two main weapons are fear surprise, and the Holy Hand Grenade . . . oh, wait . . ."

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  35. Re:wonder what they'll do when they see a bunny by X0563511 · · Score: 1

    But he says he's not dead!

    The only thing more hilarious than a Python quote, is a string of Python quotes placed together seemingly at random.

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  36. Never ending Theme/Meme on /. by rts008 · · Score: 1

    But.....I got better!

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  37. Security theatre by Mad-Bassist · · Score: 1

    I've seen where this is leading:

    "We detected a large amount of liquid on your person."

    "Yeah, I drank a liter of Mountain Dew before I had to wait in this long line."

    "Could you come with us, please?"

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  38. All I know is... by Mad-Bassist · · Score: 1

    I want one now. My penchant for silliness will not be denied!

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  39. Bomb Threat at Bomb Drill by Rob+Carr · · Score: 1

    Actually, the HHG0A was ideal. Sucker the bomb squad in, make them think it's a false alarm and then kill them as they stand around the HHGOA laughing.

    Years ago, there was a mass casualty drill at PNC Park in Pittsburgh. Near the end of the drill, someone put a large bag in the decon area. I don't know if this was something the Feds did as part of the drill or if someone just left a bag in the wrong place.

    Someone attempted to declare an emergency and cordon off the area. By that point, most people were exhausted and sick of the drill--and they simply ignored the cordon. The drill fell apart at that point. They "knew" it wasn't a bomb.

    I was cold, soaked from d-con and only wearing a pair of swim trunks when I walked past the suspicious bag. I remember thinking that if someone had wanted to kill a whole lot of EMS, police and fire (even most of the victims were off-duty public safety), a bomb in that bag would have done it. And at that point, I didn't care.

    That's exactly the sort of stuff that gets you hurt or killed.

    I'm in a new line of work now.

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  40. Philadelphia Phillies Bomb Scare by Burnova · · Score: 1

    Last summer, I worked at Citizen's Bank Park, home of the Philadelphia Phillies. At some point either late in the season or early in the playoffs, the entire facility was evacuated, fans, employees, everything, due to a suspicious package found outside main warehouse gates. Two hours later, after a horrible evacuation drill and horrible management of the situation, we were allowed back inside. The Culprit? A hot-dog carrier the concession vendors use had been left outside on the ground by the employee entrance to the warehouse.

  41. how you know its not a bomb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think is pretty damned self-centred of the bar keeper that he thought his bar was on par with strategic bomb targets a terrorist might have. Weeks spent secretly preparing a cleverly disquised powerful explosive in order to blow up a bar in the middle of nowhere... Riiiiight.

  42. Re:Whinnie pooh bastards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A friend of mine recently bought a boxful of these Monty Python souvenir props, and plans to ...uhh, "distribute" them in bars, libraries and schools all over the city. News at 11 tomorrow.

  43. Re:Whooshy bastards by Higgs_Bozon · · Score: 1

    Woosh

    No... Whoosh
    there- corrected it for ya (and for the TP)

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  44. Take a look at the medal of honor roll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Of the people who have won the medal of honor in the last ten years, most of them got them for throwing themselves on grenades. Close combat is still very real.

  45. wootness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I want one...