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How Do You Deal With Pirated Programs At Work?

LoneAdminOK writes "I started working for a small company in the middle of January as their IT Manager. I am the first actual 'IT Guy' that they have had; before me it was someone that performed another job within the company and just handled the IT on the side. The problem that I am running into is that most of the software I am finding on the network and on people's computers isn't owned by the company. The person before me would just get it from 'somewhere' and install it on the computers as needed. This is putting me in a bad position when I have to reinstall the program or find it to install on someone else's computer. Often, I am telling people that we don't have it or we have to buy another license, and they get mad at me because the other guy said that we had it. I can't even tell where the versions of Windows Server that they are running came from. The only one I know is legit is the one that is installed on an HP server with the OEM sticker on it. How have any of you handled a situation like this? I don't install 'borrowed programs' in a production environment because I know that if the BSA got wind of this, it would all fall on me when they stormed in."

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  1. ZOMG by XanC · · Score: 3, Funny

    Replace it all with OSS.

  2. Yarr... by nacturation · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'd just keep me head down and swab the deck, me hearty!

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  3. Re:Your choice by KyleTheDarkOne · · Score: 5, Funny

    ZOMG, replace it all with OSS.

  4. We will audit it for you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Don't worry, just post your company's name and address and we will perform a free audit on all your software for you.

    Signed,
    BSA Auditors

    1. Re:We will audit it for you by mlts · · Score: 5, Funny

      This reminds me of an occurance on a mailing list. Someone asked if they should report their employer for pirating a certain fairly expensive program, posting from their work E-mail.

      Reply from someone who worked at the company, "You just did."

  5. Don't be a pussy by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Everyone is doing it. What are you afraid of?

    Don't be a baby! Go on, do it!

    1. Re:Don't be a pussy by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Flamebait? Oh come on, that's a Funny for sure.

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    2. Re:Don't be a pussy by FSWKU · · Score: 2, Funny

      Come on, McFly! What are you, chicken????

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    3. Re:Don't be a pussy by geobeck · · Score: 5, Funny

      Better yet:

      "What's the matter, Colonel Sanders? Chicken?"

      More geek appeal. :P

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  6. Nuke... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Nuke the site from orbit. It is the only way to be sure.

  7. Where are you located? by El_Muerte_TDS · · Score: 5, Funny

    For what company do you work?
    I'm sure we can figure something out.

    Your friend,
    BSA

  8. Turn them in. by Shadow+Wrought · · Score: 5, Funny

    Collect the reward.

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    1. Re:Turn them in. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      As somebody who has worked in IT, I can honestly say that a career change isn't such a bad thing.

  9. That's not your fault by rob1980 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Often, I am telling people that we don't have it or we have to buy another license, and they get mad at me because the other guy said that we had it.

    That's not your fault, tell them to be mad at the other guy. As far as you're concerned, either the company can cough up the money for non-pirated copies of software, or you can ZOMG, replace it all with OSS.

    1. Re:That's not your fault by MadKeithV · · Score: 5, Funny

      I was the other guy, and we *did* have licenses. I just took them all with me when I left.

  10. How we deal with pirated programs? by kdawson+(3715) · · Score: 5, Funny

    Easy! Keygens.

    1. Re:How we deal with pirated programs? by MikeFM · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's why I run the keygens on somebody else's computer.

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  11. Oh yeah? by qoncept · · Score: 5, Funny

    I know that if the BSA got wind of this, it would all fall on me when they stormed in.

    And those Boy Scouts are rotten little bastards.

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  12. Re:It doesn't have to be production to be piracy.. by Kirth · · Score: 3, Funny

    Non-production piracy is still piracy.

    Yes, and you still be hanged for it. Yarr!

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  13. Re:CYA = cover your ass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    tks. Thought it meant Caramel Yak Association and I was getting all confuzed.

  14. Re:What the hell? by SQLGuru · · Score: 5, Funny

    So, do you know where I can "borrow" this automatic auditing software of which you speak???

  15. Re:CYA = cover your ass by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 4, Funny

    Caramel Yak Association

    Splitters!

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  16. Re:Early retirement by pak9rabid · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hooray for blackmail!

    I prefer extortion. The X makes it sound cool.

  17. Re:Replace with Open Source by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Jeff Bezos once said to me 'you can't take something away from someone without giving something back of equivalent value without them being pissed off'.

    So Jeff is the Full Metal Alchemist? I've always had my suspicions..

  18. Standard Corporate Practices by girlintraining · · Score: 5, Funny

    There are several solutions, and which one is adopted depends a lot more on corporate culture than technical merit.

    In large businesses (10,000+ employees), I see two common approaches. The first is lock-down.

    Lock down.
    * Centralize everything and lock down the workstations. All software comes from one department, is distributed by SMS or Altiris, and (sometimes) workstations are monitored for compliance. Businesses like this often go with Dell for their hardware provider and have only about 5 or so workstation configurations in active use. Patches and install requests can take months to fulfill, and if the software isn't on their list, chances are good that you'll never see it. These businesses have security weaknesses in their network due to this centralization -- typically using flat topology models with very little or no firewalling between various business units. USB ports are typically fiddled with so flash drives cannot be used. For some reason, DVD/CD drives always do though. Go figure. Everything is vanilla-flavored, stock, and the same. If you find a weakness on one workstation, chances are good they all have it. Standardization is great! The servers are backed up. The workstations, where all the real data is, is ignored.

    Multiple IT departments
    * You'll see this with businesses that absorb other businesses -- financial companies in particular. Each business unit has its own IT, distribution schema, and enforcement of IT policies vary wildly. You won't be able to change your desktop wallpaper, but regedit still works with full admin rights. Firewalling between various business units is more common, but the policies are often out-of-date, and multiple routes exist. VPNs are commonly stacked over them, and if you know where to look, you can usually find a way through. The upshot is that the hardware is much more diverse, users are sometimes "left to their own devices" (literally and figuratively), and homebrew software solutions are more common. Nobody really knows what Server X does, but it has a sticker on it saying "Do not touch, Very Important." Often, hardware inventory and diagnostics in such environments consists of unplugging it and waiting to see who complains. If nobody complains, pack it up and ship it to Corporate. Nobody really knows what the company owns, but by god, we've got a lot of it. The good news is, if you can find your IT guys, they'll usually have your software loaded in a few hours. They won't care as much about software licensing either (I just gotta make my 8 hours, man)... Contractors typically run the show, and they have no idea what they're doing (because nobody wants to tell them anything). Servers are backed up, sometimes workstations are too. Sometimes. Maybe.

    Mid-size businesses (less than 100,000 employees)
    Sometimes you'll see centralization, but more often it's the scenario above, but with only one IT department. The network topology is generally laid out better though, hardware is more consistent, and the helpdesk is actually (le gasp) helpful, typically being a stone's throw away from the admins who maintain the servers. This is a good deal for you users -- they're too busy to be making many software policies and auditing, but not too monolithic that they're inaccessible. Your USB flash drive will work, even though you're told not to. Hello iTunes! Don't download pr0n though... For some reason, medium-sized corporate IT departments know everything you do on the internet, even though they don't know where the database server is. There is one rack of equipment... somewhere... and if it dies the entire business will collapse. But nobody knows. The servers are sometimes backed up, and so are the workstations. We're not sure... What's a "backup policy"? Can I use MMC to set one up?

    Small business (less than 10,000 employees)
    There is one guy or a small team and they are zyzzy GOD on the network. They don't care what you are running on your workstation... There's a pile of install CDs at his desk. Help yourself. Talk to the pimply-face

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  19. Re:BSA by RockMFR · · Score: 3, Funny

    You shouldn't even let the Boy Scouts of America into the building. Only let girl scouts in, and that's only if they bring Samoas.

  20. Re:ask some questions by sribe · · Score: 2, Funny

    Make it look like you are a contentious employee...

    Somebody needs to check a dictionary...

  21. Re:Tell the truth, plainly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    um... belarc isn't free for business use... only home... so you want to get legal with business things by using software illegally?

  22. BitTorrent by lymond01 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I download all my software from BitTorrent. Why pay for something you can get for free? It doesn't hurt anyone...it's not like the programmers are making the bulk of the money off the software sales...Microsoft is a billion dollar company but do you think they pay their programmers even millions of dollars a year? Pssht.

    The day programmers start making even 50% of the profit from their labors is the day I start buying software.

    Software? Oh, I meant music. :-)

    Disclaimer: Outside of the Slashdot Virtual Reaility, I do purchase CDs, AACs, MP3s. I use licensed MS software at work and home and even buy video games now and then. I do NOT, however, pay for bottled water at the movie theater. Preposterous!

  23. Re:Your choice by spun · · Score: 5, Funny

    Apparently, the economic poo we are wading through has a lot of businesses (esp smaller ones) considering FOSS.

    Open Source! It's the Pointy Stick that will remove the Economic Poo from your Software Licensing Shoes!

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  24. Re:CYA = cover your ass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    CYA = cover your ass

    in case some of our international readers missed it ;)

    The international readers would like to point out that we will not miss your bare arses.
    Had you been french or italian ladies, things would have been different.

    Kind regards,
    The International Readers

  25. Re:Your choice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    It doesn't have the same hook as "ruler of nations" or "conqueror of worlds", but I do have to admit, it has its charm.

  26. How? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    > How Do You Deal With Pirated Programs At Work?

    Well, I usually use BitTorrent or eMule myself.

  27. OTOH.... by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...have you considered a career change into piracy?

    You could set the place up with even nicer warez than they've already stolen. Everyone would think you're da bomb.

    Just be careful everyone knows what not to mention when writing your LinkedIn recommendations.

  28. Re:devil's advocate by SteveFoerster · · Score: 5, Funny

    -1, Evil.

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  29. Re:Tell the truth, plainly by onecheapgeek · · Score: 3, Funny

    Forgive him. From his username, I assume he has an MBA. It isn't his fault.

  30. Re:devil's advocate by berend+botje · · Score: 5, Funny

    +1, Evil.

  31. Re:Tell the truth, plainly by the_womble · · Score: 2, Funny

    and no executive is going to wantonly commit federal fraud.

    Wow. Thats a naive, and highly innacurate opinion.

    I would say it is accurate. However, many executives carefully and deliberately commit fraud.

  32. Re:Your choice by DrSkwid · · Score: 4, Funny

    whole hog *AND* vegan

    I'd like to sign up for _your_ newsletter!

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  33. Re:Your choice by Arslan+ibn+Da'ud · · Score: 5, Funny

    $1,500/mo slips in to the noise; $50K makes itself seen.

    Here we have Mr. RollingThunder from The Burrows. He is proposing a $50,000 price tag to bring every single system in to compliance. Mr. RollingThunder, would you stand up, please?

    <bang>

    This demonstrates the value of not being seen

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  34. Re:devil's advocate by commodore64_love · · Score: 1, Funny

    >>>I think BSA gives bounties to whistleblowers, and the size varies on how much stolen software they discover... it could run to years worth of salary.

    Hello. My name is Barak Obama and I think I could use you on my team.

    -----or-----

    Hello, I represent AIG. We think we could use you in our company.

    -----or-----

    Hello, I represent RIAA. BSA told us about your report regarding illegal software, and also learned your employees had downloaded music on their machines. Rather than thank you, we have decided to sue you. Pay us $5000 or else we go to court.

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  35. Re:Your choice by mr_mischief · · Score: 2, Funny

    What? Vegans always leave the animal whole.

  36. Re:Your choice by lewko · · Score: 2, Funny

    Why quote the

    That's why.

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