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Canadian Songwriters' Collective Licensing Bid Goes Voluntary
Last year, the Songwriters Association of Canada (SAC) proposed a plan to legalize the file sharing of copyrighted songs, which involved a small monthly fee to people using an internet connection. Critics of the plan complained that it amounted to another tax, and the Canadian recording industry said it violated copyright law. Now, as an anonymous reader writes,
"The SAC has renewed its bid to legalize peer-to-peer file sharing in return for a levy on Internet service. The SAC is now calling for the plan to be voluntary, with both consumers and creators having the right to opt-out. ACTRA, the leading performer group in Canada, now says it is also supportive of a legalized approach with the prospect of extending the plan to video sharing."
It's really the only way to have some kind of paid file sharing and still preserve individual "ownership" of copyright (as opposed to corporate "ownership"). If I were a Canadian musician, I'd be glad to be offered a chance to opt-out of this system (though I would probably not actually opt-out).
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"The SAC has renewed its bid to legalize peer-to-peer file sharing "
Isn't it already/still legal in Canada?
Set your phasers on "funky"!
Did those other taxes that were proposed go through? I remember reading on Slashdot about a tax in Canada that would be added to blank media and MP3 players which went into the pockets of the music industry up there.
If it did and this goes in place as well, they surely would be making more money off of taxes than from actual music sales!
...I'll vote for the party that supports this (Probably NDP/NPD).
This is my opinion. Everyone has a right to my opinion.
Seriously, Canada's stupid protectionist media laws have given us the fantastic sounds of Nickelback, Avril Levigne, and Alanis Morrisette. For even Neil Young there's a dozen no talent hacks being propped up by these laws-the audio equivalent of corn subsidies. And now they're going to give them even more money? Ridiculous! The US has done a lot of stupid things, but can you imagine if we were giving tax money to Billy Ray Cyrus and Li'l Wayne? Free money from the government! All you have to do is make a shitty record!
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I'd bet that any artist that opts out will get downloaded more often than they would have otherwise.
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Now that's sharing I can get behind! Pun intended.
Now we see the violence inherent in the system.
You make one mistake, in my estimation:
"...only heavy utilizers are going to opt-in (or rather, not opt-out)."
This is where they'll make their money: If they implement the fee, 90% of users won't notice it or bother to opt-out. It's going to be a voluntary overpayment, with the money going to the middlemen as usual. (Will the artists get a cent of this? No, of course not! Why would THEY be the ones to profit from their music?)
Yeah, it's stupid. Stupid, immoral, and corrupt--like the music industry everywhere.
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Wouldn't this scheme be illegal as Negative option billing?
You're doing it wrong : you are applying a moral and rational reasoning to business.
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No artist gets paid.
I wish somebody could get a video of Avril Lavigne's answer to: "Did you get your cheque for your portion of the Blank CD levy?"
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I would gladly opt-in for such a plan. Although, I would prefer that it also carried the right to share media created by artists in other countries. Of course, I would only share media with others who have also opted in for such a plan. There is far too much complexity associated with governments and other organizations spying on their citizens, repeatedly coming up with ineffective DRM techniques, etc. For a small monthly fee, I have no problems whatsoever paying for the right to have un-complicated rights to enjoy my favourite media and share it with friends.
Taxing everyone that owns an Internet connection
is like:
Instead of spending money policing ATM fraud,
let us rather LEGALIZE ATM fraud.
Then tax everyone that has a bank account
so as to offset the economic costs of the
fraud.
If I liked the product provided by big media, this kind of tribute might be okay. But it sucks.
This is the age of computer databases. People can 'opt in' to fee-based content provision just as easily as they can opt out.
This is another attempt by big media to turn the internet into another cable network dominated by them.
Um I'm just dandy with the currently levy. I pay a tax to some has been Canadian music star when I back up my files or try out distros . Since they take my money, I take their music for free.
by TheSpoom (715771) Uncaring Linux user here. I have nothing to add to this but please continue. *munches popcorn*
First, downloading music is legal in Canada. Consumers pay a levy on CDR media to offset the "losses" from downloading; heck they tried to impose this on MP3 players as well. I think the lobbying groups would probably sacrifice that levy, to get a bigger piece of a larger pie.
Second, it should be opt-IN. As another poster noted, this would be reverse billing, and not legal in Canada.
Personally; I'm fine with the way it is. I download all the music I want and I stopped buying blank CDs years ago.
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I do not unlawfully download copyrighted content so why must I pay the tax. I already have to pay a tax on my CD's that I use for backups of my own personal stuff.
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What about artists that are not members of the SAC? What about movies, games, software and other works?
Obviously, they cannot be covered by this agreement. Thus, most file-sharing will remain illegal in Canada.
Here are the problems with a tax on internet to support copyright (which is what this amounts to):
(1) Most of the money comes from people who are not filesharing. So the many are punished for the deeds of the few. This is a bankrupt philosophy.
(2) You know very well that little if any of the money will go to the artists. So what's the point?
(3) It does absolutely nothing to solve the "problem".
The money comes from the wrong place, it will go to the wrong place, and it solves nothing. So what is this for?
I was under the impression that Canadians already pay a tax for their file sharing when they buy blank cd's? If they are already paying the tax on blank media why should they pay another tax at all?
This does sound better but they need to drop the media tax first and change this to opt-in. They also shouldn't limit it to music or videos but all digital media.
Can't everyone just ignore filesharing. Don't they have better things to do like protect the children or something. If making music, tv, movies, books, photso or any other content no longer become profitable then people will just stop creating it. The world will go on, we'll find other way to amuse ourselves and filesharing will cease on it own. If there still money to be made then perhaps less or better content will be produced or new business models will emerge. Why pay $5 a month when I can get everything I want for free right now?
From one of TFAs:
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Why the monetization of music file sharing is good for me if I am an Internet Service Provider:
Monetization will dramatically lower ISP bandwidth costs. Once file sharing is an authorized activity, ISPs can establish their own proprietary servers to service the bulk of file sharing activities. Since users would access the most shared songs on this "internal" system, it would lead to a dramatic reduction in the need for bandwidth to the world wide web, and a considerable cost saving to providers.
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Yes, I can just see Rogers doing this in a responsible and fair manner. ~
Also, correct me if I'm wrong but it sounds like "sharing" is being dragged back into the 90's in this scenario - all the advancements of p2p out the window as we all connect to the approved legal internal download server to get our "most shared" music.
Download copyrighted stuff,
...and still get sued for copyright infringement by some artist that DID opt out of the scheme.
I bet it won't be like that levy Canada and many other countries charge on blank media - the levy that allows you to put any copyrighted materials you like on said media without the risk of being sued for copyright infringement, right? Oh, wait... someone knocking at the door... brb.
Paying a flat tax on digital music and video would be much more convenient than what we have where I live, as long as it's not ridiculously high. And opt-out is definitely fine with me: they're actually liberating me from the paperwork necessary to opt-in! Again, this may only seem attractive to me and my compatriots, whose lives are often made miserable by monstrous bureaucracy and unavailability of legal online services most of the Western countries are used to.
So it'll be just like living in New Zealand then?
For a site about things like basic rights, Slashdot users sure do like to censor "dissent".
... so what was it? I haven't found anything obvious in Google.