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Ubuntu 9.04 Jaunty Jackalope Now In Beta

An anonymous reader writes "To little fanfare and not much news coverage, Canonical released the beta of Ubuntu 9.04 'Jaunty Jackalope.' I tried it on a Dell Mini 9 using the Ubuntu Netbook Remix (UNR) and it's fabulous! Much better than the sad 'Dell Desktop' that it shipped with. Finally, someone has broken the 25+ year old too-many-open-windows-and-chaos desktop paradigm with UNR's task oriented layout, which is perfect for small netbook screen sizes."

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  1. It's a beta.. by 3.5+stripes · · Score: 3, Informative

    That's why there's not much fanfare.

    It's for people willing to experience a few issues, or a few bugs, to make the product which comes out with lots of fanfare more solid.

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    1. Re:It's a beta.. by jdgeorge · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I don't see any reason to make a huge deal about any "new" Linux release.

      Well, two things:
      1. Yeah, that's the kind of news only Nerds would care about! Can't they find an appropriate forum for that?
      2. This is not about a new "Linux" release. It's about a new Ubuntu beta. By contrast, This is a story about a new Linux release.

    2. Re:It's a beta.. by Matt+Perry · · Score: 2, Funny

      This is not about a new "Linux" release. It's about a new Ubuntu beta. By contrast, This is a story about a new Linux release.

      Alright, Stallman. We get it already.

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  2. Let me be the first to ask.... by ControversialMatt · · Score: 5, Funny

    What the heck is a Jackalope?

    1. Re:Let me be the first to ask.... by Spazztastic · · Score: 4, Funny

      What the heck is a Jackalope?

      A mix between a Jackolantern and an Antelope.

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    2. Re:Let me be the first to ask.... by Dunbal · · Score: 4, Funny

      I dunno, but it's probably going to break my sound drivers... again (sigh).

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    3. Re:Let me be the first to ask.... by corsec67 · · Score: 2, Informative

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackalope

      "The jackalope -- also called an antelabbit, aunt benny, Wyoming thistled hare or stagbunny -- is a fictional animal and a cross between a jackrabbit and an antelope, goat, or deer, and is usually portrayed as a rabbit with antlers."

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    4. Re:Let me be the first to ask.... by mrdoogee · · Score: 5, Funny

      Wrong! It's a mix between Hugh Jackman and a Cantaloupe.

    5. Re:Let me be the first to ask.... by Tibor+the+Hun · · Score: 4, Funny

      Citty-frakkin'-slickers... Jackrabbit and an Antelope. We've got them all over western Nebraska...

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    6. Re:Let me be the first to ask.... by Em+Emalb · · Score: 4, Funny

      Wrong again!

      Its a mix between Jack Nicholson and....your mom.

      (Happy Friday folks)

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    7. Re:Let me be the first to ask.... by jo42 · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm still waiting for the "Gracious Goatse" release of Unbuntu.

    8. Re:Let me be the first to ask.... by rackserverdeals · · Score: 4, Funny

      Citty-frakkin'-slickers... Jackrabbit and an Antelope. We've got them all over western Nebraska...

      You Rube! It's a myth!

      There's no such thing as western Nebraska.

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    9. Re:Let me be the first to ask.... by Matt+Perry · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm still waiting for the "Gracious Goatse" release of Unbuntu.

      There were plans for that version but the release slipped through the crack.

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    10. Re:Let me be the first to ask.... by drop+table+user · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm still waiting for the "Gracious Goatse" release of Unbuntu.

      Rumor says it will ship as soon as "Horny Herring" is out the door.

    11. Re:Let me be the first to ask.... by Jerry · · Score: 2, Funny

      Actually, a JACK rabbit with antlers. Ordinary rabbits or bunnies are too small to grow antlers.

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  3. Netbook Remix Interface by CFBMoo1 · · Score: 3, Informative

    I've been running it on my two EEE's for a long time. That interface is the bees knees for those things. That was distributed on the UbuntuEEE fork that later turned in to EasyPeasy. I'm really interested in trying out 9.04 though.

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    1. Re:Netbook Remix Interface by chill · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Have you been bitten by the bug where netbook-launcher sits at 100% CPU utilization? I had to remove it because it was making my EEE unusable.

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    2. Re:Netbook Remix Interface by chill · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yeah, open a terminal and run "top" or use the System Monitor and check processes. Then kill netbook-launcher and watch your machine spring back to life.

      I've just uninstalled it for now and installed gnome-menu and am using a normal, but slim, desktop/menu and it works fine. If they fix the launcher, great. If not, so be it.

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  4. Screenshots by Thelasko · · Score: 3, Informative

    Here are some screenshots for Alpha 6, but does anybody have screenshots of Beta?

    Not that they will be all that different.

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    1. Re:Screenshots by AvitarX · · Score: 3, Interesting
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  5. Re:So by Keith_Beef · · Score: 2, Informative

    You could look at http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/jaunty/beta to find out.

    Or wait until Saint George's Day.

    Note: This is a beta release. Do not install it on production machines. The final stable version will be released on April 23rd, 2009.

    K.

  6. A jackalope is... by spinochet · · Score: 5, Informative
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  7. Intel regressions not yet solved by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Users of Intel video chipsets have reported performance regressions in Ubuntu 8.10 compared with previous releases. (252094) Although these performance issues have not been resolved by default in Ubuntu 9.04, a new experimental acceleration architecture option, DRI2/UXA, is available for Intel graphics users. Our testing has found this provides significant performance improvements for many users, but has also shown risk of severe stability problems, thus we are not yet providing to the general public. You can opt-in to enable this by running "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf", and adding Option "AccelMethod" "UXA" to the Device section of your xorg.conf. Users wishing to maximize stability should stay with the standard default acceleration method, "EXA".

  8. Wrong color desktop? Re:Screenshots by Hadlock · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I thought they "fixed" the brown desktop theme? There are blue desktop screenshots but that's for KDE or some such.

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    1. Re:Wrong color desktop? Re:Screenshots by WebCowboy · · Score: 3, Informative

      I thought they "fixed" the brown desktop theme?

      These are screenshots of the Alpha version. From my past experience Alpha releases do not change the default theme from that of the previous release. When I set up an Intrepid Alpha system it just used Hardy's desktop. When it upgraded itself to Beta the theme changed to some sort of generic polkadot wallpaper with everything else kept the same. When it went into full release the theme changed to the real Intrepid one.

      Wait another month, and by then you'll certainly have your new colour scheme.

    2. Re:Wrong color desktop? Re:Screenshots by gbarules2999 · · Score: 2, Informative

      The default theme is still the same (I know; I'm looking at it) but it comes with some pretty nice alternatives in the Themes window.

    3. Re:Wrong color desktop? Re:Screenshots by migla · · Score: 5, Informative

      I thought they'd change the brown in 9.10, Karmic Koala. Shuttleworths announcement of KK: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2009-February/000536.html

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  9. What you should be asking... by WindBourne · · Score: 2, Insightful

    what happens if *ubuntu becomes profitable? Most likely means that at least one major monopoly has been broken, and a number of truly competitive markets have been created.

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    1. Re:What you should be asking... by Xtifr · · Score: 2, Interesting

      what happens if *ubuntu becomes profitable?

      For a normal company, it would mean that it would become easier to pay their employees. For Ubuntu, it would mean that Mark Shuttleworth will have to find some other sink for his billions. :)

      Most likely means that at least one major monopoly has been broken

      Nope, doesn't mean that at all. There are already Linux companies making a profit. Making a profit simply means that you take in more money than you spend. It doesn't say anything about the size of your market share (although a large market share means you can take advantage of economies of scale, which can help make a profit). It is at least theoretically possible for a Linux company to make a profit with an installed base of only a few dozen. Which would hardly be a threat to anyone's monopoly. Now Ubuntu's business model means that they're going to have to have a much higher installed base than that before they are in any danger of making a profit, but they could still quite possibly make a profit without making a dent in any existing monopolies.

    2. Re:What you should be asking... by styrotech · · Score: 3, Funny

      He's talking about the RPM monopoly :)

    3. Re:What you should be asking... by Nevyn · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Or not. The quote says "we are creeping towards $30 million" and that this would make Canonical "self-sustaining", for regular updates, which is their current model of very little development and a lot of marketing.

      So, yeh, it's possible that "creeping towards" does actually mean "really close to, and getting closer every day" and not just "going from 1 to 2 million this year". But I bet against that, personally.

      And who is paying that $30 mil, is it desktop people ... or self supporting server users like the French govt. / Wikipedia. My guess is that any money is coming from the later.

      So at the end of the creep towards $30 mil, what do you get? Still not enough money to fund actual development (feel free to log bugs and RFEs at bugzilla.redhat.com), and a focus on servers instead of the desktop for what little work they do (because that's who is paying).

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  10. Webcam by Niris · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Now if only they'd get Pidgin or something to work with webcams for IMing. Still can't get it to work on aMSN or Mercury :/

    1. Re:Webcam by ianare · · Score: 4, Informative

      Pidgin will be replaced by Empathy in future releases. It's still needs some work, but looks promising - it's very modular and integrates nicely with the rest of GNOME. It has video chat support.

  11. Re:What kernel is in this release? by MarcoG42 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I upgraded from Intrepid to Jaunty during Alpha 6, which at the time was using 2.6.29. I upgraded this morning, and it appears they have reverted to 2.6.28. I'm not sure why.

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  12. Netbook remix? For Intel Atoms, it would seem by Bearhouse · · Score: 4, Informative

    Find out more here:

    http://www.canonical.com/projects/ubuntu/unr

    Selected quotes:

    "Ubuntu Netbook Remix is optimised to run on a new category of affordable Internet-centric devices called netbooks. It includes a new consumer-friendly interface that allows users to quickly and easily get on-line and use their favourite applications. This interface is optimised for a retail sales environment."

    Wonder what that last bit means? It flashes 'buy me now!!!! 50% discount!!!' on the screen?

    "A remix is a 'respun' version of Ubuntu built for a specific purpose. Although Canonical has encouraged community projects to use this terminology for some time, this is the first time that Canonical has used it. We are using it to differentiate from an 'Edition' which we consider a complete version with daily builds suitable for the average user with no additional work beyond installing the CD."

    "All of the initial Ubuntu Netbook remixes combine optimisations from the Moblin project for Intel® Atomâ processors and it is specially designed for netbooks. Intel and Canonical are working to create a new computing experience across a rapidly expanding category of portable devices."

    Wintel is dead, long live Buntel?

  13. Kubuntu with KDE 4.2.1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Kubuntu with KDE 4.2.1 looks fabulous too! Just installed Kubuntu Beta and KDE is totally sweet in this release. There is even a native KDE4 Network Manager that looks great and works well.

    The Plasma widgets remain a bit crashy and buggy - Comic Strip won't take the configure button off even after Strips are added, Moving widgets crashes Plasma etc.

    But yeah, getting there. By KDE 4.3 release things ought to be totally rocking.

    Try it out people - you won't be disappointed.

    1. Re:Kubuntu with KDE 4.2.1 by indi0144 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Sure I will try it this time. I tried Ubuntu 9.04 Alpha AMD64 the good thing it's that the new kernel supports all my hardware and it's a lot faster but I have problems with the nVidia 180 drivers on an integrated GeForce 8200. Not even editing the xorg by hand can get the stuff to display properly.

      Err, theres only DVD download option via torrent but since you can update to stable release from beta I think it's worth it.

      http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/jaunty/beta/dvd/

      I hope it works fine with unetbootin, installing from USB takes no more than 20 minutes including language updates :)

  14. Re:Random Ubuntu/Linux question by mweather · · Score: 3, Informative

    Ubuntu ships with an RDP client.

  15. Re:Random Ubuntu/Linux question by Xtifr · · Score: 4, Informative

    Anyone know of a remote desktop solution for Ubuntu that can connect to a Windows 2k or newer box?

    Yes. Ubuntu. RDP works out of the box--I use it nearly daily. Applications->Internet->Terminal Server Client. There's also an panel applet front end if you'd prefer that--very handy if you have several Winboxes you need to connect to on a regular basis.

  16. I've been using this for a month with ext4 by revjtanton · · Score: 3, Informative

    I installed this a month ago almost by painstakingly finding the i386 iso of Jaunty and installing the netbook remix stuff independently.

    I've got a eee 900 with the 16GB SSDHD and let me tell you: this thing boots and runs quick! I've tried XP and the UNR Ibex version and the Jaunty build using ext4 filing system blows everything else out of the water with all variations of start-up times. There are problems, however, with certain aspects of the remix.

    There is significant lag issues with the interface itself. I believe this may have something to do with the size of my swap partition, but thus far I've been too lazy to format or change anything since the partial upgrade a few days ago.

    Its only the remix that reacts slow, everything else is fast, fast, fast! ext4 certainly adds something to boot times and it looks like this Ubuntu build will really be one, coupled with netbooks, that can somewhat pierce the Microsoft stronghold on the general public....eh, probably not.

    1. Re:I've been using this for a month with ext4 by meringuoid · · Score: 2, Informative
      What can you possibly need swap for on a Netbook?

      I've been running my Eee 901 without swap ever since I installed Ubuntu over the godawful Asus distribution that came with it. I don't notice any performance issues; however, without swap, hibernate doesn't work. I understand it needs a swap partition large enough to dump its entire RAM state when it hibernates, so that it can switch off completely and pick up again where it left off; without that it can only suspend, which saves a lot of power but still has a small drain on the battery.

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  17. Re:Netbook remix? For Intel Atoms, it would seem by migla · · Score: 2, Informative

    "Ubuntu Netbook Remix is optimised to run on a new category of affordable Internet-centric devices called netbooks."

    Not so much optimised, that the installer would allow me to see any buttons (such as "next", "back", "cancel" or whatever they may be, I can't see them!) on the 800x480 screen of the eeepc 701...

    I managed to install it by pressing tab and enter blindly at appropriate times, though.

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  18. Re:So by Keith_Beef · · Score: 3, Informative

    Maybe this will be more use, then.

    https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-9.04-beta

    It wasn't really difficult for me to find it, starting from the page whose link I posted...

    about three click and twelve seconds, all told.

    And if that is still not good enough, then I suggest you go back to whatever you usually do when you don't get everything spoon-fed to you.

    K.

  19. Re:So by GMFTatsujin · · Score: 5, Funny

    Worst haiku ever.

  20. Re:Bluetooth networking w/ Windows Mobile??? by jd · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have problems with 8.10 on my somewhat ancient Dell Dimension 2100 - lots of problems with latency and task switching - and I've yet to get the kernel to build from source for it. (Given I've built Linux kernels since the 0.9 days, it's not from lack of experience.)

    (The latest Fedora won't install on it at all. Hard lock-up when booting the GUI installer.)

    Sure, you expect support to decay for older machines, but this is hardly a Viglen 386SX we're talking about (Pentium IV is still in-vogue), I've upgraded the RAM, hard drive, DVD drive, ethernet and sound card, so it's all well above what these distros expect as minimum hardware.

    I'm considering 9.04 not because I'm particularly in need of new features, but because I can't get the existing features to work with the way the distro is built. If 9.04 doesn't improve, I'm giving up on other people's distros and patches, and building the whole damn thing from the vanilla sources from scratch.

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  21. Finally??? by karbonKid · · Score: 4, Informative

    "Finally, someone has broken the 25+ year old too-many-open-windows-and-chaos desktop paradigm with UNR's task oriented layout."

    Umm... tiling window managers have been around longer than non-tiling ones. You can blame apple for making windows overlappable. The 'task-oriented layout' is nothing new or innovative - see wmii, awesome, xmonad, dwm, etc. etc. (even fluxbox, with its 'tabs', actually) for examples of modern X11 window managers that offer similar functionality, plus much more...

    Personally, I started using wmii a few months back and haven't looked back since.