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More IT Pros Could Turn To E-Crime In Poor Economy

snydeq writes to mention that a recent survey by KPMG shows that many people feel that out-of-work IT workers will be much more tempted to turn to criminal activities due to the down economy. This, coupled with an E-crime survey that shows fraud committed by managers, employees, and customers tripled between 2007 and 2008 paints an interesting picture. "In other survey results, 45 percent of respondents who handle critical national infrastructure said they are seeing an increase in the number of attacks on their systems. Fifty-one percent of respondents from the same category said the technical sophistication of those attacks is getting better. Sixty-eight percent said that of all kinds of malicious code they felt Trojan horse programs — ones that are designed to look harmless but can steal data along with other functions — had the most impact on their businesses. Rootkits are the next highest concern, followed by spyware, worms, viruses, mobile malicious code and, finally, adware."

112 comments

  1. Heh by Niris · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is kind of a duh thing, isn't it? When the economy goes south, crime of all sorts that leads to profit increases. There just happens to be a lot of people out there with enough background knowledge in IT to make a profit off of criminal acts in IT.

    1. Re:Heh by JustOK · · Score: 5, Funny

      They're just trying to write their own bonus packages, much like the execs did.

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    2. Re:Heh by Jurily · · Score: 2, Funny

      There just happens to be a lot of people out there with enough background knowledge in IT to make a profit off of criminal acts in IT.

      Also, there is no suck thing as "E-Crime".

      Unless you want to say an axe murderer is only a misguided tree cutting professional.

    3. Re:Heh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not really. I'd just say, "When economy is bad, crime increases."

      I expect IT people are probably less susceptible to layoff than, say, warehouse laborers. I'd also guess that they're generally more honest than your average employee since they're often in a position where they need to be.

      So really, I'd guess there will be more crime all around, but a disproportionately low percentage of it will come from out-of-work IT people.

      Long in short, article is total FUD.

    4. Re:Heh by InlawBiker · · Score: 1

      Shut up and give me your wallet.

    5. Re:Heh by fbjon · · Score: 1

      import com.enterprisey.bonus.*;

      package bonus does not exist :(

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    6. Re:Heh by NeverVotedBush · · Score: 1

      Maybe, but incident after incident links IT insiders to malicious activity on the systems they administer.

      I would also like to think that IT people are both more honest and less likely to be laid off, but people are people and there are quite a few employers out there who don't really appreciate how valuable their IT people are.

      I think many who get laid off will probably be tempted if they don't have luck finding new positions.

    7. Re:Heh by ssintercept · · Score: 2, Insightful

      a very duh thing indeed. from the linked article: "In poor economy, more IT pros could turn to e-crime" (emphasis mine).

      you could say that about anybody or any profession during hard times.

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    8. Re:Heh by billcopc · · Score: 1

      I would like to think that people more often find links in I.T. because it's an information-heavy environment. The average tech workplaces keeps track of everything in these magical files called system logs.

      Convenience stores don't keep a written journal of every person walking in and out, and exactly which items they consider, with their name, address and exact time.

      Combine that with the fact that electronic crimes typically require some sort of court case or long-winded investigation to nail, vs a couple of dumb cops with sticks. Lawyers procure and produce a shit-ton more documentation than a pair of tired cops.

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    9. Re:Heh by b4upoo · · Score: 1

      Can we blame them? After all when people have met all of societies requirements and educated themselves and have shown that they are more than willing to work hard they have completed their end of the social contract. If society then fails to provide for them then it is reasonable for them to get by any way they can. Responsibility works in both directions.

    10. Re:Heh by UncleTogie · · Score: 1

      Can we blame them? After all when people have met all of societies requirements and educated themselves and have shown that they are more than willing to work hard they have completed their end of the social contract.

      I'd venture that since part of "societies requirements" is that you're expected not to commit crimes, they've not actually met their end of the social contract.

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    11. Re:Heh by ultranova · · Score: 1

      I'd venture that since part of "societies requirements" is that you're expected not to commit crimes, they've not actually met their end of the social contract.

      And they didn't commit crimes, holding their end of the bargain; yet the society failed to hold its own end, thus making them morally free to break their end too. It's just like in any contract, if one participant fails to uphold his end the other is free to disregard his too.

      Or so I understood the granparent's point, anyway. I'm not sure if I actually agree, but it certainly is a possible point of view.

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    12. Re:Heh by NeverVotedBush · · Score: 1

      Ahhh, magical logs! I have heard of these things!

      However, my root powers say that I can modify said magical logs and applications such that my trails are covered like the soft footprints of a ninja in socks.

      I will use my +5 stealth rootkit to defeat your magical logs - especially if I have full access to a machine.

      Of course, maybe I was just referring to spreading malware and keystroke logging the average doofus' PC.

      System administrators should never get so confident that they think their systems cannot be rooted and subverted. It happens all the time. And if you have an insider with root access to set up his/her back door before they get let go, and they have the inclination to do so, it's even harder to prevent.

      So, along with your magical log files, do you actually read them or just save them off to backup? Do you run things like logwatch to trigger off certain events and give even earlier notice? Do you run configuration management that checks and verifies system binaries and config files to make sure there have been no unauthorized changes? Do you protect your configuration management server and restrict access even further? Do you run rootkit hunting software to look for any signs of hidden directories and new binaries? Do you run intrusion detection software to see if your systems are being probed? Do you patch critical vulnerabilities immediately and run all of your tests to make sure that nothing happened before you patched? Do you do all of your logging to a remote log server that is also restricted to only security personnel? Is your logging actually configured properly to where it would capture malicious activities? Do you get an alarm if a system stops logging for any reason?

      If you aren't doing all of the above, and your computer is attached to a network and has user accounts on it, you can have your magical log files end up being basically worthless. Someone with administrative access can do a lot of things and it not show up in the logs.

      Real security isn't easy to do. The trick is to make it cost more to your adversaries than whatever damage they can do to you, information they can steal, etc.

      While I value system logs, the real trick is to protect the system so well that you don't have to rely on them exclusively because that's the first place anyone who wants to cover their tracks goes.

  2. Apparently, IT Pros are Pikers... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Funny

    Financial Pros already managed to turn crime into a poor economy.

    1. Re:Apparently, IT Pros are Pikers... by Logic+Worshiper · · Score: 1

      It's the other way around. They turned to crime in a good economy, and their crimes wrecked the economy.

  3. Criminal activities by Narpak · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Once a person out of desperation, or greed, turns to crime to make money for the necessities of life; it is only natural that they use whatever skills they have to the task. An increase in unemployment among IT professionals, and a tough job-marked all around, this sort of development don't surprise me.

    1. Re:Criminal activities by Ihmhi · · Score: 0

      I hope to god Chuck Norris doesn't lose his job.

  4. I know what I must do. by RulerOf · · Score: 1

    Financial Pros already managed to turn crime into a poor economy.

    And it has fallen upon our shoulders to turn the poor economy back into a haven for profitable crime!

    I, for one, humbly, selflessly, and with a strong sense of duty accept this honor on behalf profession and my country; nay, the world! The VIjAGRA e-tailers are calling our names!

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    1. Re:I know what I must do. by sakdoctor · · Score: 1

      I also humbly, selflessly, and with a strong sense of duty...

      GTG LOL

  5. we need an e-Serif by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Quickly before this thing explodes any further.

    1. Re:we need an e-Serif by eln · · Score: 5, Funny

      I agree...we have been sans-Serif for too long!

    2. Re:we need an e-Serif by Kushieda+Minorin · · Score: 0

      Nice try, Times New Roman, but Calibri is here to stay.

    3. Re:we need an e-Serif by leamanc · · Score: 1

      I wish /. would go back to using a serif font. Nobody told CmdrTaco or Jimbo Wales at Wikipedia that sans-serif fonts are meant for headlines and other large text.

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    4. Re:we need an e-Serif by Hillgiant · · Score: 1

      I was going to make a joke like that, but decided it would be too kerny.

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    5. Re:we need an e-Serif by indi0144 · · Score: 1

      You can change the default display font in your browser options, even in IE5 you can do that.

    6. Re:we need an e-Serif by leamanc · · Score: 1

      Already done that; Slashdot's CSS overrides it. Yeah, you can set your browser to always enforce its own font settings, but then you ruin other sites that get it right.

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    7. Re:we need an e-Serif by Ashriel · · Score: 1

      Huh. I didn't even know most you were looking at a sans-serif font. I only see Times New Roman for these posts (Arial and New Courier are also used, but not for general purposes).

      I didn't have to tell Firefox to force anything; your comment made me look at my font settings for the first time since moving up to Firefox 3. Apparently, I have to specifically allow pages to use their fonts rather than mine.

    8. Re:we need an e-Serif by Spasmodeus · · Score: 1

      Yeah, and font humor is too oblique for most people.

    9. Re:we need an e-Serif by assert(0) · · Score: 1

      Deja vu... That reminds me of a bold, italic spaghetti western.

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    10. Re:we need an e-Serif by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indeed, such a sordid tail could descender to a level that is only safe for Anonymous.

    11. Re:we need an e-Serif by ultranova · · Score: 1

      Actually, if it's economic hardship that's causing the increased criminal activity, it would be far more productive to fix that instead. Increase unemployment benefits, raise toll barriers to stop outsourcing and bring industries back rather than have them fund Chinese dictatorship, and squash once and for all the idiotic belief that you can leave something like the nation's entire economy to be controlled by a semi-religious entity some call "The Invisible Hand".

      Stop worshipping free market - it failed, get over it already - and start building prosperity again. Tolls and taxes, the obscene words for a free market fundamentalist, are what has always been the foundation of economic strength. And some social security, while socialistic and thus totally against libertarian bullshit, is what keeps the unemployed from facing starvation or a life of crime.

      Cue a thousand posts stating that they don't want to pay taxes for someone else's benefit, never realizing that they'll end up paying more for the police force necessary to keep something akin to peace in a purely capitalistic society than they would for social safety nets, and reap all the problems of a police state on top of that. Unless a passing John Galt wannabe mods me down first.

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  6. FAQ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I googled for the ecrime howto but couldn't find it. Link please.

    1. Re:FAQ by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 4, Informative

      I googled for the ecrime howto but couldn't find it. Link please.

      Try reading this zine and this zine, too. This is also recommended. Try here, too. Start searching forums, IRC, etc. Subscribe to all the major vulnerability sites, too. Learn to code, if you don't already know how. Get skills in C, assembler, Java, SQL, Visual Basic, Python, PHP, Perl, Unix, Linux, Windows, DNS, TCP/IP, routing protocols, Apache, MySQL, PostgreSQL, Oracle, etc. Understand how networks and systems work, architecturally speaking, from a high-level all the way down to the physical hardware.

      The learning curve is pretty steep for anyone who wishes to ascend beyond the level of 'l337 skr1p7 k1dd13'.

      Be aware, however, that the penalties for getting caught are very high. Think Kevin Mitnick.

    2. Re:FAQ by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 1

      Kevin Mitnick? So if I get caught I will be facing a sweet corporate job and get to author a few books on security? How can I get caught today?


      I did get to meet Kevin at a conference a few years back. It was disappointing. It was like meeting a radio DJ - he looked/seemed nothing at all like I had imagined him in my mind.

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    3. Re:FAQ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is a joke. Why is it modded informative?

    4. Re:FAQ by billcopc · · Score: 1

      You mean he's just an average joe with books to sell ?

      *SHUDDER*

      The guy is smart. That doesn't automagically make him a super-outgoing entertaining celebrity, no more than any of us. I don't know what you were expecting, but he is not going to change your life. He's just a guy like you, likes to push buttons and think outside the box.

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    5. Re:FAQ by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 1

      Who said I was joking? Well, except for the bit at the end about Kevin Mitnick. ;) Well, I was half-kidding (because I already knew about Mitnick's sweet corporate job and books on security); Mitnick did get some bad treatment during his imprisonment.

  7. screw that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    things get that bad I'm turning to drug manufacturing. anyone with half a brain can do it, and finding ingredients/instructions is dirt simple.

    1. Re:screw that by Facetious · · Score: 3, Funny

      No more "Breaking Bad" for you.

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  8. Oblig. Office Space reference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    "You have two options: unemployment or early retirement."

    1. Re:Oblig. Office Space reference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      And if even if you do get caught, they'll send to one of those white collar resort prisons. You know they let you have conjugal visits there?

    2. Re:Oblig. Office Space reference by alxkit · · Score: 2, Funny

      two words: conjugal visits

    3. Re:Oblig. Office Space reference by jmelchio · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I think you're forgetting one option; you could become an entrepeneur. Then again, I might be 'Jumping to Conclusions'.

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    4. Re:Oblig. Office Space reference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, but first I'd have to come up with some great idea. You know, like the Pet Rock.

    5. Re:Oblig. Office Space reference by Kugrian · · Score: 2, Funny

      Five words: you must be new here

    6. Re:Oblig. Office Space reference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But I though it's illegal to do anything but work for minimum wage with no benefits/severance/job security at a giant factory.

  9. Erm? How is this bad? by Jonas+Buyl · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So if 45% says the attacks are on the rise that means 55% said attacks are getting less or equally frequent, right? The 51% is pretty much the same thing. Some analysis you got there.

    1. Re:Erm? How is this bad? by flyingfsck · · Score: 1

      Yup, apparently 77% thinks that attacks are getting less sophisticated.

      This is the epitome of Sloshdat reporting: Take some bogus statistics and then jump to absolutely any conclusion you want, irrespective of what the numbers mean.

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    2. Re:Erm? How is this bad? by ConsumerOfMany · · Score: 2, Informative

      If you survey 100 people who were mugged once last year about how many times they have been mugged this year and 50% said the same (lets say 1) and 50% said increased to 2, then you would have a 50% increase (from 100 to 150 total) this year. So yeas, these stats can be perfectly valid.

    3. Re:Erm? How is this bad? by Kugrian · · Score: 5, Funny

      This is the epitome of Sloshdat reporting..

      Sloshdat: Drinks for nerds. Drinks that matter.

    4. Re:Erm? How is this bad? by billcopc · · Score: 1

      Right, but they said "same or less", which muddies up the results.

      You could theoretically have 50% increase, and the other half decrease, canceling each other out, which is the point the GP was trying to hammer through your cocky little skull.

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    5. Re:Erm? How is this bad? by Drathos · · Score: 1

      I was thinking more along the lines of:

      Sloshdat: Brews for nerds. Drinks that matter.

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    6. Re:Erm? How is this bad? by zobier · · Score: 1

      How about,

      Sloshdat: Brews for nerds, stutter... splatter.

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  10. Corrupt politician by Krneki · · Score: 0, Troll

    At least we are doing it because we are desperate. Politician do it for fun.

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  11. Thats weird.. I just got this in my email.. by mewsenews · · Score: 4, Funny

    Mr. Joe Plomber
    Representative, Accounting Department.
    AIG, United States

    Dear Sir ,

    I am Plmber, joe, the Represenative in charge of Auditing and Accounting section of AIG of USA with due respect and regards. I have decided to contact you on a business transaction that will be very beneficial to both of us at the end of the transaction.

    During our investigation and auditing in this bank, my department came across a very huge sum of money belonging to Bernie MAdoff who died on March 12 in a hunting accident and the fund has been dormant in his/her account with this bank without any claim of the fund in our custody either from his family or relation.

    Although personally, I kept this information secret within myself to enable the whole transactions and idea be splendid and successful during the time of execution.

    The said amount was USD$ 5000000,Five Million. I am overjoyed to say that with the introduction of internet and Website, I was opportune and lucky to have come across your Contact through this satellite media. As it may Interest you to know, Meanwhile all the arrangement to put claim over this asset as the bonafide next of kin to the deceased, get the required approval and transfer this money to a foreign account has been put in place.

    Directives and needed information will be forwarded to you as soon as you indicate your interest and willingness to helpfully assist us and also benefit your self through this amazing business opportunity.

    In fact I could have done this deal alone but because Of my position in this country as a civil servant, we are not allowed to claim a foreign account, this is the actual reason why it will require a intermedary Or consultant who will forward claims as the next of kin. With affidavit of trust to this bank and also Present a foreign account where he will need the money to be retransfer into. I will not fail to assure you that this transaction is 100% cromulent.

    On smooth conclusion of this transaction, you will be entitled to 14% of the total Sum as gratification, while 3% will be set aside upon conclusion, to take care of expenses that may arise during the time Of transfer both local and international like shipping, bribes, e.t.c, while 78% will be for me and my partner.

    Please, you have been advised to keep very confidential as I am still in service and intend to retire from service after I conclude this stunning deal with you. I will be watch the whole situation here in this bank until you confirm the money in your account and ask us to come down to your country for subsequent sharing of the fund according to percentages indicated and to discuss incredible investment opportunities, either in your country or any country you helpfully advise us to invest in.

    All other necessary information will be sent to you When I hear from you. I suggest you get back to me on my private e-mail address: princeamir@worldzia.ua as Soon as possible stating your wish in this deal.

    Yours pleasantly,

    Plobmer, Joe Agust

    1. Re:Thats weird.. I just got this in my email.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      This puzzles me. With our universities pumping out so many unemployed and under-employed arts graduates, why can't the spammers find someone who can write grammatical, plausible English?

    2. Re:Thats weird.. I just got this in my email.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Dir sir/maddam,

      My name is chaney, Dick, who is currently taking care of the widow of Bernie Madoff who dies on March 12 in a hunting accident. Ms MAdoff is indebted to your countries tax official the sum of two million USD $2000000 for the sales of real property during 2007.

      Unfortunately, Ms Madoff is unable to work and after her husbands passage, does not have the funds to pay off her tax debts. I was personally good friends with Bernine madoff and with him on the tragic day of his death. He told me about an account he kept secret from his wife as a surprise with his life savings. But since Ms Madoff was not listed on the account, she is unable to collect her husbands savings to pay off her tax debt and prevent her incarceration.

      I believe that Plmber, joe, from the AIG accountants department has contacted you regarding a transaction where he/she is to take 78% of the proceeds. As a good friend to the madoff family, I wish to make an offer alternate to you that is beneficial to us both.

      Joe Plober informed me that in light of Ms. Madoffs situation, it will be best if you transfer 75% of the total sum to me to pay off Ms. Madoffs tax indebtness, while you retain %20 of the total sum, with 10% set aside for expenses that may arouse during the transaction such as shipping, bribes, blajack and hookers.

      I think you will agree that this arragement benefits you and Ms Madoff moreso than the original agreement with Mr Plober.

      If you agree to these terms, I will send you all necessary information and holding accounts for your deposit upon receipt.

      Forever yours,

      Cheney, Dick Sr.

    3. Re:Thats weird.. I just got this in my email.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you forgot to spell every name differently

    4. Re:Thats weird.. I just got this in my email.. by billcopc · · Score: 1

      Because the arts graduates expect no less than $150/hour for their time, as they so joyously read in the recruitment propaganda that enticed them to blow a small fortune on tuition.

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  12. See....told you so! by Drone69 · · Score: 1

    Aha! I always knew IT people were the scourge of society.

  13. Gooooooood; let the hate flow through you.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The DarkSide of the force is a pathway to many abilities; some consider to be unnatural.

  14. Well Duh? by Ronald+Dumsfeld · · Score: 0, Troll

    What do they expect? IT staff that got their jobs outsourced to India to break into their old companies systems and fix the crud written by the people who got their jobs before they'd finished paying off their college loans?

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  15. Poor economy affecting IT less by cryfreedomlove · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm not buying this story at all. I live and work in Silicon Valley. I do see lots of folks getting laid off at a higher rate than in the past. At the same time, I see the same folks quickly finding new work. Sometimes it involves a pay cut, often it does not. I just don't see IT in this area being affected as deeply as other professions in other parts of the country. It is not bad enough in IT that good people are turning to lives of crime to make ends meet.

    1. Re:Poor economy affecting IT less by jellomizer · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think most of this is from self proclaimed IT Pros, vs. Real ones.

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    2. Re:Poor economy affecting IT less by causality · · Score: 1

      I'm not buying this story at all. I live and work in Silicon Valley. I do see lots of folks getting laid off at a higher rate than in the past. At the same time, I see the same folks quickly finding new work. Sometimes it involves a pay cut, often it does not. I just don't see IT in this area being affected as deeply as other professions in other parts of the country. It is not bad enough in IT that good people are turning to lives of crime to make ends meet.

      Perhaps the phenomenon of outsourcing has already gradually done the damage to this industry that a poor economy would have done more suddenly. That's just an idea; I don't really have the economic understanding to know how to determine whether there is any truth to that, but that was my first impression when I saw your post. Maybe someone who does understand economics can tell me if there is any validity to it.

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    3. Re:Poor economy affecting IT less by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Haven't you seen Office Space? Tough times at work lead to criminal schemes! Science fact.

    4. Re:Poor economy affecting IT less by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, the article doesn't think so either. Just the asshat that wrote the summary.

    5. Re:Poor economy affecting IT less by Slider451 · · Score: 1

      It is not bad enough in IT that good people are turning to lives of crime to make ends meet.

      More likely they were never good people.

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    6. Re:Poor economy affecting IT less by Intrinsic · · Score: 1

      LOL, I'm not exactly sure what you mean be self-proclaimed and real pros. But if you mean school educated -vs- experience driven. Ill put my money on experience driven any day of the week.

      A Real pro, is someone who is dedicated to providing an excellent service and making sure he has the expertise to back it up when the time comes. Everything is is just, well academic.

    7. Re:Poor economy affecting IT less by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      Umm Usually Real Pros have Education & Experience.
      I agree with your second paragraph though. However Experience without Education often provides derivative work, or bad coding, your app may run and look good on the outside however keeping it running other then by yourself is much harder if you don't learn good practices, not necessarily as they are always better, but people know what to expect when they look at it. Education without Experience you don't know when it is better to break the rules. Sometimes you need to say TO HELL with good form, this way runs faster and is easier to change. Real IT Pros don't have anything to prove, they know their stuff, not afraid to ask questions to learn new things, don't get emotionally attached to their code when it is time to hand it off to someone else. Even people with Education & Experience are not always IT Pros but still hacks too, there is a lot of growing up and maturing you need to do before you can be a real Pro. Sometimes a Guy in his early 20s gets it. Sometimes in there 40's and others never get it no matter how much education and experience they have.

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  16. Oh noez! by Munpe+Q · · Score: 2, Funny

    sum 1 stolz my m3ga hurtz!

  17. Break out Paul Simon... by GPLDAN · · Score: 3, Funny

    The problem is all inside your head, my manager said to me
    The answer is easy if you take it logically
    Id like to help you in your struggle to be free
    There must be fifty ways to leave your employer
    He said its really not my habit to intrude
    Furthermore, I hope my meaning wont be lost or misconstrued
    But Ill repeat myself at the risk of being crude
    There must be fifty ways to leave your employer
    Fifty ways to leave your employer


    Just slip a virus out the back, jack
    Make a new botnet plan, stan
    You dont need to be coy, roy
    Just get yourself free with stolen accounts!
    Hop on the ddos bus, gus
    You dont need to discuss much
    Just drop off the encryption key, lee
    And get yourself free
    He said it grieves me so to see you in such pain
    I wish there was something I could do to make you smile again
    I said I appreciate that and would you please explain
    why the fuck you laid me off


    He said why dont we both just sleep on it tonight
    And I believe in the morning youll begin to see the light
    And then he blew me off and I realized he probably was right
    There must be fifty ways to leave your employer
    Fifty ways to leave your employer

  18. Freudian slip? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Also, there is no suck thing as "E-Crime".

    No suck thing? Freudian slip? So what's on YOUR mind?

    1. Re:Freudian slip? by Jurily · · Score: 1

      Umm. My spell checker takes the most often used words into account.

    2. Re:Freudian slip? by SCPRedMage · · Score: 2, Funny

      So, you "suck" a lot, then?

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    3. Re:Freudian slip? by Jurily · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      whoosh

    4. Re:Freudian slip? by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 1

      Either Microsoft or vacuum cleaners.

    5. Re:Freudian slip? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      English spelling really is difficult. In other languages they don't have contests for children to demonstrate the grueling hours they've endured learning it.

  19. still kickin' it with the kids by FudRucker · · Score: 1
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  20. I wonder if you go to the by geekoid · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ePrison for committing an eCrime.

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    1. Re:I wonder if you go to the by value_added · · Score: 1

      ePrison for committing an eCrime

      Good one!

      You'll have to admit, though, it's an improvement from the current state of affairs in which the the "cyber" prefix is applied to everything.

      Maybe it's time for a Slashdot poll so we ccan decide what to call these things going forward. My vote is Crime 2.0.

    2. Re:I wonder if you go to the by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Yea, they make you stay in second life for 5 years

    3. Re:I wonder if you go to the by Harnish · · Score: 2, Funny

      So what would ePrison be? AOL?

    4. Re:I wonder if you go to the by geekoid · · Score: 2, Funny

      Prodigy

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  21. Economics of IT crime by 32771 · · Score: 1

    I wonder whether anyone trying to earn anything trough black hattery will find it easy in those tough times. I'm sure not all parts of the world have been hit equally and so becomming an international criminal could become even more of a necessity for the so inclined. Maybe they should try getting some of that money back from Nigeria.

    I also have doubts that SPAM is going be on the upturn and I guess the article already makes clear that people who were smart enough to not make the obvious financial mistakes will be the target, "The reality is we are seeing more sophisticated attacks aimed at sophisticated people."

    What I'm wondering is whether it makes any sense for employed people to steal from their employer, sixty percent of all people thought that their colleagues would do that, but that doesn't mean much. They probably were overly pessimistic just to be on the safe side. I mean the real world isn't like Office Space.

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    1. Re:Economics of IT crime by jweller · · Score: 1

      I mean the real world isn't like Office Space.

      I want to work where you do, I've found my professional life to be depressingly similar to Office Space. Still not showing Jennifer Aniston my O face though.

  22. My Plan by guysmilee · · Score: 1

    1.) Work a few years. 2.) Wait for recession. ... ... ... 6.) Profit.

  23. looks harmelss by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "malicious code that looks harmless"
    If you go to the trouble of looking at the actual code, what is the point of letting it run if it looks harmless? (other than xkcd)

  24. I don't know who the wiseass is by Critical+Facilities · · Score: 4, Funny

    that tagged this story "eHamburglar", but I want to thank you. For whatever reason, that struck me so funny that I laughed out loud...so loudly that I can only truly call it a "guffaw", and as a result, everyone within earshot of my office is convinced I'm off my meds.

  25. who is and who is not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you are so silly... the only difference is that on difficult times you see who "is" and who "is not"

  26. Stop CORPRATE SOCIALSM: +1, PatRIOTic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The United States of America is becoming more fascist with its bailout of the financial institution elites.

    Call this 1-800-FUC-KGOPvoice your concern and stop the rampant SOCIALISM that is eroding the presence of NASCAR, Rush Limbaugh, and the NRA.

    Yours In Capitalism,
    Kilgore Trout

  27. Duh? by sandbenders · · Score: 1

    Ok, so they ask if attacks are increasing, and 45% say they are, presumably meaning 55% said no. That's an increase? That sounds like a decrease.

    51% say the technical sophistication is increasing? Well, as time goes on, technology gets more sophisticated. It seems like attacks would follow that trend too.

    This doesn't sound like a real story, it sounds like someone coming up with an idea and trying to make the statistics sound right. Didn't Mark Twain say something about lies, d*mn lies and statistics?

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  28. Ooh! Look! Shiny! by WickedLilMonkies · · Score: 1

    Let's see:

    1. Attacks are getting more sophisticated. Is this really unexpected? As countermeasures are developed against existing attacks, they have to get more sophisticated.

    2. "...many people feel that out-of-work IT workers will be much more tempted..."; duh. Ask John Q. Public if X worker in Y field might be tempted to commit crimes against the field they have experience in when the econmic pressure is on, and Mr. Public will always say yes.

    TFA doesn't actually actually say anything about out of work IT people actually turning to crime or link crime to the economy in any meaningful way.

  29. Its a good thing. by mevets · · Score: 2, Funny

    Look at how mired in poorly functioning, slow, useless software the entire IT world is. These guys could bring about the end of crime....

    1. Re:Its a good thing. by jfeser2 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, a virus that takes about half an hour to load, and bothers you the whole time with flashing popups.

  30. Would someone turn this into "Ask Slashdot"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My story submission: "Hello. I am an out-of-work IT worker and will be much more tempted to turn to criminal activities due to the down economy. Can someone please give me some pointers? Thanks."

  31. Does Gitmo Have Internet? by squozzer · · Score: 1

    Problem solved.

  32. So could plumbers, autoworkers, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and financial executives.

    oh, wait....

  33. Yep. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    If I had a buyer for it, I'd definitely sell my company's data for whatever I could get for it. Hell, I'd give them Administrator accounts on my Active Directory network if they asked and paid for it.

    Having my department's budget slashed to where I literally can no longer deploy new workstations or printers because we don't have sufficient surge protectors to plug them into or enough wall outlets, my employees fired to where I am now doing the job of about four people, and being made to work 70-hour work weeks on salary are terribly frustrating. Oh, and they're only paying me 40% of the average salary for the market I live in yet the company routinely spends thousands upon thousands of dollars per week in wasted fuel, electricity, and even outright money as I watched one of our customer service agents discard an entire case of blank magnetic cards (~1000) because she spilled coke on the outside cardboard box and didn't want to clean it up. The cards wouldn't even have been touched!

    Nobody else is hiring, I can't get a raise, and my savings run out after this month. My current job pays less money than my rent, utilities, car and food monthly cost to say nothing about having "disposable income" that I hear so much about these days. My savings will be dry after having let me survive being "under-employed" for the last 6 month; I had about 3 total months worth of expenses saved up when the job trouble started. I have two months of available credit after that. Then, I'm living in my van or a storage unit, or something.

    My friends are all very sympathetic, and have all volunteered that I can do couch rotations for a day or two at a time if it goes that way but that's only marginally better. None of them are in a position to lend me money, not that I'd ever allow them to do that anyway. And my family can't either.

    I can't get another job because I'm already working 10 hours a day, 7 days a week -- I guess I could replace "sleep" with "work" but that won't hold for more than a week or so. I guess if I get really desperate, I could sell my car for the ~9k I can get for it and that'll buy me some more time.

    In conclusion: Yes. This is happening. And there's probably nothing anyone can do about it.

    1. Re:Yep. by UncleTogie · · Score: 1

      ...and of course, the judge will look at your living situation and agree that you can break the law all you want 'cause your job sucks.

      While that may be considered justification for many, the law's not gonna see it the same way.

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  34. There are other things to worry about by Calyth · · Score: 1

    Like those CEOs who are making a reaping despite the bad economy opening some rootkit and exposing information. That's a legit worry.

    If an IT guy is going to turn bad, they would've done that a long time ago. They're in the best position to avoid detection anyways.

  35. Article fails statistics by nasor · · Score: 1

    So 45 percent of respondents said that they are seeing an increasing number of attacks? HOW MUCH are they increasing? If 45% of respondents said that attacks are up 0.01%, I don't really care. Way to not give me enough information to form an opinion, article...

  36. the future is sooner than I thought by jollyreaper · · Score: 1

    "There's only four things we do better than anyone else: music, movies, microcode, and high speed pizza delivery."

    The former hedge-fund managers are hogging all the pizza delivery jobs, guess that means the coders are going to have to stick with crimes you can prepend with "cyber."

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  37. Spurious by impuck · · Score: 1

    Of course I didn't RFA, but I did read another recent article that stated IT unemployment was just shy of %2, and really hasn't fluctuated much with the recent downturn. With the assumption that the less then %2 aren't necessarily nefarious, I contend that this position is a bit detached from reality.

  38. I disagree by Teunis · · Score: 1

    With higher online education and easier access to breaking tools - and a certain amount of social support for it (popular) - I think it's the folks who have too much time on their hands doing it. Now my experiences were working with ISPs in a small town with high income rates - and nothing for anyone to do - so everyone had computers and did online stuff. Hacking attempts were higher there than I've even seen working for a stock-exchange feed company (which got hit at the same level, scale and pressure as an international bank).

    I think it's firmly in the hands of a populace with too much time and not enough to do - a populace who's gotten tired of TV and wants to do something with a "concrete" result but without too much in the way of repercussions (as they understand it). A little feeling of empowerment and a society that suggests there's nothing wrong with it.

    The basic tools are widely available and most people (especially younger) have access and sufficient education to use them. I don't see any reason to blame high-tech workers for something that does not need high-tech worker education.
    (what real e-crime I saw on an internal level were from people who worked sales, management and related - not tech. I've seen this in a few companies btw so no one read any specific organization out of it)

    I personally consider it comparable to breaking and entering - but then it's harder to identify who's doing it so it's hard to have any consequences.

  39. Masked publicity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wonder how much money the likes of Symantec, Kaspersky, and so on, have to spend on these articles...

    'Cause that seems to always be the punchline: be afraid, be very afraid, and let the nice security experts worry about it... for a nominal fee, of course.