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Slashdot Keybindings, Dynamic Stories

We've been working hard on the new dynamic Slashdot project (logged in users can enable this by enabling the beta index in their user preferences). I just wanted to quickly mention that there are keybindings on the index. The WASD and VI movement keys do stuff that we like, and the faq has the complete list. Also, if you are using Firefox or have Index2 beta enabled, you can click 'More' in the footer at the end of the page to load the next block of stories in-line without a page refresh. We're experimenting now with page sizes to balance load times against the likelihood that you'll click. More features will be coming soon, but the main thing on our agenda now is optimization. The beta index2 is sloooow and that's gotta change. We're aiming for 2 major optimizations this week (CSS Sprites, and removing an old YUI library) that I'm hoping will put the beta page render time into the "Sane" time frame (which, in case you are wondering, is several seconds faster than that "Insane" time frame we're currently seeing).

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  1. Sane/Insane referring to pages or posts loading? by Shadow+of+Eternity · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Because I'd personally be more tolerant of pages taking a few seconds longer to load everyone's comments up than the usually 5-30 second delay on previewing and submitting my own comments.

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  2. phew by ChienAndalu · · Score: 4, Funny

    lucky the beta index isn't linked in the summary, otherwise it would already be slashdotted

  3. Special button by Spatial · · Score: 5, Funny

    What about a button that causes Kdawson to be kicked in the crotch? You can call it 'Kickdot', as a sleight against the size of his man-spheres.

    Show a counter next to it, it'll be great. It'll be the first virtual button ever to get worn out from overuse.

  4. lynx by Gothmolly · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just don't break Lynx support.

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  5. Stop auto-updating? by Smitty825 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One (small) issue I seem to have is with the auto-updating feature. Often, I'm connected over a (relatively) slow cell phone link. When I'm using this slow link, I'd prefer to not have Slashdot query the server for updated stories. I know I can press the "pause" button, at the top to stop the auto-updating, but if I forget to do so, then I'm annoyed by some other app responding slowly. Is there plans to make this feature configurable? (Note: Each time I load /., I need to remember to hit the "pause" button...the previous state is never saved)

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  6. The Beta Index is horrible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The beta page is a perfect example of why I hate the new slashdot features. There are buttons all over the place with randomly coloured backgrounds and the like; it's awful. I hope none of it gets live.

    1. Re:The Beta Index is horrible by bonch · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I hate loading content without refresh. This is becoming standard on too many websites. IT BREAKS THE BEHAVIOR OF THE BACK BUTTON. Such use of JavaScript should be reserved for minor interface interactions, like saving settings or opening a login prompt.

      It's getting really annoying how, after decades of desktop API development and interface conventions, the web has come along and not only required everyone to reinvent APIs for every website, but custom interface behaviors as well. It's like we're back to MS-DOS programs when it was every man for himself.

      There's my cranky rant for the day.

  7. WASD customization by XanC · · Score: 5, Funny

    What about people on non-QWERTY keyboards? Can you create a user option for what key does what?

    1. Re:WASD customization by langelgjm · · Score: 5, Funny

      Why is this modded funny? I use Dvorak, and I'm sure there are plenty of other /.ers who do, too.

      Then there are the people using foreign language layout - AZERTY, etc.

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    2. Re:WASD customization by chubs730 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Red Five standing by.

  8. Feature request -- by girlintraining · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Please fix the user pages. The new way of doing it where our comments are buried several clicks in is irritating. The only reason most of us go to our own user pages is to see if anyone's replied to our comment.

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    1. Re:Feature request -- by Hatta · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I emailed Malda about this when it was first implemented, here's
      what he said:

      The feed should contain stories you've tagged. The idea is that this
      is a place where you can share content you like with others.. so if I
      go to ~hatta I see the slashdot YOU think I should see. But you're
      right in that your comments should be in that page as well. There's
      technical reasons that they aren't, but we're going to try to fix
      them.

      Doesn't make any sense to me though. I've always considered my user page to be for my own benefit, not others. Slashdot isn't myspace. I never read anyone else's user page, and I doubt anyone reads mine. But there you have it. His solution for people like us? Bookmark slashdot.org/~username/comments.

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    2. Re:Feature request -- by TheRaven64 · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Why not just set it to send you a message when someone replies to one of your comments? That way, the front page tells you how many new messages you have. That said, it would be great if:
      1. You could jump directly to the page with the reply from the messages list page, rather than having to go via the message page.
      2. Messages indicating replies to the same post could be grouped.
      3. The messages system actually let you send messages to other Slashdot readers, so you didn't have to post your email address in a discussion you wanted to take offline.
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  9. Turning it off. by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm not fond of the new beta index or the new user page system. Can they be turned off?

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  10. Re:Sane/Insane referring to pages or posts loading by Shadow+of+Eternity · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Which is even more easily translatable to "It's less disruptive for a page to load comments over time while I'm reading through them than it is for me to need to wait a minute or two just on previewing/submitting something I've already typed".

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  11. C-X C-preview by enHatt · · Score: 4, Funny

    So, when are the emacs keybindings up and running?

  12. Re:Slashdot looks weird by ScuttleMonkey · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The story tag is to distinguish stories from submissions and comments.

    Among other datatypes. The firehose is our content delivery tool and pretty much any page is just becoming a filter on the firehose to display whatever data you are asking for. This allows us to do a lot of really cool things (both now and in the near future) and get some performance hits back soon.

  13. Re:Slashdot looks weird by ScuttleMonkey · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yes, it has been a painful migration. However, a complete rewrite of the FAQ is coming soon (with context-appropriate linkage from the rest of the site) along with a much more intuitive interface that allows for easier firehose use. You have already seen the very tip of the iceberg with this post by Rob, expect to many more things like this making the site easier to decode.

    I know it hasn't been easy, but hang in there. Slashteam has some really cool stuff on the way.

  14. Re:Sane/Insane referring to pages or posts loading by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Which is easily translatable to "I'm more interested in speaking than reading what other people might have to say on the issue"."

    Which is easily further translatable again to: I have a Slashdot account .

    To be fair, if the guy has a clue, he would be more interesting in posting than reading, and he would be right to have the preference. For example, take your post. You missed major computing concepts like batch processing and time slices. The guy just wants one big time slice to load large amounts of data, and one small time slice to post small amounts of data. This is called intelligent system design.

    How much should he be interested in reading your post? I'll leave that as an exercise for the reader(s).

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  15. Re:Slashdot looks weird by ivan256 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't think the original poster correctly framed the spirit of his question....

    Why doesn't the front page filter out the display of the 'story' tag?

    (Can't help but stick this in here: Why did the horrendously buggy and unusable new default user page go live? A lot of the stuff on there just seems random. Is the number in the speech bubble at the top the number of total comments in the thread the user last posted in? Why? Why the terrible CSS for the top item? Why are the comment titles formatted differently there than everywhere else? Why the redundant 'comments' slashbox on the right with the same content as the left half of the page? Why remove the menus that are on the right side of every other page on the site?)

  16. Rainbow wtf? by Bazman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What's with the rainbow colours? Each story has a little flash of colour on it, and then top right there's a dropdown with some colours on it, and if I choose a colour the stories all seem to dance about a bit and shuffle around. What. The. Flip? And then on the top left there's an 'Edit' box which has - amongst it's other unexplained options - another colour selector. Which does what? I have no idea. Is it some kind of quality thing? I don't have a map of quality to colour in my head. This is meaningless. And don't try and explain what it all means - I'm trying to read the news here, I don't want to have to read a manual. I'll go elsewhere.

    And what do colour-blind people think? At least if you are playing with colour be smart and use Color Brewer palettes.

    Honestly, I think slashdot looked pretty good enough in 2002:

    http://web.archive.org/web/20020806091841/slashdot.org/

      - go back to that, change the fonts and colours a bit, perfect.

    Another recent example of a design-gone-bad - www.freshmeat.net - is the current new implementation:

      http://www.freshmeat.net/

      really better in terms of ease of use than 2002?

    http://web.archive.org/web/20020603034258/http://freshmeat.net/

    Raaaaage!

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  17. Re:Slashdot looks weird by ScuttleMonkey · · Score: 4, Informative

    well, then among the many "cool" updates on the way you will appreciate the work that is currently being expended to make low-bandwidth, small screen, iphone, etc, interfaces much less buggy and faster-loading. :)

  18. Re:My lawn by Gothmolly · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Nothing wrong, except where it adds no value. I want a list of articles, grouped by category, that I can browse, then hit either a link to the article, or the comments.

    I don't need tags, AJAX, redraws w/o page loads, blah blah blah.

    There was nothing wrong with good old 'rn'.

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  19. Re:Sane/Insane referring to pages or posts loading by caluml · · Score: 4, Informative

    Agreed. WHY does it take so long for my preview to load?

    Because they're portscanning the IP you're coming from. Set it to REJECT rather than DROP from Slashdot's IP/range, and you'll find it almost instant. It's pretty annoying though for those of use who've been posting for years (yeah, I know my ID isn't low - I had one that was, but stopped posting for a while, and forgot it :( ).