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iPhone Jailbreaking Still Going Strong

snydeq writes "Despite the productivity promises of Apple's forthcoming 3.0 firmware update, jailbreaking should continue to push the iPhone's productivity envelope, as users increasingly demand the Holy Grail of smartphone power use: applications that run in the background, InfoWorld reports. Copy and paste, video recording and streaming, Internet tethering, and content search are just a few of the features over which iPhone users have sought to jailbreak their devices — a practice Apple itself has done little to crack down on. Jailbreak apps circumvent hardware and software restrictions that Apple says ensure a consistent, responsive user interface and optimal battery endurance. In particular, jailbroken phones can run apps in the background, a capability Apple reserves for its own apps but prohibits in third-party programs. Jay Freeman, creator of the Cydia iPhone installer and Cydia Store, however, believes a free-market approach is the best way to satisfy power users' demands for features without compromising the performance of their iPhones. And given Apple's App Store overcrowding, it seems likely that jailbroken phones and app venues like Cydia Store will continue to be popular with iPhone customers and developers, even after the 3.0 firmware ships."

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  1. Jailbreaking will continue by WatcherWatching · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yes, and why should it not? It is similar to the how users run Mac OS on non-apple computers. If users want to do something, they should be allowed too! Consistency of user interface is no excuse, because it wouldn't even affect users with non-jailbroke phones. Apple just likes to control what users see and do, and jailbreaking is just evidence that some people don't like being told what to do!

  2. Not to mention... by something_wicked_thi · · Score: 3, Informative

    You have to first jailbreak the phone if you want to unlock it. But I recently switched to Google Android so I don't have to deal with this. It's a less nice experience, but I imagine a lot of people who are willing to go through the trouble of jailbreaking a phone are also willing to put up with the less polished UI.

    1. Re:Not to mention... by BitZtream · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why? When you can just jailbreak and have the polished UI?

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    2. Re:Not to mention... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      jailbreaking (in windows) requires about 5 clicks from an installshield type application. That's it. Jailbroken, done.

      All your purchased apps (and free apps from the Apple store) still work just fine. The UI is still the same (if you want it to be the same). Just two new icons (to let you download non-Applestore apps).

      I'm not sure what you mean by "go through all the trouble of jailbreaking"

    3. Re:Not to mention... by clarkkent09 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Polished UI on a phone is worth something though. It's nice to have a phone that does fewer things but it's a pleasure to use. Like any phone, it's too small to do any serious work with, and the things I, and I dare say most other people, use it for the most often - email, sms, gps, internet (quick lookups, too small for anything else), ipod and (gasp) making phone calls - it does incredibly well, far better than any other phone I know of.

      Yes, cut and paste and one or two other things are sorely missed, but honestly all these other features people are asking for just make me worried if the future versions will have the clean and beautiful interface like the last one. "Power users", while the most vocal, tend to be a small part of the market. Hope Apple keep their head and not trip over themselves trying to please that segment of the market and make the product cluttered, ugly and crash prone like all the other "smart" phones out there.

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    4. Re:Not to mention... by TheRaven64 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Because then you're getting an unsupported product, which takes away a lot of the attraction of something like an iPhone, and because you're supporting a company that believes that control of the device belongs to them, not the customer.

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  3. infoworld needs to lose the ego by Red+Flayer · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Despite the productivity promises of Apple's forthcoming 3.0 firmware update, jailbreaking should continue to push the iPhone's productivity envelope, as users increasingly demand the Holy Grail of smartphone power use: applications that run in the background, InfoWorld reports.

    Seriously? The two items that comprise the Holy Grail of smartphone power use are background apps and Infoworld reports?

    Just look at the source of the TFA -- it's Infoworld themselves! Methinks they have a slightly overdeveloped sense of self-worth.

    Also, I'm not sure why I would need to jailbreak my iPhone to access Infoworld, they must have some serious issues in their web design department.

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    1. Re:infoworld needs to lose the ego by Gnavpot · · Score: 3, Funny

      Be sure you understand the argument 'afore ya throw yrself in the fray.

      I want a "-1 Whoosh" moderation option.

      Or perhaps it should be +1 so posts like yours are put on display for everyone to laugh at...

  4. Poor, poor dears. by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Funny

    They know not what they do, tinkering with the perfection of Jobs' vision. Apple will have to work even harder to cryptographically protect them from evil...

  5. isn't it against the EULA? by alen · · Score: 3, Informative

    i swear there was a story last month how Apple had it in the newest SDK EULA that you can't make jailbroken apps with it. Apple gave up a technical solution and just told people that if you want to write jailbroken apps then do it from scratch and don't use their code

  6. 3rd party in background means malware... by bwcbwc · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Apple's prohibition on 3rd party software running in background is probably the best line of defense against spyware infecting the average idiot/user's phone. Once you let un-vetted apps run in the background, you create the opportunity for keyloggers, spam software and all the other fun stuff that runs on PCs to infect the iPhone without the user even being aware. Plus you end up going down the path of requiring anti-virus and security software to run on the phone all the time, reducing the battery life. What's basically going on is that no one is willing to pay the costs that would be required to develop a "trusted application" framework where Apple could test and approve 3rd party apps. Plus, there's always the paranoia factor that someone's great idea would get stolen as part of the approval process.

    But given the state of windoze computing these days, I'd say Apple's approach has to be viewed more as a security feature than an anti-competitive fair trade violation.

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    1. Re:3rd party in background means malware... by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes, that's right. You are being restricted for your own good!

      It must be nice to be so naive...

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    2. Re:3rd party in background means malware... by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Windows Mobile devices have had applications running in the background for ages and there have not been outbreaks of infections preventing people from dialing 911. Android phones are also very open and lack such absurd restrictions.

      Enough with the strawmen arguements and just come to grips with the fact that sometimes Apple puts their business interests before the consumer.

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    3. Re:3rd party in background means malware... by langelgjm · · Score: 5, Informative

      if your PC is infected no one cares. if your cell phone gets infected by a virus and you can't call 911 in an emergency than Apple is going to pay out a lot of money in a lawsuit.

      I highly doubt that. Someone might try to sue, but I guarantee that every cell contract you sign has some clause saying they don't guarantee 24/7 access, access may be interrupted unexpectedly for any reason, etc. Otherwise people would be suing just for a regular network outage.

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    4. Re:3rd party in background means malware... by dara · · Score: 4, Interesting

      If this is a significant issue, I would have expected to see a bigger problem on Android phones by now. I had a G1 for 30 days, and then switched to the iPhone as the G1 in November was too flaky for me, but the one thing I absolutely hate is not being able to put a program I write or download from a trusted source onto my phone. I'll probably go back to Android in another 1 1/2 years and by then, hopefully the hardware will be better. Or maybe Apple will remove this annoying restriction at some point before then and they might keep me. My iPhone is a bit flaky too, they need better hardware also - I've reinstalled twice when it wouldn't turn on. I'm a bit hesitant to jailbreak and potentially be causing myself more headaches.

      Dara

      The one app I'm willing to pay for is at least out for the iPhone (in 4 flavors) and is unavailable for the G1 - the ability to view topographic USGS maps offline with your position (search for topographic on the app store). So there is something to be said for being on the more popular platform. I sure hope Android gets more popular - I wish I could have helped, but that first phone was driving me crazy.

  7. Re:Other Than "War-Driving"... by GuldKalle · · Score: 4, Funny

    How about "faux-tech-neo-nerd-speak"?

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  8. Functionality! by registered_after_8_y · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The reason i have a jailbroken iPhone (legally unlocked, bought it in Italy) is the way the App Store apps are crippled. The apps from cydia have much better functions in many cases, as a simple example the flashlight app, the one from cydia can override the screen brightness settings, which makes it actually work, whereas the official doesn't. Also apps like intelliscreen and others like it make it clear that I will still jailbreak my phone at 3.0.

  9. It's all about the awesome by richtaur · · Score: 5, Interesting

    iPhone is great, but a jailbroken iPhone is AWESOME! Oldschool emulators (Genesis, Nintendo), bash terminal, custom text ringtones, scp/ssh ... it's a fantastic device by itself, but without restrictions it's unbelievably good.

  10. Must not be a programmer by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You have to first jailbreak the phone if you want to unlock it. But I recently switched to Google Android so I don't have to deal with this. It's a less nice experience, but I imagine a lot of people who are willing to go through the trouble of jailbreaking a phone are also willing to put up with the less polished UI.

    Given that Jailbreaking is essentially an O(1) operation over the life of the device, and day to day use is O(n), I'll take the better UI thanks!!

    On Android you also still have to deal with hunting down apps not approved for the store, just like looking at Cydia apps on the iPhone...

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    1. Re:Must not be a programmer by chartreuse · · Score: 3, Funny

      Goatse.

  11. 3 Reasons I still keep my Touch Jailbroken by stalky14 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    1. File Sharing. My Touch shows up just like any other shared Mac in the Shared bar in Finder windows. Once I log in, I can drag files back and forth across the entire directory structure just like any NAS situation. This includes pulling out iTunes music, albeit with funky filenames. iTunes can still figure them out, though.

    2. Ad Block. Either by the shareware Adblock or a hosts file.

    3. Emulators. The GBA emulator has gotten quite good.

  12. Re:Other Than "War-Driving"... by GNUbuntu · · Score: 4, Informative

    Except it's not a faux tech expression. It comes from breaking out of a chroot jail. Lern2Unix plox.

  13. What for whom? by joh · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The trouble is that as soon as you have arbitrary apps deciding to run in the background, you have to look *very* closely what they do. Because if you don't, these apps will suck at your battery until it is empty.

    And most normal users most certainly don't want to have to do that. At least with the appstore apps you can rely on them to stop doing anything as soon as you return to the home screen or click the phone "off". And Apple has done a really good job when it comes to power management. You may easily overlook this fact on an iPhone, but if you look at the iPod touch this thing runs (sleeps) for weeks if you press the off button. Having apps running in the background and then return to an empty battery two hours (or one day) later surely is *not* in the interest of the users. Constantly having to check for (and kill) running apps in some task-manager is no solution either.

    Say what you will about Apple, but power management is one thing they are very serious about, not only with the iPhone. The new MacBook is able to even put most netbooks to shame when it comes to minimum power draw and this is not due to magic but just to lots of hard work and smart hard- and software. I've seen my MacBook drawing about 6 watts from the battery with WiFi on, display on 50% and writing things. This is outright impressive, they must have some really clever people working on that while most other hardware vendors just don't care and either stuff fat batteries into their machines or give you two hours of battery life. Limitations like "no background apps on the iPhone" are there for a good reason, so be careful what you wish for.