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NYC Wants Ideas For "Taxi Technology 2.0"

An anonymous reader writes "New York City is soliciting ideas from the public about possible technology improvements for its 13,000+ fleet of taxis. TLC (the city agency in charge of cabs) is 'seek[ing] input and information on ways to enhance the technology systems in each taxicab for the benefit of passengers, drivers and owners alike.'"

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  1. Frebreze? by AlexBirch · · Score: 5, Funny

    Seriously, I started smoking to get the cab smell off of me.

    1. Re:Frebreze? by Loki_1929 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm also in favor of enhancing the smell of NYC cabs. Either invest in something which removes all odors from all environments or possibly introduce hygiene requirements for licensed cab drivers.

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    2. Re:Frebreze? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      They need to make those little chrome urinals bigger. One isn't big enough. I usually start with the one on the door, then move to the one in the middle of the back of the front seat, then finally on to the one on the remaining door. Usually making a mess all over the back.

      Would be nice if there was a better way of opening them up too. That chrome flip top lid must get nasty. They were smart enough to make the flushing automatic (very quiet by the way) but you have to manually lift the lid. Doesn't make sense. It takes some force and snaps closed quickly, so watch out.

      Any cab I've been in, the little dime sized urinal cake holder is always empty too.

    3. Re:Frebreze? by bitrex · · Score: 4, Funny

      Reminds me of the first time I used a unisex bathroom at college, when I decided to investigate what the small aluminum boxes mounted on the sides of the stalls were for. They weren't for dispensing after dinner mints, I'll tell you that much.

  2. Ozone Generator by Maniacal · · Score: 5, Insightful

    http://www.interstaterentals.net/id84.html

    Nothing worse than a smelly cab driver on a hot summers day. Eliminate odors electronically and help repair that pesky hole in the ozone while you're at it :)

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    1. Re:Ozone Generator by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      negative, ghost rider

      Even very low concentrations of ozone can be harmful to the upper respiratory tract and the lungs. The severity of injury depends on both by the concentration of ozone and the duration of exposure. Severe and permanent lung injury or death could result from even a very short-term exposure to relatively low concentrations.

  3. jkhsad ass7e bcadjh by Roadkills-R-Us · · Score: 4, Funny

    Install translators so drivers and passengers can communicate.

  4. Electric Cabs by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Make all new taxis run on 100% electric. NYC's electric power comes 40% from nuclear (Indian Point), the rest from high-efficiency (up to 85% in CCGT) natural gas plants. The resulting switch would cut a lot of the smog remaining in our fairly green city.

    Oh yeah, make the cars amphibious so they can go around the bridges/tunnels bottlenecks that clog so much NYC traffic.

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    1. Re:Electric Cabs by MBCook · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Actually for something as common as a NYC taxi, a battery swap setup could work VERY well. Drive into a little garage, they slide out your old battery pack and slide in a new one. Total time? A few minutes, roughly comparable to gad.

      The problem with a battery swap is that it's extremely expensive and inconvenient to setup for a only handful of cars. That will be the problem in using it for consumers. But for a fleet the size of the NYC taxis, even if only 10-20% of the taxis used it the cost per taxi wouldn't be too much.

      There is a lot to be said for totally electric, but you could go with an underpowered little gas or diesel motor like the Volt to help with "corner cases".

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    2. Re:Electric Cabs by Joce640k · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Big city Taxis are perfect for compressed air technology:

      http://www.google.com/search?q=compressed+air+cars

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    3. Re:Electric Cabs by CodeBuster · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Even if they could get 20% participation from the NY cabbies the gas cabs would still have an advantage because they would not have to return to base to refuel which means more time on the prowl for additional fares while the competition is driving back and forth to base several times per day to get the battery pack changed. The gas powered cab can stop at the nearest gas station, fill up the tank, and be right back out there. The cab driver is a practical creature and will only switch to "green alternatives" if the law forces everyone, including the competition to do it, or it offers a competitive advantage over gas.

    4. Re:Electric Cabs by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The cabs all return to their garages every 12 hours. There are only under a dozen gas stations in Manhattan, amidst 2+ million people and hundreds of thousands of cars, so they refuel at garages.

      Gasoline cabs get a lot less than their rated city mileage in NYC, because they constantly accelerate and decelereate. Which probably puts them down around 15MPG tops, but which makes regenerative braking electric cars really shine. A 15 gallon tank gives them 225 miles on a tank. That's less than the 300mi an electric car gets.

      Cab drivers usually don't own their cars (which typically cost about $50K apiece after they're fitted to legal requirements). But they do pay for gas. So they'll be very happy to get cheaper mileage with less refueling stops.

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    5. Re:Electric Cabs by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 4, Interesting

      We had a huge blackout in 2005, but no riots. Instead, the whole city turned into a huge block party. People sharing barbecues on their porches with neighbors, rather than watch their refrigerators full of food go to waste. Stores gave away food towards the end of the night. The parks had bonfires and acoustic music.

      NYC has changed a lot since 1977 (though that blackout didn't really riot much, either). Several generations growing up with a social welfare system has seen us become a lot less antisocial. We'll still kick your out of towner ass for badmouthing us, but especially since 9/11/2001 we look to help each other through tough times.

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  5. 2.0 eh? by Bazman · · Score: 4, Funny

    Then I reckon they need Ajax and rounded corners. Cleaner cabs with fewer sharp edges on them. Plus they'd have to be called "yellowcbs".

  6. QoS taxi cab tagging by dave562 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I want to be able to pay extra to QoS tag my taxi cab so that it gets priority over the other traffic.

  7. Re:jkhsad ass7e bcadjh by Legrow · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Or how about a GPS system mounted in the back, where you could input the address you wanted to go to?

    It would have the added benefit of showing you the trip you were taking and your expected arrival time; it'd also give visitors a way to make sure that the cab driver isn't taking a longer way for a higher fare.

  8. How about a method for electronically hailing cabs by bigtrike · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How about a method for electronically hailing a cab?

    Part of the inefficiency taxis is that they drive around looking for fares, while interested riders may be waiting nearby but out of visual range.

    Some method of being able to hail a cab from a cel phone with built in GPS would improve the ability of cabs and customers to find each other. The technology should be fairly easy to set up, simply requiring smartphones on both the passenger and driver end and at least a couple of servers to manage the information. Costs could be paid for with advertisements or very small fees from participants.

    The biggest barrier to such a system is critical mass, which would be easy to obtain if the city simply picked an official provider of such a system.

  9. Make them waterproof. by DougWebb · · Score: 5, Funny

    They all seem to disappear when it rains, which I assume is because they can't get wet. So, they need to be waterproofed, or at least be given big umbrellas.

    Umbrellas might work, actually. The umbrella vendors pop up out of nowhere when it rains, like hibernating frogs in the desert. Maybe they could be put to good use covering up the taxis.

  10. I can't believe it... by netruner · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ok, if nobody else is going to...

    "You're in a Johnny Cab - Would you please restate the destination?"

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  11. Pay with your person device by geekoid · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Stop taking cash.
    Pay them more and remove tipping
    In Cab Wi-Fi
    Clean cabs that don't stink
    Online in Cab ratings of the Cab, company and driver.

    Free umbrellas. Big ugly orange things that get picked up and returned to the cab.

    No Radio

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  12. Electric + GPS + SmartPhone Apps + Bike Friendly by copponex · · Score: 5, Insightful

    First, make many of them electric. Two hundred mile range vehicles are possible today, and according to this, there are 800 million miles driven each year by 13,000 taxis, which is 170 miles, according to my calculator and my brain. Beware: my brain is currently on pain meds from dental work. Charge all the unused electrical capacity of the grid at night to local Taxi stations, install some flywheel charging systems or a simple battery swapping system, and it will help us develop the next generation of electric vehicle infrastructure.

    Next, equip all taxis with good GPS. Put a screen in the back so the passenger knows they're not being taken the long way or the wrong way. Use this data to calculate traffic and anticipate passenger needs based on events, weather, holidays, etc. Allow cabbies to see each other on the GPS, so they know if they are crowding certain areas unwittingly. Allow people to log into a website to see real time anonymized traffic flow information.

    Give out decent prize money for Smartphone apps that become public domain. Allow a person to stand at a street corner and hail a cab by pressing a button, or request a timed pickup with a non-refundable deposit charged to their credit card.

    And finally, make all cabs bike friendly, with a quick and secure way to attach two bikes to each one. This will allow those in a hurry to bike to work, catch a cab to a movie, and then bike home.

  13. Re:jkhsad ass7e bcadjh by Bob+Wehadababyitsabo · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is actually already done and present in all New York City cabs. http://www.google.com/search?q=nyc+taxi+gps

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  14. They've done this by weston · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There *are* vehicles that get priority over other traffic. In fact, they chain groups of cars getting this priority together for maximum efficiency, and they put in lots of seats so many people can ride in each car.

    Unfortunately, the way they solved the prioritization issue means that they only run on fixed routes throughout the city. However, there's a lot of these routes, and so most locations have one within ready walking distance. Scheduled pickup and dropoff times are usually pretty frequent. You should check it out.

  15. Re:jkhsad ass7e bcadjh by Repton · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I heard a FOAF story about a taxi driver who installed a GPS in his taxi. He'd always say to new fares: "You can have the GPS route, or you can have the route I think is best. Which do you want?"

    Many, perhaps most, people would pick the GPS ... and promptly get stuck in traffic, because it doesn't know when to avoid main roads, all the shortcuts available, etc. It paid itself off in a few weeks..

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