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NYC Wants Ideas For "Taxi Technology 2.0"

An anonymous reader writes "New York City is soliciting ideas from the public about possible technology improvements for its 13,000+ fleet of taxis. TLC (the city agency in charge of cabs) is 'seek[ing] input and information on ways to enhance the technology systems in each taxicab for the benefit of passengers, drivers and owners alike.'"

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  1. Frebreze? by AlexBirch · · Score: 5, Funny

    Seriously, I started smoking to get the cab smell off of me.

    1. Re:Frebreze? by Loki_1929 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm also in favor of enhancing the smell of NYC cabs. Either invest in something which removes all odors from all environments or possibly introduce hygiene requirements for licensed cab drivers.

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    2. Re:Frebreze? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      They need to make those little chrome urinals bigger. One isn't big enough. I usually start with the one on the door, then move to the one in the middle of the back of the front seat, then finally on to the one on the remaining door. Usually making a mess all over the back.

      Would be nice if there was a better way of opening them up too. That chrome flip top lid must get nasty. They were smart enough to make the flushing automatic (very quiet by the way) but you have to manually lift the lid. Doesn't make sense. It takes some force and snaps closed quickly, so watch out.

      Any cab I've been in, the little dime sized urinal cake holder is always empty too.

    3. Re:Frebreze? by bitrex · · Score: 4, Funny

      Reminds me of the first time I used a unisex bathroom at college, when I decided to investigate what the small aluminum boxes mounted on the sides of the stalls were for. They weren't for dispensing after dinner mints, I'll tell you that much.

    4. Re:Frebreze? by giuda · · Score: 3, Funny

      You had a bloody surprise

  2. Ozone Generator by Maniacal · · Score: 5, Insightful

    http://www.interstaterentals.net/id84.html

    Nothing worse than a smelly cab driver on a hot summers day. Eliminate odors electronically and help repair that pesky hole in the ozone while you're at it :)

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    1. Re:Ozone Generator by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      negative, ghost rider

      Even very low concentrations of ozone can be harmful to the upper respiratory tract and the lungs. The severity of injury depends on both by the concentration of ozone and the duration of exposure. Severe and permanent lung injury or death could result from even a very short-term exposure to relatively low concentrations.

    2. Re:Ozone Generator by Maniacal · · Score: 2, Funny

      Damn you and your science. I was trying to make fun of cabbies and you have to go and ruin it with all your "facts". One thing your "facts" didn't consider, maybe it's already happening. This sounds like a "factual" statement:

      Even very low concentrations of cabbie BO can be harmful to the upper respiratory tract and the lungs. The severity of injury depends on both by the concentration of cabbie BO and the duration of exposure. Severe and permanent lung injury or death could result from even a very short-term exposure to relatively low concentrations of cabbie BO.

      See. Dispute that.

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  3. jkhsad ass7e bcadjh by Roadkills-R-Us · · Score: 4, Funny

    Install translators so drivers and passengers can communicate.

  4. Electric Cabs by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Make all new taxis run on 100% electric. NYC's electric power comes 40% from nuclear (Indian Point), the rest from high-efficiency (up to 85% in CCGT) natural gas plants. The resulting switch would cut a lot of the smog remaining in our fairly green city.

    Oh yeah, make the cars amphibious so they can go around the bridges/tunnels bottlenecks that clog so much NYC traffic.

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    1. Re:Electric Cabs by girlintraining · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Hey, reality called -- electric cars take time to charge (on the order of a few hours) and they only have a range of a hundred miles or so. For vehicles like taxis with such a heavy duty cycle, you have two options: Add more cars to the fleet to compensate for the lengthy charge times, or use something that can be refuelled quickly and has range similar to gas. Natural gas-powered is the only potentially viable alternative, and at that, the fuel density is still below that of gasoline. Don't just shout "Go green!" because it's politically vogue. It also needs to be economically feasible.

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    2. Re:Electric Cabs by mariushm · · Score: 2, Informative

      I don't think electric would be a good idea, although it would be better than gas.

      The taxis would need recharging quite often and batteries would soon lose their performance and would need to be replaced. That's a lot of lithium and other heavy metals which can be recycled but they do cost a lot.

      A better alternative would be air powered cars, especially as current gas stations could be fitted easily with pressurized air pumps, filling the car's tanks in about 5-10 minutes, at the same time they are filled with regular fuel.

      See this page or go directly to this design which looks quite OK for a taxi, having both air and petrol, with up to about 1000 miles of range (using both air or regular fuel).

      The 13.000 euro price (about $17k) will most likely drop a lot if they get big orders - and who knows, maybe they'd be willing to create a start-up in US, with US employees.

    3. Re:Electric Cabs by MBCook · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Actually for something as common as a NYC taxi, a battery swap setup could work VERY well. Drive into a little garage, they slide out your old battery pack and slide in a new one. Total time? A few minutes, roughly comparable to gad.

      The problem with a battery swap is that it's extremely expensive and inconvenient to setup for a only handful of cars. That will be the problem in using it for consumers. But for a fleet the size of the NYC taxis, even if only 10-20% of the taxis used it the cost per taxi wouldn't be too much.

      There is a lot to be said for totally electric, but you could go with an underpowered little gas or diesel motor like the Volt to help with "corner cases".

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    4. Re:Electric Cabs by Joce640k · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Big city Taxis are perfect for compressed air technology:

      http://www.google.com/search?q=compressed+air+cars

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    5. Re:Electric Cabs by CodeBuster · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Even if they could get 20% participation from the NY cabbies the gas cabs would still have an advantage because they would not have to return to base to refuel which means more time on the prowl for additional fares while the competition is driving back and forth to base several times per day to get the battery pack changed. The gas powered cab can stop at the nearest gas station, fill up the tank, and be right back out there. The cab driver is a practical creature and will only switch to "green alternatives" if the law forces everyone, including the competition to do it, or it offers a competitive advantage over gas.

    6. Re:Electric Cabs by Dallas+Caley · · Score: 2, Interesting

      As a former cab driver i can attest to that fact, electric simply will not work, and neither will natural gas. When i used to drive i would put in an average of 400-450 miles in a 24 hour shift. now with gas that means i had to fill up 2-3 times a day because you never want to be below half a tank (in case you get a long fare) When i switched to natural gas i had to fill up 5-6 times a day which was extremely annoying because in my area (orange county, CA) there are only about 6 natural gas pumps

      I don't know about New York, but if its the same as my area, the single best thing that they could do to improve just about everything is charge a reasonable rate to lease a cab (to the driver) for a time period under 24 hours. Do you realize how F-ing crazy you go when you drive for 24 hours straight? and believe me if you do not drive for 24 hours straight then you will make less than minimum wage. It is absolutely rediculus. The taxi cab industry may not be run by a mafia, but it might as well be.

      Side note (to the management of Yellow Cab of Orange county), BURN IN H*LL!! i will never EVER come back to your company, (as you insisted i would) i learned how to do something (IT/web) and now i make literally 5 times as much as i used to so screw off!

    7. Re:Electric Cabs by rm999 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "Make all new taxis run on 100% electric"

      That's what I call a "politician's idea": it sounds good on paper, but would be a failure. Here are the problems:
      * Electrical cars cost a lot. Someone will pay for them, potentially the cab drivers themselves because NYC fixes cab prices.
      * Batteries have a limited number of charge cycles, and after a few 100 charges the capacity will be noticeably less. In hybrids this is OK because the gas engine will just work a bit more, but in cabs this will require more frequent charges, and ultimately costly replacements (a new Tesla battery is estimated to be between 10-15,000 dollars). Battery replacements will have an environmental impact.
      * A battery charge takes several hours (in the best case scenario: there is a charging station that can provide at least 75 watts throughput). If a cab driver exceeds the electrical range early (let's say 200 miles of hauling passengers), he's done for the day.
      * Batteries take up a lot of trunk space because they have a significantly lower energy density than gasoline. Cabs that go to the airport won't be able to fit much luggage.

    8. Re:Electric Cabs by moosesocks · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Adding a small wrinkle to the problem is that NYC's electric grid is extremely taxed.

      Although you'd be able to do clever things such as charging the batteries during off-peak hours, electrifying the taxi fleet would contribute even further to brownouts during the summer months.

      Granted, these problems can all be fixed. However, it's a bit more involved than you might imagine.

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    9. Re:Electric Cabs by CityZen · · Score: 2, Funny

      If, instead of a horn button, they had to crank a generator to honk, it would certainly extend the range considerably, or perhaps make the city a quieter place to live, either of which is an improvement.

    10. Re:Electric Cabs by LackThereof · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Even though most NYC taxis are in use 24 hrs/day, the drivers are not. Taxis already have to return to base at least 3 times a day to switch drivers. Just switch batteries when you switch drivers.

      The catch would be getting a car company to invest in building these things, when they're going only going to sell a few thousand a year. Sure there's 13,000 cabs in New York, but they're only replaced at 3 year intervals. Most other metro areas allow much older cabs, and don't have nearly as many.

      This is why Checker Motors went under in the 80's - there is just no way to sell enough taxicabs in America to pay for the R&D costs, not to mention factory tooling. The incremental design and tooling updates required to keep up with current safety and emissions regulations, not to mention ever-changing customer expectations, completely kill the business model.

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    11. Re:Electric Cabs by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The cabs all return to their garages every 12 hours. There are only under a dozen gas stations in Manhattan, amidst 2+ million people and hundreds of thousands of cars, so they refuel at garages.

      Gasoline cabs get a lot less than their rated city mileage in NYC, because they constantly accelerate and decelereate. Which probably puts them down around 15MPG tops, but which makes regenerative braking electric cars really shine. A 15 gallon tank gives them 225 miles on a tank. That's less than the 300mi an electric car gets.

      Cab drivers usually don't own their cars (which typically cost about $50K apiece after they're fitted to legal requirements). But they do pay for gas. So they'll be very happy to get cheaper mileage with less refueling stops.

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    12. Re:Electric Cabs by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 2, Interesting

      In fact recharging the batteries at night, when electricity is only 50% the cost as during the day, is a big plus for this app, and practically all garages would do it.

      NYC's grid is taxed only in a few areas, and then only when super humid days make air conditioners crank hard in super hot days. That peak is so huge that the rest of the days, anywhere from 350-365 a year, have a lot of excess capacity without the peak air conditioner demand.

      And possibly the best way to recharge electric car batteries is with onsite natural gas to electric fuelcells. 12,00 NYC cabs would be a great market to boost demand to drive that segment of the industry forward.

      But we're going to have to increase the grid anyway, as more and more cars and other equipment will use electric here. This is a good way to start, a known quantity in known locations already regulated by the City.

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    13. Re:Electric Cabs by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 4, Interesting

      We had a huge blackout in 2005, but no riots. Instead, the whole city turned into a huge block party. People sharing barbecues on their porches with neighbors, rather than watch their refrigerators full of food go to waste. Stores gave away food towards the end of the night. The parks had bonfires and acoustic music.

      NYC has changed a lot since 1977 (though that blackout didn't really riot much, either). Several generations growing up with a social welfare system has seen us become a lot less antisocial. We'll still kick your out of towner ass for badmouthing us, but especially since 9/11/2001 we look to help each other through tough times.

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    14. Re:Electric Cabs by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No, a "politician's idea" is the kind like yours that don't even take into account the other comments posted before it which debunk it.

      NYC cabs are bought by the fleet, not the driver. The cabs typically cost about $50K or more when up to legal requirements. A new Prius costs abour $30K. The driver does pay for fuel, so the cheaper electric would save the drivers money, and make the overall business better.

      Electric car batteries don't suffer from batteries wearing out so fast. But all cars wear out. Gasoline cars require a lot more servicing to their violently active parts.

      Batteries can be swapped in and out at the garage instead of refueling with gas when they return as NYC cabs currently do (nearly no gas stations in Manhattan).

      NYC cabs almost never use their trunks. But there's no reason the electric cars can't have good trunks. Current models of the size we'd use for cabs don't suffer from that limitation.

      You evidently are talking about a different NYC and different battery car tech than actually exists, while being smug and conceited about it. You should run for office.

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    15. Re:Electric Cabs by moosesocks · · Score: 2, Interesting

      No big deal. It's been too long since they had a good blackout riot there, anyway.

      I actually quite liked the 2003 blackout. Stargazing in Central Park was incredible.

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    16. Re:Electric Cabs by CodeBuster · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I will concede that this probably true for Manhattan, which being a ~23 square mile area with at least 1.5 million residents, is a special case. However, in Los Angeles, for example, where everything is much more spread out and gas stations are everywhere the advantages of the gas cab come more into play. Why not a hybrid you ask? Well, there are specialized cab companies which field the Toyota Prius for cab duty out here in California, but they cost more to hire, don't carry as much luggage, and generally do not hold as many people. People tend to expect a large, late-model American full-sized sedan (or saloon to you Europeans) car when traveling by cab (i.e. the Ford Crown Victoria, the Chevrolet Caprice, or for higher end service the Lincoln Town Car). The hybrid cab market is a niche. As other posters have noted, the most common (and only really feasible) alternative choice to gasoline is Natural Gas which, following a surge of interest with the high gas prices preceding the meltdown, has returned once more to its niche status.

    17. Re:Electric Cabs by Fred_A · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Hey, reality called -- electric cars take time to charge (on the order of a few hours) and they only have a range of a hundred miles or so.

      Nah, every other day we get an article right here about this new battery design that charges in minutes and yet we never see them on the market.
      Obviously there is a secret plot by highly organized taxi drivers who don't want to invest in new cars and who suppress new technology (if you work in energy research, remember never to take a cab).

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    18. Re:Electric Cabs by Gropo · · Score: 2, Funny

      Take a note: New Yorkers who rely on trains and cabs shouldn't claim authority on "reality" either. Leave that to us New Yorkers who commute by bike 12 miles a day ;D

      Here's an interesting thought: thousands of guys who learned to drive on the insane streets of Mumbai/Colombo/Nairobi now driving ultra-silent electric vehicles so I can't hear them screaming up behind me to cut me off when turning a right (without use of a directional signal, naturally.)

      I say the sooner New Yorkers stop being over-priveleged babies that need to be chauffeured around, the happier we'll all be.

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  5. 2.0 eh? by Bazman · · Score: 4, Funny

    Then I reckon they need Ajax and rounded corners. Cleaner cabs with fewer sharp edges on them. Plus they'd have to be called "yellowcbs".

  6. It's got nothing to do with the engine by jfengel · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you read the RFI, it makes clear that they're not talking about the motive power of the taxicab. They're looking to upgrade the "in-taxi experience".

    For comparison, they cite the ability to pay with credit cards and the "Passenger Information Monitor (PIM) with payment screen, live map, and various content", which they put in all taxis after the last round.

    They're also hoping to improve things for drivers and the fleet, like better ways to get available drivers to where there are passengers to be picked up.

    I think they want an idea like this: use your phone (and its built-in GPS) to summon a cab, without the tedious standing-in-the-street phase. Cabs go to where people need rides, rather than guessing.

  7. Touch Sceen and Pay System by QuantumG · · Score: 2, Informative

    Add a Multi-touch Screen in the back with Google Maps or something similar, and support multiple languages. Provide status updates of where you are, what route is being taken, and how long it will take to get to your destination. The system can also provide tourist information and, yes, advertising. There should be no need to speak with the driver. This will ease the transition to driverless taxis, once that technology becomes available.

    Introduce a "taxi-card" smartcard payment system.. but also accept cash and credit cards. They can do this at the supermarket, I don't see why they can't do it in the back of a taxi.

    Provide an online booking system for taxis and, ya know, actually show up when you say you will.

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  8. QoS taxi cab tagging by dave562 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I want to be able to pay extra to QoS tag my taxi cab so that it gets priority over the other traffic.

  9. Re:Ask Brad Templeton, Chairman of EFF by jonwil · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Never happen. The moment the taxi authority even starts to think about driverless cabs, you will get EVERY taxi driver in NYC walking off the job (causing chaos) or worse, using their cabs to block up the streets or blockading the authorities office or both.

  10. Crazy Taxi by V50 · · Score: 3, Funny

    If there's one thing I learned from all my years of playing Crazy Taxi on the Dreamcast, it's that customers will tip more if you nearly get them killed.

    I say, let all the taxi drivers play Crazy Taxi for a week, then get back to driving cabs with their new skills. It's bound to get results.

  11. Suggestion: Customer experience by Chairboy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Technically, the cabs are already great at what they do. They quickly and reasonably cheaply (considering) get you from point A to B. But the biggest problems I've had with cabs have had less to do with tech than human factors.

    For example: Advertisements. Someone thought it would be a good idea to fill cabs with loudspeakers and screens that subject the passenger to one-way advertisements. I'm annoyed by this because A: It's unpleasant to be so aggressively marketed to and B: I didn't think of it first. If there was a way to equip cabs w/ a basic data terminal that used GPS to bring up relevant data regarding where I was (or services near my destination), that would be brilliant.

    Also, the credit-card issue is slowly being addressed. It's gotten much better, but everyone still runs into some cabbie who makes a big show about pulling a manual card-swipe out of the trunk. Give me a debit-style terminal in the back seat like a freakin' grocery store.

    Instead of political issues like electric cabs, let's see an improvement on the end-user experience. The rest will happen on their own as business owners start seeing a financial advantage.

  12. Happy Horizontal People Transporter by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Automate them with artificial intelligence and give them defocused temporal perception so that they're always ready to pick you up even before you know you wanted one.

    Make the interior stainless steel and have it go through an internal wash and rinse cycle at the conclusion of every trip as there will always be people excreting various unwanted solids, fluids, and gases inside.

    Share and Enjoy.

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  13. Re:jkhsad ass7e bcadjh by jd · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If the TARDIS couldn't translate the language of the Beast on the Impossible Planet, what makes you think any human-designed translator could manage the feat?

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  14. Re:jkhsad ass7e bcadjh by Legrow · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Or how about a GPS system mounted in the back, where you could input the address you wanted to go to?

    It would have the added benefit of showing you the trip you were taking and your expected arrival time; it'd also give visitors a way to make sure that the cab driver isn't taking a longer way for a higher fare.

  15. How about a method for electronically hailing cabs by bigtrike · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How about a method for electronically hailing a cab?

    Part of the inefficiency taxis is that they drive around looking for fares, while interested riders may be waiting nearby but out of visual range.

    Some method of being able to hail a cab from a cel phone with built in GPS would improve the ability of cabs and customers to find each other. The technology should be fairly easy to set up, simply requiring smartphones on both the passenger and driver end and at least a couple of servers to manage the information. Costs could be paid for with advertisements or very small fees from participants.

    The biggest barrier to such a system is critical mass, which would be easy to obtain if the city simply picked an official provider of such a system.

  16. Make them waterproof. by DougWebb · · Score: 5, Funny

    They all seem to disappear when it rains, which I assume is because they can't get wet. So, they need to be waterproofed, or at least be given big umbrellas.

    Umbrellas might work, actually. The umbrella vendors pop up out of nowhere when it rains, like hibernating frogs in the desert. Maybe they could be put to good use covering up the taxis.

  17. I can't believe it... by netruner · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ok, if nobody else is going to...

    "You're in a Johnny Cab - Would you please restate the destination?"

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  18. Pay with your person device by geekoid · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Stop taking cash.
    Pay them more and remove tipping
    In Cab Wi-Fi
    Clean cabs that don't stink
    Online in Cab ratings of the Cab, company and driver.

    Free umbrellas. Big ugly orange things that get picked up and returned to the cab.

    No Radio

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  19. So make Taxi 2.0 a rickshaw by tomhudson · · Score: 2, Funny
    This way, not only will you not be burning hydrocarbons ( "burn, carbohydrates, not hydrocarbons" ) you'll have the "lovely" smell of NY to breathe ... and when you take a ride to New Jersey ...

    For extra revenue, hook up with a fat farm or fitness club and CHARGE people to pull the rickshaws ...

    1. Re:So make Taxi 2.0 a rickshaw by BluBrick · · Score: 2, Funny

      Wait, wait, wait! You want to make NY cabbies sweat more?

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    2. Re:So make Taxi 2.0 a rickshaw by tomhudson · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Ah, grasshopper, with a rickshaw, you won't have to worry about rolling down the windows ... and this way, everyone else can "share the fragrance."

      Okay, instead of a rickshaw, how about an electric-assist pedal-cab? Still open, so the smell doesn't concentrate, and the operator won't sweat quite as much.

  20. That's an easy one... by parachutepenguin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    $$$$ 13,000 Cash Cabs $$$$

    Cash Cab

  21. Electric + GPS + SmartPhone Apps + Bike Friendly by copponex · · Score: 5, Insightful

    First, make many of them electric. Two hundred mile range vehicles are possible today, and according to this, there are 800 million miles driven each year by 13,000 taxis, which is 170 miles, according to my calculator and my brain. Beware: my brain is currently on pain meds from dental work. Charge all the unused electrical capacity of the grid at night to local Taxi stations, install some flywheel charging systems or a simple battery swapping system, and it will help us develop the next generation of electric vehicle infrastructure.

    Next, equip all taxis with good GPS. Put a screen in the back so the passenger knows they're not being taken the long way or the wrong way. Use this data to calculate traffic and anticipate passenger needs based on events, weather, holidays, etc. Allow cabbies to see each other on the GPS, so they know if they are crowding certain areas unwittingly. Allow people to log into a website to see real time anonymized traffic flow information.

    Give out decent prize money for Smartphone apps that become public domain. Allow a person to stand at a street corner and hail a cab by pressing a button, or request a timed pickup with a non-refundable deposit charged to their credit card.

    And finally, make all cabs bike friendly, with a quick and secure way to attach two bikes to each one. This will allow those in a hurry to bike to work, catch a cab to a movie, and then bike home.

  22. London Cabs by pommiekiwifruit · · Score: 3, Interesting

    When I visited New York and Los Angeles I noticed they have some sort of reverse TARDIS technology going on with their cabs - huge on the outside, with the turning radius of an oil tanker, but tiny on the inside, with my knees scraping against the seat (and I am a short guy). Why not make the car smaller on the outside and bigger on the inside, like London cabs? You can even buy some of the older models (e.g. the TXII) in the USA now...

  23. Re:jkhsad ass7e bcadjh by Bob+Wehadababyitsabo · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is actually already done and present in all New York City cabs. http://www.google.com/search?q=nyc+taxi+gps

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  24. They've done this by weston · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There *are* vehicles that get priority over other traffic. In fact, they chain groups of cars getting this priority together for maximum efficiency, and they put in lots of seats so many people can ride in each car.

    Unfortunately, the way they solved the prioritization issue means that they only run on fixed routes throughout the city. However, there's a lot of these routes, and so most locations have one within ready walking distance. Scheduled pickup and dropoff times are usually pretty frequent. You should check it out.

  25. Re:jkhsad ass7e bcadjh by Repton · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I heard a FOAF story about a taxi driver who installed a GPS in his taxi. He'd always say to new fares: "You can have the GPS route, or you can have the route I think is best. Which do you want?"

    Many, perhaps most, people would pick the GPS ... and promptly get stuck in traffic, because it doesn't know when to avoid main roads, all the shortcuts available, etc. It paid itself off in a few weeks..

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  26. Re:jkhsad ass7e bcadjh by ilovegeorgebush · · Score: 3, Interesting

    All official NYC cabs have a TV screen in the back that have a map of your route. I got back from there on Tuesday.

  27. Re:How about... by SEWilco · · Score: 2, Funny

    Optional?

  28. Re:jkhsad ass7e bcadjh by rvw · · Score: 2, Informative

    Many, perhaps most, people would pick the GPS ... and promptly get stuck in traffic, because it doesn't know when to avoid main roads, all the shortcuts available, etc. It paid itself off in a few weeks..

    TomTom and Vodafone have a service that monitors traffic. The GPS device takes another route based on that information. I don't know how it would work out if everybody would use it.

  29. Re:jkhsad ass7e bcadjh by Yvanhoe · · Score: 2, Interesting
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