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Is Your Mood a Result of Where You Live?

Ed writes "Apparently, the Centers for Disease Control released a study indicating that geography can have a significant impact on mood. You may not be surprised to learn that Kentucky is more depressing than Hawaii. However, ranking up there with Hawaii are Minnesota, the Dakotas and Wisconsin. Frustratingly, they have not yet published the study on the web, so it is left as an exercise for the reader to find the original study and post a link for the rest of us."

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  1. Hmmm ... by Xaemyl · · Score: 4, Funny

    Live in a crappy neighborhood makes for crappy moods? Lemme be the first to tell the CDC: DUUUH!

    1. Re:Hmmm ... by aliquis · · Score: 5, Funny

      Since crappy neighborhood probably mean you are there for a reason, such as unemployed / low income and such, yes.

      Personally I live in Sweden and the lack of light and low d-vitamine levels probably don't help much either.

      That and virgin at 30.

    2. Re:Hmmm ... by BeanThere · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yeah. I recently moved from a crummy polluted inland rat-race city to a beautiful coastal more relaxed and cleaner well-run city, and everyone told me crap like "if you're not happy here, you're not going to be happy there, because your problems are internal" ... well, surprise, I *am* a lot happier. Much happier. Haven't missed the old place (though I lived there over 30 years) for one minute. And I almost believed those idiots.

    3. Re:Hmmm ... by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Still, even in what the popular consensus holds to be the happiest of places, the following quotation could still apply:

      Ursa Minor is almost certainly the most appalling place in the universe. Though it is excruciatingly rich, horrifyingly sunny and more full of wonderfully exciting people than a pomegranate is of pips, it can hardly be insignificant that when a recent edition of the magazine Play-Being headlined an article with the words "When You Are Tired of Ursa Minor You Are Tired of Life" the suicide rate in the constellation quadrupled overnight.

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    4. Re:Hmmm ... by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Live in a crappy neighborhood makes for crappy moods? Lemme be the first to tell the CDC: DUUUH!

      I don't know how many times I've read of someone discovering a self-reenforcing feedback loop of one kind or another and reporting it as a hitherto unknown and insightful fact.

      Life, as many people have spotted, is, of course, terribly unfair. For instance, the first time the Heart of Gold ever crossed the galaxy the massive improbability field it generated caused two hundred and thirty-nine thousand lightly-fried eggs to materialize in a large, wobbly heap on the famine-struck land of Poghril in the Pansel system. The whole Poghril tribe had just died out from famine, except for one man who died of cholesterol-poisoning some weeks later.

      The Poghrils, always a pessimistic race, had a little riddle, the asking of which used to give them the only tiny twinges of pleasure they ever experienced. One Poghril would ask another Poghril, "Why is life like hanging upside down with your head in a bucket of hyena offal?" to which the second Poghril would reply, "I don't know, why is life like hanging upside down with your head in a bucket of hyena offal?" to which the first Poghril would reply, "I don't know either. Wretched, isn't it?"

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    5. Re:Hmmm ... by Nutria · · Score: 4, Funny

      Personally I live in Sweden and ... virgin at 30.

      But Anheuser-Busch says that all Swedish babes are hot and will jump in bed with you if you drink Bud-wei-ser?

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    6. Re:Hmmm ... by BeanThere · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hehe ... you should've seen me before!

    7. Re:Hmmm ... by Lucidus · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Let's see - you describe this girl as "ass" the first you see her, and after helping her on her way, you wonder whether you should have asked for a blow job. I don't want to be cruel, but this is deeply fucked up, and it is now at least partly apparent why you are still a virgin.

      No, you should not have asked for a BJ, and no, it would not have been "the normal male thing to do." Thinking about it, sure; asking, absolutely not.

      BTW, being a virgin at 30 is not, in itself, a bad thing, but still being a virgin many years after reaching the decision that you are ready for sex - that is unfortunate.

      Seriously, though, there are some really important things that you obviously don't get, at all, and you need more help than you are going to find on Slashdot. Please talk to someone. Best of luck.

  2. Here is a better story. by arizwebfoot · · Score: 5, Informative
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    1. Re:Here is a better story. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      My university network has fulltext access to the journal. The journal article doesn't seem to be available yet, but the publisher's press release is. From the Dread Publisher Elsevier:

      San Diego, CA, 14 April 2009 - Frequent Mental Distress (FMD), defined as having 14 or more days in the previous month when stress, depression and emotional problems were not good , is not evenly distributed across the United States. In fact, certain geographic areas have consistently high or consistently low FMD incidence, as shown in a study published in the June 2009 issue of the American Journal of Preventive Medicine.

      Combining data from annual large-scale surveys in 1993-2001 and 2003-2006 by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, researchers found that the adult prevalence of FMD was 9.4% overall, ranging from 6.6% in Hawaii to 14.4% in Kentucky. FMD prevalence varied both over time and by geographic area within states. From the earlier period to the later period, the mean prevalence of FMD increased by at least 1 percentage point in 27 states and by more than 4 percentage points in Mississippi, Oklahoma and West Virginia. The Appalachian and the Mississippi Valley regions had high and increasing FMD prevalence, and the upper Midwest had low and decreasing FMD prevalence.

      The state-based Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System (BRFSS) has asked questions about mental health since 1993 and collects data from random telephone surveys of adult residents across the U.S. More than 1.2 million people were surveyed in each of the two periods. FMD prevalence was determined by county, and the results were smoothed to reduce variation from random sampling due to small sample sizes in less populous counties.

      For the 1993-2001 period, the smoothed FMD prevalence was less than 8% in 31.8% of the 3112 counties analyzed and was 12.0% in 4.8% of the counties. For the 2003-2006 period, the smoothed FMD prevalence was "Because FMD often indicates potentially unmet health and social service needs, programs for public health, community mental health and social services whose jurisdictions include areas with high FMD levels should collaborate to identify and eliminate the specific preventable sources of this distress," said Dr. Matthew M. Zack, the study's lead investigator. "With the growing scientific literature linking FMD to treatable mental illnesses and preventable mental health problems, the increased use of these surveillance data in community mental health decision making is especially warranted. The continued surveillance of mental distress may help these programs to identify unmet needs and disparities, to focus their policies and interventions and to evaluate their performance over time."

      The article is "Geographic Patterns of Frequent Mental Distress: U.S. Adults, 1993-2001 and 2003-2006" by David G. Moriarty, BS, Matthew M. Zack, MD, MPH, James B. Holt, PhD, Daniel P. Chapman, PhD, MSc and Marc A. Safran, MD, MPA, DFAPA, FACPM. It appears in the American Journal of Preventive Medicine, Volume 36, Issue 6 (June 2009) published by Elsevier.

    2. Re:Here is a better story. by ep32g79 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Full text and larger pictures here

  3. My mood? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As soon as I hear a fucking moron with 5000W of "boom-boom-boom" noise coming my way, my blood pressure goes up.

    We got laws against noisy car exhausts but no laws against braindead, anti-social psychopaths who annoy everyone in a 3 miles radius with their loud so-called music.

    I'm getting my gun.

    1. Re:My mood? by MyLongNickName · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Except that I don't mind hearing normal sounds outside. Kids playing. Birds chirping. Folks talking. But the unemployed teenager who somehow can get a $5,000 sound system into his $500 chevy... That I don't want to hear.

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    2. Re:My mood? by maugle · · Score: 4, Funny

      xkcd has a better solution to your problem.

    3. Re:My mood? by Mordok-DestroyerOfWo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm quite happy living in Texas 10 months out of the year. July and August can go to hell. I doubt it's about where you live more than it's about how you live. I'd rather live in a mansion with everything I've ever wanted in north Alaska than be a minimum wage cubicle jockey in Hawaii or Southern California.

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    4. Re:My mood? by nametaken · · Score: 4, Funny

      Jesus. Sounds like you win the "most depressed" award in a thread about depression.

  4. My wife lives in the same place I do by syousef · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...not in post natal PMS Hells-ville, so I don't think the article quite holds.

    If you're reading this honey, just kidding! Love you! Let's go shopping for an eternity ring... ;-)

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  5. Hm, I dunno. by aztektum · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I moved FROM Wisconsin to Oregon 5 years ago and I have to say my life is far more diverse now, far more cheery. When I deal with people from "back home" they don't seem to be happy so much as living in willful ignorance.

    I guess what I'm saying is my anecdotal experience is that people in the "more depressed" regions are more aware of their true mood and perhaps answer more honestly because of it?

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    1. Re:Hm, I dunno. by Kell+Bengal · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That summarises my experience with many people in the US. They are convinced that their country, their way of doing things, their existence is the ultimate mode of being. Having come here from Australia, I can tell you that there is plenty of room for improvement; it seems that they believe they have/are the best of everything simply because they've never looked (let alone lived) outside of their own backyard.

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    2. Re:Hm, I dunno. by Malc · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Have you considered that perhaps there's a difference between people who stay in one place all their lives, and those that migrate to somewhere else? I'd never go back to where I'm from, even though I know people who are happy there, and it's supposed to be one of the better parts of the country to live in. Except for the ones who've taken charge of their lives (a minority), they all seem to make mountains out of molehills over issues that I think are non-starters these days.

      As somebody's who taken charge of your life and moved somewhere else, you've already proven a different mindset to those back where you came from. Furthermore, you're probably meeting people more akin to your current mindset, so your world is already an easier or different place to cope with.

      There's something to be said for troubles being internal and relocating with you. But when you relocate, you have to build your life up again and sometimes you learn new behaviours or break out of bad habits or ruts. You're definitely more open to change when you move environments, which I think is key to a healthy life. Those who resist change or try to control it are doomed to struggle and perhaps unhappiness.

    3. Re:Hm, I dunno. by Bayoudegradeable · · Score: 4, Insightful

      SO TRUE. How many Americans have lived somewhere else? How do they know they are #1 at everything? Seriously, what does it mean to be a "proud American" if the only thing many (not all) Americans did was frickin' show up in the delivery room? Where is the achievement to cause pride? Immigrants that bust their ass and EARN citzenship; they have much to be proud of.

      That said. I agree with what many have said, "No shit!" Live in area with boom-boom cars, crack and meth problems, murder rates through the roof, recovering from a hurricane or two, broken public education system, corrupt politicians... yeah, that SHOULD affect your mood. When I lived in a medium Japanese city on the Sea of Japan at the foot of the Tateyama Range I had the best two years of my life. One of the greatest joys was not being worried about being car-jacked, mugged or hit up for spare change from the omnipresent crack-heads of the city where I live. Go figure, improve scenery, safety and quality of life and mood goes up, too. Mod researchers +5 Duh.

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    4. Re:Hm, I dunno. by socrplayr813 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I would say it's not so much about size as it is about access. US Americans can't easily travel to other countries. That means your average Joe off the street has no need for a foreign language in his daily life and his exposure to foreign cultures will be extremely limited. It's unfortunate, but there's not much that can be done about it.

      That said, the US has developed distinct cultures within its borders that are likely not obvious to the rest of the world. Though they all speak (more or less) the same language, their values and priorities can be as different as any two countries in Europe or Asia.

      Whether you buy what I said or not, I would hardly call it suffering. It's just different from what you know.

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  6. Sounds about right by dave562 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I live in Southern California. A few years ago I went to stay with some family in Milwaukee. I was there for about a week and one of the things that I noticed was how much more relaxed everyone was. The pace of life was really different. People seemed to take their time getting places and nobody really seemed to be in a big hurry to get anywhere. When waiting in line at places, there wasn't an urgency to get to the front. People took the time to talk to each other. It seemed like for the most part nobody had anything else better to do, and they were all living in the moment.

    I had an interesting experience when I got back to LA. After I got off of the plane, I was walking through the airport at Wisconson speed and seemed like people were hurrying by me. None the less, my mind was still in vacation mode and I was enjoying the tranquil feeling that was still with me. I got my car out of the parking lot and proceeded to drive home. As soon as I had to merge onto the freeway, I felt the rush of the rest of the world catch up with me. All of a sudden my brain kicked into high gear. It was like a survival mechanism. There was no way I could deal with the 405 freeway while in the Wisconson mindset.

    Conversely, I know people who have grown up in Southern California who then leave and hate where they end up. Almost universally, those who leave and miss California all say almost the same thing. "Everything here is too slow. There isn't enough to do." Personally, I can't wait to get out of here. I think the pace of life here sucks.

  7. Re:Not that hard to find the actual paper by proctor · · Score: 5, Informative

    That's not it. That's an older article without the state breakdowns. I've not found a legal open link to this paper (about publicly funded research...mutter) but the site in which it resides is http://www.ajpm-online.net/

    The lead researcher is a Mathew M Zack, who is not listed in this older pdf.

    On the upside, I did find that the CDC makes the data on which this new paper is based freely available here: http://apps.nccd.cdc.gov/HRQOL/
    with a prettier but less depression specific version here:
    http://www.cdc.gov/hrqol/findings.htm

  8. From "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance": by weston · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "Lonely people back in town. I saw it in the supermarket and at the Laundromat and when we checked out from the motel. These pickup campers through the redwoods, full of lonely retired people looking at trees on their way to look at the ocean. You catch it in the first fraction of a glance from a new face...that searching look...then it's gone.

    We see much more of this loneliness now. It's paradoxical that where people are the most closely crowded, in the big coastal cities in the East and West, the loneliness is the greatest. Back where people were so spread out in western Oregon and Idaho and Montana and the Dakotas you'd think the loneliness would have been greater, but we didn't see it so much.

    The explanation, I suppose, is that the physical distance between people has nothing to do with loneliness. It's psychic distance, and in Montana and Idaho the physical distances are big but the psychic distances between people are small, and here it's reversed.

    It's the primary America we're in. It hit the night before last in Prineville Junction and it's been with us ever since. There's this primary America of freeways and jet flights and TV and movie spectaculars. And people caught up in this primary America seem to go through huge portions of their lives without much consciousness of what's immediately around them. The media have convinced them that what's right around them is unimportant. And that's why they're lonely. You see it in their faces. First the little flicker of searching, and then when they look at you, you're just a kind of an object. You don't count. You're not what they're looking for. You're not on TV.

    But in the secondary America we've been through, of back roads, and Chinaman's ditches, and Appaloosa horses, and sweeping mountain ranges, and meditative thoughts, and kids with pinecones and bumblebees and open sky above us mile after mile after mile, all through that, what was real, what was around us dominated. And so there wasn't much feeling of loneliness. That's the way it must have been a hundred or two hundred years ago. Hardly any people and hardly any loneliness. I'm undoubtedly over-generalizing, but if the proper qualifications were introduced it would be true..."