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US Military Issuing iPod Touches To Soldiers

644bd346996 writes "Newsweek has an article about the latest weapons in the US military's arsenal. The iPod Touch and the iPhone are being adapted as general purpose handhelds for soldiers in the field. 'Apple gadgets are proving to be surprisingly versatile. Software developers and the US Department of Defense are developing military software for iPods that enables soldiers to display aerial video from drones and have teleconferences with intelligence agents halfway across the globe. Snipers in Iraq and Afghanistan now use a "ballistics calculator" called BulletFlight, made by the Florida firm Knight's Armament for the iPod Touch and iPhone. Army researchers are developing applications to turn an iPod into a remote control for a bomb-disposal robot (tilting the iPod steers the robot). In Sudan, American military observers are using iPods to learn the appropriate etiquette for interacting with tribal leaders.'"

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  1. The real question is.... by Whiney+Mac+Fanboy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The real question is: are the military funded applications sold through the Appstore? Or is the US army jail breaking their phones? Or is Apple providing the military special unlocked iPhones?

    Perhaps Apple should consider rerunning their 'think different' campaign - this time with a sniper rather than Ghandi.

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    1. Re:The real question is.... by Mr.+Roadkill · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The real question is: are the military funded applications sold through the Appstore? Or is the US army jail breaking their phones? Or is Apple providing the military special unlocked iPhones?

      Actually, I'd bet that Apple are providing the military with special phones that are locked to an "Apps Depot" where the military can make available special apps they've sanctioned. You don't want a piece of military hardware able to run any old dodgy thing sold through the app store, and you equally don't want the machine unlocked and potentially vulnerable when the soldiers install the latest piece of iPorn for Unlocked Phones that hits the bazaars. Remember the pirate DVDs/VCDs with viruses and rootkits and all kinds of other goodness on them that went through military laptops a while back?

    2. Re:The real question is.... by EvilIdler · · Score: 5, Informative

      Apple has an enterprise program. You buy the $299 dev licence, and you can install to your own company/platoon/whatever's devices.

    3. Re:The real question is.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Seems to me like an ARM processor joke would have been more appropriate, something along the lines of: "I heard they got their iPhone processors from the... ARMory"

    4. Re:The real question is.... by p0tat03 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Er... You know that Apple officially supports "Enterprise apps" on iPhone? Which is to say, privately developed apps available on an intranet "App Store". The bonus here is also that these apps do not require Apple approval, just the appropriate develpment licenses.

      Next time do a little research before getting sarcastic.

    5. Re:The real question is.... by YayaY · · Score: 5, Funny

      thanks, I'll be playing Tetris behind enemy line.

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    6. Re:The real question is.... by Old97 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm a Gandhi loving, walking and public transport (though a Prius would be O.K. if I had to drive), latte (no cream, please) sipping, Bush hating guy and I think this is great. I'm also an Army vet with an intel and law enforcement background. Did I mention that I'm also a big Obama supporter? Take your stereotypes and shove them where the sun don't shine (on your body).

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    7. Re:The real question is.... by thousandinone · · Score: 5, Funny

      shove them where the sun don't shine (on your body)

      Could you be more specific? This is slashdot, remember.

    8. Re:The real question is.... by Shadow+of+Eternity · · Score: 5, Funny

      You must be new to the internet. Anyone that's seen the Goatse man knows that the sun can in fact shine there.

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    9. Re:The real question is.... by Old97 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm a Gandhi loving,

      There's not many who truly love Gandhi & respect his teachings who see militarisation of an entertainment device as 'great'.

      I don't see that as in consistent. I don't agree that Gandhi's approach works everywhere with everyone under all circumstances. His approach of passive resistance works best when confronting a nation of people who see themselves as civilized and decent so it worked against the British. Martin Luther King used Gandhi's approach in the U.S. and that worked well. If the Irish Catholics' resistance to Britain followed Gandhi instead of the IRA, the troubles would have ended sooner and more easily. If the Palestinians used Gandhi's approach against Israel instead of following the PLO there might now be one secular state where people of all denominations were equal.

      I don't think Gandhi would have been successful against Hitler or Stalin or Mao. They would have killed him and moved on. There is a time for fighting.

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  2. The EULA by Norsefire · · Score: 5, Interesting

    You also agree that you will not use these products for any purposes prohibited by United States law, including, without limitation, the development, design, manufacture or production of missiles, or nuclear, chemical or biological weapons.

    We've all had a good laugh at that clause but they may actually be close to breaching it.

    1. Re:The EULA by 644bd346996 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I doubt that US law prohibits the military from developing missiles.

    2. Re:The EULA by mysidia · · Score: 5, Informative

      They're military, they might not even necessarily have to obey any EULA.

      In theory, the feds could invoke eminent domain and force Apple to sell the IP rights if necessary.

      So Apple has every incentive to be accommodating to their needs...

      But most likely they just buy the DISTRIBUTION certificates from Apple, as any developer could, so they can sign and deploy their own apps on their own without necessarily having to put anything on the app store.

      Not all apps are necessarily public.

    3. Re:The EULA by tyrione · · Score: 4, Informative

      They're military, they might not even necessarily have to obey any EULA.

      In theory, the feds could invoke eminent domain and force Apple to sell the IP rights if necessary.

      So Apple has every incentive to be accommodating to their needs...

      But most likely they just buy the DISTRIBUTION certificates from Apple, as any developer could, so they can sign and deploy their own apps on their own without necessarily having to put anything on the app store.

      Not all apps are necessarily public.

      Wrong on too many levels. Your rationale with eminent domain has massive holes in it, never mind the Federal Military Top Secret IP angle. By the way, NeXT had a long history with the CIA. We worked for probably 15 years and continued after the Merger. There were custom builds for a client's need for a massive price.

  3. What's next? by Alsn · · Score: 5, Funny

    For all your warfare needs, iWar includes anything a soldier needs! Ballistics calculations for artillery, able to say "we mean no harm" in fourhundred and twenty six different languages, a full guide of where to find usable drinking water and much much more. Subscribe now and you'll get free add-ons for a full six months! iWar, saving the lives of soldiers not near you!

    1. Re:What's next? by pyrrhonist · · Score: 5, Funny
      Have the desire to visit a foreign nation, meet interesting people, and kill them?

      There's an app for that!

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  4. Microsoft Issuing WinMobile Devices To Soldiers by CyberSlammer · · Score: 4, Funny

    According to the Ballmer testing division they make excellent projectiles, they have a 99.9% chance of putting an eye out.

  5. Ever wanted to by Overkill+Nbuta · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ever wanted to blow up the **** out of terrorists?

    There is an app for that.

  6. Hmmm by BoneFlower · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I like the idea. Smartphones have enough computing power and sufficient battery life to perform militarily useful functions, with a minimum of added weight to the soldiers gear.

    I'm not sure about the platform choice though. One company controls the hardware and software. There are no alternatives in either category that allow you to benefit from prior investments- replacing the hardware or OS requires junking everything you already have. And if the public APIs don't let you do what you need, and Apple can't or won't, it won't do what you need and thats that.

    Android, or even Windows Mobile, I think would be better. A lot easier to switch to another device and minimize training costs, a lot easier and cheaper to get a device custom designed and built for specific military applications. These two are far more open- anyone with a properly trained engineering team and some money can make devices for these platforms. You need a specialized gadget integrated? You'll have a dozen companies salivating at defense budget dollars. You'll get it done, balancing capability and cost will be a meaningful choice and you can make it based on the needs and the budget, not because it's the best of limited options.

  7. Re:Great idea by ColdWetDog · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Do you understand the concept of 'disposable'? There won't be classified information on these things (that's on the network). When they break, you toss 'em. I don't have a link at the moment, but military personnel have been using consumer GPS units since the war broke out.

    A mil spec iPod would be too heavy to move without a Humvee and too expensive to give to anyone under the rank of Captain.

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  8. Re:How well do they take being dropped / shot at? by gmhowell · · Score: 4, Funny

    I could shoot 'at' an iPod all day long and not damage it. It's when I accidentally hit the target that there may be problems.

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  9. aren't those thing built in China? by atarione · · Score: 4, Insightful

    what could possibly go wrong?

    there have been stories about the Chinese sneaking counterfeit chips into military application some of which have made there way into military aircraft.

    using a consumer gadget built in china seems like a truly epically bad idea.

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  10. Re:Not nitpicking by Whiney+Mac+Fanboy · · Score: 5, Informative

    The right spelling is Gandhi.

    Correct. I am a retard.

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  11. Re:Great idea by 644bd346996 · · Score: 5, Informative

    This kind of case is what the iPods get put in. I'd say they're probably close enough to mil spec that it makes the iPods clearly more cost effective. It's not like iPods are particularly fragile to begin with - once you protect them from moisture and sand, the only significant vulnerability that remains is the touch screen itself, which is easily protected with a flip cover. I doubt that temperature is much of an issue, given that they are all solid-state devices.

    Another example of an enclosure is this one, for the first-gen touch, shown at the bottom of the page with an attached sniper rifle. This is clearly one of the best-protected iPods in the world. If you read more on that site, you'll see that they have done plenty of testing to ensure that the iPod can survive the shock of the attached rifle being fired numerous times.

  12. Some of us absolutely LOVE bush. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Bush hating

    Hey! Some of us absolutely LOVE bush.

    Stop the Apple users are gay innuendo!

  13. Re:Great idea by flyingsquid · · Score: 5, Funny

    The important thing to keep in mind here is that equipping our troops with the iPod Touch and iPhone provides them with something that no other technology can: that smug, hipper-than-thou sense of superiority that comes with being an Apple user. If Al Qaeda and the Taliban are still using Microsoft products, then their morale will suffer because they don't have the latest, cutting-edge gadgets, and they will lose tactical effectiveness on the battlefield.

  14. Why are they just doing this now? by d_jedi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    PDAs/Smartphones which have the desired functionality have existed for many years before the iPhone/iPod touch.
    And using C# with the .NET compact framework is much nicer than developing for the iPhone (background processes, yeah!)

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    1. Re:Why are they just doing this now? by DustyShadow · · Score: 4, Informative
  15. Re:It's about time by Locke2005 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Recharging is tough in the field. What?!? Don't Humvees have cigarette lighter sockets? Next you'll be telling me the military version doesn't even have cupholders!

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  16. Iraq and Motorola Talkabouts by ThrowAwaySociety · · Score: 5, Informative

    You may remember that, in the earlier days of the Iraq war, soldiers would write home begging for their families to send them Talkabout FRS radios. Yup, those little handheld radios sold in blister packs at Wal-Mart for camping trips.

    Those things are, doubtless, less secure, less durable, less resistant to interference, and less powerful than purpose-built military communications systems would be. However, they had one big advantage: they were available to the soldiers when they needed them.

    If the military has trouble getting a mature technology like handheld radios into the hands the troops, you can bet that they'd flub something like handheld computers even worse. Sometimes, it's better to just buy the darned things at Wal-Mart.

    1. Re:Iraq and Motorola Talkabouts by DrgnDancer · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Loved those things. We used them through most of our deployment. You couldn't say everything, but we used code for some stuff or just told people to get to a phone or encrypted radio so you could talk in the clear. The range was short, but usually enough for talking around the camp or for a gate detail or patrol to communicate. It wasn't actually that we had a shortage of milspec radios, it was more that the damned things weigh 25 pounds. Not something you want to be carrying in addition to your weapon, ballistic vest, ammo, helmet, water, etc. We had a small supply of police type radios that could be encrypted for clear communications, but even those are fairly heavy and we had fewer of them. The battalion commander briefly tried to ban them, but we convinced him that we knew how to avoid classified conversations over plain text, and that there were no real practical alternatives.

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  17. Aren't these things made in china? by goombah99 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Apple has an enterprise program. You buy the $299 dev licence, and you can install to your own company/platoon/whatever's devices.

    That's interesting. Does it also allow you to lock it down so that only sanctioned apps can go on it, or so that only fully approved updates can be installed? They're the kind of features I'd be looking for if I had to approve the phone or touch for military applications.

    Well that sort of depends on what backdoors the chinese firmware creators left in.

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    1. Re:Aren't these things made in china? by iMac+Were · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well that sort of depends on what backdoors the chinese firmware creators left in

      I don't discrimainate, I like any firmware in my backdoor.

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  18. Parent has a point.... by SenseiLeNoir · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Although I have nothing wrong in general with items made in another country, I woudl think that military items should be created in the country within which it is issued. Take for example, the recent thing about spys infiltrating the national Grid.

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