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Robotic Penguins

Corporate Troll writes "Robotic penguins were unveiled by German engineering firm Festo this week. Using their flippers, the mechanical penguins (video) can paddle through water just like real ones, while larger helium-filled designs can "swim" through the air. The penguins are on show at the Hannover Messe Trade Exhibition in Germany. Each penguin carries 3D sonar which is used to monitor its surroundings and avoid collisions with walls or other penguins."

118 comments

  1. uh-oh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    I hope these penguins don't start hassling me about Linux.

    I've tried it- it was a pain in the ass. Leave me alone!

    1. Re:uh-oh by icannotthinkofaname · · Score: 2, Funny

      I hope these penguins don't start hassling me about Linux.

      They're penguins. It is in their nature to hassle you about Linux.

      Heck, they're computerized penguins! There is no escape! >:D

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  2. But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...Does is run linux?

    (We all knew this was going to be asked!)

    1. Re:But... by Sensible+Clod · · Score: 5, Funny

      Must also insert reference to Tux.

      Now imagine if someone could get Windows to run on it. That would be funny.

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    2. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Could we get Tux and Ted into a cage match?

    3. Re:But... by Bootarn · · Score: 1

      Oh noes! Ballmer's private army!

      What sweet irony if they were programmed to attack Red Hat HQ.

    4. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Must also insert reference to Tux.

      Now imagine if someone could get Windows to run on it. That would be funny.

      Forget it, nobody's going to develop robotic flying Windows.

    5. Re:But... by FernandoBR · · Score: 1

      ...Does it have lasers?

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    6. Re:But... by PFI_Optix · · Score: 1

      Too late, we've done it. Atom PC + solar panel on a large mylar balloon.

      I don't even remember why we did it now. Some inside joke gone horribly awry.

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    7. Re:But... by malevo · · Score: 1

      Maybe you need this other penguin :)
      http://www.kysoh.com/tux-droid

  3. Greetings! by j235 · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I for one would like to welcome our mechanical delphinid overlords.

    1. Re:Greetings! by SalaSSin · · Score: 1

      delphinid??? you mean Spheniscid??

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  4. Now we need a robotic shark.... by FooAtWFU · · Score: 5, Funny

    (frickin' laser sold separately).

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    1. Re:Now we need a robotic shark.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Imagine the military applications for something like this. Now we can invade Antarctica.

    2. Re:Now we need a robotic shark.... by TheDugong · · Score: 1

      Or Germany could finally attempt Operation Sealion, with a twist anyway.

    3. Re:Now we need a robotic shark.... by The+Grim+Reefer2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      (frickin' laser sold separately).

      Which is a good thing since at 1:37 they discuss the He penguins and claim "A micro-controller gives the penguins free will to explore this space"

      Armed machines with free will never turns out to be a good thing for humans in the movies.

    4. Re:Now we need a robotic shark.... by SEWilco · · Score: 2, Funny

      Which is a good thing since at 1:37 they discuss the He penguins and claim "A micro-controller gives the penguins free will to explore this space"

      Fortunately, the added weight of the laser will require H instead of He. That tends to complicate their experimentation.

    5. Re:Now we need a robotic shark.... by master5o1 · · Score: 1

      Yes, give them lasers to destroy the constraint blocks.

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    6. Re:Now we need a robotic shark.... by scottrocket · · Score: 1

      Still, one of, if not the most graceful robots I have ever seen in operation (the He floaters); and one of the few youtube videos I'd want to watch a second time, and probably will!

    7. Re:Now we need a robotic shark.... by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      By your name, I guess you'd know about such things. I suppose you're a manateese with himself.

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  5. This is the future.. by Lorienthin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I am still relatively young and without children..but is the purpose here that when we systematically destroy actual penguins' habitat I can still show my kid this robot and say "Well, they used to swim kind of like that"....

    1. Re:This is the future.. by Ordonator · · Score: 1

      Turns out Bladerunner wasn't too far off.

    2. Re:This is the future.. by Cochonou · · Score: 2

      Indeed, a recent study predicts their near extinction by 2100. Of course, this is an extrapolation over an incomplete set of data - but probably still a matter of concern.

    3. Re:This is the future.. by hax0r_this · · Score: 5, Interesting

      While I agree with you in principle, have you ever actually seen a penguin in nature?

    4. Re:This is the future.. by tecnico.hitos · · Score: 1

      And if environmental changes don't kill them till there, we will send our superior penguin robot army.

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    5. Re:This is the future.. by jaxtherat · · Score: 4, Informative

      In Australia, you see them all the time: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Penguin

      You can even sometimes see them surfing at the beach :) (although what they're actually doing is chasing schools of bait fish inside the waves)

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    6. Re:This is the future.. by davidphogan74 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Great link. The geek in me of course loved seeing:

      Linus Torvalds, the original creator of Linux (a popular operating system kernel), was once bitten by a Little Penguin while on holiday in Australia. Reportedly, this encounter encouraged Torvalds to select Tux as the official Linux mascot.[12]

      Fuck me. After those first few posts /. went full circle there, I think.

    7. Re:This is the future.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're common on beaches in Australia. I've seen hundreds of penguins here.

      Not every Slashdotter is a pasty pale shut-in.

    8. Re:This is the future.. by dargaud · · Score: 4, Funny

      I've seen plenty of penguins and even been bitten by one: came out behind me as I was chatting with a friend, decided I was in _his_ path and bite me on the knee tendon while hitting me very hard with his bony flippers. I jumped 10 feet in the air. He ended up as a football before I could think about it. I had a limp for a week but he just walked away (fat is very good protection...)

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    9. Re:This is the future.. by mederjo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I live in New Zealand and have had blue penguins swimming around me a few times when I've been surfing. I've also seen the tracks they make through the bush on the way to and from their burrows, they can walk a surprisingly long way and climb pretty steep hills. I haven't seen them at night on the tracks but my mother has. I have seen them in their burrows though, on an island which is a scientific reserve. The burrows are man-made and have lids you can look off to peek inside :-).

      I've seen a couple of other types of penguins in the wild too.

    10. Re:This is the future.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Linus Torvalds?

    11. Re:This is the future.. by oodaloop · · Score: 2, Funny

      Penguins are unnatural on account they ain't mentioned in the Bible. Look it up!

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    12. Re:This is the future.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same here... that is in Cape Town, South Africa

    13. Re:This is the future.. by memorycardfull · · Score: 2, Funny

      Do Germans Dream of Electric Penguins?

    14. Re:This is the future.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      jumped 10 feet in the air. He ended up as a football before I could think about it. I had a limp for a week but he just walked away (fat is very good protection...)

      Obviously the real reason he bit you was so he could finally experience the sensation of flight the seagulls are always going on about.

    15. Re:This is the future.. by Kristoph · · Score: 1

      The study was based on work on done at one Antarctic base and assumes massive Antarctic ice loss which is, at the present time, not happening at all ...

      http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/04/23/2550456.htm

      Moreover, the study focused purely on the Emperor penguin populations in Antarctica which means these guys ...

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Penguin ... are not included.

    16. Re:This is the future.. by Amorymeltzer · · Score: 1

      That's only one specific kind of penguin (Emperor), not all of them.

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    17. Re:This is the future.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My seester was beeten by a penguin, once. No reelly. Eet was a big penguin.

  6. They already invented this by LaskoVortex · · Score: 2, Funny

    while larger helium-filled designs can "swim" through the air.

    It's called a blimp.

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    1. Re:They already invented this by Linuxmonger · · Score: 1

      Technically, it's called a dirigible.

  7. The obvious question by mrbene · · Score: 3, Funny

    Which distro do they run?

    1. Re:The obvious question by Alan426 · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Just smile and waive, boys. Smile and waive."

    2. Re:The obvious question by kaaposc · · Score: 1

      Isn't it a sticker "Slack inside" there on their feet?..

    3. Re:The obvious question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Probably the Slovenian Pingo. :)

    4. Re:The obvious question by nametaken · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Not sure about the software, but in the video I clearly saw they're using XBee modules for RF comm on some of their projects... peer-2-peer, mesh networking, yadda-yadda.

      http://www.digi.com/products/wireless/point-multipoint/xbee-series1-module.jsp

    5. Re:The obvious question by Jackie_Chan_Fan · · Score: 1

      The computer screenshot shown was of OSX.

    6. Re:The obvious question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Ooh, I know this one. The question is "What were the instructions given to the prosecutors considering whether CIA operatives should be charged for waterboarding?"

  8. Festo makes very nice tools, too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Festo makes the best power woodworking tools I've ever seen.

  9. Watch out Batman by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Obviously The Penguin is behind this

  10. Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Generally it's rare for me to see a job I'm truly envious of but those were some of the coolest projects I have ever seen, and to be paid to do that..

  11. Holy crap! by gcnaddict · · Score: 1

    When did Slashdot start doing images in non-extended summaries? Talk about a leap into the future.

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    1. Re:Holy crap! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When the Robotic Penguins With Lasers were recruited to defend against Atlantean insurgent terrorists.

      Sorry, forgot to take my crazy pill today.

  12. Future plans by prehistoricman5 · · Score: 1

    So when does the whale-shaped space probe come?

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    1. Re:Future plans by paulofthejungle · · Score: 2, Informative

      wouldn't work in space, the fins need something (eg. air) to push against

    2. Re:Future plans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >wouldn't work in space, the fins need something (eg. air) to push against
      Missed the point, though I think the original poster meant a cylindrical probe that just happened to talk to whales, not whale shaped itself.

    3. Re:Future plans by corychristison · · Score: 1
  13. Just imagine ... by PPH · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...a Beowulf cluster of these.

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    1. Re:Just imagine ... by mdielmann · · Score: 1

      What do they call that? A flock?

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  14. New "stealth" predator drone? by CompassIIDX · · Score: 5, Funny

    while larger helium-filled designs can "swim" through the air...

    WTF?

    Army Guy: "Hey kids, see the cute penguin?!"

    Youngster: "But, mister, why is it flying around, shooting lasers out of its eyes at those Muslims?!"

    Army Guy: "Penguins do that sometimes! ...Run along now."

    1. Re:New "stealth" predator drone? by nametaken · · Score: 1

      :P

      Watch the video, it's really wild looking, and not even remotely usable for military application.

    2. Re:New "stealth" predator drone? by drinkypoo · · Score: 0, Troll

      Watch the video, it's really wild looking, and not even remotely usable for military application.

      This is the dumbest thing I've seen anyone say all day, but it's early yet. You might get lucky, and get bumped up to #2 idiot.

      There is nothing in this world which cannot be used for military applications. Period, the end.

      If you don't think that swarms of autonomous robots can be used for military purposes, you are not smart enough for slashdot. And that's not saying very much.

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    3. Re:New "stealth" predator drone? by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      There is nothing in this world which cannot be used for military applications. Period, the end.

      A peaceful mind?

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    4. Re:New "stealth" predator drone? by zobier · · Score: 1

      I really want an air penguin.

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  15. Eyes by Anenome · · Score: 1

    Hey, sweet, they have fickin' laser beams for eyes ^_^

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  16. Thought this story was about RMS by syousef · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm so disappointed! We haven't had a story about Stallman for ages now!

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  17. Are UWV's replace the sub? by Dyinobal · · Score: 1

    So like the way the UAV will probably replace (or mostly replace) the manned plane. Will these 'UWV'replaced manned subs?

  18. Welcome by gsmalleus · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I wish to extend a warm welcome to our new robotic penguin overlords

  19. Re:Are UWV's replace the sub? by Nutria · · Score: 1

    So like the way the UAV will probably replace (or mostly replace) the manned plane. Will these 'UWV'replaced manned subs?

    Probably not, since water readily absorbs radio waves.

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  20. The year of... by elite1789 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Robotic Penguins? Skip the desktop -- 2009 will be the year of the Linux Apocalypse.

    1. Re:The year of... by ChimneysCantTalk · · Score: 1

      When you can't beat Windows on a software battle, go hardware!

      When will there be a Tamagotchi version of these penguins btw? It would be like a silent (and cute) world domination

  21. How Happy Are Their Feet Now? by Dripdry · · Score: 1

    I get the sneaking suspicion that Disney is going to buy a whole fleet of these things and create a Happy Feet show at Disney World.

    An entire army of dancing robot penguins with glowing eyes is the stuff nightmares are made of. Thanks, Germany!

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  22. Cue "Head-Mounted Laser" Jokes in... by DavidD_CA · · Score: 1

    3...2...1...

    (Or "Robot Penguin Overlord" Jokes.)

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    1. Re:Cue "Head-Mounted Laser" Jokes in... by MishgoDog · · Score: 2, Funny

      Ummm you're a bit late... I think your counting should be closer to -32,768

  23. What did it say? by ratzmilk · · Score: 1

    In the video, when the pengiun is facing off with the diver, did I see it mouth "Sarah Connor?"?

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  24. Re:Are UWV's replace the sub? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No radio waves required, they're _fully automated_ attack penguins.
    Just make sure they know who's who.

  25. Safe to say by Lysdestic · · Score: 1

    I think it is safe to say that these will never ever take over the Arctic.

    Too Complicated.

  26. Obligatory by BountyX · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I, for one, welcome our new robotic tux overlords =D

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  27. Robotic Penguin Army by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The bear cavalry is well and truly fucked.

  28. Air Jelly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They also have this incredibly graceful flying squid: http://www.festo.com/cms/de_de/5890_6299.htm

  29. Can't the collision avoiding tech be used in cars? by master_p · · Score: 1

    A lot of lives would be saved...

  30. In the USA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In the USA the fuckers would carry lazorz

  31. Forget it man. We're toast. by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    Forget about throwing chairs. With his penguin Zeppelins he'll be able to drop desks and filing cabinets on his foes.

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  32. Hell-o-o!! by PinkyDead · · Score: 1

    These are "penguin shaped".

    That key innovation went right over your head, didn't it?

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    1. Re:Hell-o-o!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Not that they don't look cool and all, but whose bright idea was this anyway?
      "To master energy efficient flight we'll look to nature. We'll learn from the graceful flight of birds, like say ... Oh, I don't know, penguins?"

  33. Cost by worip · · Score: 1

    The head (almost an arm) movement of the artificial penguin is extraordinary - a very elegant design. It must be cheaper, lighter and more robust than a "normal/classic" jointed arm.

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  34. Pedantry: Penguins don't paddle by interactive_civilian · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Paddling is drag-based propulsion (i.e. the animal uses the drag from moving a paddle in the opposite direction to produce thrust in the direction they are moving). Paddling is not very efficient because it requires a recovery phase to reset the paddle. This is how most quadrupeds, such as muskrats, polar bears, even humans, swim.

    Penguins use lift-based propulsion from pectoral oscillation, or literally flapping their wings, just like the birds that they are. They generate thrust from the forward component of the lift produced by their wings depending on the angle of attack. This is much more efficient, as there is no recovery phase and so thrust can be produced almost constantly. This is how penguins (both real and the robots) and sea lions swim. Seals, whales, and dolphins use the same type of propulsion, but use their flukes or rear flippers instead of their pectoral flippers.

    Just to be pedantic, but for some reason, the idea of penguins paddling bothers me. :-/

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    1. Re:Pedantry: Penguins don't paddle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who knew both penguins and Pamela Anderson had both mastered the art of "pectoral oscillation".

    2. Re:Pedantry: Penguins don't paddle by ashitaka · · Score: 1

      OK, so you're a paddling pontificating penguin pectoral propulsion pedant. Thanks for letting us know. :-)

      Your point of course makes sense if you've seen how penguins turn into rockets the second they enter the water. Even in zoos the way they can zip around the tank is awesome.

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  35. Hackintosh by ArcticCheetah · · Score: 1

    Anyone else noticed the developers were using Mac OS on what looks like a PC? Come on Apple sue them! What are you waiting for?

    1. Re:Hackintosh by vlad30 · · Score: 1

      Anyone else noticed the developers were using Mac OS on what looks like a PC? Come on Apple sue them! What are you waiting for?

      All there was was a screen and a keyboard mac mini were sold on the premise you would use your screen and KB from your pc no hack required.

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  36. WTF ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Robostallman ?
    Why ? Just why ?

  37. I FOR ONE by DFurno2003 · · Score: 1

    Welcome our Robotic Penguin Overlords

    1. Re:I FOR ONE by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 1

      Relax, dude. Penguins are birds and birds are supposed to fly.

      Heaven help us though if Festo experiment with pigs.

  38. Gunships? by Blackdognight · · Score: 1

    Did the helium ones remind anyone else of the gunships from HalfLife 2?

  39. Penguin bot-net hybrid risk possibilities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are the penguins pwn4bl3? Imagine tens or hundreds of thousands of infected penguins in a bot-net attacking en masse, the horror, the horror..

    1. Re:Penguin bot-net hybrid risk possibilities by nevdullc · · Score: 1

      Yes, Only for penguins running 'doze, of course. lol

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  40. Flying Penguins by wiredog · · Score: 1

    Video from The BBC

  41. Happy Feet was not Disney by tepples · · Score: 2, Informative

    I get the sneaking suspicion that Disney is going to buy a whole fleet of these things and create a Happy Feet show at Disney World.

    Not all G- or PG-rated animated films with talking animals are produced or published by The Walt Disney Company. March of the Penguins was distributed by Warner. Happy Feet was also Warner. Surf's Up was Columbia. What was Disney's penguin movie called?

  42. Well, first off you're reading /. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That means odds are you can't find your way out of your parents basement to find a female that's willing to procreate with you in the first place. So I wouldn't worry about having to explain such things to your "children".

  43. Sharks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Won't sharks just eat them, or at least mangle them before realizing "not food"?

  44. Re:This is the future.(copying & extending) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Linus Torvalds, the original creator of Linux (a popular operating system kernel)" - by davidphogan74 (623610) on Thursday April 23, @03:04AM (#27683871 Homepage

    It's funny how folks never seem to note that it was NOT "done from scratch", but, instead, let's state the actual truth for once: The truth that Linux was actually built up off of MINIX foundations!

    (See subject-line, because it has the extension to it it needs, to tell the actual truth here, for once).

    People say "Microsoft steals ideas", which IS true... but then again?? So does Linux, & the proof of that's from its very foundations/underpinnings.

    (That said? Well - I guess the old adage is true, that "good artists copy, great artists steal".)

  45. Submit by eos3fan · · Score: 1

    All your penguins are belong to us!

  46. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? by BigBlueOx · · Score: 1

    Is Germany really so boring that the only things that these guys can do to entertain themselves is by building bionic octopii, robotic jellyfish and flying robotic penguins?

    I can see the bionic octopii and flying robotic penguins but robotic jellyfish?? Is there, like, a need for those?

    Did the German ISPs block all the scat-porn websites or something?

  47. $6,000,000 Penguin by penguinstorm · · Score: 1

    Though with inflation being what it is, and the American dollar increasingly valueless relative to more stable economies...$6 Million dollars doesn't buy what it used to.

    In any case, I always knew penguins would rule the Earth.

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    1. Re:$6,000,000 Penguin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Though with inflation being what it is, and the American dollar increasingly valueless relative to more stable economies...

      Just an FYI, right now the dollar is increasing in value relative to other currencies.

      Also the US money supply is *shrinking* right now.

      Not that this means anything in the long term, but now is not an apt time to make your off-topic post re: the dollar.

    2. Re:$6,000,000 Penguin by penguinstorm · · Score: 1

      I know...I know...I just thought the dollar thing made the point more dramtically.

      Frankly I can't figure out why it's happening either. With the massive amount of money your government is inventing out of thing air, I've yet to find anyone who's explained to me why the U.S. isn't suffering from the same kind of hyperinflation as places like Zimbabwe and Argentina have in the past (though the degree of that inflation might be different.) I personally won't be surprised by the eventual collapse when it happens...one of these days.

      Perhaps someone here can, though it's WAY off this topic. I was just making a little funny.

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  48. RoboTux vs. The Tuxedo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sequel to The Tuxedo: Jackie Chan faces off against a killer robotic penguin!

    Do either of them run Linux?

  49. Re:This is the future.(copying & extending) by jcochran · · Score: 1

    I usually ignore trolls, but this one does need a response.

    No Minix code in Linux Ever -- More Evidence

    http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20090419181306570

  50. Holy Toledo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Someone call Michael Keaton.

  51. Penguinator by owlnation · · Score: 1

    Penguinator... So when is Judgement Day?

  52. Yea? See this from WIKIPEDIA... ok?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sure, sure... how about this:

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    "In 1991 while attending the University of Helsinki, Torvalds began to work on a non-commercial replacement for MINIX,[13] which would eventually become the Linux kernel.
    Linux was dependent on the MINIX user space at first. With code from the GNU system freely available, it was advantageous if this could be used with the fledgling OS"

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    Now, IF you code? Tell us how hard it is to do the same thing a variety of ways, especially in C/C++? Not TOO hard, & even easier to "bastardize" your own code to do so!

    So, that all 'said & aside'? Once more - "Good artists COPY, GREAT ARTISTS STEAL!" (period).

  53. just what the cetaceans still by Archfeld · · Score: 1

    alive need is some more active sonar sources to really screw their world up. Can we make several 100K of these and let them loose in the oceans of the world, dolphins and whales have it too easy these days, this should start driving them on shore enmasse....

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  54. I for one Welcome our Robotic Penguin Underlords by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I for one Welcome our Robotic Penguin Underlords