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WHO Raises Swine Flu Threat Level

Solarch writes "Late in the afternoon on Wednesday, the WHO raised the pandemic threat level for H1N1 "swine flu" to 5. Global media outlets(such as CNN, Fox News, and the BBC) preempted normal broadcast coverage and immediately published stories on their websites. To clarify, the WHO's elevation is mainly a sign to governments that the virus is spreading quickly and that steps should be taken on a governmental level to stage supplies and medicines to combat a possible pandemic. Unfortunately, broadcast coverage focused on phrases like 'pandemic imminent' (CNN marquee). In other news, patient zero, the medical term for the initial human vector of a disease, has been tentatively identified in Mexico."

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  1. I dunno? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Who does raise the swine flu threat level?

    1. Re:I dunno? by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 4, Funny

      WHO's on first.

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    2. Re:I dunno? by nxtr · · Score: 5, Funny

      It is not the pronoun, but rather a global public health agency with the unlikely name of WHO that raised the pandemic threat level.

      Clearly, you are one confused man.

    3. Re:I dunno? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      WHOosh.

    4. Re:I dunno? by Bertie · · Score: 5, Funny

      Thanks for that. We Won't Get Fooled Again.

    5. Re:I dunno? by againjj · · Score: 5, Funny

      Who's on first. What's on second.

    6. Re:I dunno? by PayPaI · · Score: 5, Funny
    7. Re:I dunno? by OakDragon · · Score: 4, Funny

      Chalmers: "Well, Seymour, it seems we've put together a baseball team, and I was wondering, who's on first, eh?"
      Skinner: "Yes. Not the pronoun, but rather a player with the unlikely name of 'Who' is on first."
      Chalmers: "Well that's just great, Seymour! We've been out here six seconds and you've already managed to blow the routine!"

    8. Re:I dunno? by sootman · · Score: 5, Funny

      Costello: Well then who sets the swine flu threat level?
      Abbott: Yes.
      Costello: I mean the group's name.
      Abbott: Who.
      Costello: The group that sets the level.
      Abbott: Who.
      Costello: The group that...
      Abbott: Who!
      Costello: I'm asking YOU who sets the level!
      Abbott: That's the group's name.
      Costello: That's who's name?
      Abbott: Yes.
      Costello: Well go ahead and tell me.
      Abbott: That's it.
      Costello: That's who?
      Abbott: Yes.
      Costello: Look, you got a group that sets the level?
      Abbott: Certainly.
      Costello: Who?
      Abbott: That's right.
      Costello: All I'm trying to find out is what's the group's name that sets the swine flu level.
      Abbott: No. WHAT is the Web Hypertext Application Technology Working Group.
      Costello: I'm not asking you who's the Web Hypertext Application Technology Working Group.
      Abbott: Who sets the level!
      Costello: I don't know.
      Abbott & Costello Together: Third base!

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    9. Re:I dunno? by johannesg · · Score: 5, Funny

      You are all making jokes but you are missing the big picture. The WHO is an agency of the United Nations, and they *want* you to panic so they can take over your government! Haven't you people learned nothing from Deus Ex!?

  2. Please let it be!! by happy_place · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I get the feeling that Media outlets are DESPERATELY Hoping that this will be a Pandemic... as if they're bored or really really really like human suffering... oh wait, what's that saying about if it bleeds it's frontpage news? Sigh. --Ray PS> Would hate to die of Swine Flu, just because of what it's called... and all that it would imply if I caught it...

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    1. Re:Please let it be!! by John+Hasler · · Score: 5, Funny

      > Would hate to die of Swine Flu, just because of what it's called... and all that it
      > would imply if I caught it...

      Then call it Mexican flu.

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    2. Re:Please let it be!! by rasper99 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The saying is "If it bleeds, it leads" as in leading story.

    3. Re:Please let it be!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Would hate to die of Swine Flu, just because of what it's called... and all that it would imply if I caught it...

      You're thinking of Swine Syphillis.

    4. Re:Please let it be!! by V50 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Yeah, there's certainly a section of the media that wants terrible news to happen. I don't think they consciously or overtly want stuff to happen, but deep inside, I do think that part of them does.

      I think it's partially human nature though. I've found myself sort of bugged at times by part of me that wants a war to break out, or a pandemic to happen, or the stock market to tank, etc. I think it comes from oftentimes looking at news as fiction that happens far away. And for the most part it's true. If a war breaks out in Africa, for instance, for the majority of North Americans or whatnot, it may as well be fiction for how little it actually affects them.

      tldr; When it doesn't directly harm them, IMO, people often look at news as fiction, and want a more exciting outcome.

    5. Re:Please let it be!! by ring-eldest · · Score: 5, Funny

      Would hate to die of Swine Flu, just because of what it's called... and all that it would imply if I caught it...

      Don't kid yourself, slashdot-netizen, chances are you don't get enough human interaction or even sunlight to risk infection. You're as good as immune.

    6. Re:Please let it be!! by treeves · · Score: 4, Funny

      That's actually what Israel is calling it. I guess "swine flu" isn't kosher.

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    7. Re:Please let it be!! by smaddox · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Back when there was this method called "investigative reporting", there would be crazy things going on all the time, and yet exposing them actually brought improvements.

      Today, "investigative reporting" means blowing trivial and menial things completely out of proportion, asking non-experts their oppinions, and twisting experts words into doom and gloom. It's pathetic how hard these people work to do nothing.

    8. Re:Please let it be!! by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 4, Informative

      I think it's partially human nature though.

      They call it Schadenfreude http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schadenfreude and there is a lot more of it in the world than one would like to believe.

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    9. Re:Please let it be!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      How is it insulting?

      The 1918 flu pandemic was known as the Spanish Flu because it was first widely reported in Spain. Other countries with earlier infections had been at war and were censoring news stories but Spain was not (In Spain it was known as the French Flu).

      This outbreak was first recorded in Mexico so it makes sense to call it the Mexico Flu.

    10. Re:Please let it be!! by V50 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I agree with you to a degree, there certainly is a human element that enjoys other people's suffering. Not too complex though, it makes us feel better in comparison. :)

      What I meant though, to use an example, is having part of you wish a destructive news event to occur, more for entertainment purposes.

      To use an example, back in 2003, (when I was 15) I was a strong supporter of the Iraq war. I made all sorts of justifications based on human rights, WMDs (laugh all you want), Saddam being a dick, etc. The real reason I supported the Iraq invasion in '03 is because I wanted to see a war take place, I wanted exciting footage of missiles hitting Baghdad, I wanted propaganda from both sides, I wanted maps on Wikipedia with how much each side held. Part of me was even disappointed when Baghdad fell quickly. I wanted to see a nasty battle.

      Criticise me as a deranged sociopath all you want, but treating the news as entertainment is far from limited to me. Most people dress it up with other reasons though, like I did. The difference is that because I was 15 at the time, I didn't really hide my true motives for supporting the Iraq invasion very far, knowing the whole time I really just wanted a big expensive exciting war drama to be broadcast over CNN.

      And for all it affected me at the time, (15, Canadian, knew no Americans, let alone military personnel.), it may as well have been a war movie. Being older, (hopefully) more mature, and knowing several people who have served in Iraq and/or Afghanistan, perhaps my opinion would be a bit different, but at the time, Iraq may have been a war movie to me, and good entertainment.

    11. Re:Please let it be!! by timeOday · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No, I think it's mainly just wanting some stimulation or excitement, or to be part of something historic, and not particularly happiness at others' misfortune. There is something very rousing about feeling you are part of history, or in an epic battle.

    12. Re:Please let it be!! by treeves · · Score: 4, Informative
      I thought so too, but I just found this:

      Swine flu name wont be changed in Israel
      By Marc Brodsky April 29, 2009
      NEW YORK (JTA) -- The swine flu will not take any new names in Israel despite the unease of a health official from a fervently religious party.
      Deputy health minister Yakov Litzman, a member of United Torah Judaism, said earlier this week that the name "swine flu" should not be used as it contains the name of the unkosher animal. Litzman suggested that authorities call the virus sweeping the globe "Mexican flu."
      But Mexico's ambassador to Israel, Frederico Salas, and the Jewish state's envoy to Mexico, Yosef Livne, both lodged official complaints Tuesday to the Israeli Foreign Ministry protesting the term.
      A Foreign Ministry official told the French news agency AFP that Salas "was offended" by the term "Mexican flu."
      "Israel has no intention of giving the flu any new names," the official said. "It was nothing more than a slip of the tongue."
      Two Israelis who recently returned from Mexico have contracted swine flu in the first such cases in the Middle East. Several other cases are suspected, including the 5-year-old niece of one of the confirmed cases.

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    13. Re:Please let it be!! by jesser · · Score: 5, Funny

      Just make sure you don't get caught downloading the iraq war. With all the money they put into it, I don't think they'd be happy to find it being torrented.

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    14. Re:Please let it be!! by Bitmap0023 · · Score: 5, Informative

      whats strange is the original outbreak of the 1918 spanish flu started at a Kansas army base. As the WW1 soldiers were deployed to Europe the virus went with them.

    15. Re:Please let it be!! by Znork · · Score: 4, Informative

      It wasn't a natural disaster, wasn't an accident, wasn't even a war. It was a big...

      The term you're looking for is blowback.

  3. The who by thedogcow · · Score: 5, Funny

    ""Late in the afternoon on Wednesday, the WHO raised the pandemic threat level for H1N1 "swine flu" to 5."

    Wow. I knew they had good music but I did not know Peter Townshend was in charge of changing pandemic threat levels.

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    1. Re:The who by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 5, Funny

      If Spinal Tap was in charge the pandemic threat level would go to 11.

  4. not easy to know how to respond by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Informative

    I read an article a couple days ago, apparently there was a swine flu outbreak in 1976, and the US was quite proactive in stopping it, encouraging everyone to get vaccinated. The problem came when more people died from the vaccine than from the flu. So the correct path of action is not always clear, how far should you go to try to prevent this? Wall Street Journal has an interesting article dealing with these issues.

    As for me, being young and healthy, looks like I'm about to roll one of my d20. Whatever happens happens, I'll enjoy it to the end.

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    1. Re:not easy to know how to respond by DragonWriter · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I read an article a couple days ago, apparently there was a swine flu outbreak in 1976, and the US was quite proactive in stopping it, encouraging everyone to get vaccinated. The problem came when more people died from the vaccine than from the flu.

      That's not really the right comparison to judge a "problem" with the course of action. It would clearly be, in retrospect, the wrong decision if more people died of the vaccine than would have been expected to have died from the flu had the vaccination not been carried out, but the fact that more people died of the vaccine than died of the flu when the vaccination was carried out does not appear to be a valid basis, on its own, for criticism.

      Otherwise, a vaccination program that prevented all deaths from a disease (even if, unchecked, it would have been expected to kill billions) would be the wrong decision if even one person died from the vaccine, a result that is clearly ludicrous.

  5. Doesn't scare me at all by mcrbids · · Score: 5, Funny

    The media can do what they will with this non-story.

    I'm safe - I don't believe in that e-vo-lution crap, so this new disease could not have evolved from swine! It's all just pig nonsense.

    I'm going back to prepare a round of raw bacon sushi!

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  6. Re:Semi-Pandemic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually, the virus strikes people with healthy immune systems, and the causes of death are an immune system overreaction. Translated: People with excellent immune systems are more likely to die than those with weaker ones.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cytokine_storm

  7. Just a distraction by V50 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Bah, we all should know this "swine flu" is actually a well orchestrated distraction from our real threat.

    ZOMBIES!

    Fear not the Swine Flu pandemic. Fear instead the imminent Zombie pandemic.

    Unless of course this is just phase 1...

  8. I'll repeat what I heard elsewhere by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "Citation needed."

    Seriously, I see Internet doomsdayers saying this, but I don't see the CDC saying this. So, can you provide a link to a reputable source for this? I'm genuinely interested in reading one. If not, then perhaps you should stop spreading it.

    1. Re:I'll repeat what I heard elsewhere by Knara · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Mod parent up. "Cytokine storm" is the new Internet meme lately.

      With the grand WHO total of deaths being caused by H1N12009 being EIGHT, and the most well documented death so far being a 23 year old, the whole idea that this is killing otherwise healthy (a BIG assumption, this is Mexico, not the US, the health care system and environmental conditions in Mexico City is not very good in the former and absolutely terrible in the latter case) adults is isn't founded at all.

    2. Re:I'll repeat what I heard elsewhere by Estanislao+Mart�nez · · Score: 5, Insightful

      With the grand WHO total of deaths being caused by H1N12009 being EIGHT, and the most well documented death so far being a 23 year old, the whole idea that this is killing otherwise healthy (a BIG assumption, this is Mexico, not the US, the health care system and environmental conditions in Mexico City is not very good in the former and absolutely terrible in the latter case) adults is isn't founded at all.

      The WHO grand total of confirmed deaths is low because confirmation of which strain was involved in each specific case is slow. The actual number of deaths so far by the strain is almost certainly significantly higher. To put it more precisely, a large proportion of the cases that have been labeled as suspected swine flu deaths will turn out to be so.

      Also, I don't think your Mexican health care and environment objection holds. Given no other data, you would expect that to increase the number of deaths, but not the distribution of deaths across age groups. You need a stronger hypothesis: that the poor health care in Mexico increases the risk of death from H1N1 disproportionately among young adults and middle-aged adults will die from H1N1, compared to children and the elderly.

      The one thing that's sure at this point is that our information is quite likely to have very serious holes yet, however.

  9. Re:Semi-Pandemic by Vellmont · · Score: 4, Informative


    It it is most dangerous to those with strong immune systems because of the potential for cytokine storms

    Which is pure speculation at this point. The truth is nobody knows why it's mostly killed young people so far. Pointing to a cytokine storm as the cause is possible, but very misleading.

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  10. Um, no. by Estanislao+Mart�nez · · Score: 4, Informative

    One of the remarkable facts about this outbreak is that the deaths in Mexico are primarily among healthy adults between 20 and 50--similar to the profile of the Spanish flu of 1918. However, one of the yet unresolved puzzles about the virus is why the mortality figures in Mexico are proportionally so much larger than in the USA, so yeah, we just don't know what's going on yet...

  11. Just what is a pandemic? by night_flyer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    in the US alone there are An estimated 100,000 hospitalizations and about 20,000 deaths occur each year from the plain old flu or its complications... so what is the big deal?

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    1. Re:Just what is a pandemic? by et764 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      From what I've read the fears over this one are that so far it is killing a lot higher percentage than the flu normally kills. This flu also seems to kill a disproportionate number of people in the 20-50 age rage. Normally flu deaths are mostly confined to infants and the elderly.

      From a pure numbers standpoint it's not so bad. What's scary is the similarity to earlier flu pandemics. No one's really sure how bad this may get, so people are taking extra precautions.

  12. And some just don't understand. by Nethead · · Score: 5, Interesting

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/egypt-orders-slaughter-of-all-pigs-over-swine-flu-1676090.html

    Egypt began slaughtering the roughly 300,000 pigs in the country Wednesday as a precautionary measure against the spread of swine flu... Agriculture Minister Amin Abaza told reporters that farmers would be allowed to sell the pork meat so there would be no need for compensation.

    Yeah, what's the price of pork in a vastly flooded market. Other stories on the subject report riots by the pig farmers and also note that the WHO says that you can't catch it from eating pork. This is more a case of the non-pork eating religious majority using this as an excuse to crap on the pork eating religious minority (and 'unclean' pig farmers.)

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  13. From a Hot Zone by mathx314 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Allow me to explain my bias before embarking on this rant: I currently attend University of Delaware. At present there are 10 unconfirmed cases among the student body. Not a big number (total student number is ~13,000), but diseases do have a tendency to spread quickly among student populations.

    What bothers me about this isn't that people are overreacting, which they are to a large extent. I don't feel the need to wander around with a surgical mask and I'm right in the middle of a hot zone. Rather, what bothers me is that people are underreacting. There seems to be a knee-jerk reaction that says that swine flu won't cause any sort of devastation; that it's not something to worry about.

    The fact of the matter is that while they're probably right, there's no reason not to take simple precautions. So long as this is going on, I'll make sure to was my hands with soap and water after using the bathroom, to try to avoid sick people, and to go to health services if I start showing flu-like symptoms. On the other hand, I hear plenty of people at school saying that they don't care, that if they get it it's "just the flu." I see a lot of people here on /. saying that this is just a media circus and just for drug companies to capitalize on. Maybe you guys are right, but what if you aren't?

    As I said, I'm biased since I'm in a hot zone, but I'd rather be safe about this than contract it.

    1. Re:From a Hot Zone by FatFreeCelery · · Score: 5, Insightful

      So long as this is going on, I'll make sure to was my hands with soap and water after using the bathroom

      I hope that you continue your newly found routine even after this has gone on.

  14. Swine Flu by painandgreed · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's the Aporkalypse!

  15. Governments are already taking huge action by scourfish · · Score: 5, Funny

    For example, Madagascar has just closed its seaport. And here I was, so close, to winning :(

  16. Still Unknown Case Fatality Rate by Baldrson · · Score: 4, Interesting
    There are basically 3 regimes of Case Fatality Rate separated by about a factor of 10 each:

    1) more than 1%
    2) .1% to 1%
    3) less than .1%

    We still don't know which range we're dealing with and, uh, like, it matters.

    All it would take is to focus on a standard sample like Mexico City hospital interns, process their swabs STAT and count the deaths so far.

    Seriously, folks, where are the adults?

  17. Most of the deaths have been young adults by billstewart · · Score: 4, Informative

    Most of the deaths reported in the press have been non-elderly adults, as opposed to the regular flu where 90% of the deaths are already-sick old people and the rest are mostly kids who are too young for flu shots. Until the latest news articles (which said that "150 deaths" was "maybe actually only 7-8 confirmed to be swine flu"), the number of deaths from swine flu was about 1% of the total number of regular-seasonal-flu deaths during the past week.

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  18. Re:Semi-Pandemic by againjj · · Score: 4, Funny

    That page is riddled with [citation needed]. It doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

  19. Re:No evidence for "Cytokine Storm" by theNAM666 · · Score: 4, Informative

    People, stop spreading this stupid, unfounded meme. The folks who have been verified to have died from H1N1 2009 have been from a country with a poor health care system and a city that is horrible in terms of air pollution and other environmental conditions.

    Please STOP spreading this racist, unfounded meme. While Mexico is a developing nation with a "poor" health care system, hospitals in Mexico City and elsewhere are modern, with up-to-date equipment and well-trained personnel. While pollution is a problem, not necessarily more so than in parts of New York City or LA, especially in the downtown zones under the new environmental rules. Significant advances in air quality have been made in the past 10 years, under AMLO and Ebrard.

    There is no clear, obvious reason for a higher morality rate across Mexico, including and especially in the downtown Mexico City hospitals, than in the US.

  20. This is how it always starts.... by macraig · · Score: 5, Funny
  21. CDC says bacterial secondary infection was killer by billstewart · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you look at that CDC search, one article that jumps out is this one, which says that based on later research, it looks like the big killer wasn't actually the influenza itself or related cytokine storms, but secondary bacterial infections causing pneumonia among people weakened by the influenza. That's actually fairly good news, because it's much more likely that we can treat those in a hurry with existing antibiotics (as opposed to waiting 6 months to get a newly-tuned H1N1 vaccine or using the increasingly-ineffective antivirals like Tamiflu), and because quarantine also reduces the spread of bacterial infections so people who do get the flu are less likely to get the secondaries.

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  22. Re:Semi-Pandemic by hurfy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    And this is the ONLY real story here.

    If this is an average flu season at least a couple dozen kids in the US have died already from the standard A/B/whatever strains vs 1 for the swine flu.

    I'll leave you to figure out i gave an very conservative guess according to the CDC. Mexico i have no clue.

    It is still much more dangerous to cross the street for lunch, how about a banner to Stop for Pedestrians :(

  23. Re:Leftover Bush Fearmongering plus some reality by regular_gonzalez · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Can you imagine any possible news story where you would not find it relevant to bring up Bush? Let it go already, it's over.

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  25. I've seen this episode... by akpoff · · Score: 4, Funny

    The Dr and Rose appear on a spaceship cunningly disguised as a planet only to find there's a mysterious disease that's killing spectacularly low numbers of people who all happen to live in the same city. Normally he wouldn't worry about it but Rose manages to get infected so the Dr raises the threat level to OMG. He works night and day to find a cure only to be forced to infect himself, die from the disease, but not really as his seemingly magic, but really explainable in materialistic terms, Time Lord powers cause him to regenerate in the form of Tom Baker.

    He draws some of his own blood with his sonic screwdriver and, treats Rose, who makes a full recovery. As a gesture of good will, and for the episode to end on a relative high note (despite Tom Baker's haggard appearance), he takes the TARDIS into a low "earth" orbit and sprays the serum into the jet stream, thus curing and inoculating most of the world. The Dr and Rose leave for better times.

    Just moments later the Vogons appear and destroy the world to make way for hyperspace bypass.

  26. Terrible name by st0rmshad0w · · Score: 4, Funny

    Swine flu is a horrible name.

    I'm going to call it "bacon lung".

    Everything's better with bacon.