Time For Voice-Mail To Throw In the Towel
theodp writes "Slate's Farhad Manjoo feels the end of voice-mail is nigh, and it won't be missed. Since March, he's been using Google Voice to transcribe his voice-mail messages into text that he gets as skimmable e-mail. No more listening to at least a bit of each voice-mail message, hearing the same instructional prompts between each, and worrying about whether it's 9-to-archive and 7-to-skip (or vice versa). Goodbye and good riddance, says Manjoo, to an 'absurdly backward mode of human-computer interaction' that he half-jokes must violate the Geneva Conventions."
it costs me to listen to it, and if it's important enough, they'll call again or leave a text or something
Visual voicemail.
The concept of voicemail is sound; the technology has been poor. Visual voicemail fixes the technology.
Text to speech isn't anywhere near 100% yet. Until it is, voicemail isn't going anywhere. Beyond which, human voice can impart additional meaning in tone that text can't. We probably could make better voicemail systems, but I don't see a lot of effort going into that. It isn't really a revenue generator for anyone, and the existing systems aren't that bad to use. 1 button to delete, 1 to save, 1 to repeat. I'd like to see fast forward and rewind like old tape based answering machines had, but that's about all it needs.
I still have more fans than freaks. WTF is wrong with you people?
..if you live in America. I'm pretty sure Google Voice isn't available elsewhere.
this is pretty cool and very useful.
My other half uses a transcription service, SpinVox for her mobile phone which takes the messages and sends them via text message and email. Unfortunately I have a rather non-standard accent, what with the elocution lessons my parents made me take during my childhood in Northern Ireland, spending half my life in England and my default ability to try to match the speaking patterns of who I am talking to. It consistently mangles it's transcription of my messages.
A more interesting (for me anyway) approach for me is that taken by Microsoft's unified communications stuff where I've seen your phone number route through to your computer to Office communicator, with voicemails being emailed as attachments. Of course this is very corporate centric, but it strikes me as more useful. Sure you have to listen to the attachment, but there's no risk of misunderstanding because a transcribing service got it horribly wrong.
... will be a text-to-voice service that will read your Google Voice mail to you...
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To answer my own rhetorical question he has, he spends a paragraph musing over Visual Voicemail. I don't quite understand what his problem with it is, the iPhone lets you not listen to messages as easily as it lets you listen to them. It also makes sure messages are associated with contacts in your address book so its obvious who the voicemail is from. He could just used the "missing calls" screen or listen to the voicemails or just throw his phone in a lake because he doesn't seem to be a good conversationalist anyways.
The main complaint of the article isn't a technical one, both Visual Voicemail and Google Voice solve the technical problems with voicemail. His real problem is a social one. His friends are assholes and leave messages consisting of "call me back" knowing they're calling his cell phone and more to the point probably know he has an iPhone or doesn't like checking his voicemail. He's not using the iPhone's ability to ignore useless voicemails and his friends don't seem to register the fact he has caller ID and will be able to see he missed their call.
This is a vexing situation because these people have probably had cell phones for the past ten years if not longer. They know everyone has caller ID and their phones alert them to missed calls. There's no need to waste the time on "call me back" voicemails for anyone. At the same time voicemail is not without its uses. Voicemail can be left by anyone with a phone including landlines. Your SO can leave a message from their landline work phone saying they'll be late for dinner or your kid's school can tell you to come pick them up because they're sick. Voice also tends to be a bit more information dense than printed words since it can convey emotion as well as information.
Oh well, we should all ditch voicemail because a Slate writer has dumbass friends.
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"Beyond which, human voice can impart additional meaning in tone that text can't."
:-D lulz ROFLcopter )-': to impart those more nuanced details.
Bah! I fully expect my transcribed voice mail to include
Quack, quack.
I disagree. Voice mail will not go away. It will eventually converge with email.
Sometimes I want to hear someone speak to understand tone, sometimes I want to read to save time. I think voice and email will converge. Just because he's getting speech to text doesn't mean he'll want to destroy the speech data. What if you don't know someone is being sarcastic, or if you just happen to miss the sound of someone's voice?
Alternatively, I think a simple text to speech feature will eventually come about too. Though theoretically not quite as useful for gauging emotion (though I'm sure some "emotional emphasis" could probably be added without too much difficulty), some people may prefer to hear a text message when they're doing things like driving.
It will certainly be refined and perfected over the next decade or so, but as the summary states, it's already starting to happen.
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I switched my voice mail off, so I don't need to check my messages, because "the leaving of a message is one half of a social contract which is completed by the checking of the message.
If that social contract breaks down then all social contracts break down. We decent into anarchy."
Voice-to-text is great if you speak English or another language spoken by at least 20 million people. If you're part of a minority, not so.
Although I check my voicemail via emailed attachments, most of them are rather urgent, and mere text does not convey the whole story. There's no way anyone can convince me they leave the same message on voice mail as they do on a SMS text message.
Here's a real example of two messages I received two days ago:
[text] you gotta minute?
[voice] Man I'm in a jam, I've got an offer to jump in on a European tour, but we don't have the right demo, they want something raw, can we cut something in the club?
That is a personal favor and no way it gets approved via text. It would be ignored, and the sender would be PNG instead of on his way to Europe.
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Voice Mail is easier than E-Mail.
With voice mail, you can:
1: Delete by quickly pressing 1 key,
2: Don't get as NEARLY as much SPAM mail,
3: You just need a cheap phone, and not a whole computer, internet access, ISP, etc.
Voice mail will never go away. Period. I wish these 'tech people' would quit making their bizarre predictions just to get their name in a magazine or article.
Knowing Google's lust for data collection, the Soviet Union is still alive and well inside the psyche of Sergey Brin....
This "article" reads like someone who is either trying to promote the new service with a little extra publicity - or is trying to prove how techno-savvy he/she is by using a leading edge tech.
Well, yawn, I really don't care.
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Listening to drunken messages left on my voicemail is often the highlight of a Sunday morning hangover.
Visual Voicemail on the iPhone should have "fixed" the user-unfriendly nature of traditional voicemail. But alas, here in the UK, it is all-too-frequently unavailabe, either due to lack of a mobile signal (even though the messages are stored on your phone, Visual Voicemail is disabled if you lose signal), or due to unspecified faults that result in you being told smply that Visual Voicemail is unavailable and you must dial in to access your voicemail manually. A potentially great service, crippled by some horrible "service DRM" that shuts it off as soon as the service isn't there.
Like many iPhone users, I often evangelise about the iPhone and encourage my friends to get one. But I always include one caveat: DON'T get it based on the attraction of Visual Voicemail. The feature is so often unavailable that you should regard it as non-existant.
I have some services, such as Vonage, that attempt to provide a speech-to-text transcription of your voicemail to your email. However, being someone not originally born in the US, many of my voicemails tend to be in another language.
Staying in touch with my family is very important to me, and if I'm missing their voicemails, then I can't use these services. It will be a long time before a lot of the world's languages have speech-to-text conversion and an automatic service could recognize which language is being spoken and then use the appropriate conversion.
So I don't think voicemail will go away at all, perhaps become less common.
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It gives the caller the illusion (maybe it's my message) that the message is Very Important to me and will be returned (right, delete) ASAP!
Well, all that you say is true, but that isn't what I meant.
The money comes from people phoning you. Voicemail is active as default and most people don't disable it.
When you ring someone else and they don't answer, the voicemail picks up and you pay for one minute of a phone call. That is a lot of money when your customers have thousands of missed calls per day. If the other network reciprocates, then the networks have a tidy income and the customers pay to listen to a robot beep at them.
This message was scanned by European governments and contains no terrorism.
And it was never popular in Europe.
In Serbia, our fixed line monopolist Telekom does not offer voice mail. On the other side, all of our mobile providers do offer voice mail, and they offer it for 8 years, and still no one uses it.
Somewhat similar to this, mobile providers send you a SMS with a list of missed calls (time + number) so if you have turned your mobile off, you'll get the list as soon as you turn your phone on.
Also if you cannot get someone on his mobile, you can send him a SMS, and it will be delivered once he gets reachable again.
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...just like email killed faxes.
*beeeeep* ...to page this user now, press pound, or leave a message after the tone" ...
*beeeeep*
*beeeeep*
"Hello, you have reached the voicemail of... BIKE HELMET
*biiiiip*
- "Hi honey! Hey, could you tell me what brand hemorrhoid cream you always get? You mentioned you were out and I'll be at the pharmacy later for my allergy medicine."
"You have... ONE ...new voice mail." ...you always get? You mentioned you were out and I'll be at the pharmacy... Trusted 0nline Pharmacy, ED pills save up to 80%. ViagraCialisLevita and more. CheapestPrice & 100% satisfaction guaranteed ...later for my allergy medicine... ALSO AT WALGREENS - ZYRTIC, 20 PROCENT OFF!."
- "Hi honey! Hey, could you tell me what brand hemmorhoid cream... NEED PREPARATION? NOW AT WALGREENS - ONLY $4.95!
"end of messages"
Yeah, not gonna happen, nobody would use it if that started happening. That said - trust Google not to store/parse your voicemail->text messages and use them to deliver targeted ads to you online / to your Account / etc.?
I'm a songwriter, and sometimes I call to sing to my answering machine when I have an idea and I'm away from home. I sure hope that google thingy can write music...
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I've had Voice Mail activated for my mobile number from Airtel since 2000 in Delhi as well as Bangalore. Dunno about Vodafone, but I'm pretty sure Hutch (pre-Vodafone) had VM in their VAS offerings atleast since 2004. I've had many friends who had enabled it on their Hutch no:s.
Atleast 'try to' verify what you write.
Now, less than 0.1 percent of the huge Indian cellular subscriber base uses VM. Thats another point all together. But why bother to spend Rs. 3 per minute for an abstruse service when you can send an SMS for free (with most plans) or just leave a miss call (culturally de-facto method to ping the other cellular party in India). Business environment has different requirements. But in India so far I've very very rarely seen VM being used prominently. Email leads the way along with normal voice calls.
I will assume from this statement that you know of no young people who may be trying to find a new job. Not checking voicemail can easily amount to a missed job opportunity, particularly if the employer is calling from his or her own cell that may have a blocked number and won't show up in your call display (which in my experience doesn't seem to be that infrequent).
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Disclaimer: I work for a cellphone operator.
Ok, TFA has some valid points on the endless annoyance that we know as voicemail. But for mobile operators, at least, there's really no reason for them to kill this service.
And do you know why? Voicemail is considered, from a telco point of view, as a Call Completion Service. This allows the operator to generate revenue by forwarding a call that was destined for termination (B-party hung up, rejected etc) into a service that answers the call. At which point, they can charge the caller for this "previlege".
Let's say operator X has 100 million calls per month on its network where the called party has rejected the call or is unavailable. Assuming that:
* a chargeable block of 0.10 per minute
* everyone leaves a short message that's less than one minute long
The operator stands to make $10,000,000 a month in call completion revenue. By providing a simple voicemail service. Which no-one really cares about anyways. Of course, there'd be interconnect charges from other operators, but the gist is the same.
If voicemail was removed, the operator would lose this significant chunk of revenue, just because there was nothing to complete the calls. Which is why you'll never get existing operators who already provide voicemail removing it.
Voicemail == Call Completion == Cash Cow
Where I'm working, revenue from this call completion bit contributes around 20% of the monthly voice traffic revenue.
Another fun factoid: voicemail retrieval stands at 10% of those deposited.
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Sure, we know checking voicemail is a pain in the ass, but leaving it is worse. I so much prefer text messages, especially for anything that's simple to ask or answer. "Wut time shud i pik u up?" As opposed to "ring....ring....ring....*click* Hey this is Susie, I'm not here right now, but if you'll leave me your name and number I'll give you a call back at my earliest convenience. Thanks and have a great day! *click* to page this user, press 7. To leave a callback number, press 5. To leave a voice message, press 1 or stay on the line." "Hi Susie, what time should I pick you up? Call me."
And yeah I know you can skip to the "leaving a message" part by pressing 1 but it's still annoying.
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