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Wolfram Alpha Launches Tonight, On Camera

future.nerd tips news that Wolfram Alpha is set to be launched tonight at 8PM EST (00:00 GMT), and the entire process will be broadcast live, via webcast. Steven Wolfram said to PCPro, "We've been rather surprised that we haven't been able to find even a single publicly available record of the commissioning of any large website at all. So we thought we would document our own experience. We can't guarantee that everything will go smoothly. We fully expect to encounter unanticipated situations along the way. We hope that it'll be interesting for people to join us as we work through these in real time." In a related blog post, he explains how Wolfram Alpha interacts with Mathematica.

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  1. Google Killer by credd144az · · Score: 4, Funny

    Get ready to sell all your google stock. /sarcasm

    1. Re:Google Killer by geekoid · · Score: 3, Informative

      He specifically said it's not a google killer.

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    2. Re:Google Killer by DragonWriter · · Score: 4, Insightful

      He specifically said it's not a google killer.

      Well, people have said its not trying to compete with Google, even though its designed to do something better that people currently use Google for. They are either simply hoping Alpha won't to be compared to Google, perhaps for fear the comparison will come out negative, or they know what "compete" means.

    3. Re:Google Killer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      It's 3 * 431 * 15277 * 37442701 * 147657520779852340528076762049047081, of course. You needed a search engine for that?!

    4. Re:Google Killer by dtml-try+MyNick · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Or maybe they simply don't want to be compared to Google and their goal was simply not to create a Google killer.

      From the few test queries I just did it looks to me like a app that one can use next to google. Instead of just blindly go to google to search for something you now can make a choice.
      What kind of information am I looking for? Which engine do I expect to handle my question the best?

      As far as I can tell now it's a cross-over between wikipedia and google at best.

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  2. Re:My Wolfram question is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    When will I get first post?

    The Magic 8-Cell Automaton says "Outlook not so good."

  3. Re:My Wolfram question is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Funny, that's what it said when I asked about e-mail programs...

  4. A New Kind of Website by Dachannien · · Score: 2, Funny

    But what I want to know is how Wolfram Alpha interacts with elementary cellular automata!

  5. Step by Step by eddy_crim · · Score: 5, Insightful

    1. create complex new search engine type technology
    2. create webcast of launch
    3. announce on slashdot
    4. fail!

    I wonder why people dont create records of sites going live... perhaps its cos the poop always collides with the fan!

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  6. Idiots - exactly the wrong way to launch a website by Sanity · · Score: 5, Insightful
    You can be pretty sure that this wasn't the idea of the engineers who built the website. The worst possible launch from an engineering standpoint is a high-profile one where your traffic spikes immediately on going live. The likely outcome is that your site goes down and all your PR effort results in nothing other than ridicule.

    When I've been involved in launching websites I've always had to talk down the PR people from some kind of high-profile launch, to something as gradual as possible.

  7. It's sure to clarify one thing... by Onyma · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I believe if this new computational engine comes online tonight the first thing it's going to define is a much better understanding of the term 'slashdotted'.

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  8. Alpha? by MrEricSir · · Score: 5, Funny

    Shouldn't it become Wolfram Beta after tonight?

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    1. Re:Alpha? by Dahamma · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, it's defintiely alpha. The only question it has answered correctly for me so far is "What did HAL say in 2001?"

  9. Re:Oh Oh Oh Google killer by Svippy · · Score: 2, Funny

    You know, finally, we might be able to get a clear answer on how to determine whether a program has stopped.

    Or who killed the dinosaurs and whether post stamp glue is really made of toad mucus?

    And on a related note; is Futurama coming back?

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  10. Re:Why? by MtlDty · · Score: 5, Funny

    Personally I'm hoping to see servers go up in smoke, explosions, minor casualties and with some luck an invasion by a passing Vogon fleet when I ask for The Ultimate Question

  11. A New Kind Of Search Engine by David+Gerard · · Score: 5, Funny

    Some might say that Mathematica, the source of my fortune, and A New Kind Of Science: A Brief History Of My Stupendous Intellect were ambitious projects. But in recent years I've been hard at work on a still more ambitious project: Wolfram Alpha.

    Fifty years ago, people assumed that computers would quickly be able to handle all kinds of question. It didn't work out that way. But a few years ago, I realized that I was finally in a position to do it myself. As I'd always expected I#d have to, of course.

    I had the crucial ingredients: Mathematica and A New Kind Of Science. And my truly massive intellect. With these, I had a language to compute anything and a paradigm for complexity from simple rules. And my spectacular brain, which is much more spectacular than anyone else's, as proven by me being rich as well as smart. Which is smarter: to be a professor, or to be the professor all the other professors pay tribute to? I think my net worth makes the answer clear.

    But what about all the actual knowledge that we as humans have accumulated? I realized we needed to make all data computable as knowledge. Of course, natural language is incredibly difficult for computers. So we added the secret ingredient: my jaw-droppingly spectacular brain, undoubtedly the largest on Earth.

    I'm happy to say that with a mixture of clever algorithms and heuristics, linguistic discovery and curation, and some casual Nobel-worthy theoretical breakthroughs in my spare moments, we've made it work. It's going to be a website with one simple input field that gives direct access to my superlative brain, in its planet-sized glory.

    Our pre-launch testers have been at work as well, and I'm dealing with all manner of queries in spare thought cycles while I jetset around the world, wowing the pitiful minds of gorgeous international supermodels before impregnating them with my superior genetic material. Let's just have a look at the query stream:
    "tits" "goatse" "mary whitehouse naked" "4chan" "tubgirl" "2girls1cup" "ITS OVER 9000 LOL" "desu desu desu desu"
    ERROR ERROR ERROR
    &&#(â^^(856â^*#**â#&*##&##
    NO CARRIER_

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  12. It is receiving universal praise... by tb()ne · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...from all the commenters on Wolfram's blog. It is actually rather amusing to read through the long list of overwhelmingly positive comments.

  13. I was right by Sanity · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Their launch video page appears to be slashdotted. What a surprise :-|

  14. First W|A task: by 7times9 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Solve: Server Slashdotting... Equals... Error: Causing own slashdotting!##'$£"$12

  15. DED by captinkid · · Score: 2, Funny

    DED dead, website will not even refresh, even after pressing refresh a dozen times on several computers. :) Just doing my part.

  16. First Thing I'll do with it by artor3 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Pit it against 20Q. Come up with a random thing, and have 20Q ask questions while WA gives answers, and see if the two together can figure out what I was thinking of. My guess is that the questions will be too bizarre for WA to handle ("is electricity an animal, vegetable, or mineral?"), but it should be interesting.

  17. Colossus by BorgCopyeditor · · Score: 2, Funny

    15 minutes later, Alpha reports:

    "Warning. There is another system."

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  18. Launch delayed, WolframAlpha hits a "snag" by Stan+Vassilev · · Score: 3, Informative

    Wolfram Alpha encounters 'snag,' launch could be delayed

    "We have several supercomputer-class compute clusters. One of our tests was to use one cluster to simulate traffic and run it against the other cluster. And when we did that last night, we found that the through-put we got degraded horribly when we increased the amount of traffic that we were pushing from one cluster to the other."

    Remaining questions:

    1. Why didn't they test first, then announce launch date?
    2. Why are they building excitement towards a specific release day, hour and minute (which will surely cause availability issues even if they launched), instead of releasing it gradually with gmail-style invitation system?

    That said, the project seems definitely worthwhile, I hope the internet community cuts them some slack so they can fix this in peace. Hopefully we see the project online soon.

    1. Re:Launch delayed, WolframAlpha hits a "snag" by d474 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That said, the project seems definitely worthwhile, I hope the internet community cuts them some slack so they can fix this in peace.

      I agree and from what I've seen of WolframAlpha so far, is it seems like an excellent "thinking sketch pad". You can brainstorm ideas quickly with it, performing quick calculations in seconds what might take you 5 or 10 minutes to search for, gather input, convert units, get the right equation, and then finally perform the calculation. With this thing you can just type in your question in a loose form and play with the idea. Again, it's only a "sketch" pad so to speak. So if your idea or direction you are going looks good, you can roll up your sleeves and do the "real stuff" on your own system.

      And that's what I find very interesting: WolframAlpha gets to watch the calculations be performed by bright (and not so bright) people all over the world and see what ideas people are tinkering with. They could flag certain equations on the cutting edge and so on...

      And it's only going to get better.

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    2. Re:Launch delayed, WolframAlpha hits a "snag" by NewbieProgrammerMan · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And that's what I find very interesting: WolframAlpha gets to watch the calculations be performed by bright (and not so bright) people all over the world and see what ideas people are tinkering with. They could flag certain equations on the cutting edge and so on...

      I'm not working on the cutting edge of anything, but what little bit I know about science and math leads me to think that progress is very rarely about coming up with new equations. Even if it was, and I was working anywhere near cutting edge science, I certainly wouldn't be typing my work into W/A so that Wolfram can run off and patent and/or scoop my discovery.

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  19. Re:Such confidence. by NightRain · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They're doing a fantastic job of personalising it though. If you're interested in "geek culture" cred to build up an initial userbase to iron out the kinks, with professional usage coming at a later time, this seems like a good way to do it...

  20. Re:Idiots - exactly the wrong way to launch a webs by Carnildo · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you look at the top ten websites on Alexa, maybe two of them (MSN and Microsoft Live) had high-profile launches. I know that three of them (Google, Yahoo, and Wikipedia) had launches consisting of the site creator saying to his friends "Hey, guys! Look at this cool thing I made!"

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  21. Input page by Sephr · · Score: 5, Informative

    The main page's search input area is still unusable for me and if it is for you, try http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/ instead. The "i" GET parameter is your search. For example: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=world+population

    1. Re:Input page by cryptoluddite · · Score: 2, Funny

      Wolfram Alpha is for when you want to know how long it will take for two orbits around the galaxy. Also, how long it takes the solar system to orbit the galaxy is not what I'd call 'useful' information...

  22. Re:Trying it.. It doesn't work that well. by tbird81 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Also: "Magnum PI" gives the nice answer "3.142 magnums".

  23. Been using it for about an hour... by Gordo_1 · · Score: 5, Informative

    You just have to type in http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/ to get to a usable input screen.

    Unfortunately, it seems as though Steven Wolfram's screencast that's been up for the past few days used rather cherry-picked examples, as the underlying datasets do not seem to be as comprehensive as one might have been led to believe. Beyond the fairly basic things you might find in the CIA fact book or other source of basic data, it just doesn't yet have the breadth of underlying data that would make it an indispensable tool. For example, after playing around with W|A finance queries, I was left completely unimpressed with the paltry datasets and feel that any market/stock questions I have would be better served by hitting up finance.yahoo.com. They have some basic data about professional sports teams, but NHL hockey is nowhere to found, and you can't find anything in the way of current player stats for any sport, let alone historical data. Birthdays of notable sports figures are there though...

    Gotta admit, it's quite an ambitious undertaking, I just think they're somewhere between 3 and 5 orders of magnitude away from having enough data and detail to make it the kind of thing I would consider using regularly. Stay tuned, might be interesting in a year... or five.

  24. Re:Idiots - exactly the wrong way to launch a webs by MichaelSmith · · Score: 2, Funny

    These guys are really good.. I thought I could crash them.

  25. Re:Shows the value of wikipedia's model by dzfoo · · Score: 2, Funny

    Maybe if you spelled "versus" correctly. I'm not sure it has much poetic inclinations.

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