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Budget Graphics Card Roundup

Anonymous Coward writes "Not all of us are prepared to drop $500 for a killer graphics card. Generally, the sweet spot in price and performance is in the budget category of GPUs. Joel Durham Jr. over at ExtremeTech reviews nine current graphics cards, all of which are below $250, some below $150, to determine which cards are worth the time and money for the gamer on a budget. In the sub $150 category, the ATI Radeon 4770 performed the best for its price. Spend a little more and Joel recommends the GeForce 260."

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  1. But can they render... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...first posts?

  2. Wrong... by Schnoogs · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...the sweetspot is in the mid range. The budget cards are only good for playing those 2-3 year old games you've been putting off forever. The midrange cards allows you to play the current games at modest framerates without having to break the bank. For $200 I can get a card that will play Crysis, STALKER Clear Sky, etc at a reasonable resolution. Try doing that with a budget card.

    1. Re:Wrong... by jeffmeden · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No problem, take two Radeon 4770 cards ($100 each) on a crossfire motherboard and they will run circles around cards in the $200 range. Together they will use less power than the $200-$300 cards, too. See this for more info.

    2. Re:Wrong... by feepness · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The summary mentions cards below $250.

      I think the problem is the definition is changing. $200 used to be in the lower quadrant. Now it is definitely mid-range. The high-end has dropped out as there is no point to be pushing X trillion pixels.

    3. Re:Wrong... by Itninja · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Yeah that works. But the money you are saving on the card(s) will be more than eaten up by the need to a crossfire compatible board (i.e. one with 2+ PCI x16 slots). Mobos with only a single slot are less than half the price.

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    4. Re:Wrong... by zippthorne · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I haven't paid over $100 for a video card in 12 years. I've always been able to max out the settings in every game I cared to buy that was available by the time I bought the card.

      And in the first half of that period, I really cared about gaming and gaming performance. I'm sure Best Buy would like you to believe that $200 is a low end device, but you're seriously much better off getting a sub-$50 card now, and another sub-$50 card in a years time if you really need to.

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    5. Re:Wrong... by iamhassi · · Score: 5, Interesting

      "For $200 I can get a card that will play Crysis, STALKER Clear Sky, etc at a reasonable resolution. Try doing that with a budget card."

      RTFA Crysis, high settings, 1680x1050... 32.7 fps from the $100 Radeon 4770. Anyone want to argue that 1680x1050 isn't a "reasonable resolution"? And remember this was a benchmark, so no doubt there were 100 guys on the screen moving and shouting and explosions and all that stuff that never really happens when you're playing normally, crouching behind a tree trying not to be sniped.

      If that's not enough, spend another $100 and run 1900x1200 at 43fps

      And we haven't even touched the 20% fps gains from overclocking: "At 1680x1050, with 4xAA, you're looking at a greater-than 20% boost - nothing short of incredible."

      Yes, I bought one and it's amazing for $100. Wonder what I'll be buying in 2-3 yrs? A $70 card?

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    6. Re:Wrong... by winphreak · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I remember that when SLI was new.
      People would buy two mid range cards and it had enough kick to run everything for a few years at a decent rate.

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    7. Re:Wrong... by iamhassi · · Score: 4, Funny

      "I have a beta of StarCraft III (I know a guy)"

      OMG StarCraft III?!? That's amazing considering StarCraft II is still in beta

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    8. Re:Wrong... by log0n · · Score: 3, Informative

      $235 for the SLI plunge here.

      I've got dual 9800 GTs with a Zotac SLI board for $55, each 9800 was $90. Free shipping with the Negg.

    9. Re:Wrong... by interkin3tic · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yeah that works. But the money you are saving on the card(s) will be more than eaten up by the need to a crossfire compatible board (i.e. one with 2+ PCI x16 slots). Mobos with only a single slot are less than half the price.

      Also, uh, wouldn't two cheap memory cards for $100 be about the same as one of the "midrange" $200 memory cards in both performance AND cost?

      $100 x2 = $200?

      I don't know a whole lot about hardware, so maybe multiplication doesn't work the same inside a computer...

    10. Re:Wrong... by jgtg32a · · Score: 2, Informative

      Starcraft is a Blizzard game, their requirements are stupid low

    11. Re:Wrong... by Abreu · · Score: 2, Funny

      Starcraft is a Blizzard game, their requirements are stupid low

      They'd better... I would hate to think I need to upgrade my computers just to have my wife zerg-rush me!

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  3. Wait for the good deal... by carp3_noct3m · · Score: 4, Informative

    As a long time PC gamer, I have come to the conclusion that there are only two reason to upgrade your video card. 1) A new fancy game you must play at high settings to enjoy needs more juice from your rig. 2) You find a good performance to price ratio card that fits your gaming needs. I tend to upgrade about once every year or year and a half. I am currently still running on the BFG OC 8800GT (for $200 in Dec 07). I play everything from the good old stand by counter-strike: source, left 4 dead, call of duty 4, far cry 2, ut3 and many more to the non graphically intense without so much as a hiccup. (I am always looking out for a new game that is worth my money and though I tend to stick to FPS I still like RPGs and MMORPGs and even the occasional RTS) Graphics != Good gameplay.

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    1. Re:Wait for the good deal... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      3) Your current card fails.

      My budget card from 2005 recently started producing artifacts during light use and failing in bigger ways during heavy use. It had served me well. I was unable to play some modern games (e.g. BioShock) but there are so many interesting older games that I still haven't had time to play. It seems like what I gain from the price of a video card diminishes as the selection of games grows.

    2. Re:Wait for the good deal... by BikeHelmet · · Score: 2, Informative

      I have to agree with you. I always wait for the good deals.

      I have an 8800GS, which I picked up for $45 in October 08. Just recently I spied a 9800GT for $60. I was tempted to buy it, but decided not, since all my current games still play fine.

      Left4Dead sure is fun when you get a good team together in Versus. :D

  4. All on one page please.... by Itninja · · Score: 5, Informative
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    1. Re:All on one page please.... by Spikeles · · Score: 4, Informative
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    2. Re:All on one page please.... by drizek · · Score: 2, Informative

      Just use the AutoPager Firefox extension. It loads all the pages for you and you can just scroll down.

  5. YES! Cheaper video cards at last! by gun26 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    As the other components in a PC got steadily cheaper, video cards seem to have stayed stubbornly pricey until recently. But that's changing very fast. I'm astounded by the price/performance breakthroughs we've seen over the last year or so. AMD/ATI deserves full marks for taking the lead on this stuff lately, especially in using a 40 nm process for their GPUs and passing the resulting savings on to the customer.

    Too bad that as a Linux user, I can't really consider running ATI video since their binary drivers seem to be of considerably lower quality than the ones turned out by their arch-rivals at Nvidia.

    By the way, another great article on these new cheaper video cards is at Tom's Hardware: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-geforce-graphics,2296.html

    1. Re:YES! Cheaper video cards at last! by Hatta · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Not cheap enough. Seriously, $150 is a budget card? Hell you can buy an Xbox 360 for that. If I were to buy a $150 video card it would be the single most expensive component of my computer.

      If you're on a budget, and you care about value, you'll get a lot more bang for your buck by simply turning down the quality settings. After all, it's about the game play right?

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    2. Re:YES! Cheaper video cards at last! by gun26 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No, $150 is more midrange than budget, at least in my book. In the Tom's Hardware article I cited, they mention an ATI Radeon HD 4670 for $65 and an Nvidia GeForce 9600 GT for $80. Those are today's budget cards. I've had a 9600GT myself for a little over a year now and it gives me all the performance I need. I paid considerably more than $80 for mine a year ago - the price drop wouldn't have happened without the stiff competition from the HD 4670 and other ATI cards. The point is that we're getting a lot more bang for the buck now than we were a year ago.

      Let's leave the Xbox 360 out of this particular discussion - I don't think anyone could argue that PC gaming is anywhere near console gaming in cost effectiveness. And there ARE other uses for accelerated video besides gaming, you know. :)

    3. Re:YES! Cheaper video cards at last! by CodeBuster · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Or as Richard Stallman says, "Don't buy from ATI, enemy of your freedom"...

    4. Re:YES! Cheaper video cards at last! by TheLink · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Most of us here would already have a PC. That's a sunk cost.

      So the options are:
      a) Buy a game console for game console games
      b) add a video card for 0.5 to 1x the price to be able to play PC games.

      As you can see, it boils down to whether you prefer console games or PC games.

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  6. Re:Extended Windows OS Tax by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    And look how far Tux Racer has advanced in that time!

  7. Re:Extended Windows OS Tax by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 4, Funny

    Haven't had to upgrade my graphics cards in my Linux boxes for the last 5 years...

    Have you been avoiding a Trojan tax all these years, too?

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  8. Re:Radeon 4770 Discontinued by iamhassi · · Score: 4, Informative

    "Radeon 4770 as the best for its price for cards under $150? It's discontinued and you can't buy it from Newegg"

    New here? Radeon 4770 just came out last month. It was even covered on /. 3 weeks ago.

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  9. Re:Radeon 4770 Discontinued by WillyWanker · · Score: 2, Informative

    What kind of conclusion is the Radeon 4770 as the best for its price for cards under $150? It's discontinued and you can't buy it from Newegg, Mwave, or ZipZoomFly. That seems to be a very poor suggestion to recommend a discontinued card that is probably only available used...

    LOL, it's not discontinued. It just came out. You can't buy it from these retailers cause it's SOLD OUT. That's right, selling like hotcakes. But I gots mine . And these guys are calling $250 a *BUDGET* card? Are they INSANE?

  10. Here's a prectical question... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Does anyone know of a video card that doesn't draw much more power than my old Radeon X1650 but is better? I want to upgrade one of my machines, but I don't want to replace the PSU. I'm holding out on a new system until the i7 machines start to come down in price and I see if Windows7 is worth bothering with.

    I actually like playing last year's games. I bought Far Cry 2 for 15 bucks on Steam (they were having some sale a few months back). I like to wait a while before shelling out for the new games because a surprising number of them tend to suck, and the real reviews don't start showing up until well after the release, when most reviewers are drunk on hype.

    The exception are the Half-Life 2 episodes. I buy those right away, hoping that Freeman is finally gonna bone that Alex chick. Now that would be some FPS I could get behind.

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    1. Re:Here's a prectical question... by Nightspirit · · Score: 2, Informative

      If you have a 450w power supply you can run pretty much any mid range and lower card. The HD 4770 uses 80w at max (5w more than the pci-e slot provides, meaning you still have to hook it up to a power supply) which is probably more than the x1650, but lower than most other cards in the same performance range.

    2. Re:Here's a prectical question... by gbarules2999 · · Score: 3, Informative

      The Radeon 4670 is a good budget card that can run nearly everything but the highest end (is Crysis at medium sufficient?), can run on a 300w power supply without any extra attachments, and costs $70 or less.

    3. Re:Here's a prectical question... by Kerith+McLaren · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'd recommend a Radeon HD3850 - they're cheap at the moment (around $70), support directx 10.1, and only use 13.5W at idle and 63.1W under load (http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/radeon-hd3870-hd3850_13.html#sect0). Your current card, (I'm assuming you have the XT, not the Pro), consumes 23W at idle and 55.2W under load (http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/radeon-x1650xt_4.html#sect0).

      If $70 is too much money, or you'd like less power consumption, the Radeon 4650 might be better for you. It goes for around $60 and uses only 30W under load (http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/ati-radeon-hd4650_4.html#sect0). It's not quite as powerful as the 3850 though.

      I have a 3850 and have been able to play most games (like Fallout 3 and Half-Life 2) at the "high" performance level (I don't play many high-end shooters like Crysis, however, so YMMV)

      I agree that buying last year's games are a good idea - by that time the price has usually dropped $10 - $20, most of the bugs have been patched, and often with games like Morrowind and Oblivion, a great deal of mods have sprung up.

      Best of luck with whatever video card you decide on.

  11. Re:Since I don't game.. by gun26 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Especially when it comes to laptops I'd agree with you. Or I would have until I saw how slowly Google Earth ran on my niece's otherwise perfectly capable 1-1/2 year old laptop with integrated Intel video. It was unuseable. My own 4 year old Toshiba Tecra M3 laptop, on the other hand, has Nvidia video - the modestly-performing GeForce Go 6200. Google Earth runs very well on it. And there's other good stuff coming to make use of the graphics chip - Nvidia's VDPAU for video playback is a good example.

  12. eVGA GTX260 216 SC and CUDA by StarHeart · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I just bought a eVGA GTX260 216(core) SC at Fry's for $200+$20 tax. But it had a mail in rebate for $50. Which will bring the price down to $150+$20 tax. I bought it not as a gaming card, but as a second CUDA card. I already had a PNY GTX260(192 core).

    CUDA doesn't play nice with regular graphics usage. Your machine will be really jerky every few seconds. I also didn't have room in my main computer, motherboard or power supply wise. So I put it in my second desktop that I use for iSCSI and a third monitor via synergy. The machine already had a 6600GT, which then became the secondary card. I run X off it. Which leaves the eVGA card just for CUDA. Then I can run it all day and not even notice a performance hit.

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  13. Toms Hardware Monthly Feature by dinsdale3 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Tom's hardware does a best graphics card for the money every month with a breakdown for various pricing tiers. It also has a hierarchy chart that groups cards by performance levels, which helps to compare different models other than the "best" for each category.

    Here's the one for May. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-geforce-graphics,2296.html

  14. Product names by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Geforce 260... that can't be much better than Geforce 256, can it?

    (Hint: Maybe it's around time NVidia thought a new product name.)

  15. Re:Sub-$50 card by Mal-2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't really care if it improves on the GPU speed, I just need dual-link DVI to properly drive a resolution of 2048x1152. Analog is annoying, though surprisingly adequate given the six foot extension cable in the signal path. It's slightly worse than it was without the extension, but it was worth it to exile the computer to another room (and keep all the goodies in here).

    Whether a card's DVI links are single or double is something that generally is omitted from reviews, much to my consternation.

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  16. Budget? by sc0ob5 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Maybe I have a different opinion on what budget is.. Less than $100USD.. Here I was thinking that I'd read a hardware review on slashdot that may actually be useful to me. Alas no.

  17. Re:Sub-$50 card by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Every time I think "Maybe now is the time when I can get a decent ATI driver" I'm disappointed. Maybe this is the time? But you chance it, I'm buying an nVidia card.

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  18. Re:Sub-$50 card by Mycroft_VIII · · Score: 2, Informative

    Be carefull with the 3 and 4k series, they were designed for pci-e only (not shure, but think the 2k series is the same) and they only do agp with a bridge chip of some sort and there have been issues, and ati doesn't support those configurations (you're pretty much stuck with the vendors custom version of the radeon drivers).

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  19. I'd consider it more valid by sa1lnr · · Score: 2, Insightful

    if they tested "budget" cards on a "budget" system.

    I'm sure lots of people that buy i7/X58 with 6GB of DDR3 put budget cards in their top end system. ;)

  20. Re:Sub-$50 card by malkavian · · Score: 2, Informative

    I bought an ATI card, and having no problems with it (4870). I used to be NVidia only and lived in fear of the ATI messes. AT the moment, I'm quite happy with it.
    Still, buy what you're happy with; just throwing in a point of view of a non-fanboy who's seen both sides of it and is quite content with both.

  21. Open Source, Under $100, Games Capable? by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 2, Interesting

    While on the subject, I would like to ask a question. Obviously, I could do the research myself, but someone probably knows the answer from the top of their heads. So here is the question:

      - Is there any current graphics card that sells for under 100 USD, and has open source drivers that allow decent gaming? Preferably passively cooled.

    I have a GeForce 6600 (passively cooled) now, which I am happy with in terms of performance. But that's using the closed source driver. With Intel, VIA, and AMD having open source accelerated 3D, is there a video card I can buy now that has the same or better performance, but using open source drivers?

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  22. My general guide to pricing by Spatial · · Score: 2, Insightful

    $250 a *BUDGET* card? Are they INSANE?

    Yes. All review sites are like that, completely unable to comprehend money in any realistic sense. They're little more than hype machines with only a few exceptions.

    In my mind the GPU lineup goes something like this:
    <80: Low end
    80-150: Mid range
    150-220: High end
    >220: Crazy


    If you're on such a tight budget that 80 is too much, there's no point in getting a graphics card. Just get a motherboard with an integrated GPU from AMD or Nvidia. They can still do HD decoding and all that good stuff.

    For most people, a 9600GT or HD4770 is absolutely fine. They're 80 and 100 dollars respectively and will do a good job at most games at 1440x900. If you want to run everything at max settings, get a HD4850 for 130.

    If you have a large monitor (1920x1200 or more) and still want high settings at native resolution, get a HD4870 1GB or GTX 260 Core 216 for 190.

    That's as high as it goes before you start losing value for money. Unless you're doing something weird there's no need to spend any more than 200, so just forget about the crazy range if you have any sense.

  23. Re:Sub-$50 card by Mr.+DOS · · Score: 2, Informative

    I poked around on Newegg a bit, and found the SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 3850. It's $100 plus shipping, but it has dual-link DVI and it's almost undoubtedly more powerful than your existing card (which is nice, even if you don't need it). The VisionTek Radeon HD 2400PRO would probably work too, if you'd rather not spend $100, but there seem to be a lot of complaints about driver compatibility.

    Now I want one of the HD 3850's.

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