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Empirical Study Shows DRM Encourages Infringement

Hucko writes "Ars Technica has a story about a study by Cambridge law professor Patricia Akester that suggests (declares?) that DRM and its ilk does persuade citizens to infringe copyright and circumvent authors' protections. The name of the study is 'Technological accommodation of conflicts between freedom of expression and DRM: the first empirical assessment.'" The study itself is available for download (PDF); there's also a distillation here.

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  1. and the pirates win again by DragonTHC · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ARRRRR!

    seriously who didn't know this was the case?

    someone has to crack that DRM just for the sake of cracking it.

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    1. Re:and the pirates win again by Ogive17 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I wouldn't say I necessarily believe it. The majority of users probably have no idea what DRM is and are thus unaffected. Those that do know what DRM is will either buy the software anyway and deal with it, buy the software then download a cracked version, or forego paying entirely and just download the cracked version.

      I'd be more likely believe the percentage of people who skip paying and just download the cracked version hasn't changed much over the years.

      Give me a few years and a grand for $1,000,000 and I'll do a study that proves this. Just like there have been studies that have also shown that DRM lowers piracy... and this one that shows DRM increases piracy. Now we need a study that shows DRM doesn't affect piracy.

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    2. Re:and the pirates win again by rodrigoandrade · · Score: 5, Insightful

      > The majority of users probably have no idea what DRM is and are thus unaffected.

      They may not know what DRM is, but it surely affects them when they buy a DVD movie only to find out it doesn't play on whatever device it is they're trying to play it on. Even NASA fell in the DRM trap.

    3. Re:and the pirates win again by T+Murphy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      seriously who didn't know this was the case?

      (insert name of media corporation here)

    4. Re:and the pirates win again by DangerFace · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The majority of users probably have no idea what DRM is and are thus unaffected. Those that do know what DRM is will either buy the software anyway and deal with it, buy the software then download a cracked version, or forego paying entirely and just download the cracked version.

      Then of course there are the majority of users that have been unable to get a game to work because of DRM, whether they knew it was there or not. And the people who don't have a music collection anymore because some servers got turned off, so now they just torrent. Or the people who can't get a DVD in their region, so just pirate it instead.

      I agree, most people aren't like me - I buy what I can if it isn't DRMed to hell, mainly to make a point (albeit a tiny little one) to the companies that do it. But everyone I know has had problems with legit games, and when people learn that the only reason they're having those problems is because they wanted to reward a company for delivering a product, they'll stop. It's been years since I had a serious issue with installing or playing a pirated game. If the big companies started making ease of use more of a big deal than the pirates, there'd be a lot less 'piracy from necessity', as I like to call it.

      Bottom line is, your standard pirate copy says 'Install, firewall, copy crack, play indefinitely' when to get the equivalent from even the standard very-little-DRM game means you need a magic CD that never gets scratched and never gets lost.

    5. Re:and the pirates win again by Asic+Eng · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The majority of users are also affected when they have to sit through the "FBI warning" nonsense which are afflicted solely on legitimate buyers.

    6. Re:and the pirates win again by hairyfeet · · Score: 5, Insightful

      For a really goo example, see here. I myself have stopped buying games that I don't find a crack for first, thus making sure the games companies can only sell me games when they have dropped in price. Why? Because just as with the link I provided way too many times I have set there and watched that damned SecuROM screen pop up even though I HAVE the stupid %^%#^$$# disc in the drive!

      Of course, now that I have switched to XP X64, cracking the games I paid good money for is no longer a simple desire not to have to keep the %^%#^$$# disc in the drive, that maybe works 50/50 for me anyway, but one of necessity. Because while the games play wonderfully in XP X64, their %^%#^$$# DRM doesn't work. So I HAVE to crack the %^%#^$$# game just so I can actually use what I fricking paid for. And just like the gamer I linked to(just look at the amount of game boxes surrounding him. That is a serious paying customer they are boning) their DRM for me just makes me jump through damned hoops so I can have the "privilege" of giving them money while the pirates laugh their asses off and don't have the hassle.

      Is it any wonder more and more people pirate? It is because you are screwing your customers! And it is 2009 and I have big fat HDDs! I should NOT have to change %^%#^$$# discs when I want to play a game. if I wanted that I would have bought a Fricking PS2! And please don't mention Steam. As someone who had his $50 stolen by Valve over the HL:GoTY Edition I will never use that damned ripoff! Look up HL:GoTY Edition and ripoff and you will see Valve burned a LOT of folks. pretty much if you buy anything in a nice retail box from Valve they can rip you off and ANY time and refuse to give you what you paid for. No thanks!

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    7. Re:and the pirates win again by stewbacca · · Score: 5, Informative

      The majority of users probably have no idea what DRM is and are thus unaffected.

      I believe the sentiment of the study is that BECAUSE people aren't aware of DRM, they still do things that are illegal, according to the DRM. I don't believe most people go out of their way to infringe--they just do by the nature of using their content in the context of the current laws.

    8. Re:and the pirates win again by fluffernutter · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think this issue is even bigger then that. The internet has become big and popular and widespread enough to challenge the standard rules of the capitalist system itself. People don't have to be slaves to it any more, at least where any media that can be represented in a digital form is concerned. A fundamental law of the universe is that anything is that most objects/energy/lifeforms will take the path of least resistance and that is what is happening. Well, except for the person who cracks the software who becomes negligible in the grand scheme of things. They do it for the fun of allowing thousands to take the path of least resistance. The providers of the media are left floundering around trying to stick to the capitalist system but it is in itself obsolete.

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    9. Re:and the pirates win again by Lord+Bitman · · Score: 3, Informative

      googled "HL:GoTY Edition ripoff", not seeing it. Link?

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    10. Re:and the pirates win again by perryizgr8 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      yeah, i don't download hidef movies off piratebay because i don't wan't to pay for them. i do it because i don't want to buy a blu ray player, i dont want to use vista, i don't want to sit through all the trailers and other crap, i don't want to carry around a bunch of discs, i don't want to waste an hour to go to the store. i want to WATCH the movie. if a legit online store would allow me to do this, i would pay. because i would be assured of quality, a thing which i don't get from piratebay.

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    11. Re:and the pirates win again by FlyingBishop · · Score: 3, Informative

      And why was the codec for the built-in DVD player not installed? DRM licensing.

    12. Re:and the pirates win again by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yes, but you only have to do it once.

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    13. Re:and the pirates win again by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That time belongs to me, not to them. Why should they be able to dictate what I watch? Just another reason to format-shift.

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    14. Re:and the pirates win again by MadCow42 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The FBI warning is just the start... often there are minutes of crap before a movie that you can't get past. It's most annoying on my kids' videos - essentially advertising for other videos from the same company, and there's no way to get past it without re-ripping the DVD.

      I refuse to buy from companies like that now - they shouldn't control my time like that. What I really am annoyed at though is that my DVD player enables them to do it in the first place.

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    15. Re:and the pirates win again by Firethorn · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Lacking cable and unwilling to pay for it, I'm currently watching airbender on DVD from netflix.

      First there's the FBI warning. For like 30 seconds. Then there's no less than 6 segments of spongebob advertising that I can't skip to go to the menu to play the more interesting, slightly more adult anime.

      If I'd downloaded it off the internet, it would have been free and advertising free.

      What advantage does getting the legal copy give me again?

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    16. Re:and the pirates win again by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'd bet that ripping the DVD takes more than a minute.

      You spend a few seconds setting it up, and it runs while you're making popcorn. Then you can stick the disc in the closet and watch your movie across the LAN without being forced to sit through propaganda every time you watch. It's a good deal more convenient, even if you do own the original media.

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    17. Re:and the pirates win again by steelcaress · · Score: 2, Informative

      Um...yes! When I first got my son's computer, he couldn't play DVDs on his DVD player. WinXP didn't recognize it. I DL'd VIDEOLAN a few minutes later, but it was still annoying.

    18. Re:and the pirates win again by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Or you can just stick the disc in the player, go make popcorn and when it's ready the movie has reached menu. What's so difficult about it?

      I'm not talking about media you purchase, but media you rent.


      Ripping it is faster, more convenient and removes the corporate propaganda. If I can't remove the propaganda, I won't watch it at all, and I won't let my kid watch it.

      You would be surprised how jarring it is once you've freed yourself from it... like someone who grew up in the city going camping for a month in the wilderness, then coming home to realize that they've had people shouting in their ears their whole life and that they never realized how much their thinking had been muddled and their senses numbed by what was being done to them until they finally got free of it.

      Once you actually experience it for yourself, you start to feel like someone who just realized they've been abused their whole life and didn't know.

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    19. Re:and the pirates win again by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 5, Informative

      I think you are putting way to much stock in how a few minutes of advertising can adversely affect your life. Just ignore them, fast forward, or hit the DVD Menu button and skip all that crap. Seriously the only way to avoid all of what you call "corporate propaganda" is to live in a cave, never buy anything and live a completely self-sufficient life, never have any contact with the outside world, never again read anything, listen to anything, or watch anything. Then you would truly be "free" of the corporate shackles. (As a bonus you could also realize that you've had people shouting in your ears their whole life and that you never realized how much your thinking had been muddled - in the silence of your cave.)

      Ahh... now you're telling me it's impossible and/or impractical. Which is great, because it just so happens I already did it. As a matter of fact, I wrote a series of pieces for members of an eating disorder recovery group on how to avoid all the negative imagery and get healthier. It's on a private forum, so I'll just stick it in here.

      --//--

      How to avoid advertisements on the web:

      If you're not using Firefox, you should be.

      http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/

      Once you've got Firefox, you should install tools to protect you from advertising. First one is Adblock Plus

      https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1865

      This lets you block advertisements, and is configurable.

      Next, if you want to block particular sites completely, you can use this tool, called BlockSite:

      https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3145

      After you've done all this, you can customize Google to remove certain items you don't want to see with the CustomizeGoogle add on.

      https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/743

      With this tool, you can remove advertisements, filter out sites you don't ever want to see in your search results, and remove google tracking. Which may screw up Muses website statistics tracking, but will prevent you from becoming a target for advertisements specifically related to eating disorders and dieting etc.

      If you take the time to install and set up these tools, you will be amazed at the difference.

      --//--

      How to avoid advertisements in your mail:

      First, install Thunderbird:

      http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/

      This mail reader has a built in spam blocker that learns how to identify spam as you mark things as spam/not spam. This will go a long way towards keeping your mailbox advertisement free.

      Once you've got that installed, you want to be using it to read your web based mail, like Hotmail, Yahoo, GMail, etc.

      So you need to install the Webmail add on.

      http://webmail.mozdev.org/

      Once you've installed this, you'll be able to view your mail from all these websites without having to see their banners and other assorted crap.

      After this is all done, you should set up folders for every piece of mail you expect to receive, and filters to automatically move them there. This will prefilter your pile, and your learning spam filters will also prefilter.

      Between the two, you'll have an ever shrinking pile of messages that "might" be spam to wade through and mark as "is spam" or "is not spam".

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      How to avoid advertising in your multimedia:

      Stop paying for cable television. Disconnect your service, and use the money you save to buy a DVD burner for backup, a video card for your computer that supports TV-Out, and a large external hard drive that you can use to carry files to and from your fr

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    20. Re:and the pirates win again by MightyYar · · Score: 3, Informative

      Well, I rarely watch a DVD more than once.

      You DEFINITELY don't have kids, and you probably aren't married :)

      My daughter watches the same 3 things over and over, and my wife is not much better :)

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    21. Re:and the pirates win again by MightyYar · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What advantage does getting the legal copy give me again?

      Warm fuzzies?

      Yeah, it's especially rude if you have kids. You generally want some video entertainment for when you are on the road, which means either lugging around a bunch of DVDs or ripping them all to a portable player. This can literally take days, depending on how you do the transcode.

      The easiest path? Google for a "Dora" torrent and get every episode ever in AVI format, free of commercials... playable by anything and it will all fit on one $20 USB stick.

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    22. Re:and the pirates win again by Runaway1956 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Cool - you can mock ten seconds. What if it were ten minutes? And the DVD forced you to watch those ten minutes. Circumventing those ten minutes of instructive warning from the FBI/MPAA becomes illegal. Fast forwarding is disabled, and finding a way to enable fast forward past the warning makes you liable for a ten year prison sentence.

      At what point would you revolt?

      The whole point of the controversy is, "rights holders" are infringing on the rights of users, in the name of "rights enforcement". Without the activists, pirates, and lawyers, what do you think the state of "enforcement" would be today? Had Sony gotten away with their rootkits, how long do you think it would have taken for all the other "rights holders" to pull similar tricks? Your computer could be "phoning home" to as many as 100 corporate websites continuously to report on your activities.

      Given free reign, the various copyright and patent trolls would have declared that you can't own a computer, DVD player, MP3 player, or even a telephone by now. You could only lease anything capable of reading digital media, constantly monitored, and subject to recall if you break any TOS imposed by the *iaa's of the world.

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    23. Re:and the pirates win again by nospam007 · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Even NASA fell in the DRM trap."

      Orbiting people have their own problems.
      Now we're in region 1. Now region 2, region 3, 4 5...

    24. Re:and the pirates win again by Dragoness+Eclectic · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The majority of users probably have no idea what DRM is and are thus unaffected

      That wasn't true 5 years ago for music, which is why vendors are dropping DRM'd formats--they don't sell as well as plain old MP3s. It's currently becoming a big deal for E-books, because the cutting-edge of E-publishing is Romance & Erotica-- and R&E readers frequently aren't the kind of people who want to chase down pirate versions or DRM-cracking software; they just want to read their E-books without hassle. They perceive DRM as an increasing hassle, and are voting with their wallets and comments on forums like Smart Bitches, Trashy Books about Amazon's Kindle DRM and any other scheme that doesn't let them read their already purchased E-books on the device of their choice, when they want to, where they want to. Once they've been bitten by the downsides of DRM, they don't bother with cracked or pirated editions; they just don't buy from publishers that load their E-books down with DRM.

      This is not a small niche market. This is the single largest-selling genre in publishing. You do not want to piss that many readers off if you want to stay in business.

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    25. Re:and the pirates win again by shambalagoon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I had the exact same experience. I bought the first Avatar DVD, with a plan to buy the rest. But when I put it in, it forced me to watch commercial after commercial. After about 10 minutes of this, I got fed up, boxed it back up, and returned it. My plan now is to download a pirated version that just lets me watch the show I was gladly willing to pay for.

    26. Re:and the pirates win again by Chosen+Reject · · Score: 5, Insightful

      How about this 'what if' scenario:

      Imagine it is 1985 and /. is running an article about how the movie The Cotton Club can't be recorded from one VCR to another. You say,

      It doesn't stop you from recording your decaying tape if you have a macrovision free VCR, and most of them are.

      Runaway1956 posts:

      Yeah, but what if they introduced encryption and then made it illegal to circumvent that encryption.

      Now choose carefully. Do you:

      A) stand up for yourself and say the media companies have gone too far
      or
      B) say "you can't just make up arbitrary realities"

      Congratulations. You chose B. Welcome to the real world, where if you don't stand up for your rights at even the smallest infraction, those stepping on your rights will continue down that path until your reality is based on their arbitrary actions.

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    27. Re:and the pirates win again by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 2, Informative

      Don't feed the troll. Stewbacca is a well known MAFIAA shill.

  2. It's true! by Drakkenmensch · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I never pirated any games until the day my storebought copy of Doom 3 flat out *refused* to work on my computer because the installer was convinced my setup meant I was going to make illegal copies of it. I got pissed off even more when movie DVDs started refusing to run in my laptop as well.

    1. Re:It's true! by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I pirated a piece of software just a week ago: it's a very specialized database application on steels that refuses to work if it doesn't find the original CD in the drive. Very useful indeed to use on a CD-less notebook... And I paid the damn thing almost $500!

      Needless to say, a NOP has found its way into the executable. For the next version, I'll pay the license, but I'll download the ISO from emule, which not only doesn't require the CD, but also doesn't require the activation key.

      This is the strange world of software and movies: when you're honest, you're hassled. If you pirate, your life suddenly becomes a lot easier.

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    2. Re:It's true! by mcvos · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is the strange world of software and movies: when you're honest, you're hassled. If you pirate, your life suddenly becomes a lot easier.

      That's exactly the problem with DRM. It only hurts paying customers. If you don't want to get hurt, you need to get the cracked version. They're driving honest customers away.

    3. Re:It's true! by houstonbofh · · Score: 2, Funny

      Don't forget risk. You get more Trojans from legitimate software these days. Just ask Sony.

    4. Re:It's true! by Pieroxy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      This is the strange world of software and movies: when you're honest, you're hassled. If you pirate, your life suddenly becomes a lot easier.

      To be fair, it's always been the case in every other field. It's easier not to pay taxes than to pay taxes. It's easier to steal your DVD than to wait in line for the cashier. That is, once you've defeated the stealing protection.

      It's easier to follow no rules than it is to live by the law in general.

      This is not entirely linked to DRM, you're stating here a fact of life.

  3. Empirical, right? by Kensai7 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I hope the adjective "empirical" is not there to hide unscientific or statistically weak methods... She's a lawyer professor afterall... sort of a scientist who talks her results out!

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    1. Re:Empirical, right? by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Your coffee cup is a container. The implication of "content" is that a CD, DVD, etc. is a container also. When you buy it, you're not after the container, you're after the content.

  4. At last by Shrike82 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Good to see someone has taken a scientific approach to this for once instead of hyperbole, exaggeration and assumption like we normally see (from both sides I might add).

    Also, it's funny how DRM has become automatically negative. The reasons are obvious, but as I've said before many times, DRM can be a positive thing. I'll cite the much debated Steam argument again. Once I buy a game, DRM (positive DRM) allows me to redownload whenever I want, and to play it on any computer whenever and wherever I want. There are some advantages to DRM but of course they're over-shadowed by the many drawbacks and disadvantages from DRM's restrictive aspects.

    And can we please not turn this into a "Steam sucks!" - "No YOU suck!" debate again? It was just an example.

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    1. Re:At last by Merls+the+Sneaky · · Score: 5, Informative

      What happens when steam goes bust? And don't give me the "we will patch authentication out if we go under" crap. If they are going under they will not be releasing patches to strip the authentication as noone will be getting paid to perfom such a job.

      DRM is always evil.

    2. Re:At last by bumby · · Score: 5, Insightful

      How is this related to DRM? magnatune.com gives you the same service (download whatever you bought whenever you want, wherever you are) without DRM.

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    3. Re:At last by silanea · · Score: 5, Interesting

      What happens when steam goes bust?

      What has happened every time digital restrictions interfered with the desire to use some content: Someone will break the protection. In Steam's case this has already happened for many games.

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    4. Re:At last by Rogerborg · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What happens when steam goes bust?

      You lose access to your content, of course. Wow, it turns out that there really are stupid questions. Here, I'll ask one too: will Steam ever go away?

      Stupid answer to that stupid question: yes, of course it will, sooner or later. The smart question are: when is steam likely to go away, and what are the practical losses when it does? For bonus credits, consider that the majority of your content on it wouldn't have been played again anyway, and whether that loss is worth more than the benefits.

      As well as the clear benefits listed above, there's also the consideration that the Steam pricing model sends much more money to the actual developer than a shelf-on-a-box purchase, and that it gives developers a level playing field on which to compete, rather than having to struggle against Corporate Sports Sequel 2009 for limited shelf space.

      Steam demonstrates that DRM doesn't have to mean "You don't have rights to play that game". It can mean "Hey, you do have the right to download and play this game, anywhere you want, any time you want. Go ahead!".

      Now, would you like to have a grown up conversation, or are we going to stick with slinging slogans around?

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    5. Re:At last by Culture20 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Too many DRM schemes (with companies that still operate) have already gone under and taken the protected files with them. Relying on the promises of a company instead of a contract is ridiculous. They're handing you sales fluff and you're eating it up. I would love to buy a lot of steam-only games, but _never_ will, because I want to play them X years from now.

      BTW, you can't stop a "Steam sucks" thread in an anti-DRM post.

    6. Re:At last by Ephemeriis · · Score: 2, Informative

      What happens when steam goes bust? And don't give me the "we will patch authentication out if we go under" crap. If they are going under they will not be releasing patches to strip the authentication as noone will be getting paid to perfom such a job.

      DRM is always evil.

      I do agree that DRM is always evil. No doubts about it.

      But, if I am going to get saddled with DRM (and these days, I am) I'd rather get saddles with something like Steam. Yeah, the DRM-y bits suck... But there's also some value added. Unlike other DRM schemes that just suck completely, and don't add anything at all.

      As for your question...

      Well, there have been several occasions in the pas where failing companies have released patches to remove DRM or have open-sourced their codebase. So I wouldn't rule out the possibility completely. However, Steam is more of a distribution platform... And I don't think Valve could really release patches for other people's games. That'd be more up to the individual publishers to do... And I doubt if there'd be a terribly concerted movement to remove the DRM. It'd more likely be a concerted movement to make people re-purchase their games some other way, with a different DRM scheme installed.

      However, Steam isn't all that hard to bypass. Most games released on Steam have a crack available within a week. So, should Steam go belly-up, I doubt if it would have much impact. Folks could very easily crack their games, burn backups, and call it done. They'll be no worse-off than if they'd purchased a retail disc with some sort of on-disc DRM that they didn't like.

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    7. Re:At last by geminidomino · · Score: 2, Interesting

      So you totally disagree with me that until your hypothetical situation whereby Steam dies and cuts users off we enjoy some positive benefits from the way Steam manages our digital rights to games?

      I know I do.

      I find more positive benefits in not having to worry about Steam, EA, or anyone else "managing my digital rights to games." The one advantage (able to download onto another system when away from the main one) is not remotely worth the losses

    8. Re:At last by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Technology that restricts peoples access to knowledge and culture is evil. There is no justification for its existence that isn't derived from someones desire to create a hostile and unfriendly environment, then charge people for relief from the consequences of that environment. That is a fundamentally evil thing.

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    9. Re:At last by Spatial · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Once I buy a game, DRM (positive DRM) allows me to redownload whenever I want, and to play it on any computer whenever and wherever I want. There are some advantages to DRM but of course they're over-shadowed by the many drawbacks and disadvantages from DRM's restrictive aspects.

      Eh? The DRM in Steam isn't what is allowing you to download the games anywhere. That's an entirely unrelated feature. The DRM restricts the game to running and authenticating through Steam and nothing else.

      Steam without DRM would work exactly the same as it does now, the only exception being that you could run games without authenticating online with the Steam client. That's exactly how it works if you crack a game you bought through Steam.

    10. Re:At last by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      it's lose! LOSE fucking LOSE!!! what is so fucking hard about that, man!?!

      half of slashdot has .sigs about this and still you can't get it right!

    11. Re:At last by DAldredge · · Score: 2, Interesting

      How is a service like Rhapsody or Netflix instant watch evil?

    12. Re:At last by smbell · · Score: 4, Informative

      Apparently you just want DRM to mean whatever you want. DRM (Digital Rights Management) is by definition a restriction of use built into a digital item (file). The Magntune example has nothing to do with DRM. The only way you could possible stretch DRM into that space would be to claim that DRM includes any means of tracking anything you use, and would include anything that has an account you sign into (OMG Slashdot is using DRM on my posts!1!).

      DMR specifically restricts (manages) what you can do (rights) with a (digital) file. It is not, and cannot, be a positive thing from a consumer perspective ever.

    13. Re:At last by s73v3r · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The only way to avoid the things you've stated is to become a hermit in a cave who communicates with others via carrier pigeon and keeps all his money in his mattress. Unfortunately in today's society, you have to have some level of trust in the companies you deal with. Steam has never given me a reason not to trust them. I realize that there are people who have been burned by Steam and now choose to avoid it, but not me. I trust that Valve will be around for a long time, because they make quality games that are fun to play, and seem more focused on doing that then trying to shovel as many titles out the door as possible. Because of that, I believe that Steam will be kept around until long after my gf/wife forces me to stop playing video game.

  5. Hurry... by Clipless · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The RIAA better discredit Dr. Akester before this gets pickup by a major news source.
    Actually I take that back. Everybody knows that there is now room for science and research when it comes to lobbying!
    What was I thinking?

    1. Re:Hurry... by 91degrees · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This would be a totally illogical thing for the RIAA to do.

      Their purpose is to represent the interests of the record industry. Not to force DRM on everybody unless that is in the interests of the record industry. This article insists that it isn't.

      This is not to say the RIAA won't do this. just that it would be illogical.

  6. DRM is pushing me towards piracy by Andy+Smith · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I stopped buying PC games about a year ago due to DRM technologies such as SecuROM and StarForce, because of the faults they can cause when burning CDs, which is an essential part of my job.

    Last month I bought a new mid-spec laptop and went shopping for an "old" game that would run on it, and I settled on Civ4. After buying it, I discovered that it too uses SecuROM so I will not install it. Instead, I think it's morally (and legally?) acceptable to download a pirate copy without DRM.

    A couple of weeks ago my girlfriend and I both bought The Sims 2. Neither copy worked! I've since discovered that the copy-protection on the DVD is known to cause installation errors, and one of the recommended workarounds is to install the disk imaging software Alcohol, and this indeed allowed us to install the game. Alcohol can of course be very useful for people who want to pirate games.

    I feel like games publishers are pushing me towards pirating their products. I don't want DRM to harm my system, and if the only way I can play a purchased game is to pirate it then how long will it be before I skip the purchasing?

    1. Re:DRM is pushing me towards piracy by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Last month I bought a new mid-spec laptop and went shopping for an "old" game that would run on it, and I settled on Civ4. After buying it, I discovered that it too uses SecuROM so I will not install it. Instead, I think it's morally (and legally?) acceptable to download a pirate copy without DRM.

      Morally, yes. Legally? Forget it. The uploader violated the law by distributing illegal copies. You violated the law by downloading and burning, thereby making an illegal copy. Remember what copyright is: it's a legal right to copy, literally. Also, usnig a Alcohol to make an image of the DVD is probably also a violation of the law, though the Software Act of 1980 does allow for you to make a copy for archival purposes and as an essential step in executing the program. Whether imaging the DVD can be viewed as "an essential step" or not depends on how good your lawyer is. ;)

    2. Re:DRM is pushing me towards piracy by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 2, Informative

      Um... It's only specifically illegal to distribute copies.

      No, that's just completely incorrect. You should really consult a lawyer rather than rely on "he said, she said" in forums on Slashdot.

      Here is the relevant law, Title 17, Chapter 1 Â 106 US Code: Exclusive rights in copyrighted works:

      Subject to sections 107 through 122, the owner of copyright under this title has the exclusive rights to do and to authorize any of the following:
      (1) to reproduce the copyrighted work in copies or phonorecords;
      (2) to prepare derivative works based upon the copyrighted work;
      (3) to distribute copies or phonorecords of the copyrighted work to the public by sale or other transfer of ownership, or by rental, lease, or lending;
      (4) in the case of literary, musical, dramatic, and choreographic works, pantomimes, and motion pictures and other audiovisual works, to perform the copyrighted work publicly;
      (5) in the case of literary, musical, dramatic, and choreographic works, pantomimes, and pictorial, graphic, or sculptural works, including the individual images of a motion picture or other audiovisual work, to display the copyrighted work publicly; and
      (6) in the case of sound recordings, to perform the copyrighted work publicly by means of a digital audio transmission.

      (empahsis mine). Only the copyright holder can make copies. As you (and the above0quoted text) allude to, there are limitations on these exclusive rights under Title 17, Chapter 1 Â 106:

      (a) Making of Additional Copy or Adaptation by Owner of Copy.â" Notwithstanding the provisions of section 106, it is not an infringement for the owner of a copy of a computer program to make or authorize the making of another copy or adaptation of that computer program provided:
      (1) that such a new copy or adaptation is created as an essential step in the utilization of the computer program in conjunction with a machine and that it is used in no other manner, or
      (2) that such new copy or adaptation is for archival purposes only and that all archival copies are destroyed in the event that continued possession of the computer program should cease to be rightful.

      However, note the emphasized text: only if it is an essential step. Pirating a game for the purpose of running a game, even one that you legitimately purchased, doesn't fall under this exception. An "essential step" would include loading it onto a hard drive or the copy that is made in RAM when it is loaded from the hard drive, etc. Getting a cracked version from The Pirate Bay does not count as an essential step.

      IANAL, and YMMV.

    3. Re:DRM is pushing me towards piracy by Stavr0 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I discovered that [Civilization4] too uses SecuROM so I will not install it. Instead, I think it's morally (and legally?) acceptable to download a pirate copy without DRM. [...] I've since discovered that the copy-protection on the [Sims2] DVD is known to cause installation errors, and one of the recommended workarounds is to install the disk imaging software Alcohol, and this indeed allowed us to install the game.

      Is this what constitutes infringement according to the author? There doesn't appear to be any copyright infringement here, it is justifiable fair use. In the US, it could be a DMCA infringement.

  7. The conclusions of the study by jonaskoelker · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Here are the conclusions of the study:

    1) Although DRM has not impacted on many acts permitted by law,
          certain permitted acts are being adversely affected by the use of
          DRM;
    2) This is in spite of the existence of technological solutions
          (enabling partitioning and authentication of users) to
          accommodate those permitted acts (privileged exceptions);
    3) Beneficiaries of privileged exceptions who have been prevented
          from carrying out those permitted acts (because of the
          employment of DRM) have not used the complaints mechanism
          set out in UK law;
    4) Article 6(4) of the Information Society Directive put an onus on
          content owners to accommodate privileged exceptions
          voluntarily. Voluntary measures have emerged in the publishing
          field, but not all content owners are ready to act unless they are
          told to do so by regulatory authorities.

    My commentary:

    1) As far as I can tell, DRM for the most part also hasn't had a noticeable impact on the uses not permitted by law. In other words: DRM only harms the customers, not the pirates.

    2) As the record has shown in various court cases, the media companies are a bunch of assholes. Of course they're not going to care if little Ms. Teacher wants to (fairly!) use some copyrighted piece of work in hear lessons. They have "Power!! Unlimited POWAH!!!!"

    3) What, there's a complaints mechanism? That would have been pretty good if people knew about it and used it.

    4) Wait, what??? The DRM control freaks are supposed to voluntarily give up control? That sounds like a misunderstanding of human psychology. Also, quote The Matrix 2 (too bad they never made any sequels): "[Oracle] What do all men with power want? [Neo] ... [Oracle] More power".

  8. Even BBC's Have Your Say has got the plot by pzs · · Score: 4, Interesting

    We're accustomed on Slashdot to saying that the general public is not aware of the issues surrounding DRM and file sharing. However, this debate seems to suggest otherwise. I know the HYS debates are often full of ranting morons but it is still an audience of non-experts. Looking at the most recommended comments there seem to be quite a few people who know what's going on.

  9. How much did this guy get paid to do this study? by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People prefer files that aren't troublesome to play and aren't tied to some publisher's good will, to files that are troublesome to play and tied to some publisher's good will. News at 11...

    --
    "A door is what a dog is perpetually on the wrong side of" - Ogden Nash
  10. Interesting? by cashman73 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not to be a troll here or anything, but where's the correlationisnotcausation tag? ;-)

  11. Headstrong.mp3 by PinkyDead · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My daughter wanted Ashley Tisdale's Headstrong on her iPod. (Please no comments - I'm ashamed enough as it is).

    We can't get it from iTunes because we use Ubuntu.

    We can't get the mp3 from Amazon.com because you have to be US resident.

    We can't get it from Amazon.co.uk because you have to have a UK billing address.

    We can't get it from Amazon.ie because that doesn't exist.

    So I have a choice, buy the whole album on CD from Play.com or pirate it....

    I'm getting a bit sick of this malarkey where I'm told what I can and can't buy with my money. Obviously, I accept the principle that Xyz has the rights to sell something in this market, but if Xyz won't sell it to me then I say screw Xyz.

    So this news doesn't surprise me - the more you tighten your fingers yada yada yada...

    --
    Genesis 1:32 And God typed :wq!
    1. Re:Headstrong.mp3 by PinkyDead · · Score: 3, Informative
      --
      Genesis 1:32 And God typed :wq!
    2. Re:Headstrong.mp3 by Sloppy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      So I have a choice, buy the whole album on CD from Play.com or pirate it....

      Waitaminute, here's what I don't get. What's wrong with buying the CD? Most (all?) CDs these days don't have any DRM on them. They just plain work, no matter what country you're in and without any proprietary software.

      I understand movie piracy, where non-DRM content simply isn't on the market -- they simply aren't interested in selling playable content (presumably because they don't want any money). But for music, DRM was just an ephemeral experiment whose echoes have nearly died out. The music companies are back in business.

      So why go the pirate route?

      Is this an iPod issue, where you can't encode the CDDA into an iPod-playable file without violating a patent (because they still can't play Vorbis) or that you have to use iTunes to get the software into their directory, or something like that?

      --
      As copyright owner of this comment, I authorize everyone to defeat any technological measure which limits access to it.
  12. Good Old Games by wjousts · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'll cite the much debated Steam argument again. Once I buy a game, DRM (positive DRM) allows me to redownload whenever I want, and to play it on any computer whenever and wherever I want.

    I'll see your Steam and raise you a GOG.com. No DRM at all, ever, and you can redownload your games whenever you want. Sure their catalog is still small and contains older games (although some are only 2-3 years old), but I'm hoping they'll go from strength to strength and I'm supporting them with my dollars

    I'm still hoping to see LucasArts back catalog on there one day.

  13. Locks were meant to be broken by rwa2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But everyone honors the honor system. Well, at least honest people. But as long as you can catch and reprimand the few crooks out there, then you've got a pretty good system going.

    Frankly, I don't know why watermarking isn't in higher use. It could even add an element of personalization ("This album / movie expressly prepared for John Q. Smith") and help communities self-police themselves so we're not wasting government money on DRM enforcement / investigation etc. If the studios find out who's redistributing their work, it's a simple matter to report and disable their account.

  14. Re:It's 10 seconds to the wrong people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    More like 5 minutes. You've obviously not had the misfortune of trying using a disney DVD when you miss the "fast menu" button window, before it goes into a ridiculous number of adverts that you cannot bypass.

  15. Fair Use by gninnor · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "DRM and its ilk does persuade citizens to infringe copyright "

    Is this infringing on copyright? If what they want to do is covered by fair use, I don't see how it is. What is being done is violating DMCA by cracking DRM. They are separate issues, right?

  16. A Zero DRM Experiment Is Successful (So Far) by thepainguy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Here's a report from the real world of DRM.

    As I have mentioned before, I have written and am selling a book for entrepreneurs, salespeople, project champions, and others called Elevator Pitch Essentials (http://www.elevatorpitchessentials.com). After much debate, and with the encouragement of multiple /. folks, I decided to release an eBook version without any security. It's a plain old unsecured PDF. I had to create an eBook because many people overseas wanted to buy the book but it's a pain to sell through Amazon.co.uk. Since I don't have to pay for printing or shipping costs, I priced the eBook at $10, which is $5 off of the retail price

    Since I released the eBook, my hardcopy sales have continued to hold up. In fact, sales through Amazon.com have been doubling every month and I just got a volume order for 50 books. I have also sold 53 eBooks.

    I think this has been a successful experiment in part because of the relatively low price. It seems that people think that's a reasonable amount to charge. From my own experience, I know that I have absolutely no problem paying $1 for a song.

    P.S. Please don't crush my buzz by telling me it's all over the torrents (although that really may not matter).

    1. Re:A Zero DRM Experiment Is Successful (So Far) by thepainguy · · Score: 2, Informative

      People find it hard to read columns that are wider than 400 pixels. Below that limit, they can read one line per glance. Above that limit, scanning and eyestrain goes up and readability decreases. That's why most magazines use multi-column layouts.

  17. ...circumvent authors' protections? by macbeth66 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What authors have put DRM on their music? I have only found record labels. You know, those guys that get all the money and do none of the work and threaten artists who even try to take the work directly to the masses.

  18. treat me like a dog.... by xeno · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So much of life was captured eloquently by Smythe's Andy Capp cartoons -- most of which are too impolitic to run in today's newspapers. (Smoking, drinking, thumping and getting thumped by your wife... oh my.)

    In one of the classics, Andy sums up the entire public's reaction to DRM; After being berated by Flo for the transgression of having some unauthorized fun, he says to her: "Treat me like I'm a dog, and I'll treat you like I'm a dog." ...And proceeds to bite her waggling finger.

    Ain't that the damn truth.

    --
    I think not...(*poof*)
  19. i was watching pbs a few nights ago by circletimessquare · · Score: 3, Interesting

    i forget the guy's name, but he was a behavioral economist, and he was attempting to explain the recent economic meltdown in the terms of his profession, and why the whole notion of rational actors in a rational marketplace is a crock

    one of his precepts was that all of these derivatives, while having an economic value, were not actually money itself, and so this abstraction allowed a layer of rationalization of immoral behavior by otherwise normal people

    he crystallized this down to a simple experiment:

    he put 6 cans of coke in a refrigerator in an office kitchen, unlabeled and unguarded. of course, the cans of coke slowly disappeared. then he put 6 dollar bills on a plate in a refrigerator in an office kitchen, unlabeled and unguarded. guess what? no one took the money

    the whole point being: when value is made an abstraction, people can rationalize "theft" a lot easier than when the value of what you are taking is starkly presented. it explains a lot of the sticking points in the argument over "pirated" media

    --
    intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
    1. Re:i was watching pbs a few nights ago by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 3, Interesting

      interesting about the dollars and cans of coke.

      however, companies often provide soda for free for them employees. this complicates things as the employees could have thought those were from a company event (leftovers) etc. happens ALL the time where I work (bay area companies).

      another problem with this is that the 'value' of a song is VERY debatable! its complicated to add in all the costs involved and assign 'reasonable' profits to those in the chain. I'd say its actually impossible to do this correctly. so what we have is a system that is now gouging the consumer and attempting to float some idea of fair price on 'song listening'.

      for me, the right price is a few pennies per song. the industry sees that as 100x. we are not even on the same page, here.

      until then, I will continue to get my music any way I want. until the pennies-per-song comes back (I miss the russian sites!) I won't be buying the overpriced 'dollar per song' that the industry demands.

      once they become reasonable, I'll become reasonable. that's the lesson and that's all she wrote.

      --

      --
      "It is now safe to switch off your computer."
  20. Consider the source by DaveV1.0 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Reading her bio is enlightening. Seems to me she is anti-DRM and anti-IP. So, an anti-DRM, anti-IP law professor does a study and concludes that DRM is bad. Big surprise.

    By the way, "interviewing dozens of lecturers, end users, government officials, rightsholders, and DRM developers to find how DRM and anticircumvention laws affected actual use" is not necessarily empirical. I would bet that the methodology used was guaranteed to get the result she wanted.

    If this had been a study by the .*AA, there would have been dozens of posts calling it bullshit, but because it goes with the beliefs of so many unethical slashdotters, it's ok. I am never surprised by the depths of slashdot hypocrisy.

    --
    There is no "-1 offended" or "-1 you don't agree with me" mod options for a reason.
  21. List of DRM-free games by cliffski · · Score: 4, Informative

    You don't have to assume all PC games use DRM. ReclaimYourGame lists companies not using any form of securom etc. here is the link:

    http://reclaimyourgame.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=section&layout=blog&id=14&Itemid=62

    Disclaimer: I'm one of the companies on there.

    --
    DRM-free indie games for the PC and Mac: Positech Games
  22. To be fair it's a function of DRM and Price level. by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think a lot of people will buy something that is reasonably priced with or without DRM.
    I think a lot of people will pirate or not buy something that is unreasonably priced.

    The longer DRM exists, the lower that price gets however. Because once folks pirate something at $70 because of price + DRM, then they are more likely to pirate cheaper titles.

    Some of my titles without DRM from the 1990's still work. I don't know if my titles with DRM work- I lost the original media or it broke. The non-DRM software I was able to back up in multiple places so I have not lost it. Of course Total Annihilation (which still rocks) was DRM'd but a crack came out years ago that allowed me to back it up.

    --
    She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
  23. Re:It's 10 seconds to the wrong people by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 2, Funny

    And 10 seconds to the five year old who wants Spongebob Squarepants NOW!!!! IS a big deal.

    Great. It is preparation for their future - get used to taking a big bite out of the shit sandwich now son...

    --
    "But this one goes to 11!"
  24. Unethical? Hypocrisy? by symbolset · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Hypocrisy is stealing a hundred years worth of cultural content from every individual with a copyright extension, and then calling other people pirates because they take back a movie or an album.

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    Help stamp out iliturcy.
  25. DRM doesn't solve anything by DrYak · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Except that paying taxes, paying for goods, etc. are all required by law.
    Circumventing right-restriction is authorized by the law in some cases (="Fair Use"). But regularly you can't do it.

    Besides, DRM is useless and doesn't even fulfill the basic mission it was created for (stopping unauthorized duplication of content).

    Case 1:
      I'm about to go on vacation somewhere and I want to have a couple of movie on my portable driveless device (PDA, iPod, Netbook whatever), without needing to lug around a drive and a pile of discs. I need to shift formats (DVD/BD -> H264 or whatever the portable device takes) it's authorized by fair use in most juridiction. But I can't because DRM blocks it.

    Case 2:
      I'm a student making a presentation on a movie director. I want to copy a (reasonably) short segment of a movie to show as exemple to my audience. I can't, DRM blocks it.

    Case 3:
      I want to make a backup of a movie and keep the original in a safe place (that's actually a case I've been through : I have a mentally challenged brother who has a tendency to damage his favorite movies. It's important to him because otherwise he goes into an autistic crisis. Currently the originals are safely locked away, and copies loaded onto- and played from a server)
    DRM blocks it (or would have if I haven't resorted to DeCSS).

    Case 4 :
      I'm a Linux user (that my case also, actually). I want to play a movie I've legally bought on my custom-computer. DRM blocks it. ...and this list can go long...

    All are legitimate uses, which unlike the example of tax fraud or theft of goods should be protected by fair use by copyright laws in most jurisdictions. (Or sometimes are even normal uses like the "i just want to play it, but the system doesn't let me" cases. Fair use isn't required)

    But aren't technically feasible because manufacturer of DRM solution only take into account the big 80% of their market : basic average user which buys a media to pop it into a certified player.
    They just don't want to spend the additional resource to handle all the exotic corner cases in the remaining 20% even if those are exceptions covered by fair use.

    -----

    Meanwhile,
    Counter-case :
      I'm an EEEVVIIILL pirate (Yar!) and I want to get a movie for free, because I'm a free loader and don't want to pay for anything if I can get away with it.
      I just go to whatever is the most popular torrent portal-du.jour and just click on a link.

    That's it. Just. One. Click.

    At no time did any form of DRM get in my way to stop me from doing this.
    At no time would I be subjected to FBI warnings, advertising for up coming disc releases, etc...

    In my series of example :
    - DRM got in the way in lots of situation which are legal
    - the sole time when a copyright-forbiden act took place, DRM didn't make any difference at all.

    Copy protection worked in the previous decade because the only way to get an unauthorized copy was to copy the media yourself. If it's protected, only a couple of users where able to make copies and thus the propagation was limited.

    Today, with the magic of the modern internet, all it takes is one single user to publish a torrent (and at the scale of internet among all milions of user, there's always at least one user having the necessary knowhow/equipement/social engineering skill/whatever to do it) and then suddenly the media becomes easily available to anyone connected to the intertubes, without any protection stopping it.

    The Internet is good at making some content instantly available to the whole planet without restriction, and that's what make duplication-level protection obsolete.

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    "Sufficiently advanced satire is indistinguishable from reality." - [Tips: 1DrYakQDKCQ6y52z6QbnkxHXAocMZJE61o ]
  26. anoter empirical study ... by porky_pig_jr · · Score: 3, Informative

    done by yours truly showed that the absense of DRM encourages infringement as well.

    Sounds like a win-win situation, eh?

  27. Re:Surprised? by Gizzmonic · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Cheap processed foods almost completely devoid of value, mind-poisoning media, pharmaceuticals to mediate the symptoms of our sickness and addiction, lies, damned lies... someone tell me the great benefits left to us at this time in history by these maggots?

    Higher standard of living, greater freedom, and longer lifespan than any time in history? A peaceful and stable society? I could go on, but you're probably spray painting an "A" on the side of a strip mall somewhere, so I'll just go enjoy my life.

    --
    (-1, Raw and Uncut is the only way to read)
  28. Barrier to entry: Money. Here's why.... by helpacoder · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Barrier to entry: Getting to the store with money.

    People using the internet fall into 1 of 3 groups when faced with a 'paywall':

    1) The people who CAN pay but DON'T just so they can keep their money in their pocket for later use out of greed or necessity. To a lesser extent, in this group are those who are TOO BUSY to stop what they are doing long enough to pay for the items they want.

    2) The people who CAN'T pay but WANT to. They have just enough money for an internet connection or are borrowing the use of one, can't pay for anything and want the item anyway so they search for it online until they find it or give up and move on. The others in this group CAN pay but CAN'T due to the payment methods available to them for the items they want. Or they are simply blacklisted as a policy decision by the vendors of the items in question in resonse to fraud/theft commited against them.

    3) The people who CAN and DO pay for the items they want, realize they are crippled with some form of DRM, and seek out and download a DRM-free version or 'patch' to use anyway as it is 'better' to them.

    Excuses, excuses, excuses, eh?

    The easiest way to make all these problems and wasted resources go all away is to:

    1) Stop ALL use of DRM.

    2) Make EVERYTHING online that is NOT a 3-dimensional object either free or easy-to-pay 'tipware' -- basically meaning PayPal or actual 'money in the mail'.

    The only difference I see in 'poor starving artists' using the internet to make money and the successful ones with equal talent is the size of their advertising budget. It shouldn't be that way but sadly it is....

  29. Re:Unethical? Hypocrisy? by narcc · · Score: 2, Interesting

    [quote]So, anytime someone creates anything, it immediately becomes "cultural content" and they automatically lose their rights?[/quote]

    Yes. This is why we have copyright -- to [i]return[/i] some rights to the author.

    Keeping in mind that copyright is temporary, DRM is intended to circumvent the public's right to the work after the authors rights have expired, effectively creating an unlimited copyright term.

    Philosophically, DRM is a horrible horrible thing. The public has a responsibility to fight against it. After all, it's [i]their[/i] rights that are being violated.

    Off topic, but still interesting: Excessively long copyright terms can also serve to take away the public's rights. As the Google Books case has shown us, authors and publishers don't necessarily have an interest in the preservation of works -- once a work ceases to be profitable, it can be allowed to disappear into time. They're under no obligation to keep the work available until the end of the copyright term. As rights typically come [i]with[/i] obligation, such a revision to copyright law should be considered. It would better serve the public interest.