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Microsoft Bing Search Launches Early Preview

An anonymous reader writes to mention that Microsoft has rolled out a preview version of their Bing Search site earlier than expected. Microsoft's hope at putting a dent in Google's ubiquitous search presence, Bing has several new features including Bing Cashback, Bing Video, and Bing xRank. "Bing Video is really great because of the new thumbnail video feature. Try searching for E3 at Bing Video and you'll quickly see how it works. Simply hover over a video and it starts playing instantly. This is fantastic from the consumer's point of view but what about the publisher? It's almost like Microsoft is stepping on their toes by deploying video search in this manner. Would a user still click on to the site if they can watch the whole video from within the search results? Fair use definitely comes into mind here. Perhaps there should be a 30second limitation on the 'thumbnail preview?'"

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  1. Weird... by FredFredrickson · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What's interesting, for me, about other search engines and their "usability" is the fact that my eyes are trained to parse google results. Google search results look official and informative. I can't use Yahoo or MSN (or Bing for this matter) because their search results look sterile.

    Sometimes it's the lack of information- as little as giving me the page size (7kb). Sometimes it's the margins. Bing has a left margin. Google doesn't.

    I'm not saying that these differences make a BAD difference, except this: Internet users learn quickly about scams. The first time I accidentally clicked on those fake search results on an ad-search mis-direction page, I learned to pick up on these differences quickly.

    In fact, it's subtle, but you can usually tell when a computer has an infection that hijacks your google results- because they don't look right (older infections changed the results, new ones redirect REAL results.. but that's a different conversation).

    The point is- my mouse won't go near, let alone click, on things that I think are tricks or advertisements. For some reason, I trust google a lot. So much that my eyes are trained to see it's results and disregard others. I'm reluctant to click on bing results.

    I encourage slashdot users to try bing out, and tell me it doesn't look foreign to you! Tell me you don't feel weird clicking it's results! The internet trains you quickly that you are to embrace familiarity, because you will be quickly punished for not doing so.

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    1. Re:Weird... by mccalli · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I encourage slashdot users to try bing out, and tell me it doesn't look foreign to you! Tell me you don't feel weird clicking it's results! The internet trains you quickly that you are to embrace familiarity, because you will be quickly punished for not doing so.

      I understand what you're saying, but I have a different perspective. Yes, the results page looks different to me but in fact that has meant I've paid more attention to it. I've been trying this out every so often and it's looking promising. Wish they'd get rid of the picture from the front page, but other than that I think I'm going to stick with this for a while. Its "Pages from the UK only" thing (insert your country here...) seems much more accurate than google.co.uk's, for instance. I might be imagining it, but it seems that way to me so far.

      My current homepage is google.co.uk. I'm going to set bing.com as my homepage for a week to see how I get on with it - so far it's found things that Google didn't and missed a whole load of Google-oriented spam sites, so looking promising at first glance. I'll see how it truly is after a longer term test.

      Cheers,
      Ian

    2. Re:Weird... by eldavojohn · · Score: 3, Insightful

      so far it's found things that Google didn't and missed a whole load of Google-oriented spam sites

      Until the spammers note that Bing's marketshare is big enough to set their sights on. It's the whole exploits are concentrated on the most popular software out there paradigm again.

      I do like some aspects (video included) of this though. I find the shopping to be about as good as Google's, nothing special. Could definitely do without the noisy background, though. I crave simplicity!

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    3. Re:Weird... by Jake+Griffin · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Some of the things I use quite a bit on google search are the calculator feature, as well as just asking a basic trivia question that comes up while I'm browsing. Both such examples fail on bing. "1+1=?" returned a bunch of nonsense, which is expected because bing doesn't have a calculator, but "How tall is Steve Nash?" returned his stats in the first result with a picture, which is nice, but it is not his height. You have to look to the third result to see how tall he is. Google on the other hand returns this as the first result: Steve Nash â" Height: 6 FT 3 in. Very simple, quick answer. This is the reason I will stick with Google for the time being.

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    4. Re:Weird... by X0563511 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Slashdot: Bringing the AJAX of the "future" with the encodings of the early 90's.

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    5. Re:Weird... by BrokenHalo · · Score: 3, Funny

      It recognizes 1+1.

      Yes, and it comes up with the wrong answer. Everybody knows that 1 + 1 = 10.

  2. And Slashdot couldn't even link to it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I guess I'll just have to Google it.

    1. Re:And Slashdot couldn't even link to it? by Yvan256 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Nope, this is a Microsoft product. You have to fucking Google it.

    2. Re:And Slashdot couldn't even link to it? by neoform · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I wonder how Bing stands up against Google..

      http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3604/3585051300_d23a37a32e_o.png

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    3. Re:And Slashdot couldn't even link to it? by Iphtashu+Fitz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's one reason why I never liked MSN Live and other MS search products. They're obviously very biased towards Microsoft products. Google, if anything, is biased towards open source & their other offerings like gmail, etc. but their search results aren't so blatantly biased that way. I purposely don't want to use a search engine run by a corporation with a wide range of products and services like MS because it's so easy for them to game the results to suit their needs. That's why I stick with Google for most of my searching and venture out to others like ask.com, yahoo.com, etc. when I want to try something different. Unless MS can demonstrate that their searches aren't biased towards their products & services then I'll continue to avoid using them.

    4. Re:And Slashdot couldn't even link to it? by mugnyte · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This bias, built from MS's search seeing the world as highly MS-leaning from simply their own adherents using their products more, is somewhat self-defeating.

        For popularity-driven ranks, the wider the audience and usage, the better the full audience will be able to make use of the statistics it employs. If MS's employees, contractors, proponents, vendors, etc are the primary users for the tool before a general web world, the stats will be be slanted towards MS's offerings, as you allude.

        I would expect for a release as important as this to the MS portfolio, I would expect them to reset the statistics after the initial rollout, or even sub-sample the IP's, selecting for diversity, for the stats to fight bias. Without this, I can only wait until another set of "MS is just pushing more MS" posts across the blogosphere.

        Then again, perhaps a healthy dose of bing-bombing (aka google-bombing) the site will re-skew it to those who fight such battles.

  3. I'll be the first never to say... by MoonFacedAssassin · · Score: 4, Funny

    just go Bing it!

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  4. Meh by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's google with a background image, a flashy video preview and a not quite right page layout.

  5. To disable tracking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Add www.bing.com/fd/ls/* to your filters.

  6. bing is for porn by Trivial_Zeros · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/scienceandtechnology/technology/5423736/Microsofts-Bing-under-fire-for-porn-video-access.html This might be how Bing will become popular - using Bing video to bypass porn filters!

  7. Yeah but.... by Utopia+Tree · · Score: 5, Funny

    www.BingIsNotGoogle.com

  8. Google and Bing side by side.. by Wescotte · · Score: 5, Informative
  9. First impressions by Yvan256 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Ok, seriously... what's with that 80 KiB background JPEG on the homepage?

    Image search is actually nice, though I would put the filters at the top instead of the left. The results leave a bit to be desired (tried "portable mame cabinet", hoping to find something I looked at a few days ago - no luck there). Also, scrolling down loads more pictures automatically. No need to go to "page 2" for more results. That's actually nice. The size/weight info on hover is a nice touch too.

  10. its all about the data by jsnipy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    no interface means anything without the index and data to back it.

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  11. You want to know something funny? by E.+Edward+Grey · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I realized just now that if some other company had started up and created a new search engine called "Bing" I would probably find it really charming. But when Microsoft does it, it just seems like The Itchy & Scratchy & Poochie Show. The human subconscious is a player-hater.

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  12. Guess what microsoft did by Conspiracy_Of_Doves · · Score: 5, Informative

    Apparently, Microsoft has acquired the domain bingsucks.com.

  13. Did anonymous even try the video search? by Jabrwock · · Score: 4, Informative

    When I moused over video results, it seemed to do "skip play", fading out and in between jumps, as it "sampled" the video in 7 second clips. After 3 clips (from throughout a 20 minute video), it looped. Very nice for getting a feel for the video contents and quality.

    So I don't understand the beef about "Would a user still click on to the site if they can watch the whole video from within the search results?" because the user clearly can't watch the whole video from the search results.

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  14. Search for "Linux" results in Microsoft products? by stefanlasiewski · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I noticed that also.

    Here are the first four "Search suggestions" for when I type "linux":

    linux
    linux windows
    linux microsoft
    linux vista

    Is this because Microsoft inserted itself into those search suggestions? Or is it because the majority of Bingers are using Microsoft products and thus the results are skewed ?

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  15. Re:Life, The Universe, And Everything by Jake+Griffin · · Score: 3, Funny

    There is one thing Google can't search for though: Chuck Norris

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  16. With apologies to Dennis Miller... by sootman · · Score: 3, Funny

    To learn more about Bing, type "bing search engine" into Google.

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  17. Looks like a parking site or a DNS redirect. by msimm · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If I'd hit your link on accident I'd have assumed it was just another domineer squatting a high value (?) name. Who ever designed the page layout probably doesn't know the first thing about composition, my eyes can't seem to decide where to focus because all the blocks seem to be competing. Like an uglier version of google with over 1/3 of the top of the page (all you see before scrolling) dedicated to advertisements with not one, but TWO search boxes (the second simply to search within microsoft.com) which will probably frustrate and confuse as many users as it might help.

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  18. Not to worry by msimm · · Score: 4, Funny

    Nobody has registered bingsucksballs.com yet.

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  19. Who needs Bing? Google works. by yog · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Bing's OK. But it's nothing special. Even if it's technically superior in certain ways to Google--I can't tell so I'll leave that for the intellectuals to tease out--there's no particular reason to switch.

    I have NEVER had a problem finding stuff on Google. Usually what I'm looking for appears in the first 10 hits. About 10% of the time, I need to rephrase my search, or add some "-" keywords to weed out some signal noise. But Google does the job, I'm used to it, and it seems to just keep getting better.

    There is so much power hidden inside Google's engine--stock quotes, mathematical calculations, language translation, mapping, document conversion, caches of deleted pages, paid links that I actually find useful, typo correction--the list goes on and on and on!

    What can Microsoft's search engine add to this stunningly rich resource that millions of us can't live without? What killer features does Microsoft give us? Some little tweaks here and there in the UI that may or may not make much difference. Some good ideas on supplemental information such as the "related searches" column on the left.

    Sorry, Microsoft, but Bing looks like MSN Search that's been tweaked a little. If Google didn't exist, you might have a winner on your hands, but this is just another "me, too" search system that will survive only as a niche product, funded by profits from the MS Office and Windows divisions.

    Any market penetration by Bing will probably come from super-glueing it to the Windows 7 desktop and Windows mobile handhelds, defaulting it on IE searching, and otherwise forcing it down customers' throats in whatever way they can, hoping a large enough population will be ignorant enough to just use the defaults. But now that "google" is a verb in the dictionary, Microsoft has its work cut out for it to hold and expand its little piece of the search market.

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  20. The Sound of Annoyance by deanston · · Score: 5, Funny

    Typical MSFT logic again. The official blog describes 'Bing' as "the sound of found". Problem is - I haven't started looking for anything yet, WHY IS THERE A SOUND? Furthermore, even MSFT admit that to compete with Google you need a name that can become a verb - so WHY DID THEY DESCRIBE 'BING' AS OFFICIALLY A SOUND (which is a noun)?? And then the name keeping chiming in your head - Bing! Bing! Bing! Bing! - like a bad commercial jingle that is stuck there and makes you hate it, despise it, and swear never to touch it - no matter how good it actually is. I'm guessing that would be roughly 50% of the population that MSFT still will not convince.

  21. HIJACKED! by Wisconsingod · · Score: 4, Informative

    Anyone else notice this ?
    some users of IE6, including yours truely, have had their systems "Hijacked" by Bing. No matter what registry settings are switched, Bing has become the default search engine. We cannot "Customise" the search settings. I wonder how many others have this problem or if anyone has a solution.
    Hopefully Slashdot will pick up on my story below (help me out, and comment on it)
    http://slashdot.org/submission/1011681/Microsoft-Forcing-Bing-on-Users

    1. Re:HIJACKED! by Slothrup · · Score: 4, Informative

      Sounds like a feature to get you to stop using IE6 already, goddamn it!

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  22. Re:In a word, it sucks by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 4, Informative

    Big surprise, the video refuses to load unless you have Windows Media Player.

    Wrong. They're using Flash, like everybody doing video on the web.

    Despite the fact that I view wmv's all over the net just fine with mplayer, yet somehow MS can't seem to make this work.

    It's your computer at fault, not Microsoft.

    MS needs to get a clue and realize that they can't expect to gain market share in new areas if they lame out all of their products to try and reinforce their OS monopoly.

    They're using Flash, you gigantic ass. It doesn't even query for the Silverlight plug-in-- Bing is *all Flash*.

    Do they honestly expect to pull market share from youtube while telling users to go away until they install windows?

    No they don't. Which is why their video previews has the same requirement YouTube has: Flash installed.

    How did your retarded posting get modded up? Christ.