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Microsoft's Bing Refuses Search Term "Sex" In India

An anonymous reader writes "Apparently Microsoft is censoring search results for Bing in India and other countries. If you try to search for the term 'sex,' along with lots of variations, from India using Microsoft's new search engine, an error message is returned that says, 'the search sex may return sexually explicit content. To get results, change your search terms.' There's no preference setting or toggle-on-or-off choice; you simply cannot search for the term 'sex' in India if you are using Bing. While a user still can change their country and try the non-Indian version of Bing, this seems like an unnecessary step and unnecessary censorship on the part of Microsoft. Apparently Google has no problem with Indians searching for the term 'sex.'"

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  1. No matter what the search engine says, by palegray.net · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... there is no sex in India's champagne room.

    1. Re:No matter what the search engine says, by ydrol · · Score: 5, Funny

      To Paraphrase Russell Peters,

      "India is the second largest population in the world. Somebody's fucking..."

    2. Re:No matter what the search engine says, by interkin3tic · · Score: 3, Funny

      No! If people from India can't search for sex, they might not know how to do it! Think of what that would do to their population!

    3. Re:No matter what the search engine says, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lookin' for love in all the wrong places.

    4. Re:No matter what the search engine says, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No Bing Bang!

    5. Re:No matter what the search engine says, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is not just India they have restored this to , includes almost whole of Asia , and so called countries that honour traditional values

    6. Re:No matter what the search engine says, by Lennie · · Score: 1

      Actually, you could say they practically wrote the book about: Kama Sutra

      Yes, yes, it's probably all about affection.

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    7. Re:No matter what the search engine says, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      ... there is no sex in India's champagne room.

      Or maybe the government, seeing a population of 1.17 billion (July, '09 estimate) just figured that people in India knew quite all they needed to know about sex.

      Hmmm, captcha = strategy

    8. Re:No matter what the search engine says, by stoned_hamster · · Score: 1

      then they wont have the second largest population

      but really, there are all of those old people to teach them.....

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  2. and then... by SinShiva · · Score: 4, Funny

    there was pron.

  3. But... by Eggplant62 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Big Brother knows what's best for us. Now, sit down, shut up, and consume consume consume, work work work, buy buy buy.

    1. Re:But... by MrMista_B · · Score: 1

      You should move to the US, I hear they don't have that problem. :)

    2. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Big Brother knows what's best for us.

      Don't you mean "bing" brother?

    3. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is sooo scary!

    4. Re:But... by mqduck · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Technically, I don't think Big Brother cares if you do the consume part, as long as you still don't slow down on the buy part.

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    5. Re:But... by Blankw · · Score: 1

      ...Is that you Mr Prime Minister?

  4. Do a search for 'young sex' or 'teen sex' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In the USA, they are censoring your searches too.

    1. Re:Do a search for 'young sex' or 'teen sex' by palegray.net · · Score: 1

      You can turn off Google's SafeSearch feature, you know...

    2. Re:Do a search for 'young sex' or 'teen sex' by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      Strange that they didn't just set SafeSearch to strict by default, then let people disable it. I confirmed that doing this filters "sex" from search results.

    3. Re:Do a search for 'young sex' or 'teen sex' by stopping · · Score: 2, Insightful

      When in certain countries, you can't turn off the SS feature.

  5. Hm. by buttfscking · · Score: 0

    Now what are all their tech support guys gonna do all day?

    1. Re:Hm. by xSauronx · · Score: 1

      wtf, who doesnt??

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    2. Re:Hm. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you kidding me? There's FAR better porn search engines out there, and not just that, who wants google to keep a track of whether you're into BDSM or fruits?

  6. 'sex may return sexually explicit content' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No shit, Sherlock.

    1. Re:'sex may return sexually explicit content' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      No shit, Sherlock.

      Keep digging Watson.

    2. Re:'sex may return sexually explicit content' by Concerned+Onlooker · · Score: 1

      I'm guessing that even Sherlock wouldn't have blocked that request.

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  7. Duh. by orngjce223 · · Score: 2

    A search for "sex" would return sexually explicit content? Duh. If you wanted to search for something that wasn't explicit, you wouldn't plug in the term "sex", would you?

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    1. Re:Duh. by slarrg · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Sure, it's impossible that someone might be trying to read laws about sex discrimination or how to determine the sex of a snake or something.

    2. Re:Duh. by Thinboy00 · · Score: 1

      If you type "sex" into a search engine with no qualifiers or anything, you are begging for sexually explicit content. If someone wanted to read about sex discrimination "or how to determine the sex of a snake or something", they would have searched for that.

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    3. Re:Duh. by Hecatonchires · · Score: 2, Funny

      There is no discrimination of any kind, or snakes, in india! Therefore your argument is flawed. Tea?

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    4. Re:Duh. by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 1

      In both those cases 'gender' would suffice.

    5. Re:Duh. by palegray.net · · Score: 1

      That's an awful line of reasoning. What's wrong with actually specifying what you're searching for? If I do a search for "sexual discrimination" I get results related to that query, not a page full of XXX links. If I want information on apple pie, would it make sense to search for "apple" alone?

    6. Re:Duh. by DMalic · · Score: 4, Informative

      sex discrimination and sex crimes are blocked (just tested).

    7. Re:Duh. by IRWolfie- · · Score: 1

      This is deliberate discrimination against sextons everywhere!

    8. Re:Duh. by slarrg · · Score: 1

      There's nothing wrong with more discrete searches but I've found that the vast majority of users are not nearly as good at defining a discrete search as I am. The point is, if you search for "sex discrimination" with a location of India you get blocked because the term "sex" is blocked and the GGP stated that if a user used the term "sex" in their search they were only seeking sexually explicit results.

    9. Re:Duh. by Darkness404 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well, some people don't, some people search for a general term. For example I knew someone who was searching for Dick's Sporting Goods which is a major sporting goods retailer... He made the mistake of just typing in "Dicks" in Google. There are a few less obvious ones, "coke" can refer to both a drug (cocaine) or a beverage (coca-cola) and so even typing in "how to make coke" might contain information on refining the coca leaf or how to emulate the flavor of coca-cola. Sure, when you type in "sex" you are practically begging for porn, but similarly if you search for "pots" (most search engines ignore plurals so it comes out as just "pot") how do you know what they are searching for? Either cookware or drugs. If they tried to remove all references to drugs too they would run into problems like that. While "sex" is rather obvious, others are not.

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    10. Re:Duh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can search for 'Sexual Discrimination' on the India bing side.

    11. Re:Duh. by Ash.D.Giles · · Score: 1

      Does it have to be said that it is quite reasonable to search for sex for a number of reasons apart from pornography? How about sexual health? For a young teen or something, searching for "sex" online because you're curious could lead you to some great articles that would tell you some pretty useful information. Like wearing a condom can help prevent you getting some nasty diseases. I'm pretty sure the idea of SafeSearch is to keep those search results whilst filtering the porn sites. Blocking all searches of the term completely seems like lazy design.

    12. Re:Duh. by nacturation · · Score: 2, Informative

      "sexual discrimination" does work though... just not "sex discrimination".

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    13. Re:Duh. by mariushm · · Score: 1

      or maybe I just want to get the definition of the word, kind of like this page shows : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex

      Or maybe I just want information about a show, or a studio or lots of other things, like this page shows: http://www.google.ro/search?q=define%3Asex

    14. Re:Duh. by DMalic · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I noticed that. The really obvious ones (breast cancer, some others I tried) get through fine. It's still ridiculous to me, though.

    15. Re:Duh. by P0ltergeist333 · · Score: 1

      What if you are German, or want to find German sites containing information on the number six (sex)?

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    16. Re:Duh. by dcollins117 · · Score: 1

      A search for "sex" would return sexually explicit content? Duh.

      Well I should certainly hope so. Otherwise it's not much of a search engine is it. What's really interesting is how Microsoft expects to compete with Google with shenanigans like this. Why would anyone choose a search engine that does not, by design, return results for the topic you search for?

    17. Re:Duh. by darthflo · · Score: 1

      That'd be "Sechs". It's just pronounced like "Sex".

    18. Re:Duh. by mister_playboy · · Score: 1

      It's sechs... of "Gruppe Sechs" GTAIII securicar fame.

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    19. Re:Duh. by blues_shuffle · · Score: 2, Informative
      Gender and sex are not synonymous when discussing discrimination. There is a sharp distinction between sexual discrimination and gender discrimination. As an example, sexual discrimination would be something like "you must have a penis to be in management," whereas gender discrimination is when a male that identifies (and thus dresses) as a woman gets harassed when entering a public restroom.

      And I don't know if snakes really have gender.

    20. Re:Duh. by guyminuslife · · Score: 1

      No, I'm unfamiliar with the concept, and would like to find out what it's all about. I was looking for the Wikipedia page.

      I have recently become interested in producing flying robots, and since I'm aware that sex has to do with birds and bees, I assume that it has to do with aerodynamics. This would be most useful for my robots.

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    21. Re:Duh. by zunger · · Score: 1

      There's something which can be done about the example you give. "Pots" is fairly unambiguous; just because you're taking both plural and singular occurences of a word into account doesn't mean you should ignore which the user typed! (To give some simple examples; people who search for "apples" are interested in fruit, but people who search for "apple" are interested in computers. And plurals and synonymy do not commute; "red hats" is not the plural of "red hat.") "How to make coke" is an interesting ambiguous query, with two meaningful interpretations -- take a look at the Google results for that to see one good way of handling it. (Sectioning the results page and giving different interpretations)

      And at least when I just checked, Dick's Sporting Goods is actually the top result for [dick's] on google.com.

      I would say that Bing's results for both [dick's] and [how to make coke] are substantially less compelling. (Too many somewhat irrelevant interpretations in the first case, not enough relevant interpretations in the second)

    22. Re:Duh. by wisty · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Hot blondes" is blocked. "Hot dirty blondes" is OK.

      Go figure.

      Also, "Two girls one cup", "goatsie", and "tubgirl" pass. I guess they still have some work to do.

    23. Re:Duh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      No, it isn't.

      sechs, IPA: [zeks]
      Sex, IPA: [seks]

      Obviously, the difference lies in the voiced and voiceless alveolar fricatives, if you know what I'm talking about. Because I, in spite of being German for quite a while now, don't.

    24. Re:Duh. by P0ltergeist333 · · Score: 1

      You are correct. I feel pretty stupid. German was even spoken by my grandparents... I guess I shouldn't have tried spelling in it without checking.

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    25. Re:Duh. by sonicmerlin · · Score: 1, Funny

      Indian teens don't sleep together. Indians wait until marriage.

    26. Re:Duh. by arth1 · · Score: 1

      Duh. If you wanted to search for something that wasn't explicit, you wouldn't plug in the term "sex", would you?

      I can think of quite a few sex queries that aren't explicit:
      "How to sex finches"
      "sex organs in fungi"
      "sex based discrimination"
      "1950s sex symbols"
      "Miranda Sex Garden"
      "Iam sex et totidem luces"

    27. Re:Duh. by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      What if you are German, or want to find German sites containing information on the number six (sex)?

      s/German/Swedish/g

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    28. Re:Duh. by ultranova · · Score: 3, Funny

      Also, "Two girls one cup", "goatsie", and "tubgirl" pass. I guess they still have some work to do.

      What kind of pervert would consider these sexual in nature, thought? Wisty, you sicko!

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    29. Re:Duh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indian teens don't sleep together.

      No, they have sex together and then go to separate beds to sleep. I think that's how most teens go about it due to logistical issues.

    30. Re:Duh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indian teens don't sleep together.

      No, they have sex together and then go to separate beds to sleep. I think that's how most teens go about it due to logistical issues.

    31. Re:Duh. by GenieGenieGenie · · Score: 1

      You cannot say that online! Disgusting! I just spat chocolate ice cream all over the keyboard!!

    32. Re:Duh. by Frederico+Camara · · Score: 1

      In Portuguese, "sexta-feira" ("Friday") is shortened as "sex", same way as Friday is abreviated "Fri". If you try to ban "sex" searches in Brazil or Portugal, you ban pages written on Friday, or about things happening Friday.

      Microsoft made this stupid mistake in MS Word where weekdays are capitalized by default. Problem is weekdays are not capitalized in portuguese. Also, "terça-feira" ("Tuesday"), is shortened as "ter". But "ter" in portuguese is a verb, and a very common one, it translates as "to have". So how stupid is it to not only have weekdays capitalized as default when it is not, but also the verb "to have"?

      You must not just assume sex means sex just because in english it does. In foreign countries it just *isn't* obvious.

    33. Re:Duh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indians don't sleep. Indians wait until marriage.

      Fixed that for you.

  8. So search for sex,the natural way by Gi0 · · Score: 1

    Î'm i the only one who's searching for pron starts with the actual names of the pron stars?:)

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    1. Re:So search for sex,the natural way by not_surt · · Score: 2, Funny

      Huh? They have names?

    2. Re:So search for sex,the natural way by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Waitasec... porn stars have names?

      While we're at it... porn stars have faces?

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    3. Re:So search for sex,the natural way by Nicolas+MONNET · · Score: 2, Funny

      Name of their first pet and name of the street where they live.

      I'm Brownie de Lappe.

    4. Re:So search for sex,the natural way by Stormwatch · · Score: 3, Funny

      Huh? They have names?

      They must be related, usually their last name is "jpg".

    5. Re:So search for sex,the natural way by zamboni1138 · · Score: 1

      Speedo Jefferson, makes Jefferson D'Arcy look like a chump.

    6. Re:So search for sex,the natural way by SIR_Taco · · Score: 1

      That was funny until I figured mine out....

      Chewie Carmel

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    7. Re:So search for sex,the natural way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Name of their first pet and name of the street where they live.

      Hmmmm.... Jingles 121st.

      Doesn't really have a good ring to it.

    8. Re:So search for sex,the natural way by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Hmmmm.... Jingles 121st.

      Doesn't really have a good ring to it.

      Are you sure about that?

    9. Re:So search for sex,the natural way by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 1

      There are a few other major families. Also prominent is the png clan, and to a lesser extent bmp.

    10. Re:So search for sex,the natural way by Ken+V.B.+Liar · · Score: 1

      Pfft, that's nothing. Mine is Little Patches Country Road X28.

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    11. Re:So search for sex,the natural way by that+IT+girl · · Score: 1

      I'm Marshmallow Darby. That's cute, but not sexy.

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    12. Re:So search for sex,the natural way by rbrausse · · Score: 1

      anyone remember the order of the gif? long time ago a big and important porn tribe but now nearly vanished...

    13. Re:So search for sex,the natural way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Huh? They have names?

      They must be related, usually their last name is "jpg".

      Back in high school, jpg stands for "japanese girl"

  9. My office mate from India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    used to say that gay people were not "a problem" in India, since no one there was really gay. But it was OK for men to hold hands in public.

    1. Re:My office mate from India by Nick+Ives · · Score: 1

      But it was OK for men to hold hands in public.

      That could just mean MDMA is OK in India :)

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    2. Re:My office mate from India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I am from India. It is such a ridiculous statement that no one is gay in India. (I am going ignore his implication that being gay is a "problem")

      Just curious, why is it so bad in the US for two men to hold hands in public ?

    3. Re:My office mate from India by palegray.net · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's not "bad" per se, it's just a cultural taboo as in the US such behavior implies homosexuality, which still carries a serious stigma.

    4. Re:My office mate from India by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 4, Funny

      Because lots of men don't wash their hands, and it grosses people out that they've doubled the chances of spreading swine flu.

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    5. Re:My office mate from India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Just curious, why is it so bad in the US for two men to hold hands in public ?

      Ummmm, because it's gay?

    6. Re:My office mate from India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is it really common for men to hold hands with each other in India or is the root poster making this up? It's not common in the US. If it is done it is usually in gay friendly places, and then the implication is that the men are gay.

    7. Re:My office mate from India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      You think all the women wash their hands ? Be thankful the men's room is not littered with used tampons!
      Something to think about when you hold your girls hand next time. You are welcome for the image.

    8. Re:My office mate from India by Hikaru79 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It is done in India and it has no gay connotations whatsoever. In fact I think you'd offend and confuse anyone by suggesting it is related to homosexuality. Walking down the street holding hands with your male relative or friend is just done, the same way shaking hands (for instance) isn't gay here.

    9. Re:My office mate from India by sharanx182 · · Score: 3, Informative

      it's not really that common, frankly....it's not 'common' at all...if you had to ask me, but you'd rather believe a wandering comedian than me wouldn't you? think about it. im indian btw. in 'red, white and brown' Mr. Peters made some pretty strange 'accusations' about india, which, not exactly 'offended', but intrigued/confused a lot of us, while watching it me and my friends were like "huh?" "whats he saying?" and "what a load of bullcrap! (jovially)" :-P so i guess the point im trying to make is, he is not, the best source of 'information' about a country :)

    10. Re:My office mate from India by thedak · · Score: 1

      At least the way I see it, it's not a case of "taboo" and more just a general lack of desire; to me it's a sign of affection, albeit a less personal one. Just like I wouldn't hold hands with a woman I'm not in some kind of serious relationship with, or at least have a great deal of affection for I wouldn't hold hands with a male friend. Maybe there is some of the "it makes you homosexual" to hold a man's hand in there somewhere, but I think the way I was brought up and the way most people I know were brought up it's more that it's reserved as a sign of affection. (Canadian, maybe us Canadians are just weird, I don't know)

    11. Re:My office mate from India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      same for guys kissing each other in argentina. but it's ok, argentinians say.

    12. Re:My office mate from India by Hurricane78 · · Score: 4, Funny

      My approach to things like this changed. I just don't care for shit like that. When it's hot, I like to run around barefoot. Even when shopping, etc.
      And I make it look good. Fitting clothing style. Clean. And self-confident.
      Now I get more girls talking to me *because* of it.

      I think the trick is, to have a stronger reality. Of what is right and cool.
      If you manage to drag others in your reality, you can do what you like.

      So partially, it's people themselves, running around in fear, acting kinda ashamed, that makes other people think it's normal to treat them like this.
      Same thing with learned wrong assumptions about yourself. Like people thinking they are stupid, therefore giving up earlier, and not even trying to achieve some goals.

      I found it very healthy, to re-check all your most basic assumptions at most every 10 years. You will be surprised which one have absolutely no scientific base, but were very very deeply connected to every thought of yours.

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    13. Re:My office mate from India by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

      Well. Holding hands is very close to kissing. Our lips and our fingers/hands (and feet too) are the two (three) most sensitive areas of our skin. So of course you only touch people that very intimate way, that you kiss or have sex with too.

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    14. Re:My office mate from India by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 2, Funny

      Some days, I only make it through by imagining that some women don't wash their hands.

      Giggity.

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    15. Re:My office mate from India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Our lips and our fingers/hands (and feet too)...

      Boy, that takes me back. Used to be, back in my day, you'd hold a lovers feet while walking down the street. This posed the occasional complication. If they were still attached to her, do you do her the courtesy of chloroforming her before dragging her around, or do you simply use a club? What if they were severed? Do you have the feet bronzed or take them to a taxidermist?

      Now you have all this hogwash about "lips" and "hands". Simpler days in my time, son, simpler days indeed.

    16. Re:My office mate from India by general_re · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I found it very healthy, to re-check all your most basic assumptions at most every 10 years. You will be surprised which one have absolutely no scientific base, but were very very deeply connected to every thought of yours.

      Absolutely. Don't assume that a hot stove will burn you - you should go right ahead and stick your hand on there every ten years or so, just in case.

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    17. Re:My office mate from India by TheVelvetFlamebait · · Score: 1

      You'd be surprised how little scientific basis matters in day-to-day life.

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    18. Re:My office mate from India by timmarhy · · Score: 2, Funny
      except your not clean. your feet will be black and disgusting from running around bare foot. girls don't talk to you, they take pity on your homeless looking ass.

      and what do you do when you step on an AIDS infected needle? dumbass.

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    19. Re:My office mate from India by Feanturi · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Bullshit. If that were true, you'd be arrested for holding a kid's hand because of the implied sexual connection. Even worse if it was your OWN kid, that would be even worse, right?

    20. Re:My office mate from India by oneiron · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yea, especially if you haven't been paying attention to stove technology... In ten years, stoves may be able to return to room temperature in an instant when exposed to living tissue. I'd hate to miss out on cool tech like that just because of assumptions based on old info.

    21. Re:My office mate from India by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 2, Informative

      Sure. I'm in cell A18. Ask for 'Bubba'.

    22. Re:My office mate from India by Ian+Alexander · · Score: 1

      Holding hands is regarded as something lovers do here.

      The only way I'd regard it as bad for men to do it would be if they did it in the wrong place or around the wrong people and they got the crap beaten out of them, or worse, killed. There are people with very definite views on the evils of homosexuality here.

    23. Re:My office mate from India by parlancex · · Score: 3, Interesting

      10 years ago you probably wouldn't have an induction based stovetop, so if you did now then yes, the assumption that it would burn you would be false.

    24. Re:My office mate from India by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 2, Insightful

      In ten years, stoves may be able to return to room temperature in an instant when exposed to living tissue.

      I remember, years ago, when I had a cheap watch from Tijuana that claimed to be "water proof". I was about to wear it into the ocean when my cousin asked me "Are you sure it is water proof? What do you gain by testing it when you don't have to?"... In a similar vein, I don't think anyone will go wrong in assuming an operating stove is hot.

      Also along those lines, I saw a thing on a some cable channel show, where a saw blade would instantly stop when you put your finger into it. Again, I ask, why would you test that?

      I have air bags in my car, I hope not to test them. I am not missing out on the technology of air bags, nor am I sticking my fingers into a "safe" saw blade.

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    25. Re:My office mate from India by Petrushka · · Score: 1

      Just curious, why is it so bad in the US for two men to hold hands in public ?

      Supposedly it's because of the Oscar Wilde trial.

      My only reason for thinking that is the quiz show "QI"; I can't provide actual evidence. Reportedly, it used to be just as OK in anglophone countries for men to hold hands as it still is in many non-anglophone countries. Then Oscar Wilde got convicted, and suddenly everyone started avoiding it. Given the UK's absolute cultural preeminence in the anglophone world at the time, I find it easy to imagine that this taboo spread like wildfire.

      Remember this is only hearsay. Here's a transcript of the relevant QI episode (scroll down to the mention of the "LabouchÃre Amendment").

    26. Re:My office mate from India by ethana2 · · Score: 2, Informative

      You got it. Induction stoves. About time, eh?

    27. Re:My office mate from India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, that would be amazing, if they had stoves that were cool to the touch. Oh, wait, they do. They are called inductive ranges.

    28. Re:My office mate from India by Epistax · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Sure, why not? If your whole perception of the universe has changed since then, that's exactly the kind of thing that'll let you know. The parent never suggested that you would have to, in this case, touch the hand on the burner until it left serious damage, but just enough to know that the old rules still apply.

      You're on what might be your only trip through this universe. Don't waste it. ANYTHING might change. Just don't count on it.

    29. Re:My office mate from India by matria · · Score: 1

      The reason why it's not allowable to go barefoot in most places in the US is for legal reasons. Go barefoot, cut your foot on something, sue.

      Also in many parts of the world there are nasty parasites in the dirt. Not to mention that in many cultures spitting is still common by men and women both, and sidewalks or paths are covered with dog shit, broken glass, men's and kid's piss, and big old slimy green hawkers. Yes, I speak from experience.

      But I do go barefoot at home, since I grew up with shoes too small due to my mother's conviction that small feet were a matter of pride, and as a result have badly twisted bones that pinch the nerves if I don't go barefoot to spread my feet. I had to walk with a cane by the age of 24 because the pain was so severe. My feet gained a full shoe size in six months when my doctor told me to go barefoot as much as possible.

    30. Re:My office mate from India by encoderer · · Score: 4, Funny

      You just have to wear it proud. That's the problem with AIDS, too many people walking around ashamed of the lesions on their face. I walk around with lesions and I make it look good. More girls talk to me *because* of it.

    31. Re:My office mate from India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induction_cooker

    32. Re:My office mate from India by The+Grand+Falloon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Y'ever beat the shit out of your mom with that cane? 'Cause you probably should.

    33. Re:My office mate from India by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Curiosity, and science...

      Science is not for pussies!

      And, as for this one:

      I saw a thing on a some cable channel show, where a saw blade would instantly stop [sawstop.com] when you put your finger into it.

      I would very much want to know, and I would test it -- not with a human finger, but with something I wouldn't mind seeing chopped in half. If it fails the test, it goes back to the store. If it's a scam, they get what they deserve -- if it's merely defective, I get one that actually works.

      Now, I'll reject GP's notion of testing all basic assumptions myself, certainly where it carries significant risk of bodily harm, but mostly because there are simply too many to test all of them.

      At the same time, it is that willingness to test things, even when there is significant risk of bodily harm (see Marie Curie), that drives science forward.

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    34. Re:My office mate from India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's because there are allready over 1 billion in India, and we Microsoft don't want to "inflame" the population if they can help it ... This probably means M$ is a racist organization. (Hard to believe considering the amount of Indians employed by Microsoft!)

    35. Re:My office mate from India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With an induction plate you won't be burned....

    36. Re:My office mate from India by Lennie · · Score: 1

      I'll like to quote Linus Torvalds, when he was talking on a very different matter: these people are dump, stupid and ugly.

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    37. Re:My office mate from India by grumbel · · Score: 1

      My microwave can do that right now.

    38. Re:My office mate from India by GayBliss · · Score: 1

      So then the question becomes why is it wrong to show affection towards someone you care about? If your best friend died would you feel sad? Would you go to his funeral? Would you hide your feelings from others at the funeral? Or are you comfortable letting others know that you care about your friends?

      I'm not criticizing you, they are just rhetorical questions. Clearly it would take a long time for someone to be comfortable with holding hands with their friends after being raised with the idea that it is only a prelude to sex.

      I live in Spain where it is quite common to see men holding hands, hugging, and kissing (on the cheek). In general, men don't hold hands unless they are gay, except for family members. It's very common to see fully adult men from the middle east holding hands with their elders. Kissing on the check as a greeting is done between nearly all women/women and women/men, and sometimes men/men, depending mostly on how close they are (never in a business situation).

      It's also very common to see high school boys with their arms around each other even while they are flirting with girls.

    39. Re:My office mate from India by Knuckles · · Score: 1

      Try MBT shoes.. Seriously. My T'ai Chi Ch'uan teacher recommended them to me in order to help improve my fucked up anatomy and they worked wonders. Haven't worn any other shoes since, because it just feels too wrong.

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    40. Re:My office mate from India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yea, especially if you haven't been paying attention to stove technology... In ten years, stoves may be able to return to room temperature in an instant when exposed to living tissue. I'd hate to miss out on cool tech like that just because of assumptions based on old info.

      Technology is way ahead of you - induction burners.

    41. Re:My office mate from India by matria · · Score: 1

      barefoot's cheaper

    42. Re:My office mate from India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because lots of men don't wash their hands, and it grosses people out that they've doubled the chances of spreading swine flu.

      Or, for that matter, dick flu.

      I used to wonder about people who would take an extra paper towel to use on the door handle when leaving the bathroom at work. Then it hit me -- if you see someone obviously on their way out without washing their hands, you may as well just reach into their pants and grab their dick -- cut out the middleman (or middle-door-handle).There's hardly much ppoint in washing your hands, then grabbing the same handle he just held in his dick-hand.

      Unless, of course, you know he's a devout Muslim and you saw him use his right hand on the door. But wait -- shouldn't he still be using his left hand on the door?

    43. Re:My office mate from India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except an induction cooker. What may seem hot may not be. With the relatively recent mainstream adoption (say 10 years) of induction cookers it would be fair to say that it would be a good idea to test. But only an idiot would use their hand first.

    44. Re:My office mate from India by Knuckles · · Score: 1

      Barefoot is great on natural ground. The surfaces on which most of us usually walk, such as asphalt or wooden floors, however, are not so great because they are too hard and too even and thus don't challenge your musculoskeletal system sufficiently. E.g., even surfaces remove the need to constantly rebalance your body in order to compensate for changes in ground elevation, gradient, or softness.

      Also, shoes do protect you from the dirt on urban streets, as you wrote, and thus allow you to train/condition your feet/body even where you cannot go barefoot. But hey, whatever floats your boat, it was just a suggestion, no need to say thanks.

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    45. Re:My office mate from India by dfjunior · · Score: 2, Informative

      it's real as shit and it barely nicks a hot dog: http://www.sawstop.com/howitworks/how_overview.php

    46. Re:My office mate from India by bentcd · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I saw a thing on a some cable channel show, where a saw blade would instantly stop [sawstop.com] when you put your finger into it.

      I would very much want to know, and I would test it -- not with a human finger, but with something I wouldn't mind seeing chopped in half. If it fails the test, it goes back to the store. If it's a scam, they get what they deserve -- if it's merely defective, I get one that actually works.

      If this is the one they showed on Time Warp then triggering the automatic stop also breaks the machine (all that energy has to go /somewhere/) so it will be going back to the store whether it works or not.

      The one you get back will either be a different one or a repaired one, and you would of course have to test to see if the automatic stop still works . . .

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    47. Re:My office mate from India by mcvos · · Score: 1

      It's an interesting lesson in homophobia, isn't it? In muslim countries, where homosexuality is sometimes severely punishable, there's also no taboo on men holding hands. The implication is that they are friends. It's only in the West (most of europe too, as far as I know) where men don't hold hands because it's gay.

      Even men who kiss men (a taboo that is slowly receding fortunately) don't hold hands as far as I know. Maybe it's more an invasion of personal space thing than that it's gay? We don't mind women invading our personal space, but with men it shouldn't take more than a hug or a kiss?

    48. Re:My office mate from India by tonique · · Score: 3, Funny

      Ken sent me.

      Wait... uh...

    49. Re:My office mate from India by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      "Just curious, why is it so bad in the US for two men to hold hands in public ?"

      Well, I guess if you're GAY, then there's nothing wrong with it. Personally "I" don't really want to see it, but it is a free country.

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    50. Re:My office mate from India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      "I don't think anyone will go wrong in assuming an operating stove is hot. "

      Tell that to every small child.

    51. Re:My office mate from India by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      "I used to wonder about people who would take an extra paper towel to use on the door handle when leaving the bathroom at work. Then it hit me -- if you see someone obviously on their way out without washing their hands, you may as well just reach into their pants and grab their dick -- cut out the middleman (or middle-door-handle).There's hardly much ppoint in washing your hands, then grabbing the same handle he just held in his dick-hand."

      Hmm...well, I'd pretty much consider my dick to be just as clean on me as any other part of my body, I mean, I do bathe at least once a day, and during a normal day, my dick touches far less that my hands for example.

      That, and after years of practice, I've learned not to piss on myself when in the restroom.

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    52. Re:My office mate from India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Way to be a cunt. You don't go barefoot EVERYWHERE, do you? No, you don't. So how about a "thank you". Maybe your mom was trying to punish you for being a bitch, instead of caring about your shoe size.

    53. Re:My office mate from India by Steve+Franklin · · Score: 1

      Talk about changing the terms of the discussion in order to try to score points. Where did this mythological stove come from? What does it have to do with self image? Nothing!

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    54. Re:My office mate from India by that+IT+girl · · Score: 1

      Not all women, certainly... but depending on the study you read, there's something like a 15-40% higher percentage of women than men who do. (I know, crazy gap in the numbers--I don't claim any percentage is spot on, but none of them claimed men washed more than women, so I guess that particular fact is safe to believe.)

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    55. Re:My office mate from India by Jeremy+Erwin · · Score: 3, Informative

      You'll need to replace the brake assembly and and possibly the blade It's mildly expensive, but it you have a spare assembly, it can be replaced in five minutes.

    56. Re:My office mate from India by Fieryphoenix · · Score: 1

      It's common almost everywhere. In fact, it is far more common for friends to touch each other in all kinds of ways than it is now. I was born in the early 70s, and I dimly remember the quite different American expectations of the time regarding men and women, and homosexuality for that matter. It was still normal then for male friends to walk next to each other each with an arm draped over the others shoulder. Heck, manly professional football players would slap each others asses during games for all to see. As the nineties drew on, everyone sort of clammed up and very anxious not to "be gay" and all that stopped.

    57. Re:My office mate from India by icegreentea · · Score: 1

      For what it's worth, all the new cast saws in hospitals are like they. They'll happily saw through plaster or fiber glass, but when it hits your skin, it just turns into this weird buzzing/massage sensation. No skin break or bruising or anything.

      In that context... the nurse/doctor had every reason to show me that it worked. I was fucking scared shitless till she casually attempted to split her arm into two. After that, I just really wanted to play with it.

    58. Re:My office mate from India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now you're saying even *machines* can give me the cold shoulder?

    59. Re:My office mate from India by dunkelfalke · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Even an induction stove can get pretty hot after use because the heat of the cookware transfers back to the top plate. It can even get so hot that the stove gives an error and shuts down because of overheating.

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    60. Re:My office mate from India by naoursla · · Score: 1

      I can put my hand near a hot stove to test that hypothesis. I don't have to expose my hand to tissue-damaging levels of heat to do so.

      Induction stove tops don't get hot (so I hear).

      http://theinductionsite.com/proandcon.shtml

    61. Re:My office mate from India by naoursla · · Score: 1

      That is correct. The energy in a spinning saw blade has to be dissipated in a fraction of a second. I seem to remember the friction used to do so creates enough heat to fuse the saw blade with the brake pads.

      You can test it with hotdog.

    62. Re:My office mate from India by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's why I open the door with my dick.

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    63. Re:My office mate from India by akayani · · Score: 1

      Which clearly means we should hold hands much more often. It's odd that holding hands in the boardroom of major corporations isn't more common given how they are so good at rimming.

    64. Re:My office mate from India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You might want to check your basic assumptions about AIDS. Just some hints: Needles don't get infected, people do. When they get infected, it's not with AIDS but with HIV. A HIV infection can result in AIDS if not treated, but many people live with HIV without getting AIDS. HIV is very short lived when exposed to air.

    65. Re:My office mate from India by Mad-Bassist · · Score: 1

      Aye, Russell Peters is great, but you gotta keep in mind he's Canadian since he grew up there.

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    66. Re:My office mate from India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When it's hot, I like to run around barefoot. Even when shopping, etc.

      Not sure where you live, but where I live, that's a very bad idea. All sorts of nasty shit on the streets & sidewalks.

    67. Re:My office mate from India by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      It's more than that, I think. Holding hands makes two people physically close, and that's very uncomfortable for many North Americans, just like standing too close together is very uncomfortable for them. Americans generally don't like to be that close to people they don't know and aren't comfortable with.

    68. Re:My office mate from India by petermgreen · · Score: 1

      Afaict those things work by using a very short reciprocating action so they will cut hard materials but when they touch skin it just moves and doesn't get cut.

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    69. Re:My office mate from India by kitsunewarlock · · Score: 1

      America has a very big "no touching" policy. Sometimes its racial ("unclean!"), germ-related ("unclean!") or (most commonly) lawsuit fueled ("Sexual Harassment!"). People are expected to keep at least 6 inches between them and the other people in front of them, and at least 3 inches between them and the people to their left and right (this changes if you happen to be standing back to back). If you stand face to face, you need to keep at least two feet between your faces, and at least 1 foot between your bodies. Touching is a huge "no-no", as it can offend and scare Americans. While I'm at it, don't stand face-to-face if you can help it unless you intend to talk with someone. You should also avoid eye contact if in any of the larger cities, as people are afraid of getting assaulted for intimidating the wrong kind of people ("gang members everywhere!") even if those people represent a minority of those living in the city. It also just pisses people off, and really any sort of heated confrontation is avoided at all costs (even just raising your voice to clarify something can be seen as hostile).
      This rule is just the norm in "American white America". Small (usually racial) communities have their own customs ("Ghettos", Barrios, X-town, etc...) that differ from the norm usually *If* you can be perceived as a member of these communities.
      Touching is also a huge no-no in central-east Asia, such as China and Japan. Especially Japan.

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    70. Re:My office mate from India by kchrist · · Score: 1

      Why would it bother you to see it? Do you feel the same way about straight couples holding hands?

    71. Re:My office mate from India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Guess I shouldn't assume that the "hot stove" I am to check would be hot just because you say it would be. Might as well turn it on first, just to make sure.

    72. Re:My office mate from India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://www.countercurrents.org/arora190808.htm

      Sure it's not homosexual -- in the same way that Bill Clinton did not have sexual relations with that woman.

    73. Re:My office mate from India by stdarg · · Score: 1

      In Muslim countries there are a lot of homosexual acts carried out by otherwise heterosexual people simply due to the lack of contact with women (so it seems). It's a lot like theories about the Catholic priest scandals, as well as boarding schools in England 50 years ago.

      Check out this report from a few years ago: http://www.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2004/07/11/open_secrets/

      I know some people from Pakistan and that article definitely echoes things I've heard from them.

      I'll also note that Islam has some interesting takes on sexual acts. It seems to have a lot of stuff built into it that acknowledges (and praises) the strength of men's sexual desires, and makes allowances for them. Example: IIRC you're not supposed to have sex with your slaves, BUT if your wife is having her period, you can. You're not supposed to have sex before marriage, BUT if you're out on war/jihad away from your wife, you can have a "temporary marriage" to women you capture for the purposes of sex (this one I'm sure about). So it's not at all surprising to me that having sex with boys and younger men is -- while definitely not "right" -- an acceptable outlet as long as it's not done too prominently.

      As to the holding hands thing specifically, I don't know. It's possible it has no gay connotations but I would be surprised if that's the case. Why is it a stronger argument to say that it has no gay connotations rather than to say that certain homosexual expressions are simply more pervasive in those cultures? On the other hand, I think it's important to distinguish between acts we associate with being gay versus self-identifying as gay. I think that's a big reason why people from Muslim countries say they don't have any/many gays.

    74. Re:My office mate from India by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      "Why would it bother you to see it? Do you feel the same way about straight couples holding hands?"

      No...pretty common to see straight people having contact in public. Not something you're used to seeing with gay guys. And yes it bothers me to see it...I think it does most straight men, pretty common.

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    75. Re:My office mate from India by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

      My stove IS NOT hot! It's a induction cooker!

      Thank you for making my point even stronger, by showing exactly what I mean! ^^

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    76. Re:My office mate from India by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

      Yeah. Right. So how do you know about girls, from your basement, that you apparently never left.
      Because else, you would know better:

      1. There is some advanced technology, that prevents you from stepping into anything bad. It's called eyes. And from my experience, it works very well.
      2. There is as second technology, that's called horny skin. And it even protects from most things that you did not see. I can step onto bees and many thorns without fear.
      3. I get some girl talking to me, saying that it's cool that I'm doing that, grinning at me in a flirting way, and wanting to learn to know me, from once a month to once a week, in the summer time. Even though I'm 25 kg overweight.
      4. As I said, I wear really cool clothes, and am well-groomed (correct translation of "gepflegt"?). People literally tell me that I look like a Hawaiian from the beach. Pretty cool, eh?
      5. Are you jealeous, or just unable to comprehend, that it works pretty well for me.
      6. Who cares. Go ahead and continue to live like you do. It will result in more girls for cool people. TYVM. ^^

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    77. Re:My office mate from India by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

      I read the background about MBT. It's actually something between just as bad as regular shoes, and even worse.
      Additionally, you still create the perfect living space for athlete's foot. ^^
      MBT also actively suppresses studies that show this.

      So I would avoid them at all cost.

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    78. Re:My office mate from India by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

      Sad that people can sue for their own stupidity. :/

      I think here in Germany, if you did not deliberately hurt someone, the judge would throw the case out, and tell you to use your freakin' eyes. ^^

      You are right that there is much crap and parasites.
      But what apparently nobody knows anymore, is that we are made for this.
      The skin, especially the horny skin of the feet, is a very good protective layer. Nearly nothing can penetrate it, if it's in the natural state it is meant to be.
      Just look at the natives that run though the jungle in just a penis-hiding something, all day long.

      Again, I have one solution: Use your eyes.
      And if you somehow did not look, and it also penetrated the skin, put some skin antibiotics and disinfeting stuff on it, and the next day, you're good again.

      I think what most people forget, is that shoes are a special tool, for cases that are too extreme, even for the natural protections.
      Like extreme heat, coldness, or dangerous materials.
      There it's a nice tool.
      But for day-to-day things, like going shopping, being in your garden, and going to work: If you *need* shoes for it, something is very wrong with that place. :)

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    79. Re:My office mate from India by Knuckles · · Score: 1

      Links? My experience says otherwise, and so do numerous other users, amateur and professional. I also wonder how MBT would go about suppressing studies, it's not as if they are a powerful multinational conglomerate or anything.

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    80. Re:My office mate from India by kchrist · · Score: 1

      Congratulations, you're a bigot.

    81. Re:My office mate from India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      same for guys kissing each other in argentina. but it's ok, argentinians say.

      its not in whole Argentina, just in Buenos Aires. In the rest of the country its not common practice

    82. Re:My office mate from India by badkarmadayaccount · · Score: 1

      Quit giving them ideas, nitwit.

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    83. Re:My office mate from India by jonadab · · Score: 1

      Oh, you haven't noticed? When people are holding hands in a non-sexual context, like helping your kid cross the street safely or not get lost in a crowd, they hold hands handshake-style, with each person keeping their four fingers together. When people are holding hands in a sexual context, they generally interleave their fingers between those of the other person.

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    84. Re:My office mate from India by jonadab · · Score: 1

      > Because lots of men don't wash their hands

      You have to at least run the water for a moment. People can hear that, even through a closed bathroom door, and they'll notice if you don't, and it grosses them out. So simple courtesy dictates that you at least turn on the sink for a few seconds while you zip up. Think of it as a basic social skill.

      Ha. Now you get to wonder whether I'm completely serious.

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  10. Work-related? by Excaliburszone · · Score: 5, Funny

    Perhaps Microsoft doesn't want it's tech support searching for certain things while on the job?

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    1. Re:Work-related? by SinShiva · · Score: 1

      oh no he din't

    2. Re:Work-related? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Should the apostrophe not be before the "n" since that's where you started dropping letters?

    3. Re:Work-related? by Excaliburszone · · Score: 1

      I did, as a joke, not as anything else, especially not Trolling...sheesh.

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    4. Re:Work-related? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, I worked for MSFT tech support. The IIS and Media Server support groups have windowless offices that techs use when assisting customers who run sexually explicit websites.

  11. Can someone in India please try this link by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 1
    1. Re:Can someone in India please try this link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've been using live to search for cracks and serials for quite some time. The results are excellent in both quality and number compared to those of Google. It's good to see that they continue the legacy through bing. Microsoft rocks!

    2. Re:Can someone in India please try this link by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 1

      It works on the India site and even comes up in the search suggestions.

    3. Re:Can someone in India please try this link by Thinboy00 · · Score: 1

      Why is TPB in Microsoft's index?

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    4. Re:Can someone in India please try this link by mail2345 · · Score: 1

      It's not their index?

    5. Re:Can someone in India please try this link by Darkness404 · · Score: 1

      Because otherwise TPB would sue MS? Its a lot easier to say "we don't filter anything" on the rare occasions that someone might find something totally objectionable but a lot harder to justify "Oh we blocked this, this, this, and this because they might be illegal" because thats just inviting lawsuits. Its hard enough for Google to have adwords let alone filtering of searches.

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    6. Re:Can someone in India please try this link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      but they just blocked indians from getting sex results.

    7. Re:Can someone in India please try this link by Darkness404 · · Score: 1

      Pornography in India is illegal and attracts several penal provisions. The law also states that distributing and publishing pornography is illegal.

      From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porn_in_India

      Assuming that most of the top sex results would have been from porn sites which would have been illegal under the law, I don't think they could sue. On the other hand most torrent sites have a lot of legal content on them.

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    8. Re:Can someone in India please try this link by dcollins117 · · Score: 1

      Pornography in India is illegal and attracts several penal provisions.

      Emphasis mine. Is that the best word choice? It sounds so dirty.

  12. Thank Goodness! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    Someone cares about morals and propriety. The internet is no place for sex, especially Indian sex. If I was in charge no-one would be allowed to have sex or talk about sex or read about sex because sex is dirty and immoral and leads to crime, drug use, malfeasance, insouciance, laziness, ugliness, and general badness.

    1. Re:Thank Goodness! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I agree. sex is just downright wrong and needs to be stopped at every turn. Otherwise our children might grow up thinking sex is okay.

    2. Re:Thank Goodness! by Thinboy00 · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, the general population is actually that stupid. Please be less subtle.

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    3. Re:Thank Goodness! by msh104 · · Score: 1

      Well... i have to grant you that without sex all of these things would indeed not exist.. :p

  13. Pointing out the obvious... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If their population, and the Kama Sutra, are any indication, the cat is definitely out of the bag! Why Microsoft would choose to limit this information is beyond me...

    1. Re:Pointing out the obvious... by dwywit · · Score: 1

      But It's Not Google

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    2. Re:Pointing out the obvious... by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      Let me equally obviously point out the fact that the Kama Sutra is not what you think it is. Please stop this blatant misrepresentation.

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    3. Re:Pointing out the obvious... by fishbowl · · Score: 1

      >Let me equally obviously point out the fact that the Kama Sutra is not what you think it is.

      I have read what I believe to be a reasonably faithful translation. What do you "think they think it is?"

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    4. Re:Pointing out the obvious... by UziBeatle · · Score: 1

      Bah , humbuggery.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kama_sutra

        That is the source of all true knowledge. If lord Wiki says thus, it is thus.

        Anyway, on subject and despite being beat to the punch.

        This blatant censorship is an outrage of the highest irony, considering India is the birth place
      of the Kama Sutra papers.

        I smell a conspiracy of the deepest sort, perhaps one relating to the New World Order Revolutionary Army (TM Soros Group), to foment discontent and malfusion** among the masses and further their diabolical plans.

      (** TM The Colbert Group)

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    5. Re:Pointing out the obvious... by vidnet · · Score: 1

      They can't beat Google on results, so perhaps they want to talk schools and libraries into setting Microsoft Bing as their search page?

      India is a huge source of new IT users with no existing search engine relationship. If Microsoft can make Bing their first exposure to web searches by playing the morality card, they could win a significant amount of users.

  14. Seriously by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Google blocks searches for "Freedom" "Liberty" and other similar terms in China.

    You Google fanboys really need to stop drinking the Kool-Aid(TM), Google is no better than Microsoft.

    1. Re:Seriously by Thinboy00 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Did the Indian gov't ask Microsoft to block "sex"?

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    2. Re:Seriously by Looce · · Score: 2, Interesting

      China has a very oppressive government; India doesn't, as far as I know. It would be interesting to see whether Bing works at all in China... or if it's "restricted" in China like Google Search is.

      However, compare Internet censorship in the People's Republic of China ("new regulations to be enforced by the ministry that inflict fines for 'defaming government agencies,' 'splitting the nation,' and leaking "state secrets."")

      and Censorship in India, which is also applied to the Internet ("Some media dealing with sex are frequently banned. Films, television shows and music videos are especially prone, however if any literature is banned, it is not usually for pornographic reasons.")

      It would also be interesting to know whether Microsoft blocked 'sex' on Bing/India by request. or of its own volition to prevent possible repercussions. The law is enforced more heavily in China than in India, that's for sure.

    3. Re:Seriously by Darkness404 · · Score: 1

      But there are a few differences. One, we have no evidence that the Indian government (which isn't as totalitarian as China's) asked MS to remove this term like in China. Two, Google has a responsibility to its shareholders to make the most profit. If Google got themselves banned from one of the largest developing economies with the most population and a captive audience, shareholders wouldn't be happy. Three, even though MS has this responsibility, there is no evidence they would be kicked out of India or India banning its citizens from accessing Bing like China would have done to Google.

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    4. Re:Seriously by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

      China has a very oppressive government; India doesn't, as far as I know.

      You're confusing "democratic" and "non-oppressive". India is a democratic country, but it is definitely oppressive in some aspects. For example, homosexuality is a crime in India, punished by several years of jail time.

    5. Re:Seriously by Warlord88 · · Score: 1

      For example, homosexuality is a crime in India, punished by several years of jail time.

      Only on paper. I haven't heard a single case (at least in recent times) where a homosexual is actually put on trial, found guilty and given jail time.

    6. Re:Seriously by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe Microsoft outsourced the programming to India so they took the initiative themselves?

  15. how about bing? by youn · · Score: 1

    it could be argued that there is a song about sex, "she bings" ... "she bings, she bings... I like the way she movze"... or something like that"

    pardhon mye spehling,

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  16. Tested and confirmed but... by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It does stop you form searching for sex. Guess what, goatse gives the same result too! However you can search for:

    allah is gay
    gay
    nigger
    make bombs
    bombing building
    bme pain olympics
    2 girls 1 cup

    1. Re:Tested and confirmed but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some tit doesn't know how to use his mod points. There is no problem with pointing out the flaws in their censorship.

    2. Re:Tested and confirmed but... by wild_quinine · · Score: 4, Insightful

      However you can search for: allah is gay gay nigger make bombs bombing building bme pain olympics 2 girls 1 cup

      ... And since Microsoft has blocked the things it disapproves of, we can only assume that they're in favour of all of the above, especially the bottom one.

      Somebody who isn't a shit-eating, racist, lesbian, terrorist ought to sue the pants off them.

    3. Re:Tested and confirmed but... by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      However you can search for: ...2 girls 1 cup

      Who needs sex when you have 2 chicks 1 cup?

    4. Re:Tested and confirmed but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      ...and now you're on every FBI, CIA, NSA, and Homeland Security watchlist all in one go. Congrats! Have fun in Guantanamo...

      Ugh, I hate this place... Too bad we don't have that constitution thing to protect us anymore...

    5. Re:Tested and confirmed but... by CosmeticLobotamy · · Score: 1

      Somebody who isn't a shit-eating, racist, lesbian, terrorist ought to sue the pants off them.

      This is Slashdot. Where are we going to find one of those?

    6. Re:Tested and confirmed but... by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 1

      Pick a UID. Any UID. I'm pretty sure there are few homosexual women lurking here.

  17. Foot, meet gun by Lonewolf666 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Congratulations, Microsoft. You have just blocked one of the most popular topics on the internet, forcing people to use an other search engine. Google will love this decision ;-)

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    1. Re:Foot, meet gun by Thinboy00 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      [snip]another[snip]

      There, fixed that for you.

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    2. Re:Foot, meet gun by networkzombie · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Due to the religious nature of the vast majority of peoples in India, once they hear that it blocks offensive content it may become the search engine of choice.

    3. Re:Foot, meet gun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      gosh, who know "another" came from an other word.

    4. Re:Foot, meet gun by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

      Yeah right. Because them saying that they are, means they will not look for porn in every second where nobody watches. ^^

      Sex is the second most important motivation of survival, right below eating. In fact it's why we exist. Welcome to reality.

      <parody>Bonobo style for LIFE, biatches!</parody> ;)

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    5. Re:Foot, meet gun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Due to the religious nature of the vast majority of peoples in India, once they hear that it blocks offensive content it may become the search engine of choice.

      Dunno, the Indians do seem to search for it a lot.

      India Ranked number 1 for searching for "sex".
      Top 10 cities searching for "sex" include: 1 Delhi, 2 Chennai, 4 Mumbai

      India Ranked number 7 searching for "porn" (Way to go Ireland Number 1!). With Delhi at number 6.

    6. Re:Foot, meet gun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kind of an invalid statement, most people in India are Hindu, Buddhist, or Sikh, not conservative Christians. Ever heard of the Kama Sutra, tantra, or my personal favorite, Bhang?

    7. Re:Foot, meet gun by the_womble · · Score: 1

      People who do not want offensive content will just leave Google's default "moderate safe search" filter on.

      I would also guess that the heavy internet users are not likely to be the most conservative people. Take a look at the Alexa list of the most popular sites in India. There are a good many porn sites in the top 100

      If they are trying to avoid legal problems, it is a pretty poor attempt. You can still get sexually explicit content through more imaginative searches, and play the videos on the Bing site itself.

      I wonder what your religious users will make of that?

  18. Bling is banned by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    By several providers of 'content filter devices'.

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  19. The ironing is delicious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Kind of ironic, since India is the home of the Kama Sutra and all. . .

  20. In all fairness to Microsoft by nurb432 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The Indian government might have demanded it.. stranger things have happened.

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    1. Re:In all fairness to Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But they don't care about google, which is much more prolific?

    2. Re:In all fairness to Microsoft by Sc4Freak · · Score: 5, Informative

      It wasn't a government demand, but Microsoft voluntarily banned these search terms in order to comply with local laws in various countries.

      An article on Ars Technica found that 20% of regions had sexual content blocked.

      The article states, "Microsoft says it determined this list of regions by looking at their local laws. The company is not taking action in response to specific government demands or regulations; it is simply playing it safe."

    3. Re:In all fairness to Microsoft by mqduck · · Score: 1

      In that case, it's almost certainly because of Bing's video search feature and the desire to not gain an early reputation as the porn search engine.

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    4. Re:In all fairness to Microsoft by nurb432 · · Score: 1

      Well, its already been banned at the office because of this.

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    5. Re:In all fairness to Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Talking about sex in public is a taboo in India.

  21. Excellent marketing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bing's different content-filter policies are making the news everywhere. Sex sells and Bing seems to be an excellent porn search engine, with the easy video previews and Web 2.0 image search.

  22. Traditional newspapers by PingXao · · Score: 1

    Just last week reps from many dead-tree newspaper publishing companies in America got together at a conference to explore ways they could remain profitable in the face of blogs and other online news sources. The conclusions and statements they agreed on in the end prove out this fact: they are no longer interested in "journalism" (investigative reporting is almost completely dead). No, their main goal is 30% profit margins to ensure "shareholder value".

    I suggest that the big search engines - all of them, you know who they are - are also intereted in maximizing profits, not providing "quality search results". That's why MS is censoring searches for "sex" in India, Google caved into the demands of the Chinese government a year ago (or more), possibly they all restrict searching for "Nazi" or "Hitler" in Europe.

    They have to be politically the equivalent of non-offensive and milquetoast, or risk the loss of revenue and profits.

    There's nothing inherently wrong or evil with those policies. I think it's important to realize what's going on, however, and the last thing these companies will ever do is admit to the truth. The truth goes against what they claim as their mission. At least with Microsoft, everyone on the face of the planet who deals with computers or programming to make a living knows they're a great big lying sack of shit. The masses do not.

    1. Re:Traditional newspapers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Your argument kinda melted down into vitriol a little at the end there. Easily done when the topic is MS I know!

      However, fair points. Corporations care nothing for "good" or "right" - nor do they specifically go out of the way to be "evil". Corporate decision making is based primarily on the profit motive - other considerations are secondary. The decisions that result are ultimately amoral, not necessarily immoral.

      Truth is something that a corporation will employ in its statements and publications only so long as there is an estimable return in doing so.

      Where we can get away with saying, "Our product is definitely better than all our competitors' products" and the estimable cost of fines, consumer backlash or other bureaucratic costs that might result from blazon lying are significantly less than the estimable profit from gullible rubes buying our product because they thought we must be telling the truth... then we make that statement.

      It's not that we the corporation specifically /intend/ harm to consumers. It's simply that we don't ultimately care one way or the other so long as the profit trend from consumer spending on our products is upwards.

    2. Re:Traditional newspapers by blackest_k · · Score: 1

      What is Google, most people would say a search engine but is it?
      Googles income comes from providing links to adverts that relate to a particular search provided of course people searching with Google click on the ads.

      If a particular search results in you clicking on to a search result rather than an advert google hasn't earned anything. Some of these ads cost a sizable amount for that click.

      If you wanted to improve google as a search engine then making it easy to filter out particular sites could dramatically improve the front page results. Also to limit the area's in which search results come from is another obvious choice. For example if your looking for a restaurant you might want to limit your search to restaurants within say 20 miles of your location.

      user preferences should be able to hold a list of unwanted sites, ebay and wikipedia seem obvious choices along with sites which seem to think when you look for one thing that you want another thing instead.

      Some of these things like searching for stuff within a geographical location might sound hard to implement but google allows advertisers to target ads to city level.

      So really when you search with google you are the product google is selling to its advertisers.

      Google may be best for search but its not as good as it could be, unfortunately becoming a better search engine could be detrimental to their bottom line as less ads get clicked.

      This pretty much goes for any search engine not just google but if your competing with google, localising search and allowing users to filter out sites and types of sites would give an edge over google. Perhaps there would need to be a why search option (looking to buy something would filter different results compared to say technical information)

  23. Bing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People use Bing?

  24. Phimsex and Sexviet by Greg+Hullender · · Score: 1
    Never mind India -- notice that when you do a US search for "sex" Bing suggests you also search for "phimsex" and "sexviet". Neither of these terms is in the Urban dictionary, but (based on the search results) I think they're both synonyms for "spam".

    --Greg

  25. and then... it was banned. by im_thatoneguy · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornography_in_India

    Pornography is illegal in India. I assume the reason Microsoft bans the word "Sex" is ensure it is not sued as a pornography distributor.

    1. Re:and then... it was banned. by SinShiva · · Score: 1

      'pron' was used in the past to slink by shitty filtration. and the internet is made of interconnecting tubes.

    2. Re:and then... it was banned. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornography_in_India

      Pornography is illegal in India. I assume the reason Microsoft bans the word "Sex" is ensure it is not sued as a pornography distributor.

      Google hasnt been sued yet.....

    3. Re:and then... it was banned. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google has no offices or assets in India most likely.

    4. Re:and then... it was banned. by witherstaff · · Score: 3, Funny

      It's still used, it's part of what firefox so great.

      Why the name "libpr0n"?

      The main goal of the library is to render pornographic images in an efficient way. Plus, the name "imglib2" is boring.

    5. Re:and then... it was banned. by Triv · · Score: 1

      Pornography and sex are related, and while porn is sexual in nature, sex is not in its nature pornographic.. Unless sex is illegal in India, Microsoft's stance on this is jaw-clenchingly idiotic.

    6. Re:and then... it was banned. by im_thatoneguy · · Score: 3, Informative

      Google hasnt been sued yet.....

      Yet. They have been in the US.

      The Indian law is far more general than US law.

      Publishing of information which is obscene in electronic form. - Whoever publishes or transmits or causes to be published in the electronic form, any material which is lascivious or appeal to the prurient interest or if its effect is such as to tend to deprave and corrupt persons who are likely, having regard to all relevant circumstances, to read, see or hear the matter contained or embodied in it, shall be punished on first conviction with imprisonment of either description for a term which may extend to five years and with fine...

      Being simply responsible for transmitting pornography is punishable as a crime.

      If I was a lawyer and I read that law I would advise my client to at least make token efforts of compliance.

    7. Re:and then... it was banned. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Yep, and FedEx should be held responsible for delivery of Anthrax ridden packages.

    8. Re:and then... it was banned. by wisty · · Score: 1

      It's also illegal in China. The Chinese Bing also blocks naughty words, but interestingly that's all it blocks.

      On a side note, "hot blondes" is blocked, but "hot blonds" (a misspelling) gets: "Results are included for hot blondes."

    9. Re:and then... it was banned. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm in Taiwan, I tried the same search, "sex" returned "the search may return sexually explicit content."

      That seems rather inappropriate in a country where sex thoroughly commercialized, and definitely legal.

      And seriously, can't they just exclude pornographic results? Blocking "sex" as a search term is so blunt.

    10. Re:and then... it was banned. by SnowZero · · Score: 1

      There appears to be four offices in India.

    11. Re:and then... it was banned. by houghi · · Score: 1

      porn is sex. sex does not need to be porn.

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    12. Re:and then... it was banned. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is no law in Germany against pornography. Bing censors anyway. I think they are just trying to see how far they can go in certain countries without losing clients. They will eventually develop a censoring filter for every country as a compromise between what they think a government might want from them and what they can do without losing business.

    13. Re:and then... it was banned. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google hasnt been sued yet.....

      Yeah, but until now Google haven't had a competitor blocking "sex" searches on their own search engine and lobbying the Indian Government to prosecute those who don't. Things can change.

    14. Re:and then... it was banned. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe if they allowed porn, they wouldn't have a problem with overpopulation

    15. Re:and then... it was banned. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny that they banned porn in the country that gave us the Kama Sutra.

    16. Re:and then... it was banned. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it's not. "Blond" is the masculine gender, "blonde" the feminine.

  26. Another Microsoft foolish move by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If there is no sex in India, why are there so many people?

    Is Bing the Zune of search services?

  27. What happens if you type "zzzz"? by Cassini2 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Does "zzzz" get you sex?

    Microsoft Spell Check Easter Eggs.

    1. Re:What happens if you type "zzzz"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does "zzzz" get you sex?

      Only if you are a pretty girl who passes out at a frat party.

  28. Also, because we aren't having any by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Seeing other people have sex or talk about it is depressing. Depression is a serious illness.

  29. With the Kama Sutra ... by bkaul · · Score: 0, Redundant

    ... maybe Microsoft just figured it'd be redundant.

  30. Snake Sex? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think it might be better for humanity if search engines did indeed censor out the results one might obtain by searching for the term "Snake Sex"....along with Goatse =)

  31. Population Control by CougMerrik · · Score: 5, Funny

    There's how many people in India? Over a billion? Maybe it should just redirect to "Did you mean to search for Birth Control?"

    1. Re:Population Control by Hurricane78 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Only when you are extinct, and every human is an Indian, will you know what the point of their reproduction is... Oh, wait...

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    2. Re:Population Control by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think allowing half a billion men to jerk off to pr0n would be a form of birth control. :-)

  32. I guess it's taboo..but.. by grasshoppa · · Score: 1

    Have we considered that the Indian government forced this requirement on MS? MS isn't exactly known for sticking to their morals..on pretty much anyway, so why do we automatically assume it's their fault?

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  33. What about... by Phroggy · · Score: 1

    "sexually transmitted diseases"?
    "sexual abuse support groups"?
    "sexual harassment statistics"?
    "sex discrimination"?
    "sex education"?
    "safe sex"?

    All blocked?

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  34. Happens in Thailand by nisboy · · Score: 1

    Same thing happens when you search from within Thailand.

  35. It's not just India... by ElKry · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There's an entire list of countries where the search returns that message, including germany:

    China
    Hong Kong
    Indonesia
    Malaysia
    Thailand
    Turkey
    And a lot of middle-east places, actually.

    A lots of those I can see how this could make some warped sense for religious/political reasons, but can someone clarify why Germany? What makes it special?

    1. Re:It's not just India... by feepness · · Score: 5, Funny

      A lots of those I can see how this could make some warped sense for religious/political reasons, but can someone clarify why Germany? What makes it special?

      Have you seen German porn?! Blocking the term there is a public service!

    2. Re:It's not just India... by ElKry · · Score: 1

      Well played, sir. Well played.

    3. Re:It's not just India... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's an entire list of countries where the search returns that message, including germany:

      China
      ...

      Well, in fact in China Bing doesn't return anything at all, so I guess you mean pretending to be from China. As of today it's still blocked, probably because their filters weren't good enough.

    4. Re:It's not just India... by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

      I raise you a "Gina Wild".

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    5. Re:It's not just India... by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

      Well. Let's see... There are:

      pornotube
      youporn
      keezmovies
      tube8
      redtube
      etc, etc, etc.

      I know them. Someone I know from the UAE knows them. You know them.

      What's your point again? ^^

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    6. Re:It's not just India... by orangeplanet64 · · Score: 1

      There's an entire list of countries where the search returns that message, including germany: China Hong Kong Indonesia

      what message?.. i'm searching sex with the bing.com from indonesia, and it returned results. wikipedia page is the first result.

    7. Re:It's not just India... by ElKry · · Score: 1

      But are you using the Indonesia version of Bing? If I change my bing.com to Indonesia as my country, I get:

      The search sex may return sexually explicit content.
      To get results, change your search terms.

      and no results whatsoever.

    8. Re:It's not just India... by ElKry · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I meant selection "China" in the country selection of Bing itself. Which means that if/when you are allowed to open it from China, that's what you'll see (unless you change the country, which is fairly trivial).

    9. Re:It's not just India... by the_womble · · Score: 1

      Thailand? Sex is so under wraps there.....

    10. Re:It's not just India... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Germany is really strict on Internet Porn. I know parts of Flickr are blocked in Germany.

    11. Re:It's not just India... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The reasoning behind the choice of blocked words in Germany escapes me, if there is any.
      For example: searching for "Strumpfhose" gives the above warning about sex sites, too.
      However, searching for the english translation "pantyhose" works just fine.

    12. Re:It's not just India... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, there is a large but growing Muslim population there in Germany.

      A lot of the Sharia Laws like to get pushed around by these religious idiots, but unfortunately everyone feels bad for the Muslims these days and nobody wants to call them out on their problems of intollerance.

      Also I don't think MS has anything to do with this and rather it is the Indian government, Googles servers are probably just not located in their borders maybe.

    13. Re:It's not just India... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You might pause to consider whether I'm holding an "Annette Schwarz".

    14. Re:It's not just India... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apparantly the rules for which words "may return sexually explicit content" are rather odd in general. For instance in the German version: if you try to search for "Strumpfhose" ("tights", singular) it refuses to do so.
      However "Strumpfhosen" (plural) is perfectly okay, and bing even suggests - amongst other terms - "Frauen in Strumpfhosen" and "Männer in Strumpfhosen" (women / men in tights) as related searches.

    15. Re:It's not just India... by YourExperiment · · Score: 1

      In Soviet Germany, Gina Wild raises you!

    16. Re:It's not just India... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must have missed the recent political developments in Germany. We have state censorship now.

    17. Re:It's not just India... by 0ld_d0g · · Score: 0

      I didn't know about pornotube and keezmovies. Thanks !!

      BRB !

    18. Re:It's not just India... by thexile · · Score: 1

      Singapore as well. What a fuck up place.

  36. Perhaps this is part of their push for acceptance by PotatoHead · · Score: 1

    they sign on with all the entities that people don't like and don't trust.

    Governments, big media, big corporate, you name it.

    Give them all the nice terms they need to get what they get done, and in return they "prefer" the Microsoft solution. Stir in some clever bundling of products and services and you've got a base for windows leverage yet again.

    Reeks of the same kind of thing that Vista is full of. ...and I could just be ranting too. Maybe they are stupid!

  37. Google definitely has no problem with it... by Z80xxc! · · Score: 4, Informative

    Apparently Google has no problem with Indians searching for the term 'sex.'

    From google trends searching for Sex:

    Regions:

    1. India
    2. Egypt
    3. Indonesia
    4. Morocco
    5. Turkey

    Cities:

    1. Delhi, India
    2. Chennai, India
    3. Jakarta, Indonesia
    4. Mumbai, India
    5. Rabat, Morocco

    Yeah I'd say google has absolutely no problem with people in India searching for "sex".

    1. Re:Google definitely has no problem with it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Microsoft doesnt apparently do a geo-location service for these things. You can search for 'Sex' without changing your preference and still get what you want. Funny, Microsoft didn't think of verifying the source IP.

      http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/347/xxxa.png

    2. Re:Google definitely has no problem with it... by stdarg · · Score: 1

      I've always wondered about those weird stats. How could more internet users (proportionally, I assume) in India be searching for sex than in the US?

      It's interesting that strict religious countries dominate the results for the generic terms. When you start looking at trends for more specific fare, the list changes.

      http://www.google.com/trends?q=lesbian+asian+teens&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=1
      http://www.google.com/trends?q=horse+porn&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0
      http://www.google.com/trends?q=college+coeds&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0

      It's sad in a way.

    3. Re:Google definitely has no problem with it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Incidentally, Delhi is the Indian capitol.

  38. asdf by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    if you bing bing you will break the internet

    (shameless IT crowd plug)

  39. They're afraid that people will... by jazcap · · Score: 3, Funny

    RTFM. With the emphasis on the F.

    1. Re:They're afraid that people will... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    2. Re:They're afraid that people will... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They wrote TFM. With an emphasis on F.

      Kama Sutra, anybody?

  40. Microsoft obviously has to listen to Countries. by Mwise1023 · · Score: 0, Troll

    Heya,<br>

    It's not like M$ just does as they please. The internet is not as <i>free</i> as people seem to think it is. A country can limit and control as much of those pipes as they want. Obviously not everyone gets on board with that. But M$ clearly doesn't want to step on toes and is playing ball with someone. Why else would they limit their search engine in a country like India where sex is far from taboo. But, whatever powers that be with money that M$ is trying to be in bed with have more say with M$ than something like Google. If they were going to limit things from the pipes, then everyone would be limited. But as it is, M$'s search engine is essentially a big `proxy' and it can draw things from other networks to them so naturally it's earier to just have the proxy prevent certain things, or in this case, M$. Google simply would rather get more searches to reveal more ads to make more money. So they don't block stuff. And that's how it should be frankly.<br>

    Very best,

  41. Why bing? by grikdog · · Score: 1

    Aside from a few obvious cultural hooks (bing cherries, Bing Crosby, bing bang bong, etc.) from Advertising Psychology 101, I can't see the attraction. To be honest, I haven't even tried it. More net worth in Google, which is my librarian in the intertubes.

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    1. Re:Why bing? by will_die · · Score: 1

      It was picked because there was nothing similar to the name, easy to say and remember and the most important criteria was that it could be verbified.

  42. Also blocked in South Korea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Google has some interesting stats on the term "sex"

    http://www.google.com/insights/search/#q=sex&cmpt=q

  43. Hasnt the time come yet ? by unity100 · · Score: 0, Redundant

    considering all the flops they have made in the last 3 years, when will it be politically correct to rename them moronsoft ?

    1. Re:Hasnt the time come yet ? by that+IT+girl · · Score: 1

      considering all the flops they have made in the last 15 years, when will it be politically correct to rename them moronsoft?

      there, fixed that for you. :)

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  44. if then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    if the internet is for porn, then what is a search engine that doesnt give you search results for porn good for?

  45. Any single female indian girls? by DiSKiLLeR · · Score: 4, Funny

    A lot of Indian's seem to be posting here, sooo.... any single Indian females by any chance? :)

    (Yup, I'm gonna be modded down to hell, I just know it, but you can't blame a guy for trying !)

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    1. Re:Any single female indian girls? by rob1980 · · Score: 1

      Silly. Everybody knows there are no girls on Slashdot!

    2. Re:Any single female indian girls? by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

      Or on the Internet. (Well, except for the porn ones ^^)

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    3. Re:Any single female indian girls? by chrisarn · · Score: 3, Funny

      Haha, you are quite right girls are like domain names: All the good ones are taken, but you can always find one in a foreign country...

    4. Re:Any single female indian girls? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Slashdot just became an Indian singles site.

      Now we know Slashdot has jumped the shark. :)

    5. Re:Any single female indian girls? by superdana · · Score: 1

      you can't blame a guy for trying !

      Yes you can.

    6. Re:Any single female indian girls? by DiSKiLLeR · · Score: 1

      Wow. You make a snarky comment and add me as a foe.

      How rude.

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    7. Re:Any single female indian girls? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A lot of Indian's WHAT seem to be posting?

  46. irrelevant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    bing is irrelevant, microsoft is irrelevant, google is irrelevant. we are all going to die soon, the end is upon us!

  47. considering that 'sex' is most searched term by postmortem · · Score: 1

    ... this is very dumb on Microsoft's side.

  48. Isn't it obvious? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Isn't it obvious!? They don't want their employees in tech support looking at porn all day!

  49. who needs sex education in india by circletimessquare · · Score: 3, Insightful

    its not like its a highly overpopulated, poor country, right?

    better to keep indians ignorant of sex, in case they were to learn it might not be a good idea to bring yet another mouth to feed into the world

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    1. Re:who needs sex education in india by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think people have needed the Internet to figure out how to have sex so far. The basic thing is pretty much built into us.

      If sex weren't a taboo, maybe it would be easier to have public discussion and education about topics related to it, such as birth control.

    2. Re:who needs sex education in india by that+IT+girl · · Score: 1

      I agree, but even here in the US there are plenty of idiots who know better but still get knocked up. Plenty of children being born to unfit parents, plenty of people who can't afford all the kids they've spawned because they can't keep their legs together. Education helps a little, but it's no magic cure-all for this one, unfortunately. People being forced to be personally responsible for their actions... maybe. But below a certain intelligence/awareness level, base urges override sensibility a majority of the time.

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  50. Bing, like the AppStore, is run in India... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Basically you could call this reverse cultural imperialism, courtesy of the a multi-national's office in India. Which one? Pick one.

    Last time it was Apple, now it's Microsoft.

    That's why you can't search for sex on Bing.de, or buy an app that can search for the Kama Sutra.

    Because doing so would violate the laws of {corp.name}'s India 'Research Office'. Which is where the servers are.

    It's not like this hasn't happened before.

  51. Very interesting. by drolli · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If they don't like explicit content, then should filter the content, not the searches. I think it is possible to return informative web pages about sex.

  52. Remind me again who's evil? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But but but but you told us Google censored results in China, so they fit your worldview by being evil, thus deliciously ironic! But now Google isn't censoring things somewhere?

    I am confused! Please, internet hipster douchebags! Please tell me who's evil and who isn't!

  53. Misspelling gets around it by Nakor+BlueRider · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I did a search for:

    se x

    And got all the results for 'sex'

  54. Marketing Hoax. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I predict that within less than 10 days these restrictions will be lifted. Why? Because there's reason to believe that this is a big (rather desperate) Marketing Hoax.

    Why? Because
    a) they block countries at random,
    b) there's no excuse,
    c) no link to terms of service etc
    d) they are blocking keywords at random (goatse???)

    Possibly they take back these limits even gradually, to make the big crowd and their media even more excited about bing (tm).

  55. Isn't that, what the term... by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

    XXX was invented for?

    Seriously. Who searches for "sex"?

    "two goats on fire, one cup"? Sure. "somethingsomething sex"? Yawn.

    Give them a week, and they can't go back to Playboy level anyway.

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  56. What About the Kama Sutra? by lag10 · · Score: 1

    Some might say it's both pornographic and a significant piece of India's history.

    Isn't India disrespecting a culturally relevant artifact by Microsoft disallowing such a search?

  57. tor + indian sex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tor in India only runs on Hurd... sex? BING!

  58. Is this a strategy by jpate · · Score: 1

    to make bing the "google that's safe for kids"?

  59. On the plus side by Com2Kid · · Score: 1

    In the US, their video search does pr0n a lot better than Google's does..

    You win some you lose some.

  60. Changing countries by Ernesto+Alvarez · · Score: 1

    In TFA (yes, I'm a heretic, I read TFA) it says that you can see how it works by changing your country to "India" in the preferences. Maybe this censorship mechanism can be avoided just by cleverly setting the preferences.

    Has anyone tried in India tried to change it to something else (like, belgium)? I'd like to know if it works.

  61. sex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > If you try to search for the term 'sex,' along with lots of variations,
    > from India using Microsoft's new search engine, an error message
    > is returned...

    It's comforting to know the standards police are cutting straight to the point and prioritizing the most important functionality first.

  62. Albert by AlbertF · · Score: 1

    There is a reason as to why Bing does such actions, and it is probably due to pornography being illegal in India and it not wanting to make any cases on it while Bing is still new.

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  63. Outsourcing by Joebert · · Score: 1

    Well duhh. Microsoft's moving their workforce to India.

    Microsoft learned their lesson with American employees browsing porn at work all day, they're just nipping the problem in the bud over in India.

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    1. Re:Outsourcing by SerenaStargazer · · Score: 1

      It doesn't change a genius to figure out how to change your location in Bing. (I'm posting from the UK, and I just switched to Bing India to check it out.) In order to prevent people in India from searching for "sex", they would have to eliminate the choice to switch to another location.

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    2. Re:Outsourcing by Joebert · · Score: 1

      Do you mean take a genius ?

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  64. Even worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In Germany, Bing refuses to search for "Strumpfhose", which is the German word for tights/pantyhose.

  65. new form of birth control ? by parallel_prankster · · Score: 0

    Maybe with a population of 1 billion and more, we dont need to search for sex. Infact, we should stop thinking about sex and start thinking about food and other things!! Or is this a new way of birth control for us ?

  66. this is MS's idea of a competitive edge: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    .
    Google for "General Audiences."

    F**k Bill Gates. Google that.
    .

  67. But I'm a cannibal... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... you insensitive clod!

  68. Recursive Acronymn by tpgp · · Score: 2, Funny

    OMG! I never noticed that before - BING is a recursive acronym. Meaning Bing Is Not Google.

    Yet another example of MS following the GNU project ;-)

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    1. Re:Recursive Acronymn by Chees0rz · · Score: 2, Funny

      Put this on Wikipedia. Now.

    2. Re:Recursive Acronymn by Ginger+Unicorn · · Score: 1

      what i find weird is that steve ballmer is a big fan of "friends" and named it after his favourite character..

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  69. Competition by bytesex · · Score: 1

    This is how companies undercut each other in countries that are ever so slightly inclined to mandate certain types of internet use. Now, India's government has every excuse (I'm not saying that they will, I'm just saying that they might be tempted to try) to mandate 'bing' over 'google' as a matter of law. Australia's recent history shows that this is not too over the top, and more than a billion people as your exclusive advertising audience is nothing the sneeze at. Just tempt the people in power. Ever so slightly.

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  70. in Germany... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... blocked too (same error message but in German Language)

  71. it is obvious by commodoresloat · · Score: 1

    If their population, and the Kama Sutra, are any indication, the cat is definitely out of the bag! Why Microsoft would choose to limit this information is beyond me...

    Well, they heard about how Apple had banned that app with the Kama Sutra on the iphone. So Microsoft, as usual, is just copying Apple once again.

  72. Ironic by mqduck · · Score: 1

    Ironically, a search for "bing" brings up nothing but porn sites. "Horny young vixen gets a hard binging".

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  73. Maybe they don't have enough population yet? by Seth+Kriticos · · Score: 1

    If people could actually acquire porn and jack of at home, they would fuck much less. This way they can't satisfy them self with jerking of the net porn and have to fuck everything with 2 legs. I derive, that they plan on taking over the world by sheer number.

  74. Bing Germany also blocks certain search terms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You cannot search for the German word of "pantyhose" (Strumpfhose).

  75. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  76. I know why now: by vchoy · · Score: 1

    No 'karma' for 'sutra'

  77. Inductive heating by forand · · Score: 1

    Will do, just make sure it is a stove which uses inductive heating. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induction_cooker#Benefits

  78. WTF? by woolio · · Score: 1

    I guess one man's porn is another man's religion....

    There are well-known Indian temples that explicitly show (with genitalia) sexual acts involving men & women, women & women, women & dogs, etc... These are revered in a religious/philosophical sense.

    So how in the world can pornography be legally banned?

    Carving in stone in religious places is fine, but ordinary picture and video is not?

    I can only guess that the law must be splitting hairs to differentiate the two. To me (as an outsider), this isn't a question of XXX-video versus medical training information... It is more like ancient XXX versus modern-day XXX.

    Seems like one could ascribe the religious/philosophical meaning behind the ancient templates to the modern day blue films and claim that the blue-films are a religious tool and not obscene...

    [But I am probably an idiot. Someone else may have a much different take on what I am describing].

  79. to comply with local laws by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    So indirectly the indian government did demand it.

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  80. Don't they have Google in India, then? by Archtech · · Score: 1

    Why on earth would anyone use bang in India anyway? (Or anywhere else for that matter).

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  81. I don't know why, but this made me think: by Tokerat · · Score: 1

    Microsoft Bing: 60% of the time, it works every time.

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  82. Microsoft and authority by kabloom · · Score: 1

    Microsoft's strategy lately has been to create a product, with the expectation that it will succeed big, but undermine it by using their product as a way to enforce the will of some authority (rightly or not) against the consumer's will.

    Remember the Zune and "Music the way it wants to be", which would enforce DRM on even freely downloaded songs when sharing them with other users? They never did figure out that "music the way you want it to be" would be a better selling point.

  83. Here's the problem.. by dbcad7 · · Score: 1

    Your suppose to use BLING to search for sex.. not bing.. sheesh !

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  84. Re:And Bing is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And yet they dominate the market and are the most successful software company on the planet. Hell they created the entire PC market.

    You can also thank them for lowering PC costs. By selling windows in such high numbers they made 'IBM Compatible' so popular w.r.t. other competing hardware standards that it ended up commoditizing the CPU, Motherboard, HDD, etc, etc market.

    I know you'll probably respond with some deluded lies, but thats OK. Microsoft really really cares what you think.... go ahead take a shot. Do the penguin dance !

  85. indian law by dredtech · · Score: 1

    As much as i'm normally all for microshaft bashing. In this case from what i've read, the problem is that under Indian law if bing returns anything even broadly suggestive, then MS gets sued and charged for "purveying or enabling". Bloody ridiculous I know, but not their fault. Easier to simply obey the laws of the country in question for them then to court MORE negative publicity or being blacklisted by the indian government, which is going to hurt market share one way or another. Besides, different culture, different rules. I'd be interested to hear what the Indian on the street thinks.

  86. Now we know the meaning of the word 'Bing" by okmijnuhb · · Score: 1

    As in; I was searching for 'microsoft sucks" and got "Binged"

  87. Good ... by KingBenny · · Score: 0

    and with these words, Bing was moved to the realm of wannabings and the extinct

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  88. Horse, bolt and stable door? by ColonelClaw · · Score: 1

    With a population of 1.15 billion and rising, I'm guessing Indians may know a thing or two about sex already

  89. Seriously by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do Indians really NEED to search for 'sex'? One would think with such a large population...

  90. Bing changes now gives results by star99 · · Score: 1

    Now the search results in bing site for sex does return results ( guys in Bing ) Read Slashdot thats great !!!!!!!!!!!