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SCO Springs a Prospective Buyer
clemenstimpler sends a link to Groklaw, which has been following the proceedings dealing with the conversion of SCO's bankruptcy to Chapter 7 (i.e., liquidating the company). SCO has announced a prospective buyer. "...SCO has suggested it has a buyer. That doesn't mean it will avoid Chapter 7 of course, nor does it mean that the bankruptcy court will OK the suggested sale. But it likely does mean more delay, which is what this is likely all about. SCO very much wants to wait until the appeals court rules in SCO v. Novell. ... Hearing set for July 16 with backup for July 27. SCO has already moved to make it July 27. combo hearing on convert and sale. Frankly, it would not totally amaze me if the three entities that filed motions to convert were to appeal this. If not, SCO got its desired delay."
They're dragging it out so we can savor it.
This article's title gave me the mental image of a decomposing zombie clawing its' way up out of the ground.
Hopefully as the article suggests, the sale will be forestalled, and some judge will finally put a stake in this monster once and for all. ;)
- With apologies to Alan Moore.
This image, http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/5233c6cac0.jpg was a little un-called for.
Richard has done quite a good job, imo. I met him once at an "overnighter" kind of rally for political refugees when we both entered this country almost at the same time. I never could quite figure-out his political views beneath all the "free software" senses that he advertised using all his "free labor" methods of devoting all that time to such strategy. It appeared effective at a fiscal scale, but not at a family one.
I must say, though Caldera was a completely different company these past years since Darryl gave direction, the true Caldera Linux lives-on in the servers that still run it. I fondly remember administering Caldera 2.2 and 2.3 using their excellent-at-the-time Novell Netware extensions for IPX disk shares and this eased integration with existing Novell-dominated environments in the civil service sections of the government institutions whose documents I helped archive and maintane with complete satisfaction. Somtimes I sit and think just what happened to such a great company, it having the only Linux distribution with DOSEMU to Caldera's DR DOS at the time as would seem the perfect replacement for a Windows For Workgroups, NT, and 95/98 installation while all the other distributions leached off it's tuned perfection.
It will sadly be missed, but still runs on my old 486 network gateway with a IPX Meridian SCSI 14-drive CDROM array.
SCO the UnDead.
But actually, this is what one should normally expect from a litigation company. The US legal system makes it easy for this sort of harassment (in this case, of Linux supporters IBM/Novell/etc) to continue virtually forever.
This is obvious. But the takeaway message is worth posting clearly... Just because you're in the Right, you cannot assume the courts will vindicate you. Once accused in civil court, you are mired for as long as the other side wants (or can afford). Don't. Get. Sued. In. The. USA. Broken System.
They're getting a bailout! The government will now own Linux.
Health Freedom is almost as popular as Freedom itself.
...would that suitor be based in Redmond, WA?
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How far do we need to follow the money to find Microsoft ?
Far out. With the current financial situation I wouldn't have thought anyone would want to part with $10 just for SCO! It must be the Chinese...
Give the judge a trench gun and be done with these pesky zombies.
I very much hope the Office of the US Trustee, IBM, Novell and others do not appeal the delay. Of course, they have excellent grounds for doing so, but the result would likely just be a longer delay. SCO has successfully gamed the system, and will probably gain a six week delay in the process. If this is appealed, it will probably take longer than six weeks just to argue and get a decision. Meanwhile, SCO will argue that the purchase agreement cannot go forward with the Chapter 7 conversion hanging over their head (BS, of course, but prove it).
Now, imagine the appeals court rules SCO has the rights to Unix! Won't that be fun!
Apple has "Mac vs PC", Microsoft has "Laptop Hunters", Linux has recession
So this is an attempt to get the remaining cash and Unix assets out of reach of Novell, and leave the shell of SCO (plus some mobile products that most likely have no value) to continue the lawsuit, with no money left over for Novell and IBM when they eventually run out of appeals.
Bullshit.
You have been conned by stupid MIT staffroom politics which has escaped onto the net. Linux is not a GNU project, the GNU operating system is called HURD. I think the whole gnu/linux thing and the LiGnuX thing before it was just a response to people asking RMS what he had done lately. He has done a lot of worthwhile things but linux was put together by others. The gnu tools are incredibly useful but make up only a small portion of most linux distributions and are not there at all in some of the embedded distributions (which use a different C library and use busybox).
There is a linux distibution called is "Debian gnu/linux", but all the packaging has been done by Debian without involvement by gnu.
It also seems you have confused GNU with the GPL and seem to think the GPL restricts commercial activity - keep in mind that not even Halliburton are afraid of it since all it really means is telling people where you got your free code from. It isn't 1995 anymore, and even then anyone that took the time to actually read the thing wouldn't have been that worried about it.
in this day and age...after the credit implosion and GM's bankruptcy..after Madoff....there's someone still stupid^H^H^H^H^H^Hbold enough to buy SCO?
Man....can someone get me his number? I've got a few dozen bridges and landmarks to sell him, not to mention a few automobiles.
It is time to die, SCO. Die in peace, but die already (and never come back)!
I understand they just need a bit more time to conclude their purchase of the Duke Nukem Forever codebase and issue a call for investors to fund completion of this vital work.
Oh, there won't be a game coming out of all this - SCO will have a pile of algorithms and methods specific to the gaming world stretching back as far as the first annoucement of DNF and so they can then start to examine games produced since that date from all the big players to see if they have 'pinched' anything.
3. Profit
AT&ROFLMAO
What if the prospective buyer is Microsoft?! Who could object to that, and on what grounds?!
Scary.
That MS funds *both* SCO and Novel
I wonder if SCO told their buyer that Linux (all of it) is part of the sale? They probably said "yea, this guy with a blue blanket and a red and black striped shirt who calls himself Linus is gonna try to tell you that Linux isn't ours to sell, yea, just ignore him".
Why lie when you can just make up stuff and claim it to be true?
There is no indication that the decision of the appeals court will occur in the next six weeks. SCO is stalling because that is the tactic they've adopted from the very first "suitcase of proof" and "millions of lines of code" and "MIT deep-divers."
FUD works when it lasts for a very long time, not when it's immediately dispelled.
E
One hop :
http://www.infoworld.com/t/platforms/sco-strikes-gold-verizon-just-strikes-728
Microsoft bought $6 million of "licenses" to SCO in 2003.
The Wise adapts himself to the world. The Fool adapts the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the Fool.
I'm not dead! I feel fine! I think I'll go for a walk! I'm getting better! ..
Honestly, its like the monster that will not die, nothing works - garlic, holy water, silver bullets, stake, decapitation, fire and even the BFG9000 could not finish it.
Just stay down, everybody will be much happier and we are all waiting for the party.
Notwithstanding the foregoing, the Assets to be so purchased shall not include those assets (the "Excluded Assetsâ) set forth on Schedule 1.1(b)
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so my relatively new theory is that "excluded assets" would include patents, all trademarks that aren't UNIX and UnixWare, and all copyrights (in my 50/50 preponderance of the evidence opinion (that aren't UNIX and UnixWare copyrights - or at some point turn out to not be UNIX or UnixWare copyrights).
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I almost bought SCO. But I spent the $10 at McDonalds instead.
"He's like a blind old, incontinent sheep dog. Take him out to the barn with your shotgun and blow the mutha away! It's the kindest thing!"
Darl, just STFU. Everybody knows you're full of it.
The court has already ruled that the asset sheet doesn't say what you're claiming it does. Just go away.
I don't really think there is any serious buyer. Previously SCO tried to launch an emergency sale to York management only to have the bankruptcy court and all its creditors object to the deal. What SCO never made clear (or tried to hide) in that deal was who would get the liabilities from the Novell judgment against them. If the sale had gone through, Novell would have had to spend years figuring out who owed them the money. This is just another ploy to stall for time.
Well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in it.
If this keeps up, we'll have to add SCO to the nuclear attack survivor list currently including cockroaches and Cher.
"You can't really dust for vomit" --Nigel Tufnel
Hang on.
So they lied about linux containing unix code.
Then they lied about owning full unix rights.
Then they lied constantly about their ability to handle it in court.
Then they lied to the court by using stalling tactics pretending they needed information.
Maybe they're lying? You know, flat-out, bald faced shameless lying? They're already so badly in trouble in the courts, what's one more lie if it helps stave off death a bit longer?
It's been a long time.
your next general release of SCO Unix will run on the Mattel Aquarius and Coleco Adam only. please to transfer your databases to cassette tape.
if this is supposed to be a new economy, how come they still want my old fashioned money?
Why the hell does the American leagal system just stop fingering their collective fannys and kill this bunch of ambiguos twats off once and for all end dead terminated you will NOT be back this is now getting a little tiring a few months yes but years do me a favour hello are you awake F**K them off will ya be done with it
Sheessh
This is 4th "prospective buyer" in 19 months
Whenever scox's bankruptcy comes to trial, scox tells the judge about some mysterious prospective buyer, and scox gets another delay. Scox has been playing this game for nearly two years, and there is no end in sight. Of course, the dubious buyouts never materializes.
Either the judge falls for the same trick every time, or there is corruption involved. Considering that msft has been behind the scox-scam every step of the way since the beginning of the scam (over six years ago), the possibility of corruption is real. After all, msft is the company that admitted to bribing public officials in the OOXML scam.
Just another case of msft backed corruption?
This is 4th "prospective buyer" in 19 months
Whenever scox's bankruptcy comes to trial, scox tells the judge about some mysterious prospective buyer, and scox gets another delay. Scox has been playing this game for nearly two years, and there is no end in sight. Of course, the dubious buyouts never materializes.
Either the judge falls for the same trick every time, or there is corruption involved. Considering that msft has been behind the scox-scam every step of the way since the beginning of the scam (over six years ago), the possibility of corruption is real. After all, msft is the company that admitted to bribing public officials in the OOXML scam.
Anyway, the suitor has been announced: Gulf Capital Partners. Which raises the question: is there a Microsoft connection to these guys? The only company with any discernible reason to keep Sweet Zombie SCO alive is Microsoft.
I have answered my question: yes there is a definite MS connection. "The issue is not if you're paranoid, it's if you are paranoid enough." -- Max, "Strange Days"
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Maybe its like those crappy telephone "bait and switch" scams and somebody just thought they were just buying "Naughty Nurses" porn.
Suddenly instead of a DVD of said "Naughty Nurses" they suddenly open a box full of SCO stock.
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That post never exclaimed to be a GNU project. Linux was borne in concept on the flowcharts expanded to pseudocode long before it was ever posted on a message board or BBS. Consider the fact that o' Lineus retains the controlling interest in all of those periphernalia and effects and then conditionaly granted its use through GPL. It looks like Linux was always under his control at the beginning, and for those of us that think that is condescending then we must first realize that absolute control begot those conditions to its conditional liberation and restricted to said freedoms until another day comes that Linus with his companyions decide to rescind. GPL is not free, and "Free" from Free Software by RMS is a proprietary notion of doublespeak. Apogee is more free than Richard S's "Free Software" compaction in our minds; materialy so, but not logically endowed as a public-domain release. You see, RMS is trying to bring his doublespeak into a backwards society of kings that behave like slaves to one-another. Rather than dispel the myths and acknowledge that every branch grafted onto that Linux kernel to it's rightful king, RMS continues the ploy through GPL that completely skews the interpretation of it as "copyleft." Whatever machinery looks to uphold that license, it is tainted in such a way that RMS is trying to pre-empt the rights of the owners to rent it from the creator, yet that is all I can say about that.
You are realy behaving silly in this manner you've exposed your approach onto this subject. There is a fiscal matter being accounted that RMS is trying to dispel, as though the author is in receivership to a bankrupty that prevents himself from unaccounting his works to such a thing as Linux. Why can't an author relieve himself of these properties to contribute to this effort, or is he not in liberty and freedom himself? Stalman's phylosophies only throw gas on the fire in this regard, and in the end none benefit because it draws a proprietary manner outside of the Public just to call "Free Software" as not being free, but with restrictions.
You got to be joking if GPL and LGPL means otherwise. You and everyone else is on "the clock", their time is worth money to someone else at all times and here comes the delusion to avert from the effort to relieve themselves of this miserable state of work ethic with an alleged "Free Software" GPL'd from another alphabet corporation that is just waiting to be seized by SEC for conversion and accounting fraud. Great. Lovely... I'll remind you that the creators of Unix back in ATT (prior to AT&T) are using Microsoft Windows NT of some flavor to this day. Don't you think you are missing somthing about the population you're trying to touch?
Next thing you know, RMS will have a unique DRM key to sign all "Free Software" so it wouldn't run on GNU operating systems without the GPL key. Great. Lovely... Despite wherever the software goes, on the paper we still 'have and own NOTHING because of the encumbrances of our nationalities going back into whatever country we are from. If we want to change this, the best abbet would be to write software on a micronation benched upon an oceanic Well stage or interfaced to a international vessel that does not make berth to a port of entry on land, or a ship independent from the plane or planet it unhails from. Yet, whoever holds the bench to negotiate a dispute, he is sovereign; why would a developer dare unconditionally submit to such foreign standard of authority for adjustments that could lead to abandonmnet or change in direction?
Welcome back to Linux island. That's all we need. :-)
Try actually reading the GPL, it's actually fairly simple.
However remember that RMS had nothing whatsoever to do with the development of linux apart from writing a licence that Linus liked. All the wailing about gcc by those that want to shove the gnu/linux label down people's throats is irrelevant since if gcc was not there another compiler would have been used. I was replying to the above bullshit that RMS owns linux, not about the other things you have there and although I cannot actually understand a large portion of it you have certainly written a large amount of text. While there are a large number of impressively long words their meaning doesn't fit in context so I suggest using shorter and simpler sentences until you have a better understanding of English. I have the advantage of English as a first language but would still not use such a style. Mark Twain wrote "If I Had More Time I Would Write a Shorter Letter" and it's a good principle to keep in mind even with technical writing. If you have a firm understanding of English and use such a deliberately florid style as a joke homage to barely remembered 19th century fiction please play it on someone else because it just comes out as an unreadable pile of crap full of words that do nothing but waste the time of the reader - and God's sake read something better to inspire you. The only place I've seen a style like that work is in Brian Aldiss' "Barefoot in the Head" but only because the point was that the reader was not meant to understand and to be as confused by the text as if they had a drug addled brain.
I hope it wasn't from when I said, 'I'd give them a dollar', here on slashdot, because I was only joking!!!!
Why do you think that bankruptcy court will not OK the suggested sale?
i mean is there any clear logic behind your prediction?
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