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Montana City Requires Workers' Internet Accounts

justinlindh writes "Bozeman, Montana is now requiring all applicants for city jobs to furnish Internet account information for 'background checking.' A portion of the application reads, "Please list any and all, current personal or business websites, web pages or memberships on any Internet-based chat rooms, social clubs or forums, to include, but not limited to: Facebook, Google, Yahoo, YouTube.com, MySpace, etc.' The article goes on to mention, 'There are then three lines where applicants can list the Web sites, their user names and log-in information and their passwords.'"

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  1. WTF by Jaysyn · · Score: 5, Funny

    They are seriously asking for people's passwords? If this some kinda of social engineering test where if you actually put them down you fail?

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    1. Re:WTF by e9th · · Score: 5, Funny

      The ad is actually for positions in their sister city, Bozeman, Nigeria.

    2. Re:WTF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Or:

      1. Head to Bozeman
      2. Social engineer city employees (I hear they're all "easy")
      3. Own the network
      4. Profit!!!

    3. Re:WTF by oldspewey · · Score: 5, Funny

      I don't even know how to put my objections into words - I don't know where to start!

      Start on Slashdot ... that's what the rest of us do.

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    4. Re:WTF by 1800maxim · · Score: 3, Funny

      The vast majority of us also end on slashdot, you incensitive clod!

    5. Re:WTF by suso · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hey, that's the combination to my luggage!

    6. Re:WTF by Lavene · · Score: 5, Funny

      no problem, my password is hunter2

      (I know I know... redundant... but still absurdly funny)

    7. Re:WTF by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm insensitive not incensitive, you insensitive clod!

    8. Re:WTF by kylben · · Score: 3, Funny
      Legal issues are very black and white, very binary. If the criterion is "all", and "all" is invalidated - even by one exception - then the whole proposition is out. "Any" by itself leaves "all" as optional. "All that apply" is what "any and all" means in legalese, except that "that apply" is not left to your own interpretation, but instead means something like "all that are not barred by superseding legal restrictions or obligations". They could use that phrase, but using "any and all", which phrases it as a positive obligation, instead shifts the burden on you to prove that something is barred, instead of them to prove that something isn't. All of this hyper-parsed language is, of course, just a substitute for honest communication. It is, in fact, intended to avoid communication and understanding, while at the same time locking in the consequences as tightly as possible.

      BTW, IANAL, and I am making this all up as I go along. I bet its pretty close to correct. Of course, any and all of it could be flat out wrong.

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  2. My Klingon Keyboard by iron-kurton · · Score: 5, Funny

    I just told them that even if I wrote down passwords, they are all written in Klingon and are only usable on Klingon keyboards, so they would be of no use to them. I was hired on the spot.

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  3. Sorry, we are going to have to let you go. by Tilzs · · Score: 5, Funny

    It has come to our attention that you lied or omitted information on your employment application. We have found out that you neglected to mention that you registered at creative.com 8 years ago to download some drivers and 3 years ago at dvorak.org/blog when you posted "get of my lawn".

  4. also... by bcrowell · · Score: 4, Funny

    Further instructions on the form:

    16d. Please analyze your own handwriting for us, and supply a full report on whether the results show that you may be predisposed to workplace violence.

    16e. Please build your own polygraph machine, administer the test to yourself, and let us know whether it turns up any proclivity for white collar crime.

  5. Re:Passwords? by Morlark · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ah, but it's perfectly safe. When you write your password out on the application form it comes out as ******!

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  6. Re:Unpopular by Red+Flayer · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's as big a landslide as it gets, folks.

    Well, technically, no. It could be 99% [1].

    I mean, I get your point, but on a site filled with pedants, most of them highly attuned to mathematics, perhaps that wasn't the best choice of words.

    [1] 99% is as big a landslide as it gets. 100% would mean the land was falling, not sliding. Assuming that the percentage in a landslide victory correlates to the slope of the surface the land is sliding along.

    Oh crap... I've opened the door for the pedants to tar and feather me as well, haven't I?

    *exchanges tinfoil suit for flame-retardant suit*

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  7. Re:Unpopular by alexlm · · Score: 4, Funny

    How are there even 2% that don't consider it an invasion of privacy?

  8. Slashdot Account by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 4, Funny

    User: Anonymous Coward
    Password:FAH-Q

    1. Re:Slashdot Account by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Ah fucking god damnit! You bastard, gave away my account information!

  9. Re:Give away your password... by NovaHorizon · · Score: 4, Funny

    I have trouble envisioning a piece of paper large enough for all of my login accounts, let alone 3 lines. And I hope they understand when I just give 5 passwords at the top and tell them to keep trying for each site cause I don't remember which password goes with which account :|

  10. Re:Broad brush strokes by Beezlebub33 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Almost makes me want to apply so I can down my alt.com and bmezine.com usernames and passwords. If nothing else, it will be enlightening for city employees who get to review it. :-)

    And then I'd be rich when they refuse my application because of it and I sue their asses off.

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  11. Re:Um, No by cashman73 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Anonymous Coward might still have a shot, since s/he does not have a username or password to disclose,... ;-)

  12. Re:What else? by iamhigh · · Score: 5, Funny

    Maybe my bank access info?

    Keys to my house?

    Maybe a beaver shot of my wife?

    No. No. Yes, please.

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  13. Re:Passwords? by spydabyte · · Score: 5, Funny

    Obligatory bash quote: http://www.bash.org/?244321

  14. Re:Unpopular by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny
    Actually, per the density the real numbers, there is no "biggest" landslide, values, since, if $x<1$, $(x+1)/2$ will still be less than unity, but also be larger than $x$. To quote a wise man (I assume; if not please allow me to buy you a drink to make it up to you),

    I mean, I get your point, but on a site filled with pedants, most of them highly attuned to mathematics, perhaps that wasn't the best choice of words.

  15. Re:What else? by swb · · Score: 5, Funny

    You might want to check my bank balance and a pic of my wife before you make that decision.

  16. Re:wait, Bozeman Montana... by Kuukai · · Score: 3, Funny

    Clearly the Ferengi secretly beat them.

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  17. Re:What else? by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 3, Funny

    That would be really tough, especially getting the beaver to hold the camera and take a picture of your wife.

  18. Re:Unpopular by Red+Flayer · · Score: 5, Funny

    D'oh.

    Apparently, the third rule is that vikings don't have to close html tags.

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  19. Re:City jobs are a bad thing? by c6gunner · · Score: 3, Funny

    When the choice is, 'work for me (or someone else rich like me) or starve,' then that is coercion

    Very true. Isn't it great, therefore, that we have so many other choices?

    In an anarcho-capitalist system, non-owners are at the mercy of resource owners.

    It depends on the availability of resources, of course. However, in any capitalist market "non-owners" have the opportunity to acquire resources, thereby creating new choices. The only ones who seem to have a problem with that are those who are unable or unwilling to be productive.

  20. Re:Um, No by idontgno · · Score: 3, Funny

    OTOH, once City of Bozeman's HR department looks at Mr. Coward's posting history here (GNAA trolls, tubgirl and goatse, etc.), they won't be able to refuse to hire him fast enough.

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  21. Re:Unpopular by Red+Flayer · · Score: 5, Funny

    Of course Vikings care about significant digits. Typically it requires four digits on each hand to grip a two-handed battle axe effectively. So I can lose one digit from each hand, no worries, as long as it wasn't a thumb -- I'll still be drinking mead from a skraeling's skull.

    But if I lose any more than that...

    See, significant digits fully explained by a Viking. What is it with you people, thinking Vikings don't have or need an understanding of the finer principles of mathematics as relating to raping and pillaging?

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  22. Priceless typo "Green Card"="Greed Card" by alextheseal · · Score: 3, Funny

    Priceless typo on their page "Employment Process Policy" http://www.bozeman.net/bozeman/humanResource/processPolicy.aspx, "Alien Registration Receipt Card (Greed Card)"

  23. Re:City jobs are a bad thing? by Xtifr · · Score: 4, Funny

    What? How dare you undermine my devout, fanatical, unthinking believe in the absolute superiority of the free market (which I define as any market so unregulated as to allow massive corruption, monopoly abuse, and the utter destruction of anything that could properly be called a "free market") with something as vacuous as facts?! The Libertarian Inquisition will see you burned at the stake, blasphemer!

  24. Re:Unpopular by Red+Flayer · · Score: 3, Funny

    Technically, wouldn't you be drinking wine from a skraeling's skull since the skraelings were found in Vinland?

    I'm a Viking. I have a longship, and skraeling slaves to man the oars. Conceivably, I went to Vinland, raped and pillaged and whatnot among the skraelings, then returned to Vikingland to quaff mead from skraeling skulls collected in Vinland.

    And it's still my universe, so I'll call it Vikingland if I so choose.

    Besides which, rule four is that the alcoholic beverage of choice is mead, independent of location.

    To sum up:

    Rule 1: I get to be a viking.
    Rule 2: Everyone else gets to be a skraeling.
    Rule 3: Vikings don't have to close HTML tags.
    Rule 4: Mead is the alcoholic beverage of choice regardless of location
    And now, for rule 5: Any theoretical objections to the logic of the rules, or the ways things work in my universe, are hereby declared anathema. Any skraeling who voices those objections will have his eyeballs plucked and mounted on that little pointy bit on the top of my battle axe, then he will be tossed in the air where I, and my household slaves, will fight to catch him upon our spears. Winner gets the privilege of raping and pillaging the corpse.

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