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Google Apps Leave Beta

Today Google announced that they're removing the "beta" label from Gmail, Google Calendar, Google Docs and Google Talk. They said, "We've come to appreciate that the beta tag just doesn't fit for large enterprises that aren't keen to run their business on software that sounds like it's still in the trial phase." Quoting the NYTimes: "'Obviously we haven't had a consistent set of policies or definitions around beta,' said Matt Glotzbach, a director of product management at Google. Mr. Glotzbach said that different teams at Google had different criteria for what beta meant, and that Google felt a need to standardize those. ... Practically speaking, the change will mean precious little to Gmail's millions of users. But it could help Google's efforts to get the paid version of its package of applications, which includes Gmail, Calendar, Docs and other products, adopted inside big companies."

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  1. Today is a good day by SilverHatHacker · · Score: 5, Interesting

    So many things today I didn't see coming!
    -We finally get a straight answer from Microsoft on C#, in favour of OSS
    -Russia and the US agree to disarm
    -Microsoft admits there's a security flaw in ActiveX
    -VLC reaches 1.0
    -Google's stuff gets out of Beta
    Either I need to pay more attention, or drop my cynicism. I guess I kind of expected them to happen, just not for a while yet.

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    1. Re:Today is a good day by ratnerstar · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah, and I didn't even have to use my AK!

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    2. Re:Today is a good day by SilverHatHacker · · Score: 5, Funny

      I expect GNU Hurd by the end of the week.

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  2. Re:Beta by bemymonkey · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wasn't the paid version non-beta all along?

    IIRC only the free versions were marked beta...

  3. Nooooo! by bomanbot · · Score: 4, Funny

    This is just great. Google Mail is finally out of Beta. Duke Nukem Forever is cancelled. If finally there is a year of Linux on the Desktop, only an unfinished GNU Hurd stands between us and the Apocalypse... ;-)

  4. Re:wtf by gnick · · Score: 4, Funny

    They have always had a definition.

    The problem was that it was just a beta version. They'll be unveiling the 'Release' definition shortly.

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  5. Re:wtf by nine-times · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That's a good question, but if you think about it, it's pretty understandable. If you remember, Gmail used to by an invite-only thing that they were testing. When each of these services were first introduced, they were unstable (both in terms of reliability and the unpredictability of changes) enough to warrant the "beta" tag.

    So they probably had a vague and intuitive notion of what "beta" meant to them. However, if you don't have a clear and specific definition of "beta", then there will never be a moment when it clearly makes sense to drop the label.

  6. 100 million by necro81 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Gmail has 100 million users and has been around over five years. Apps has 1.75 million. So, yes, about damn time.

  7. For those of you disappointed by this announcement by grantham · · Score: 5, Funny

    They've give you the option to put your own version of Gmail back into beta, you know, if you're into that sort of thing:
    http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/gmail-leaves-beta-launches-back-to-beta.html

  8. Re:Beta by eldaria · · Score: 4, Informative

    I have used the premium Google apps for a little over a year, and only today the logo had the beta label removed, I were actually reading about it on Engadget, flipped to the tab with my mail and saw that it had beta on the logo, refreshed the page and the beta label was gone.

  9. The good news: Google apps are all out of beta! by sootman · · Score: 5, Funny

    The bad news: they're all entering 'Gamma'

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  10. Re:Beta by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    >Wasn't the paid version non-beta all along?

    Yeah, and it's reliable. There's really no reason for small and medium businesses to run their own mail servers anymore.

  11. Re:Beta by MyLongNickName · · Score: 4, Funny

    Thanks for sharing your opinion, Sergey.

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  12. Simple Marketing by malevolentjelly · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Calling Google Apps "Beta" was likely a pragmatic move on the front of both marketing to bleeding edge internet enthusiasts who are addicted to novelty and engineering in limiting the expectations and liability of google products. They could maintain beta quality products and code and levels of support as long as they kept the beta moniker.

    However, I feel that the web's incestuous advertising scheme is beginning to dry up in these times of economic peril, so google needs to go for harder sources of money, like enterprises. Now they're no longer circumventing Microsoft in the market but facing them head to head for a position in the enterprise. Microsoft has as strong position in this market, so they have a certain legacy and stability, which enterprises appreciate.

    The first step for Google in combating this will be the simple rebranding of their products to give the semblance of maturity. In reality, any recent changes to the code are minimal to superficial, so this is merely a marketing maneuver and says nothing about the practical roles of beta and gold software in software engineering. It's a welcome change, but it is yet to be seen whether google has the attention span to maintain stable enterprise products. Offering a consistent platform will also open them up to the sort of demonization that Microsoft has faced up until now, as expectations may rise above what they can deliver.

    In short, Google is growing up.

  13. Re:Some say that the freebie version will end, too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is not true. From the Google official blog:

    We've heard some questions about why the link to Google Apps Standard Edition disappeared from the Enterprise Apps home page, so we wanted to share the answer. As we explored a few design changes to the page, the link to Standard Edition was inadvertently dropped, although the free version of Apps was, as always, available here. We've put the link back where it belongs so that it's easy to find.

    We have no intention of eliminating Standard Edition, and we apologize for any confusion.