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Ridley Scott Directing Alien Prequel

brumgrunt writes "After three decades of speculation, original Alien director Ridley Scott has signed on to the new Fox sequel. 'Nothing is known about the set-up of the new movie, except that chronologically it precedes the plight of the Nostromo. Since it's obviously going to involve the human race [...] Writer Jon Spaihts successfully pitched to Fox and Scott Free Productions, and is working on the script.'"

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  1. oblig. by somecreepyoldguy · · Score: 3, Funny

    they mostly come at night... mostly

    1. Re:oblig. by mfnickster · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's a pity that they don't come out at night and tear Ridley Scott in twain.
      ...
      I respect what he did in Alien, but his recent works are the biggest loads of shite around. I wish he'd left the Alien series well enough alone.

      You're kidding, right? You do know that after the first film, Ridley had nothing to do with the Alien series?

      I'll hazard a guess that the movie will be yet another ad for America's army. There will be strategic deaths to ensure that the soldiers want revenge, but all in all they'll survive because they're so fucking good.

      Um... are you referring to Black Hawk Down, in which the people who died/survived in the film are the ones who died/survived in real life?

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  2. Who cares about the humans by stox · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I want the story of the ship the Nostromo found.

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    1. Re:Who cares about the humans by TinBromide · · Score: 3, Informative

      aliens attack, everybody dies.

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    2. Re:Who cares about the humans by Scragglykat · · Score: 3, Funny

      I heard they were going to do that, but they couldn't get Rosanne Barr to play the lead roll.

    3. Re:Who cares about the humans by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The Nostromo was diverted to the planet where they found the Xenomorph because someone in the company knew it was there. How they knew has not been explained in the films, to date. Presumably there was some prior contact that was covered up. The AvP series showed how the company could know that the aliens existed, but no reason to know where they could be found.

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    4. Re:Who cares about the humans by JasonBee · · Score: 3, Funny

      if it was a vision should you not have jabbed out your visual cortex instead?

    5. Re:Who cares about the humans by FreekyGeek · · Score: 5, Informative

      As the owner of a couple cats, I can say that the easiest way to find any cat in the dark is to simply walk around until they run in front of you, and you either step on them or trip on them.

    6. Re:Who cares about the humans by FourthAge · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This.

      In the Alien franchise, only one character matters. It is big, black and has acid for blood.

      There is no need to look for a way to bring Ripley into it, especially if it involves time travel, memory loss, or cloning again.

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    7. Re:Who cares about the humans by vux984 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The Nostromo was diverted to the planet where they found the Xenomorph because someone in the company knew it was there. How they knew has not been explained in the films, to date. Presumably there was some prior contact that was covered up. The AvP series showed how the company could know that the aliens existed, but no reason to know where they could be found.

      There are few options:

      One: the company didn't know about the alien beacon in advance, and the whole android with recovery orders and crew expendable stuff was just standing standard procedure, in case they got lucky. Its plausible I think, but means there can be no prequel.

      Two: The company knew the aliens existed by previously merely detecting/analyzing the beacon, then they might divert the Nostromo with the intention of picking whatever they find up. It would make sense, even to the subterfuge of planting Ash with extra orders to recover it, and diverting the ship so it picks up the beacon forcing the crew to respond (per their contract to respond to distress calls) allowing the company to get a 'free expedition' out the crew.

      That all works, but would make a boring prequel movie. Some remote station or passing ship detect an alien beacon, and don't investigate it.

      Three: The company knew the aliens existed, previously investigated, and had already lost an expedition trying to recover it, perhaps they got some reports and know something about the aliens, perhaps they got nothing at all... the expedition just vanished without a trace. Either way it doesn't follow that they'd divert a fully loaded and ridiculously expensive refinery ship to the planet for a 2nd attempt.

      That would be like Spain deliberately diverting a fully loaded treasure ship to investigate a new island where a previous expedition had already been lost. I just don't see it happening. The Nostromo was ridiculously valuable; they might gamble it on it on an expedition where no real exceptional risks could be assessed, but it just doesn't make sense to gamble an expensive treasure ship, with an unqualified crew -- if they already knew that they'd lost an expedition.

    8. Re:Who cares about the humans by Gospodin · · Score: 4, Funny

      It is big, black and has acid for blood.

      Dude! How can we get Samuel L. Jackson involved? ("I am so m-f'ing sick of these m-f'ing aliens on this m-f'ing spaceship!")

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    9. Re:Who cares about the humans by Thaelon · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Except everything but for the eggs in stasis. How did that happen?

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  3. Great! by millia · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Now just sign up James Cameron to do the movie after *that* and we'll be good.

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    1. Re:Great! by deft · · Score: 5, Informative

      amen to that. 1979's 'alien' is good, but the 1986 'aliens' is what made my heart thump and want to be a space marine.

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    2. Re:Great! by Tumbleweed · · Score: 4, Funny

      What do you mean, "*They* cut the power"? How could they cut the power, man? They're animals!

      I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

    3. Re:Great! by Scragglykat · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The action/sci-fi (syfy?WTF?!) movie that James Cameron created, I have to admit, is about my favorite sci-fi movie of all time, it was non-stop, suspenseful, but action packed... they couldn't go with all suspense because we all already knew what was coming, just not in what quantity... but the original movie was horror/sci-fi at its finest (especially given the time it was created). I mean, if they remade that movie with today's special effects, it'd be amazing... but only the youth that hadn't seen the series would really get the full scare factor out of it. The thing is, people of the 70's didn't have aliens popping out of their neighbor's chests everyday, so when they saw that movie, it was disturbing... then the monster grew up quick and started killing old school... it was like when Doom 3 first came out and even though it was just a game, I'd jump when things popped out because i wasn't quite sure what would lurk around the next corner. By the time Aliens came out, chest popping aliens were the norm, so they had to make it an action flick to keep the interest going. Alien was a masterpiece, because it was horror defined. It wasn't some crazy person hacking people up, it was something totally unknown, moving around an environment we weren't familiar with, in a location where no help could be found. Aliens was a masterpiece, because it took that same mix, threw in space marines (who started out with the general attitude military units in space always have in movies) and then the situation deteriorated rapidly. There was still suspense, but there was also a lot of plot and character development. Shoot, they barely show Frost getting waxed, and I already missed him... and the sarge! I have a feeling a prequel may try to explain why the Nostromo was sent to LV-426 in the first place.

    4. Re:Great! by Ephemeriis · · Score: 3, Insightful

      amen to that. 1979's 'alien' is good, but the 1986 'aliens' is what made my heart thump and want to be a space marine.

      GAME OVER MAN! GAME OVER!

      They're almost two entirely different genres...

      I love both movies, but comparing them just isn't fair.

      Alien is tense, claustrophobic, suspenseful... You've got a single creature stalking and killing the crew of the ship, one by one. It's more of a traditional stalker/slasher movie in that respect.

      Aliens is fast-paced, action-filled, loud, intense... Piles of aliens popping out of corners, getting mowed down, ripping people apart. Despite the fact that some of it is downright terrifying, it's more of an action movie than a horror film.

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    5. Re:Great! by SirGarlon · · Score: 4, Funny

      is what made my heart thump and want to be a space marine

      All the space marines in that movie died. Do you still want to be one? Me, I'd rather be a little girl.

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    6. Re:Great! by sherpajohn · · Score: 3, Funny

      Is this going to be a stand-up film, sir, or another bug hunt?

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  4. Is AVP/AVPR canon? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Is "Alien vs. Predator" and "Alien vs. Predator: Requiem" part of the canon? Will it be for this prequel?

    1. Re:Is AVP/AVPR canon? by thisnamestoolong · · Score: 4, Funny

      One would hope not -- those movies were worse than AIDS.

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    2. Re:Is AVP/AVPR canon? by Dogtanian · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Is "Alien vs. Predator" and "Alien vs. Predator: Requiem" part of the canon? Will it be for this prequel?

      I was going to ask the same thing. I've not seen it, and have no real desire to do so, but according to Wikipedia, Alien vs. Predator was intentionally a prequel to Alien (and a sequel to Predator) and deliberately took some effort- and altered its own setting- to avoid a situation where the events in Alien would be rendered implausible if not impossible. (Primarily, they couldn't set it in a city because everyone would then have been aware of the existence of the aliens before Alien took place).

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  5. Yeah, may not be so great. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    IMDB currently lists him having FOURTEEN projects "in development". So either he spends barely any time at all on any of them (and they all suck) or this movie will not come out until sometime in the 2020's (and we will all be dead from swine flu).

  6. Re:Swell... by schon · · Score: 4, Funny

    At least I had a few years without Xenomorphs showing up in my nightmare.

    (IIRC, the nightmares involved having a pulse rifle that ran out of ammo.)

    Funny, I would have thought the most recent ones would have involved Jean-Pierre Jeunet directing another movie. :)

  7. Pilot / Space Jockey by mugnyte · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I sure hope they throw a bit at the Pilot/Space Jockey subplot.

    There's lots already proposed for that item's existence in the story, and I'd be happy with almost any of them.

  8. Re:Swell... by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 5, Funny

    At least I had a few years without Xenomorphs showing up in my nightmare.

    (IIRC, the nightmares involved having a pulse rifle that ran out of ammo.)

    Funny, I would have thought the most recent ones would have involved Jean-Pierre Jeunet directing another movie. :)

    Why do you think my clip was empty???

  9. Story Should Make Sense by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 3, Funny

    This story should make sense because the original story directly implied prior knowledge of the Alien organism prior to its "discovery" in the movie--although why anyone thought it needed "protecting" is beyond me. It always seemed quite capable of protecting itself.

    Best alien joke: The cartoon of the Imperial Storm Trooper with a face-grabber on its face saying, "I hate being the one to have to walk Lord Darth Vader's pet."

    And yes, after seeing the original Alien in an evening movie showing without knowing what it was really about ahead of time, I left the bathroom light on that night afterwards just in case. I'm sure I wasn't the only one.

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  10. ummm by nomadic · · Score: 4, Funny

    Since it's obviously going to involve the human race [...] Writer Jon Spaihts successfully pitched to Fox

    So...it was successfully pitched to Fox because...it will involve the human race? Only Fox greenlights movies involving humans? Or do they always greenlight movies involving humans?

  11. Re:Swell... by Nos. · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've been prepping my sons (3.5 years and 7 months) for their first viewing of Alien/Aliens since birth by grabbing their entire face with my hand. They think its funny... at least for now.

  12. Opening for more Giger? by mugnyte · · Score: 3, Insightful

    While his style is well-known, there is possibly still something more to ask of him that would tie the movies together outside of any simple plotline.

      If he could be commissioned for something new, using some of the erotic or torture pieces as a haunting/dream-like "infection" plot device, he might be able to really breath some new visual life into the series.

      Giger was given ample room to express himself in the original, but sadly was not credited as much as he should have been for the derivative works of the monsters. This could be a great way to welcome him back, although I've read that he can be a bit eccentric to work with (The Ghost Train ordeal).

    1. Re:Opening for more Giger? by east+coast · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Actually, Giger did more work for the first one where one of the early concepts (from the Criterion laser disc edition) was to show that the Alien was actually a progressive species with a written language and culture. It would be great to show that side of the Alien. Instead of having these dumb feral beasts we could see a society of them. There would be a million possibilities with that story line and one that was obviously considered at one point.

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    2. Re:Opening for more Giger? by ArsonSmith · · Score: 4, Insightful

      this sounds great. Maybe make it something like the Star Wars Christmas special except replace the Wookies with Aliens.

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  13. Re:Swell... by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've been prepping my sons (3.5 years and 7 months) for their first viewing of Alien/Aliens since birth by grabbing their entire face with my hand. They think its funny... at least for now.

    I hope you're done having kids. Because if you ever explain that that the baby will come out of mommy's belly...

  14. Re:Meh, Alien was your basic horror movie by Rick+Genter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You seem to forget that Alien predated Friday the 13th, A Nightmare on Elm Street, and most of the other "classic horror" movies:

    Alien (1979)
    Friday the 13th (1980)
    A Nightmare on Elm Street (1984)

    Only Halloween (1978) predates Alien, and by a short enough period that I think it's safe to say that Alien was well underway before Halloween hit the theater.

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  15. as perhaps a related story by circletimessquare · · Score: 3, Interesting

    robert rodriguez is producing a new predator movie, called predators (like alien is to aliens?). perhaps on the predator home planet, again, completely ignoring the whole avp bullshit

    http://www.aintitcool.com/node/40865

    http://www.aintitcool.com/node/40879

    additionally, the director will be some hotshot hungarian horror director named nimrod antal. aintitcool had an interveiw with rodriguez about the project:

    http://www.aintitcool.com/node/41590

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  16. additionally by circletimessquare · · Score: 3, Funny

    to find a dog, you merely open the closest door, and it will inevitably smack and disturb a sleeping dog

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  17. Re:Prequel by mcsqueak · · Score: 3, Funny

    If this is a prequel, it will have to be about the egg of that first alien before it hatched.

    What came first, the alien or the egg?

  18. nobody should worry by circletimessquare · · Score: 4, Funny

    i have an inside track on the ideas they are basing the prequel on, and it harkens back to classic themes in shockingly new and original ways, not at all feeling like some high school sophomore clicked around a bit on wikipedia and retread tired, stale ideas

    for example, the story of the alien in the prequel will revolve around important rules that one should never break, which of course get inevitably broken:

    1. don't get the alien wet, or it immediately reproduces more of its kind asexually by budding from its back
    3. keep the alien away from bright lights... especially sunlight. this will kill it
    4. and don't ever feed the alien after midnight

    i think this is a brilliant and entirely original idea

    furthermore, the movie will start with a crashed ship full of religious pilgrims, a stowaway, a dangerous criminal, etc. the alien hunts them all down relentlessly one by one whenever the planet falls into eclipse and darkness. but the fearless criminal has special surgically altered eyes that allows him to see in pitch black, so he turns the tables and hunts the alien instead

    again, a brilliant and entirely original idea from hollywood for the alien prequel!

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  19. Re:Swell... by jollyreaper · · Score: 4, Funny

    I hope you're done having kids. Because if you ever explain that that the baby will come out of mommy's belly...

    Shit, my sister and I were both c-sections and the scar was ginormous. Being a Christian household, we weren't told that much about the birds and the bees but I did happen to see Alien one night when trying to catch a rerun of Fraggle Rock on HBO late at night and put two and two together... Gave me creepy visions of my little baby sister bursting out of the tummy, all blood and gnashing teeth.

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  20. only on slashdot by circletimessquare · · Score: 3, Funny

    is a comment like this modded as insightful rather than funny

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  21. Beyond the Alien by BranMan · · Score: 5, Insightful


          You know, I loved the first two movies, and would have liked the series to progress as it seemed it should - 3 would have the Alien actually brought back to a space station around Earth, then 4 could be them getting TO Earth.

          But the point I wanted to make is that the next sequel should have someone stumble on the Alien's home planet - where they originally are from. Think about it - they are communal, live in a colony and can build a new one with a single individual, like some of our insects. They cooperate, can withstand very hostile environments. They have eggs that can do the same and lie dormant for long periods of time. They have lightning speed, hide really well, and have acid for blood.

          Now think about the world that could produce such a creature, with all those defenses. The Aliens.... are not even CLOSE to the top of the food chain. Imagine what horrors you would find on the world that produced them....

          THAT's the movie I want to see.

  22. Re:Specialized team? Not necessarily by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 3, Informative

    Um, weren't the Aliens found on a planet being terraformed? Remember, shooting up the guaranteed a big bang and everybody loses, including the Company.

    At the time of Alien the planet wasn't being terraformed. The events of Alien and Aliens were seperated by nearly 60 years, Ripley having been suspended in hypersleep between them.

    And the beacon, wasn't that the terraformers asking for help, or warning off any rescuers? A distress beacon, I thought.

    No, the distress beacon was coming from the crashed alien ship that was infected by xenomorphs.

    So the freighter charges in to save the day, not being told of the Aliens, which the Company wanted to monetize. See how stupid that sounds? Sending in amateurs was a safe bet to get an Alien back. They didn't account for Ripley.

    The freighter was sent in with the mission of investigating whatever the beacon was. The company possibly already knew about the beacon and what it meant though the official story on the Nostromo was that they were just investigating a mysterious distress beacon.

    Not much help from the androld except at the end, being a company machine and all. He spent all his time entertaining the Marines and trying to get someone infected and on the way back to Earth, as if that was so hard to do.

    The android from Alien (the science officer) was trying to get someone infected and returned to earth. However the android from Aliens (Bishop) wasn't, rather it was a company man (human) that was actively trying to get humans infected and back to earth.

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