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RadioShack To Rebrand As "The Shack"?

Harry writes "Rumor has it that RadioShack is planning to re-brand itself as The Shack later this year, after eighty-eight years under the old name (most of them with a space in between 'Radio' and 'Shack'). I hope it's not true, because I don't think the move would do a thing to make the retailer a better, more successful business." Where will we go to buy soldering irons and those RCA to headphone jack adapters now?

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  1. Beware of namechanges by Duds · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's very dangerous to rebrand because of how much you lose vs how much you gain. IBM makes bugger all money from "International Business Machines" these days but they wouldn't want to lose a brand everyone knows. Same for "Carphone Warehouse" in the UK, they don't want to lose the recognition despite the fact no-one has called a cell/mobile phone a car phone in 2 decades.

    And Microsoft's stuff certainly isn't small. (*sidesteps hook*)

    So despite the lack of "Radio" as their main business, they should REALLY look and see if the number of people who say "I don't need a radio I won't go there" might be outnumbered by the people who will end up saying "What the f is "The Shack"?". It sounds like somewhere you'd buy a very dodgy Hawaiian style shirt.

    1. Re:Beware of namechanges by Duds · · Score: 5, Funny

      Oh that's what it is, I thought it was a service that delivered you a popular 80s console by 9am...

    2. Re:Beware of namechanges by e4g4 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      they should REALLY look and see if the number of people who say "I don't need a radio I won't go there" might be outnumbered by the people who will end up saying "What the f is "The Shack"?"

      They should really look and see if the marketing company, to whom they undoubtedly gave millions of dollars for this rebranding idea, is worth their salt. On the other hand - name changes aren't always bad - Verizon seems to be managing just fine.

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    3. Re:Beware of namechanges by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 5, Informative

      They rebranded it from "Radio Shack" to "The Source" in Canada years and years ago. But everyone I know still refers to it as "Radio Shack". I can't even remember the name "The Source" well enough to tell someone how to find the place... I had to check online before I made this post.

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    4. Re:Beware of namechanges by rarel · · Score: 2, Insightful
      On the other end of the scale it can also be seen as a life saver for a company precisely because everyone knows the name.

      For example, the French Thomson SA is in a middle of restructuring, changed its field of business, and has been struggling because people still see it as a cheap brand of consumer electronics whereas they are now catering to pro industry clients. So changing name = blank slate, as it were.

      http://www.reuters.com/article/mergersNews/idUSLR8701120090727

      Not necessarily what happens here with "The Shack" (name sounds ridiculous btw), just saying that it can be carefully planned decision, and possibly financially sound.

      (Let's not talk about "Sy Fy" ;))

    5. Re:Beware of namechanges by Moryath · · Score: 5, Funny

      The rebranding of "The Shack" is because it's the only thing the marketing company could come up with that beat the more-apt "Crap Shack" moniker.

      Remember: Even the Radio Shack CEO can't figure out how his company stays in business.

    6. Re:Beware of namechanges by Canazza · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's been called Nesquik everywhere but the US, Canada, Mexico and Australia since the 1950s, the name was changed to "Nesquik" in 1999 in those countries.

      Unlike Opal Fruits, which were introduced as Starburst in the US in the 1970's and then had the brand changed everywhere else

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    7. Re:Beware of namechanges by MBCook · · Score: 4, Funny

      Agreed. "The Shack" just sounds incredibly sketchy to me.

      So you're saying the new name is a better fit?

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    8. Re:Beware of namechanges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      This could explain the recent rename of SciFi network. They want to lose their reputation for destroying series and bad made for TV movies, and hope that after changing their name to SyFy, people will forget. Unfortunately, they'll probably forget to fix their programming and just reaquire the bad reputation all over again.

    9. Re:Beware of namechanges by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Funny

      Worse, choosing a name that goes from "The Shack" to "The Suck" so smoothly(and appropriately) just seems like a terrible plan...

    10. Re:Beware of namechanges by Trahloc · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That wasn't a rebrand, it was sold off to circuit city, now some other company prob runs it. I use to work for the @#$%@shack at one of their most profitable stores in a district of ~30. Because we weren't selling the 'right' products we constantly were treated like trash, the fact that other stores were running at a loss didn't matter, they sold cell phones so they obviously knew what they were doing. That is until those stores got shutdown because some bean counter finally saw the numbers and told the sales/marketing jackoffs to stfu. The people in charge have been ruining it the last decade trying to be mini a Best Buy instead of focusing on what they actually did best, being the 7/11 of small electronics/parts, cables, and batteries, gd idiots.

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    11. Re:Beware of namechanges by residieu · · Score: 2, Insightful

      With Verizon it probably helped. Anyone happy with the Bell Atlantic/NYNEX/GTE was already a customer, and wasn't going to switch just because of a name change. Changing their name gave them a chance to trick some of their unhappy former customers into trying them out again.

    12. Re:Beware of namechanges by j1ggy · · Score: 5, Informative

      They were forced to because Circuit City swallowed up all of RadioShack's assets in Canada. They were no longer allowed to use the name as they are two competing companies. I believe the official name is "The Source by Circuit City". Instead of carrying the RadioShack brand of products in their stores, you'll find mostly Nexxtech stamped all over everything now.

    13. Re:Beware of namechanges by Chris+Burke · · Score: 2, Insightful

      IBM makes bugger all money from "International Business Machines" these days but they wouldn't want to lose a brand everyone knows.

      Yeah unless you consider a z/90 or other massive server computer to be a "business machine" -- hmm, a computer is a machine, and these are used by international businesses for essentially the same things as their classic tabulators, collators, and accounting machines and then some, I think it fits -- in which case it's more accurate to say "IBM makes all their money from 'International Business Machines'".

      Nevertheless your point about the importance of branding stands. :)

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    14. Re:Beware of namechanges by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Informative

      The problem is that most people equate Radio shack with "used to be useful, but is now an utter joke."

      They lowered pay and employee standard so all you get now is idiots, and they eliminated almost all of their good stuff and replaced it with crap you can get at Best Buy for less hassle. Their small parts section is a joke, but that is really only there to sucker the techie guy in the door.

      Their cellphone selection and accessories are a joke, their Stereo equipment are a joke, in fact everything there is a joke now. Radio Shack's heyday was the late 80's. They made some really stupid direction changes and they have been sliding towards irrelevant ever since.

      Radio Shack, you got Questions? We got blank stares.

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    15. Re:Beware of namechanges by badasscat · · Score: 4, Interesting

      With Verizon it probably helped. Anyone happy with the Bell Atlantic/NYNEX/GTE was already a customer, and wasn't going to switch just because of a name change. Changing their name gave them a chance to trick some of their unhappy former customers into trying them out again.

      The Verizon rebrand happened when they still had a monopoly on northeast area local call service, and that was their only real business. There wasn't any choice of switching or not. You can rebrand as many times as you want when customers have no other company to go to. (A lot of utilities rebrand pretty frequently for that reason - my gas company just rebranded themselves as "National Grid" a little while ago, even though they only serve the Northeast. But I have no other choice of where to get my gas, so who cares?) I suspect my gas company rebranded themselves the way they did for the same reason as Verizon - they did not want to continue to be pigeonholed by their name into one region of the country. (Ditto for Cingular, now AT&T, which is an apt case of "back to the future".) In those cases, the rebranding allowed a local company to go national.

      I would love to see Verizon try to rebrand themselves again now, in the middle of a major battle with Cablevision for TV and phone service, and an ongoing battle with the three other major cell phone carriers for cell phone service. It would be a disaster.

      Any company that has major competition and is not region-bound by their name had better think long and hard about rebranding itself. You have to make the determination that your current brand is actually hurting you more than the confusion caused by rebranding would. I can't see how that's the case with Radio Shack. In fact, most companies interested in re-branding would be better served by going back to their roots and seeing what made them successful in the first place, not throwing it all away and trying to start from zero. (See aforementioned AT&T - how many telegraphs will you use today?)

    16. Re:Beware of namechanges by pha7boy · · Score: 2, Funny

      you know what "the Shack" is? it's the place you go to watch "SyFy"

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    17. Re:Beware of namechanges by MBGMorden · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't know. A lot of times I'll want SOMETHING (often those adapters you mentioned) that I need right friggen now and nowhere else but Radio Shack will carry the stuff. I had an XLR microphone connector get severed off of one of my mics about 8 hours before a huge meeting I was getting ready to host. If needed I still had some backup mics, but they weren't nearly as good. So I head down to Radio Shack, buy a $5 connector, and a few minutes later I'm back in business.

      Or when I was in college doing an electronics project. They gave us a ton of resistors, LEDs, and the like, but I must have lost one or something because when I was doing one project due the next day, I came up short a few resistors that I needed. Only place in town that carried them was Radio Shack. Went down there and bought a new pack for a dollar or two and the project went fine.

      Now I have no idea how they survive on the paltry business people seem to send their way (for me they're just there for me to spend $5 per year tops in), but I do know that it's nice to have them around, even if they're only rarely needed.

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    18. Re:Beware of namechanges by Old+Grey+Beard · · Score: 5, Funny

      I went in to a local Shack to buy a soldering iron a couple months ago. They don't have them. They do have cell phones, and boy do they love to pitch them. I have no idea who sells soldering irons any more, though I'm sure I could use Bing to google around.

      Is it proper English to use "google" intransitively?

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    19. Re:Beware of namechanges by badasscat · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Radio Shack in Canada has pretty much always sucked. It's nothing like the American chain.

      Your gripes are exactly my gripes about the American chain, so it's probably not much different. I have a RS within walking distance of my house, so I went to buy a four-pack of rechargeable AA batteries there a while ago - something that costs $9.99 at Target and pretty much anywhere else - and they wanted to charge me $21.99 for it. When I pointed out how ridiculous this price was, they looked shocked and asked me where I saw it for less. I said "everywhere" literally as I was walking out the door.

      Radio Shack's problem for the last 15 years or so has been that they don't understand their place in the world. They have delusions of being the next Best Buy, but a) their prices suck, b) their stores are too small, c) their salespeople are even bigger idiots than BB's, and d) as Circuit City proved, we don't want another Best Buy.

      I don't understand what the shame is in having a relatively small chain of stores that sells tools, supplies, wiring, antennas, etc. that we all need but don't really know where else to get. There are a lot of online stores these days that thrive selling nothing but things like LCD/plasma TV mounts and HDMI cables for reasonable prices. That could have been Radio Shack. But nobody thinks of them for that stuff anymore because they have decided their core business is instead things like poorly-made RC cars, game consoles and cell phones - all things that specialty retailers and discount chains do better and/or sell for lower prices. Meanwhile, the cables and whatnot that they *do* still have are all overpriced too, because they have decided to "gold plate" everything in an effort to make their stuff seem more "premium" than it is.

      I suspect rebranding as "The Shack" is an attempt to put them further down that road that they shouldn't be on, and going the wrong way.

    20. Re:Beware of namechanges by Chris+Burke · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well you gotta admit that the "x86 crap" brand wasn't exactly a brilliant stroke of marketing.

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    21. Re:Beware of namechanges by Dragonslicer · · Score: 3, Funny

      Worse, choosing a name that goes from "The Shack" to "The Suck" so smoothly(and appropriately) just seems like a terrible plan...

      I think going to "The Shaft" is an easier move.

    22. Re:Beware of namechanges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Bell aka the Telecom from hell that charges a non-optional $2.80 a month fee for touch tone service:
      http://www.thestar.com/Business/article/595445

    23. Re:Beware of namechanges by twistedsymphony · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I've referred to it as "The Shitty Shack" or "RatShack" for nearly a decade already... I lost complete faith in them when they started putting more emphasis in selling mobile phones than any other product in the store.... where the F else are you going to pickup that last little electrical component you need for your project instead of paying Digikey $12 to ship a 5 cent part?... though it pisses me off when there is only one clerk in the store helping some old lady decide on a cell phone while I stand at the register for 10 minutes waiting to buy a fresh roll of solder.

      I miss the college days... there was an electronics shop down the street from the school that was what you'd imagine if mouser opened a retail outlet.... it's a shame how few places like that still exist. It's an even bigger shame how not only is most of society not interested in learning about and working with electronics but actually FEAR peole who do... I miss the cold-war era sci-fi culture where it was actually cool to and respected if you got into the technical side of things. /rant

    24. Re:Beware of namechanges by CastrTroy · · Score: 4, Informative

      According to snopes, it was because they didn't want to have to pay licensing fees to the commonwealth of Kentucky for using the word Kentucky.

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    25. Re:Beware of namechanges by CastrTroy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      How many 5 cent parts do they have to sell in a day to pay that $7 an hour employee. How many cell phones do they have to sell to pay that employee. Truth is, they could probably sell 1 phone a day for an employees entire day of wages. While they would have to serve more than 1 customer every minute selling 5 cent parts. And that's just the employee. Never mind all the overhead of the store. I think a much better way of selling those little parts you need would be to have a bunch of warehouses and you order them over the internet. After which they are mailed out in the cheapest way possible. Sure you wouldn't get them very quickly, but do you have any idea how much retail space costs in this day and age. I'm surprised they carry these little electronics parts at all.

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    26. Re:Beware of namechanges by StikyPad · · Score: 4, Informative

      When they started selling phones? Really? Not when they started hawking generic electronics and speakers at premium prices under the Optimus brand? Or when they tried to sell you a Tandy every time you stepped through the door?

      To be fair, electronic component sales really aren't a viable market anymore. With the price of production shrinking just as fast as the size of transistors, we've long since entered the world of disposable electronics, where it's cheaper to design and manufacture products to be replaced in their entirety than to be repairable. Surface mount technology was pretty much the death knell for that. Sure, there are exceptions, and I probably do more electronic repairs than most people, but it's still a rare event. I recognize that our hobby/habit is becoming more and more of a rarity, and on modern electronics, the only *technician* serviceable parts are basically connectors and buttons/switches. It's not like you can even get schematics for most electronics these days, so unless you know for a fact that you just broke off a SMC, and what its value was, you're probably never going to find the fault. I've even seen boards straight from the manufacturer with components broken off or leads clipped to correct design flaws, so you can't rely on sight alone.

      When it comes down to it, people would rather just get a new device than pay someone half the replacement price, and in most cases more than the market value of the old one. Desktop computers are about the only exception, but even then you're usually swapping out boards rather than performing component-level repairs. When I bent the pins on my LGA 775 socket, for example, the entire motherboard was a wash. It would have cost $25 just for the part from my wholesaler after discount, and hours of tedium to manually resolder 775 pins, IF I could even pull it off without creating a short or melting a trace. And I certainly didn't want to risk a $100 used CPU in a home-soldered socket, let alone the brand new $500 CPU I was replacing it with. Better to just run out and get a new motherboard for $100, and the peace of mind that comes with it.

    27. Re:Beware of namechanges by eclectro · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well put. But the problem is not the profit margin on the parts, the problem is that so few people buy them anymore. Electronics has changed wildly over the past 30 years with the advent of surface mount. Electronics nowadays is defined by an ipod, not by a pack of quarter watt resistors. They had to branch out into other areas, or as a chain they would have never survived. But the thing that bothers me the most is the disappearance of "repair centers." Nothing is repairable like it once was.

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    28. Re:Beware of namechanges by RealGrouchy · · Score: 3, Informative

      And if you click on the More information about this page link at the bottom of that page, Snopes debunks that one, too.

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    29. Re:Beware of namechanges by LoverOfJoy · · Score: 2, Funny

      At least, they don't have the Gestapo tactics of needing all your personal information to buy something that costs less than a dollar anymore.

      That reminds me of years ago when a really hot chick working the register at my local Radio Shack asked, "Can I have your phone number?"

      Taken aback, I replied, "Sure, can I have yours?" That didn't go over well. I bet she hated her job.

    30. Re:Beware of namechanges by sumdumass · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Bing and millions after millions of dollars in advertising.

      However, they may be padding those numbers. I recently had to track down an error in a windows 2003 server box. Sending the error by clicking the support link in the eventvwr and expecting the help and support function to list probable causes and KB articles relating to it ended up automatically redirecting me to a bing search. of course the search string it used was broken and didn't show any results.

    31. Re:Beware of namechanges by Xantharus · · Score: 2, Informative

      "I'm going to grab a Mountain Dew because I need a coke to wash down my burger and fries"?

      I see you have never been to the south before.

    32. Re:Beware of namechanges by davester666 · · Score: 2, Informative

      > of course the search string it used was broken and didn't show any results

      It wasn't broken...there's just no help available from Microsoft.

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  2. Surveillance by Baldrson · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Well since they aren't going to sell real electronics anymore, maybe they'll stop reporting who is buying what electronics components to the government. Or am I thinking of the 80s?

    1. Re:Surveillance by Kamokazi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      My local 'Shack' hasn't sold real electronics for years now. I've gone there 4 times over the past two years. Once they had something that kinda worked. The other two times I eneded up finding it at Wal-Mart. I'm really not sure why I bother, except that they are in the same minimall as Wal-Mart.

      This line made me chuckle:

      "Where will we go to buy soldering irons and those RCA to headphone jack adapters now?"

      Mine doesn't carry soldering irons, and they might have a place on the shelf for the adapters, but I'd be shocked if they have any stock. It's really quite sad. They wonder why they are going out of business...it's because they've changed their competition from Ace Hardware to Best Buy. And competing with Best Buy is always a good idea, isn't that right Circuit City and CompUSA?

      A year from now, I predict 'The Shack' will be liquidating assets under Chapter 11. Anyone wanna take that bet? It would be smarter than buying Radio Shack stock.

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    2. Re:Surveillance by nomadic · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm really not sure why I bother, except that they are in the same minimall as Wal-Mart.

      If you have to frequent minimalls that have Wal-Marts and Radio Shacks you need to move to someplace less soul-destroying.

    3. Re:Surveillance by vlm · · Score: 3, Informative

      Could you please elaborate on this?

      Back in the handwritten receipt era, they used to "demand" names and addresses for all purchases to add you to the catalog list.

      I had relatives employed there, and address collection was a typical MBA tracking metric complete with graphs and goals and standards, you could be fired for not bothering, there was a minimum quota for data gathering, etc. If I recall around a quarter century ago you were expected to get the address at least 60% of the time. During christmas rush it was assumed you'd not bother, on the other hand, during the slowest football sunday it was assumed you'd gather all info since you have nothing better to do.

      Crazy people usually had the intersection of two beliefs :

      1) That anyone cares that you personally bought a headphone-RCA adapter cable.

      2) That no one can tell a lie to a store clerk, or just plain ole make stuff up (Yes sir, I do in fact live at 1600 penn ave in DC). They never, ever, asked for picture ID.

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    4. Re:Surveillance by moosesocks · · Score: 4, Informative

      A year from now, I predict 'The Shack' will be liquidating assets under Chapter 11. Anyone wanna take that bet? It would be smarter than buying Radio Shack stock.

      Bad prediction. Against all odds and logic, the company is reasonably profitable.

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    5. Re:Surveillance by commodore64_love · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah because visiting the minimall that has JCPenney and Woolworth's is just sooooo much better.

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    6. Re:Surveillance by Volante3192 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      A very unusual project at work required me to make a mono audio jack to RJ11 cable.

      My first thought was 'Radio Shack.' I'm digging through the drawers of connectors and the salesman came over and asked if I needed any help. (I was the only one in the store, he was probably bored.) I explained the project and got a blank stare.

      I eventually found bits that worked for my purposes (1/4" mono jack, screw down...no soldering iron at work, not that I'd want to risk it in the first place, I'm not that coordinated... and a 1/4" to 1/8" mono jack converter. Incidentally the converter was 3x as much...go fig.) Paid and left.

      I couldn't help but think if this was 10, 15 years ago not only would I not have gotten a blank stare, if it was that slow they might have offered to even make it while i was there.

    7. Re:Surveillance by Ephemeriis · · Score: 5, Informative

      A very unusual project at work required me to make a mono audio jack to RJ11 cable.

      My first thought was 'Radio Shack.' I'm digging through the drawers of connectors and the salesman came over and asked if I needed any help. (I was the only one in the store, he was probably bored.) I explained the project and got a blank stare.

      I wanted to hook up my laptop's S-Video to my TV's RCA video.

      I know such cables and adapters exist, I've used them before and seen them online for just a few dollars. But I didn't have any handy, and didn't want to wait for something to ship. I figured Radio Shack would have what I needed.

      My wife and I were the only customers there, so the sales people kept hovering around. I shoo'ed them away a couple times, but I was having a genuinely difficult time locating the part. Eventually I got tired of them asking to help me and I told them what I was looking for.

      One of them gave me a blank look, the other one looked amused. He then carefully explained that there was no such simple adapter and that I'd have to purchase some kind of RF converter box. He showed me a device with inputs for everything under the sun... S-Video, RCA, component... And outputs in RCA and coax. The box cost around $100.

      I noticed right next to this RF converter box an S-Video to RCA cable. Exactly what I'd been looking for. Except that it was about 10 feet long and gold plated. The cable itself was $30 or so.

      I didn't buy either item at Radio Shack. I went to WalMart instead. Found a little adapter for $2 and a 5 foot cable for $7 or so. Spent about $10 total and it works great.

      That was the last time I went to Radio Shack.

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    8. Re:Surveillance by Fishstick · · Score: 2, Funny

      exactly

      I did something similar, was looking to make a cable for my TiVo to connect serial to DB25 on the back of my router box so I could dial out over ppp instead of phone (was getting rid of home phone service).

      I knew what I needed, a DB25 male kit and a 1/4" stereo jack. I went o Radio Shack and was looking at the parts on the wall when the kid came up and asked if I needed help.

      "Yes, I need a DB25 connector kit and a 1/4" stereo jack"

      "What for?"

      I took a deep breath. I wasn't really looking for help on my part selection, just trying to find what should have been $5 in parts on a hook on the wall, really.

      But I couldn't help myself.

      "I'm making a cable for my TiVo"

      "Why? TiVo should have come with all the cables"

      "Yes, but I am building a serial cable to connect from the TiVo to a PC"

      "Why?"

      "To dial up over PPP"

      *blank stare*

      "so, I just need these parts to make a cable, do you have them?"

      "Well, the cables are over on this wall..."

      felt like I was talking to the Secretary of the Interior

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    9. Re:Surveillance by istartedi · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Anyone wanna take that bet?

      Yes. They're called traders. Ticker symbol RSH. You could short the stock, but that doesn't seem like such a bright idea since they have a PE of less than 10 and are even paying a modest dividend. They seem to have done a smart job over the years of changing with the times-- selling the infamous "trash 80" back in my youth, always selling consumer and hobby electronics, and now selling cel phones.

      FWIW, I think the name change is a dumb idea though. It sounds like it was pitched by the same consultant that wants to rebrand Pizza Hut to "The Hut". Every few years it seems like there's a re-naming fad. 10 years ago it was the neologism fad that gave us "Verizon", "Altria", and another one that use to be Anderson Consultants. I can still remember Anderson Consultants, but for the life of me I can't remember what they call themselves now.

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    10. Re:Surveillance by Kamokazi · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I live in a town of 10k people. That's the only place to go. It has a Gamestop, UPS Store, and some crappy clothing store. It might technically be called a strip mall, whatever. Anything bigger is an hour drive away, and I usually just order from the internet at that point.

      And no, I don't live in Montana or Wyoming or something. This is actually Ohio.

      Other than having no local stores with anything decent, it's pretty nice for geeks like me who'd rather spend their weekends indoors playing PC games. Quiet, low cost of living, I've got a good job, and the local telco has fiber run to my house that's fast and reliable, and their service is great (it doesn't hurt that the operations manager is my dad's weekend drinking buddy). With all the Comcast and Time Warner horror stories, I'm afraid to move anyplace where I can't say I love my ISP. (TWC is around here, but in the parts where the local telco has their fiber with IPTV, Time Warner marketshare is 20% or less...prople drop them like a bad habit as soon as they can.)

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    11. Re:Surveillance by Nocturrne · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I used to be an exec at RadioShack, but left when they started to go into a downward spiral. Don't be fooled by misleading financial reports. The "profit" they claim was achieved through cost cutting. If you look at the details, you will see their revenue and sales have been dropping continuously for the last 8 years. They can't survive on cost cutting forever...

    12. Re:Surveillance by moosesocks · · Score: 2, Informative

      another one that use to be Anderson Consultants. I can still remember Anderson Consultants, but for the life of me I can't remember what they call themselves now.

      Anderson Consultants changed its name to Accenture, and was extremely lucky to do so, given the Enron scandal that destroyed its sister company, Arthur Anderson.

      Even though the two companies hadn't been directly related since the 1980s, the name would have been a huge taint on their brand.

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  3. Problem by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The main problem is that a "shack" usually connotes a cheap, run down house. Not really the image they should try to project.

    (I know "clam shack", "radio shack", etc. don't really have such a connotation. I'm just talking about the word "shack" when it's used all by itself.)

    1. Re:Problem by RKThoadan · · Score: 2, Funny

      And everyone told me my research into electrically conductive spaghetti noodles was foolish. I'll show them now!

  4. legalize now by davejenkins · · Score: 4, Funny

    They're just anticipating the coming legalization of pot. It will allow them to move into a generalized convenience store model, sort of a "smarter" quik-e-mart: soldering irons, robot toys, pot,and munchies.

    1. Re:legalize now by cmpalmer · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Back in the early 80's, the Radio Shack store at the local mall had a fishbowl full of alligator clips marked "party favors" (roach clips).

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  5. How are they even still in business at this point? by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Radioshack has spent the last 20-30 years attempting to rebrand itself from a store that carries one-of-a-kind electrical components and equipment to a store that carries 2nd-rate, overpriced versions of the stuff everyone else carries (cellphones, computers, really awful audio equipment, non-educational toys, etc.). It's all part of their master plan to turn themselves into a store with no apparent reason to exist.

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  6. Cheap electronic parts by crumbz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Where will we go to buy soldering irons and those RCA to headphone jack adapters now?"

    Digikey?

    Not to be an old grumpy man, but RS has missed out on the electronics maker revolution of the past decade. They could have been on the ball, like NewEgg, for the PC modding market but failed to adapt to the market. The RS of today is but a poor imitation of the RS of the '70s and '80s. Full of crap, obsoleted models and cheap junk. /Now get off my lawn.

    1. Re:Cheap electronic parts by schnikies79 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Most of the time when I got to radio shack for a component, I need it now. Not in two days.

      For instance, movie night with my buds a few weeks ago. DVD player popped a cap (blah, that sounded ghetto. magic smoke instead). A trip the Radio Crack and 20 mins later, we were back in business.

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  7. So? by kjs3 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Radio Shack has been an irrelevant vendor of cell phones and cheap 2nd tier consumer electronics for a decade. Long gone are the days when one ran down there to pick up a couple of capacitors and transistors to finish that weekend project.

  8. Re:Go to Wal-mart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The selection is the same? Really? When was the last time you bought an op-amp at Wal-mart?

  9. Already done in Canada by HappyHead · · Score: 2, Informative

    All of the Radio Shack stores in Canada (that I've been able to find at least) were rebranded as "The Source" years ago.

  10. Agreed ... bad move .... by King_TJ · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In the last decade or so, Radio Shack seems to have been really pushing to become more of a "boutique electronics retailer", ditching their image as a "parts store" for hobbyists. I guess on one hand, I understand the desire - because there's not a lot of profit in individual sales when your customers want a package of resistors, a spool of wire, or some $10 pliers or cutter tool.

    But I don't think their obvious alternative has worked out very well for them either. They're stuck trying to compete with much larger stores like Best Buy, and getting killed merely because Radio Shack doesn't have enough floor space in a store to carry the variety people expect when shopping for a new flat panel TV set or stereo, or computer.

    Reminding people that their stores are small "EG. "The Shack" is emphasizing what may be their biggest negative in the market-space they're working in!

  11. Re:Back in the day... by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 4, Informative

    I used to buy parts 'at the last minute' at the rat shack. now, I don't even bother looking anymore and instead just hit up the only valid mailorder places left: digikey, mouser, newark are the big 3.

    their parts are cheap enough, they work, they web ordering works and the selection is world class (literally, many people across the world order parts FROM the US distributors and even pay VAT/customs to receive the pkg).

    I go into a rat shack and I see candy, cellphones and an ever dwindling parts selection.

    they don't even carry x10 powerline remote stuff anymore (that used to be a stable at the shack).

    I might as well turn in my radio shack battery club card:

    http://www.antiqueradios.com/gallery/v/temp/battofmonth2.jpg.html

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  12. Future uncertain by kheldan · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Radio Shack used to be a decent outlet for common electronic parts, what I've referred to as "the 7-11 of electronics". Over the last 10-15 years it's been shifting away from that, and into something more like a micro version of Best Buy or Circuit City with some electronic parts. I guess the world is moving away from electronics as a hobby now, which is sad, but even though they're not as useful as they once were, I'd be sad to see Radio Shack disappear. Aside from the local Fry's, which despite the immense amount of aisle space they dedicate to it has a pathetic selection of electronic components, there isn't anywhere else you can just walk in and find what you might need. It would suck to have to mail-order everything you need when you might need it on the spur of the moment.

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  13. Are there two more low-tech words by 93,000 · · Score: 3, Funny

    than 'radio' and 'shack'? Telegraph hut? Gramophone igloo? Victrola shed? . . .

    1. Re:Are there two more low-tech words by himself · · Score: 2, Funny

      Wireless Yurt.

  14. Re:Back in the day... by p_trekkie · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Actually, they still sell logic chips and miscellaneous electronic components, albeit fairly well-hidden in the back of the store. I had a last minute idea for a project for a summer camp group I was leading last week and was able to pick up all the components I needed from RadioShack. Admittedly, the selection isn't what it used to be, but it's still there when you have a sudden pressing need for resistors, LEDs, transistors and capacitors....

    Who knows what this "rebranding" will do for that section of the store....

  15. Hmmm... by thisnamestoolong · · Score: 4, Funny

    I was actually thinking that if they were going to change one part of their name, calling the store a 'shack' is certainly more likely to turn away customers than implying that you sell radios... would you buy anything from the Computer Hovel? The Cell Phone Shanty? Meh... I won't be sad to see them go in any case, they have totally missed the opportunity to dominate the hobbyist market by making a half-assed attempt at edging into the mainstream.

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  16. Not Taking it Far Enough! by Trifthen · · Score: 5, Funny

    Indeed, I believe they are being too conservative in this renaming. For regular customers of Radio Shack, we know the new name is too high class. The only possible remedy for this situation is to name the chain "Electronics Shanty," because we all know that's what they are.

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    1. Re:Not Taking it Far Enough! by TarrVetus · · Score: 2, Interesting

      As employees, we called ourselves CellularShack and iPodHut. We couldn't satisfy the (once) dedicated customers and do-it-yourselfers that came to look through our dwindling electronics parts sections--all we could do was try to sell them an iPod or cellphone. It was a miserable feeling.

      Personally, I like GadgetHovel. It conjures ideas of Sharper Image and other overpriced random junk dealers, as well as uses "hovel," which captures the cheap and trashy feeling I get every time I go into a RadioShack.


      Maybe it's a good idea they're rebranding. To me, RadioShack ceased to exist long ago. At least the new name will make it clear to everyone.

  17. Re:How do they stay in business? by i.r.id10t · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And when your paper, project, etc. is due Monday morning, and your CPU fan or PSU dies Friday night, you really have time for a online purchase...

    There are some things that you just have to have *now* and even if it costs you $5-10 more than the online item, having it after a 30 min drive and short walk is worth it.

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  18. (caution: game refernce) by The+Redster! · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think they should change their name to "Hz So Good."

  19. The City by Frankie70 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Rebranding Circuit City as "The City" worked well for Circuit City?

    Is there some Consultant on the loose recommneding this?

  20. Re:Back in the day... by rikkards · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Every time I went into the Source (Radio Shack in Canada since someone still owns the name) and went to that section, the guy would always come over assuming I was stealing batteries or some remote control doodad because no one ever goes into that section anymore.

  21. Re:How do they stay in business? by Ohio+Calvinist · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I remember that exact article, and you are right. I think RS does well in small markets (like where I am from) that doesn't have any of the big-box stores and tends to cater to customers who were told "I need a USB cable" but don't know what that is or where to get one. They expect they'll get marginally better (knowledgable) service than Wal-Mart with less hastle. Last time I was there in California a lot of people were paying the cellular bill there, which I don't understand why anyone would pay their bill in person when there are a lot more efficient method(s).

    I think they key for them is that crowd, and the "I need it now so I'll pay a little extra" or the "I'll pay a little extra not to stand in line at wal-mart where the person in front of me wants to send a Money Order and buy a carton of cigarettes they have to get from the counter on the other end of the store."

    They also do well when you're looking for esoteric batteries like for cameras, hearing aids, etc. They're also pretty good at having odd cables at decent prices (amongst other brick-and-mortars) such as a male-male 1/4" stereo cable for the AUX jack in newer cars. They are also good when you're traveling and need said odd batteries or a cell charger.

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  22. For those with an historical bent by dtmos · · Score: 5, Informative

    The term "radio shack" was coined in the early 20th Century, when shipping companies began to add radio to their vessels. Since the ships were already built, the extra room for the radio equipment had to be added -- there was typically no existing space with both access to the antenna (i.e., above deck) and the necessary electrical power from the ship's plant. (The audible noise from the spark equipment of the day also meant that the equipment, which was used largely at night, couldn't be placed near the officers' sleeping quarters.) Paid for out of operating expenses by the frugal shipowners, these added rooms were typically small and poorly constructed, often from wood, and the term "radio shack" quickly followed.

    New ship construction, of course, included a purpose-built room for the radio equipment, still called the "radio shack." Even the Queen Elizabeth 2 has a radio shack. The term quickly moved ashore -- amateur radio stations are in shacks, for example -- and "radio shack" came to mean the place where all the equipment was. From there, commercial use soon followed.

  23. Re:How are they even still in business at this poi by Gkeeper80 · · Score: 3, Funny
  24. Radioshack is profitable by EsJay · · Score: 5, Informative
    While you are all spelling out exactly why RadioShack can't succeed (they don't stock flux capacitors!!!), the company is busy making money. They were in the black last year, too.

    Ft Worth Business Press - August 03, 2009 - [RadioShack] posted an about 18 percent increase in net income over second quarter 2008's $41.4 million, according to the financial statement. During the quarter, the company also posted cash and cash equivalents of $931 million, compared with $578 million last year, and inventories of $578 million, about $41 million less than the same quarter last year.

    1. Re:Radioshack is profitable by canajin56 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Well, yeah, $41 million in a quarter seems like a lot of net income, but remember, that's only like 4 of their god damned monster cables.

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  25. Lance Armstrong is gonna be pissed by sir_eccles · · Score: 4, Funny

    He just created a new cycling team called Team RadioShack and will have to change the name to match, he had the t-shirts printed and everything.

  26. Re:How do they stay in business? by guyminuslife · · Score: 4, Informative

    1) The workers make minimum wage plus commission.
    2) They specialize in items with a high profit margin. And then they mark them up.
    3) They attach themselves to "hot items" that suddenly everyone needs. Most recent example: digital converter boxes have been huge business.
    4) They cut costs like crazy. The CEO famously sold off all their plants to employees to save them money on maintaining them. Et cetera.
    5) They're everywhere, they're convenient. If you need something specific and relatively common, chances are the RadioShack is closer to where you live and small enough that, unlike, say, Fry's, you don't have to wander around a big box for 30 minutes.

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  27. Location, location, location by JSBiff · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Basically, what the parent says - RadioShack might have smaller locations, but they have *more* locations than *anybody* else (except, maybe soon, Walmart; I really wonder if Walmart is having any impact on RS's business - I bet they are a bigger problem than the Internet for RS). They're everywhere - even in strip malls in little out-of-the-way semi-rural areas. They might not have everything, but they have lots of adapters and cables to get things hooked up ("Oh, we got this new HDTV and we want to use it now, but we need a stupid adaptor which wasn't included with the device").

    Radio Shack is convenient, and expensive. The expensive allows them to stay profitable with so many locations, the convenience makes them compelling for lots of 'small' purchases where, yeah, maybe Radio Shack is charging 50 percent more than anyone else, but it's a difference between $10 and $15 and people decide the extra $5 is just worth it to get the thing now.

  28. Changes needed by WindBourne · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Quite honestly, they are trying to compete against established bigger companies that have gone out of businesses. By doing all made electronic gadgets, they are hurting themselves. OTH, they could go in a different direction. How about selling not just electronic parts, but items for building ideas? The reason that I suggest that, is that America used to have an infrastructure that made it possible to build a number of gadgets, ideas, etc. That is slowly going away. For example, radio shack no longer has the ability to build computers. And the capabilities to breadboard things is minimal. BUT, if they put together kits for learning from, and then made it possible to order on-line and simply pick up the parts in a couple of days at a local shack they would go far. Also, at the same time, they should consider targeting items such as adding speakers to a house. And why not offer innovative products. Heck, at this time, they would be wise to ask for new patentable ideas to be made by Americans (or at least in the west) and sold here.

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  29. Of Any Other Name. by Usually+Unlucky+ · · Score: 2, Informative

    There was a chain of porn shops around Baltimore called "The Shack" so the name will have some hilarious connotations here.

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  30. Can't be much worse than SYFY by burtosis · · Score: 2, Funny

    Nuff' said.

  31. My favorite reference from an old /. posting: by DutchUncle · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Radio Shack. You've got questions; we've got blank stares."

  32. The Shack, Baby The Shack by MrKaos · · Score: 3, Funny
    Maybe their tin roof,, rusted.

    With apologies to the B-52s

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  33. Re: competitors by macraig · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The competitors of the traditional Radio Shack were not the likes of Ace Hardware, and only marginally were they stores like BestBuy or CompUSA. Radio Shack didn't sell hardware for mechanical engineering, like an Ace Hardware store; it sold hardware for electr(ical|onic) engineering. Its competitors were other electronics hobbyist and surplus stores, like Dow Electronics, Marvac Electronics, HSE Electronics, and so on.

    Truth be told, though, Radio Shack's biggest competition came from the atrophy of that market. Over the last three decades, steadily more people have become consumers of electronics and stopped being creators or engineers of it. That is why Radio Shack transitioned from selling components to selling "pre-fab" products; they couldn't compete with those other stores in a dwindling market, and some of those other hobbyist stores have disappeared altogether. Could they have created an advertising campaign that would single-handedly have reinvigorated the hobbyist component market? I doubt it.

    That said, this alleged re-branding is even more idiotic than Pacific Bell spending $750,000 to re-brand itself as Pacific Telesis Group (that was just the bill from the ad agency that came up with the name, not the total cost of the name change). "The Shack" isn't edgy or funny, it's just weird and dumb, especially because it will say NOTHING descriptive about the current business model or product offerings.

  34. Radio Shack... 10-15 years ago? More like 25-30.. by Tetsujin · · Score: 2, Informative

    I couldn't help but think if this was 10, 15 years ago not only would I not have gotten a blank stare, if it was that slow they might have offered to even make it while i was there.

    Nah, that's not quite far enough back... At least, not in the Radio Shacks I'm familiar with. In the mid-Nineties the stores were roughly as they are now. Maybe fewer cell phones and more VCRs and DVD players, but the reduction of the parts section and the blank stare effect were in full force at that point.

    Mid to late 1980s you might have had better luck. I still can't imagine the folks at Radio Shack building anything for me, but they'd be happy to show me their selection of soldering irons...

    Honestly, though, while the hobbyist aspect of Radio Shack has declined a lot since I was a kid, I have been impressed from time to time with what they do have. For instance, they carry a kit + activity book to help people learn to use microcontrollers. That's damn cool IMO. I never would have thought I'd see such a thing in Radio Shack these days: from about 1995 onward I've been pretty cynical about them due to the vast reduction in the parts section.

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  35. There is a Radio in your Carphone. by tepples · · Score: 3, Funny

    Same for "Carphone Warehouse" in the UK, they don't want to lose the recognition despite the fact no-one has called a cell/mobile phone a car phone in 2 decades. [...] [RadioShack] should REALLY look and see if the number of people who say "I don't need a radio I won't go there" might be outnumbered

    FACT: There is a Radio in your TV. There is a Radio in your Wi-Fi laptop. In fact, there is a Radio in your Carphone.

  36. Missing the point of the brand... by tjstork · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It used to be that if you walked into a Radio Shack and saw a bunch of TRS-80 computers, a wall full of electronic parts, total geeks working behind the counter, you might get the impression that the TV's and Stereos that they carried were pretty good stuff, because the whole store screams geek.

    By getting rid of the geeky electronics image, they've kinda undermined their consumer electronics brand... were I a consumer electronics retailer, I would carry a mix of hobbyist equipment and just let it sit on the shelves, and premium products, and I'd bet one could establish a brand.... I mean, if Home Depot can make 100B a year selling the idea that you build a deck yourself, why not have people put together their own PCs and LCD tvs...

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  37. Re:pot and phone phreaking? by sconeu · · Score: 2, Funny

    You could always buy potentiometers there.

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  38. Radio Hut by Majestix · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I've been calling it Radio Hut for the longest time!

    Its not like this rebranding will make the products any better or cheaper. But what do i know.

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  39. Re:Go to Wal-mart by Volvogga · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hey, that's one of my favorite pass times. There isn't many things I enjoy more in the mall than walking into RadioShack, being approached by an employee offering to help me find something, and telling him exactly what it is that I want. The look of confusion, horror, and dulling of the eyes as DUMMY MODE moves to the ON position makes me smile on the inside.

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  40. Playing into American technical downfall by RomulusNR · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Rad Hack's flaw was giving up on being THE store for electronic, A/V, and other technical components, cutting back on things like electronics kits in favor of pre-built robots, etc. Instead of maintaining a technical focus, they veered into a confusing mash of angles like prebuilt computers, TVs and video players, and cell phones.

    I am one of few people that still go to RadHack for cables and rare items that would be marked up 200% at Best Buy or impossible to find. I don't know why anyone else goes there -- and I think that's their problem.

    Other things I like about RS is that the staff usually only ask if you need help once, and aren't impossible to find when you DO need help finding something, and usually there is someone there who has a clue as to the arcane thing you are looking for.

    Trying to be a miniature Best Buy, and leaving more than 75% of their small floors as open space, is their problem -- not branding. DIY is becoming vogue again, and they should try returning to their DIY roots.

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  41. Want some Eggs? by djdevon3 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    NewEgg doesn't sell eggs. You can't order a real Bengal from TigerDirect. You can't buy Micro Stars from MSI. and finally... Macintosh does not sell real Apples.

    1. Re:Want some Eggs? by sglewis100 · · Score: 2, Funny

      NewEgg doesn't sell eggs. You can't order a real Bengal from TigerDirect. You can't buy Micro Stars from MSI. and finally... Macintosh does not sell real Apples.

      You may be right on the first three, but the last one would be Apple does not sell real Macintoshes. And even then... it's McIntosh. There is no fruit called Macintosh. Must be a boring lunch for me to even write this.

    2. Re:Want some Eggs? by SEWilco · · Score: 2, Funny

      You can't order a real Bengal from TigerDirect.

      Not unless you have $10.99 plus shipping. Looks real, although I'd have to look at it in person to better judge if it is fake.

  42. Re:I prefered "Radio Shaft" by demonbug · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As bad as Radio Shack's prices are, they're still cheaper than Best buy...