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Church of Scientology Proposes Net Censorship In Australia
An anonymous reader writes "Submitted by the Australian branch of Scientology to the local Human Rights Commission is a proposal to eliminate anonymity on the net and the removal of critical websites (MS Word document).
The submission is listed as #1931 at this page at the Australian Human Rights Commission." (Read on below for some of the details of what the Scientologists propose.)
"SUMMARY OF RECOMMENDATIONS: Recommendation 1: The implementation of Criminal and Civil Restrictions on Religious Vilification. Recommendation 2: Restriction on Anonymity on acts of Religious Vilification: 2.1 Websites created with primary purpose of inciting religious vilification shall be removed or their access to the Australian public restricted. 2.2 Creators of websites whose primary purpose is the incitement of religious vilification shall be prevented from concealing their identity. Recommendation 3: Restriction on Religious Misinformation and
Misrepresentation known or reasonably known to be untruthful in the Media
Recommendation 4: Include a form of Bill or Charter of Rights into the Australian Constitution, which prevents the Commonwealth from making any law, which 'directly, indirectly or incidentally' prohibits the free exercise of religion to the extent of such prohibition."
Are there any Scientologists in the Australian govt? And does this just happen to coincide with Tom's recent visit down-under?
The head of the Galactic Federation (76 planets around larger
stars visible from here) (founded 95,000,000 years ago, very
space opera) solved overpopulation (250 billion or so per planet,
178 billion on average) by mass implanting. He caused people to
be brought to Teegeeack (Earth) and put an H-Bomb on the
principal volcanos (Incident II) and then the Pacific area ones
were taken in boxes to Hawaii and the Atlantic area ones to
Las Palmas and there "packaged".
His name was Xenu. He used renegades. Various misleading
data by means of circuits etc. was placed in the implants.
When through with his crime loyal officers (to the people)
captured him after six years of battle and put him in an
electronic mountain trap where he still is. "They" are gone.
The place (Confederation) has since been a desert. The length
and brutality of it all was such that this Confederation never
recovered. The implant is calculated to kill (by pneumonia etc)
anyone who attempts to solve it. This liability has been
dispensed with by my tech development.
One can freewheel through the implant and die unless it is
approached as precisely outlined. The "freewheel" (auto-running
on and on) lasts too long, becomes a nigger then dies. So be
careful to do only Incidents I and II as given and not plow
around and fail to complete one thetan at a time.
In December 1967 I knew someone had to take the plunge. I did
and emerged very knocked out, but alive. Probably the only one
ever to do so in 75,000,000 years. I have all the data now, but
only that given here is needful.
One's body is a mass of individual thetans stuck to oneself or
to the body.
One has to clean them off by running incident II and Incident I.
It is a long job, requiring care, patience and good auditing.
You are running beings. They respond like any preclear. Some
large, some small.
Thetans believed they were one. This is the primary error.
Good luck.
Scientology is a dangerous cult
Scientologists have never been too fond of freedom of speech. Hurts their profit margins.
Why, yes! I AM new here.
I don't see why Scientology is interested in the matter. It's not as if they're a religion. They haven't even suggested the protection of pyramid schemes.
From scarped cliff or quarried stone she cries "A thousand types are gone, I care for nothing, no not one."
Do they define 'critical' as every website that speaks negatively about Scientology? By the way: There goes Slashdots anonymous features!
Well, I'm not accusing the Co$ of anything, but if I was a group that uses heavy peer pressure and the fact that as a group I have vastly more resources than any individual, monetary and time-wise, I'd certainly want anonymity stripped away so I know which individuals I'd have to silence to send out a message to other individuals.
I just wish they'd do something like this in Europe. It would do a huge service towards net anonymity, considering how many governments react to pretty much anything the Cult spews.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Australia is probably the absolute worst place for them to push this. 30% to 40% of the population is non-religious, and our mindset is one of "suck it up" with respect to shit like this. This reeks of bully boy tactics and that doesn't sit well with Aussies.
Anyway I doubt it'd pass the Senate for other reasons. Between the Greens, Family First, Liberal, and Labour, 3 of those are strong Christian parties, and the other is strongly secular and radically opposed to censorship.
Anyone reading Scientology material becomes pretty much immune against their brainwash. Its more like a very badly written sci-fi novel than anything else. Letting people read it in a safe enviroment makes recruting more cultists so much harder.
The only way to get rid of stupid cults like Scientology, Christianity and the like is to expose them freely and put them against real knowledge and science. Religion has no place in a modern society.
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If you publish proposals like this as a MS Word document, you should be censored from the internet.
Why do they need to be so litigious? Why can't they just zap critical web sites out of existence with their super high level thetan powers?
I'm hoping it would get Midnight Oil back together, go to the Scientology HQ, and sing in front of the building like they did for Exxon. Of course, there would have to be some sort of connection with the environment for them to take notice or maybe not. Anything to get them recording again.
It's NOT me! It's the meds! I'm on 1000mg of Fukitol.
"If you want to make a little money, write a book. If you want to make a lot of money, create a religion." ~ L. Ron Hubbard
~ Ron Fitzgerald
http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2009/09/03/dm-yscohb/
Mods, you've just blown a point on some GNAA flamebait.
For the real version of "Understanding Scientology" by Margery Wakefield, see http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Library/Shelf/wakefield/us-07.html
You can legally obtain the Satanic Bible without going through a brainwashing course first. Sure, its badly regurgitated pop-philosophy - but at least its not supersekrit religious 'technology'
If we can put a man on the moon, why can't we shoot people for Apollo-related non-sequiturs?
And then immediately pass a law that says Scientology is not a religion.
Remember all those people from /b/ who went on massive protest raids early last year? A few of them are still at it. Head over to www.whyweprotest.net and see about joining in if this upsets you. If a bunch of teenage channers can pull off 10K people protesting worldwide, surely we slashdotters can give them a hand a few times a year and swell their numbers again to the point where Scientology will crumble. They have done massive damage to Scientology, but some greater numbers never hurt. Time to show Scientology you don't fuck around with the web. So grab a plastic mask and find your local protests and try to make the next one. Let's show these scum that enough is enough.
Thanks, CoS, for being the Jack Thompson of the Australian internet censorship debate.
People who support the censoring of the net in Australia are now aligning themselves with the CoS. In every debate which occurs from this date forward, we can link the pro-censorship camp to the CoS and all their inanity. All the repressive future possibilities of the implementation of internet censorship have graduated from mere conjecture by "paranoids" to an actively pursued agenda by a religious organisation.
It is there in writing. The future we fear under a regime of censorhip, being actively pursued for all to see. We may have been called tin-foil hatters or paranoid delusionists, but we were right. More importantly, we've been proven right while it's still not too late to stop it.
This is a great day for anti-censorship campaigners.
CoS, we can hardly thank you enough.
...Because these all involve "Religious vilification".
Unless we all lost our minds and considered Scientology as some sort of religion, rather than a group of Heinlein fanboys who took it waaaaaay too far, none of these would benefit them.
So, nothing to see here, just another Modest Proposal to keep the Kids(tm) safe.
Recommendation 1: Make it illegal to make fun of us so that we have legal grounds to sue.
Recommendation 2: Eliminate Anonymity on the internet so that we know who we can sue.
Recommendation 3: Stop letting the media make fun of us or we will sue.
Recommendation 4: Make a law so that you can not tax us when we sue.
Everybody should be posting on this article Anonymously by the way
A very long time ago, a friend in our share house was given one of their "personality test" questionaires. I asked for a copy too, and got it. Said friend agonised over his questionnaire, and his answers were all over the page. It was a simple mark-sense sheet - remember those? Anyway, I said "watch this..." and I took a ruler and marked every question right down the middle. One to five, I marked three for all of them. I used the right home address, but a false name (my scam-o-meter being active even as a teenager in the late 60's).
I bet my friend my share of the utilities for that month that the "analysis" response would be identical.
The written response we got some days later and indeed, they were identical. I had won. And apparently, we were both "quite unique". And I had the joy of writing "not at this address" on all the mail sent to the false name I gave at that address. Unless they've razed that house, they're probably still getting letter spam.
Biggest damn con on the planet until Nigerian 419 arrived, in my opinion.
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You can legally obtain the Operating Thetan documents, too
Might need an interpreter, though, to make sense of it all - and that's where the brainwashing will begin...
-- Intelligence is soluble in alcohol
"If the document mentioned in the article is truthful, Scientology practitioners have been subjected to criminal activities such as harassment and physical attacks. If so, perpetrators of those acts should be prosecuted under existing law"
What do you mean "IF", they are obviously making it up. Oh the fucking irony of the "church" of CODology complaining about harassment.
davecb5620@gmail.com
I noticed that the document against anonymity was written anonymously. (Names, people. I need names!)
Time to come back for one more round. Cult is dying due to constant pressure of Anonymous and this is a last act of pure desperation to try to get Anonymous off their backs. If you care at all about this and want to do something about this, get yourself a plastic mask and spend a few hours of your time protesting with us. We are at http://www.whyweprotest.net/ Find your local Anonymous cell and when they are protesting and do it. It only takes an afternoon once in a while to make a huge difference. We need your support! If you want to support net freedom, you have to get out of your chair once in a while. I did and I've not regretted it at all.
So pretty much, the Scientologists are pissed because their own tactics are being used against them...
They say that everything in the media and promoted by anonymous is slander but truth is a defense; have they put forward any evidence to contradict what has been said that's not propaganda or are we just meant to take their world for it; we wouldn't have half the current affairs shows we have if organizations had to give their ok beforehand (not necessarily a bad thing tho more time for proper news), If it is only those that are against the organization that are willing to speak you cannot discredit them without speaking out yourself just buy saying no there wrong. You get reputations for a reason and attempting to silence opposition through law will not have the effect of changing opinion; indeed it could only solidify it, only truth can do that through transparency and credibility; and sanity helps.
Probably not the most helpful or coherent post but aw.
In Google we trust.
L. Ron hubbart said one day "If you want to make a little money, write a book. If you want to make a lot of money, create a religion". Then he proceded a few year later to make up the CoS. I guess he really wanted to become rich, whether it was through mroal or immortal ways.
C. Sagan : A demon haunted world:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0345409469/
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You are free to be morons. Just like I am free to say you are morons.
Thank you.
Copyright infringement is "piracy" in the same way DRM is "consumer rape"
"I normally don't respond to flamebait, but someone modded you insightful."
What a coincidence. It's the same reason I'm responding to you.
"Maybe you were reading straight through and didn't finish until you got to the game-changing peace and love hippie stuff?"
If you think Christianity is all hippy peace and love stuff, then I'd suggest you finish reading the Bible, or take a second look. Even in the New Testament, God (and Christ) often got angry and displayed wrath. Jesus wasn't some Ghandi-ish peace and understanding guy. He said that if you didn't believe he was the Messiah, you were in for an eternity of sufferning. He often told people that it was better for them to suffer some horrible Earthly fate than to violate his teachings, because the punishment for that would be worse.
Turn the other cheek? He also said not so nice things.
"He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one." - Luke 22:36
In the book of Matthew, one morning Jesus wakes up and wants some breakfast. He comes to a fig tree, expecting fruit. When he sees the tree has produced none, he becomes angry, and curses the tree, causing it to wither and die, never to produce fruit again.
"And as they passed by in the morning, they saw the fig tree withered away from the roots. And Peter calling to remembrance said unto him, âRabbi, behold, the fig tree which you cursed is withered away." - Mark 11:20
Anyone that thinks Jesus was some hippy "I'm OK, You're OK" kind of guy really has never read the Bible.
Life is hard, and the world is cruel
Remember ARSbomb?
Scientology flooded USENET to keep their documents from being distributed.
However, as someone who believes in freedom, I think we're going to have to extend it to nutty cults. After all, we extend freedom to secular cults who believe 9-11 was an inside job, or that natural selection doesn't exist among humans.
We need to respect that Scientology is a choice, these people aren't morons, and while we (I, at least) disagree with their choice, it's their right.
People have the right to do things we/I think are insane, in other words.
Futurist Traditionalism
You know why that is, don't you? Thetans.
Would you like a slice of toast?
The comment was rated funny because:
1) We assume that everyone here is intelligent
And
2) There isn't a "Dumber than horse shit" rating
-Rick
"Most people in the U.S. wouldn't know they live in a tyrannical state if it walked up and grabbed their junk." - MyFirs
With legal chicanery I mean e.g. leveling a barrage of nuisance lawsuits at an opponent with the objective of bankrupting the victim by forcing him to expend ruinous sums on legal counsel, or alternatively by securing unfounded convictions against the victim where he has been unable to mount an adequate legal defense (See e.g. http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Fishman/Declaration/exhibg.html).
An additional form of chicanery is to drop charges against a victim who does mount an adequate defense in order to avoid unfavorable precedents from being set against the sect (see http://www.rechtspraak.nl/Gerechten/HogeRaad/Actualiteiten/Hoge+Raad+verwerpt+het+cassatieberoep+in+de+zaak+Scientology+providers+en+Spaink.htm (in Dutch)).
Of course the wave of counter-harassment and even threats (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Chanology) goes too far. But what the Cult now pleads for is to introduce a totally ambiguous definition of "Websites created with primary purpose of inciting religious vilification" (read: "anybody who says something to the effect that the Scientology sect is a nasty, dangerous, for-profit outfit") and strip those of anonymity or even the right to exist at all. In plain text: anyone who writes anything against the Scientology cult will now be exposed to harassment lawsuits, career wrecking, and intimidation (see the Fishman affidavit in one of the links above).
The full text of the "recommendations" I reproduce below:
What part of this looks as if it provides any safeguards against the most appalling abuse? Where are the checks and balances? Who determines what is "misinformation", or "incitement of religious vilification"? Would quoting court documents that state the Scientology sect pr
You can download a PDF version of the book here for free. It is out of print.
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Library/Shelf/atack/