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Penny-Sized Nuclear Batteries Developed

pickens writes "Nuclear batteries that produce energy from the decay of radioisotopes are an attractive proposition for many applications because the isotopes that power them can provide a useful amount of current for hundreds of years at power densities a million times as high as standard batteries. Nuclear batteries have been used for military and aerospace applications for years, their large size has limited their general usage. But now a research team at the University of Missouri has developed a nuclear battery the size of a penny that could be used to power micro- and nano-electromechanical systems. The researchers' innovation is not only in the battery's size, but also that the batteries use a liquid semiconductor rather than a solid semiconductor. 'The critical part of using a radioactive battery is that when you harvest the energy, part of the radiation energy can damage the lattice structure of the solid semiconductor,' says Jae Wan Kwon. 'By using a liquid semiconductor, we believe we can minimize that problem.' The batteries are safe under normal operating conditions. 'People hear the word "nuclear" and think of something very dangerous,' says Kwon. 'However, nuclear power sources have already been safely powering a variety of devices, such as pacemakers, space satellites, and underwater systems.'"

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  1. ohhhhh... by 0110011001110101 · · Score: 5, Funny

    so this is what Iran has been up to... now it all makes sense.

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    1. Re:ohhhhh... by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 5, Informative

      Iran has crude oil. What they *don't* have is gasoline...fuel oil...asphalt...and so on. Iran has very little in the way of refining capability (it didn't help that a large chunk of their refineries got blown up in the Iraq-Iran war). In fact, one of the sanctions that's been discussed for Iran is cutting off their gasoline supply.

    2. Re:ohhhhh... by radtea · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "Iran has so much oil, why would they care about nuclear energy?"

      For the same reason Canada does.

      Canada has almost as much oil as Iran and has a large civil nuclear power program. Here in Ontario we get about half our electricity from nuclear power, despite all that oil in Alberta and elsewhere.

      So anyone bringing this point up about Iran is just demonstrating their complete ignorance of the world, and disqualifying themselves from being taken seriously regarding American foreign policy.

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    3. Re:ohhhhh... by jeffasselin · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Even better: burning oil in combustion engines is retarded. We need that oil to power modern industries like plastics and high tech engineering.

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    4. Re:ohhhhh... by Dunbal · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Oh I agree. Having a bomb-making capability is certainly a fringe benefit. However in today's energy-starved world, nuclear power makes sense for ANY nation, and ESPECIALLY for an oil exporting nation. Because if they end up consuming their own exports, what ELSE are they going to export? Sand? Dates?

      There is a valid argument for a nuclear powered Iran without even considering nuclear weapons. But, as you said, having some would certainly be a bonus.

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  2. Cars??? by clonan · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So lets scale these up and replace the power pakcs on cars!

    I would love to be able to drive for a few hundred years between recharges!

    1. Re:Cars??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Haha, yeah. Until Joe Public hears the word "nuclear" and shits a brick.

    2. Re:Cars??? by clonan · · Score: 4, Funny

      We can just say its "nucular" and be all cute like George W.

      The world will never know the truth!

    3. Re:Cars??? by CoolHnd30 · · Score: 5, Funny

      but it seems that a car-sized isotope battery would

      It would be difficult to fit a battery the size of a car into a car....

    4. Re:Cars??? by Big+Hairy+Ian · · Score: 4, Funny

      As with all other batteries just store them in a torch and next time you need them they'll be dead :(

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    5. Re:Cars??? by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 5, Interesting

      So don't call it "nuclear decay." That just sounds bad all around.

      Use a tried and proven practice by inventing a euphemism for "nuclear decay." How about "elemental ebbing," or "EE" for short?

      Joe Public would definitely buy something labeled, "Powered by EE, as in grEEn!"

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    6. Re:Cars??? by Bai+jie · · Score: 5, Interesting

      You know, maybe we need a new word for nuclear. A good old rebranding like corporations do when their name is now met with general public distrust (regardless if the distrust is warranted). We can still call all bombs nuclear, but from now on we should use the term Hydro-Exothermic power plants to describe new power plants. Or something that makes people think of steam instead of ZOMG radiation and bombs.

    7. Re:Cars??? by psydeshow · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Atomic.

      Atomic battery. Seriously, it's all quaint and 1950s. Still a little cool and scary, but also fully controllable.

      Three Mile Island and Chernobyl were Nuclear Power Plants, generating Nuclear Power. We want to build Atomic Energy Stations that generate Atomic Energy. See the difference in how it sounds?

  3. This is impressive by RealErmine · · Score: 5, Funny

    but I would be equally impressed by a penny that was the size of a nuclear power plant.

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  4. Nuclear isn't the problem. by bmo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Everything is safe under "normal conditions"

    The problem is that normal people are fucking stupid. Imagine the shitstorm when someone disassembles one of these to "see what's inside."

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    1. Re:Nuclear isn't the problem. by bmo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Which isn't all that much better with other kinds of batteries.

      It's one thing to clean up after someone drilled a hole in a Lithium battery and had it flame up.

      It's another to decontaminate the livingroom, car, Starbucks counter the guy stopped at for his coffee, etc, because he got liquid radioactive semiconductor on his fingers and wiped it on his pants.

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  5. How much voltage/current? by Air-conditioned+cowh · · Score: 4, Informative

    Just curious. I had a quick look at the University website but couldn't find anything. This article gives a bit more info on it, http://engineering.missouri.edu/news/stories/2009/nuclear-battery-outstanding-at-conference/index.php.

    1. Re:How much voltage/current? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      According to http://nextbigfuture.com/2009/10/liquid-nuclear-battery-that-could-have.html, which quotes the published paper, the battery provides 16.2 nW, has open-circuit voltage of 899 mV, and short-circuit current of 107.4 nA. When they talk about micro- and nano-mechanical applications, they're not kidding. It would take a stack of 61,728,395 of them to provide 1 watt.

  6. This is NOT a battery, it's a RTG by mrnick · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Something that produces energy from the decay of radioisotopes is called a Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generator (RTG) whereas a battery is an array of electrochemical cells for electricity storage.

    3 Mile Island and more recently Chernobyl have our society so afraid of nuclear power, the dreaded China syndrome, that regardless of how safe it becomes we will refuse to adopt it.

    RTG technology is the safest way to produce energy and the greenest energy known to man. It takes something that would otherwise be dangerous and turns it into something productive. NASA uses this technology to power space probes, Voyager-1 is still being powered by one today, and will continue to do so until the year 2025. Plutonium 238 is the best fuel for a RTG, because of its long half-life and the fact that it cannot (yes CANNOT) sustain a chain reaction is somehow any of it started to fuse.

    I looked into this technology when I built a mini robotic submarine in graduate school. But, that's when I found out two things: 1) I would have to submit to an anal probe before the Nuclear Regulatory Commiseration (NRC) would denied me the right to posses any more radioactive material than can be found in about 3 smoke detectors and 2) The room, labeled radioactive storage, in the Science building, where I attended University, with the big yellow radioactive sign is there to impress benefactors and since it lacks a smoke detector contains no radioactive material (LOL).

    Improvements in power generation from nuclear fuel has become pretty safe over the last few years. Pebble bed reactor technology can theoretically remain stable indefinitely even without external cooling, though I don't think that has been put to the test. But, to be a viable energy solution a country really needs to adopt this method on mass because each reactor can only power a portion of a city so to be a major benefit a country would have one of these in everyone's backyard. RTG technology is even safer. It generates energy from the heat that occurs from the natural decay of a nuclear fuel.

    If I could get my hands on say an ounce of Pu 238 I could build a RTG that would power my home, all my vehicles, and enable me to quit my job and live of the check my local electricity provider would have to pay me for the excess power I would generate. It would generate full power for ~ 87 years and not only wold I be using the greenest power available I would be providing a community service of disposing of a radioactive material.

    But, echelon might flag me for even writing this post (looks around nervously)... The irrational fear of a China Syndrome scenario combined with the recent dose of terrorism (fear of dirty bombs) would never allow me to build one, even if I was a nuclear scientist, which I am not.

    So, make an inventory of the smoke detectors you own. If the total is above 3 then you are in possession of enough nuclear material that would require you to get a license from the NRC. If you don't have a license from the NRC and own more than 3 smoke detectors you are likely in possession of an illegal amount of barium and could be flagged as an enemy combative and thanks to George W. Bush enemy combative have no right to any legal representation and can be summarily executed or detained for an indefinite amount of time without even informing anyone that they took you into custody.

    Heck, I don't need smoke detectors that much!

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  7. Nuclear fear by goombah99 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Nuclear materials usually are not very dangerous for their nuclear properties. For most nuclear materials your skin is all the protection you need. You can get irradiated if you ingest it, which is how Nuclear medicines intnetionally work. But in many cases nuclear materials like Plutonium are more toxic as chemicals then they are dangerous as radioactive materials. You would not intentionally eat battery acid either, and evidently people don't do it accidentally very often either. The death rate from plutonium ingestion would presumably be about the same as the death rate from people ingesting car batteries.

    The upside of nuclear materials is that unlike trace chemical contamination, which is hard to find and hard to clean up (e.g. think ancient leaking service station gas tanks contaminating well water), nuclear contamination is easy to find, easy to trace and easy to know when you have cleaned it all up.

    would a single hundred year nuclear battery be less harmful to the enviroment or humans than a hundred years of mercury cadmium telluride hearing aid batteries and all the waste products to mine, produce and transport them?

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  8. Pacemaker power? by dazedNconfuzed · · Score: 5, Interesting

    nuclear power sources have already been safely powering a variety of devices, such as pacemakers

    Considering my pacemaker battery needs replacing every 5 years (and I'm just 41) by cutting into my shoulder, I'd like very much to know more.

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  9. WRONG by noisyinstrument · · Score: 5, Informative

    Something that produces energy from the decay of radioisotopes is called a Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generator (RTG) whereas a battery is an array of electrochemical cells for electricity storage.

    You didn't read the article.

    The batteries use Sulfur-35 which is a beta emitter. Aka, electrons. They do not use thermocouples at all.

    Read about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betavoltaics