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Ten Things Mobile Phones Will Make Obsolete

An anonymous reader writes "recombu.com has an article examining ten things mobile phones will make obsolete, including phone booths, wristwatches and handheld games consoles. It's interesting to see how many devices have been absorbed into mobile phone technology, and it raises the question: are we better off having everything in one device? The author poignantly concludes that while it's great to have so much power at our fingertips, it does mean that some of us will rely on mobile phones for even basic mental tasks, which is great until the battery runs out." See also Isaac Asimov's The Feeling of Power.

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  1. yep... by gandhi_2 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...why have a watch on your wrist when you can fish it out of your pocket.

    At least pocket watches kept the time even if you were out of cell service.

    1. Re:yep... by HeavyD14 · · Score: 5, Informative

      My phone keeps the time just fine when out of reception. Likely better than an old pocket watch. What kind of brick-phone do you have?

    2. Re:yep... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's pretty obtuse to think that wristwatches are going to become obsolete. Hate to break it to you, but no. Wristwatches are far more than just a device to tell time. They're a symbol of status and of self-expression. Don't think so? Wristwatch builders keep pushing the envelope of what is possible with micro-mechanics, and that is what makes them attractive, and special to collectors.

      You think your iPhone is going to get you laid... or any serious street cred? It's within reach of even below-average citizens, so it doesn't get you any status points. No, there's just something about a fine Rolex or Omega Speedmaster on your wrist. A feat of mechanical engineering and precision manufacturing that NO iPhone can *EVER* replace.

      Just try pawning an iPhone and see how much you get.

    3. Re:yep... by Jarik+C-Bol · · Score: 4, Interesting

      i cant stand wearing watches, they make my arm feel all weird. (and they interfere with work gloves, but thats another matter) and since i don't cary my phone at work, (crushed 2 phones in my pockets in 2 months, construction industry is not a phone friendly environment) so i've actually become quite adept at telling the time via shadows, sundial style. (accurate within 10-15 minutes, which is close enough for my needs).

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    4. Re:yep... by houstonbofh · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I just can't wait to take my cell phone SCUBA diving, or wake boarding, or sky diving, or...

    5. Re:yep... by HBoar · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Some modern phones still do not keep the time when out of service. A friend of mine has a cheap Samsung phone which is an example of this. It has always baffled me that a phone with a camera, games and a whole lot of other unnecessary rubbish can't even tell you the time when you go behind a mountain....

    6. Re:yep... by Compholio · · Score: 4, Interesting

      My phone keeps the time just fine when out of reception. Likely better than an old pocket watch. What kind of brick-phone do you have?

      I know that my phone doesn't keep accurate time even with reception and even though I'm just a few miles away from NIST. At the moment it's only off by 10 seconds, but it's been as bad as 3 minutes. My wristwatch, on the otherhand, is guaranteed to be accurate within a 5 second drift over a full year (and it's not a fancy watch). I wouldn't be surprised if the phone manufacturers know that they can get away with using crappy crystal oscillators and just re-syncing the time regularly.

    7. Re:yep... by jamesh · · Score: 5, Insightful

      and will still be chugging along quite possibly when something else comes along to displace the cell phone.

      It occurs to me that at some point in time the core function of the cell phone will be replaced by a device small enough to fit around your wrist...

    8. Re:yep... by theJML · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Actually, the problem that I have is not so much when out of service, it's when too close to the wrong tower...

      I was out of town and in another highly populated area (Knoxville I believe) a while back. The city is right near the boarder of the next time zone and what I found that kept happening is that my cell phone would update it's time according to which tower it connected to, often times the one in the wrong timezone. I had to shut off it's auto syncing and let it drift on it's own during that period.

      I've also found that there are certain towers that just don't sync time, or don't do it well. In these times I'm glad I've got a watch on. I'll also have to agree with the grandparent... I can flick my wrist and check the time in under a second. It takes a good 10 seconds to fish my phone out of my pocket and unlock it, esp if I'm in a car and the pocket isn't at a great angle for phone removal.

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  2. Not wristwatches by chebucto · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have a flip phone that displays the time in large, bold numbers on the outside of the phone and even syncs time automatically. But I still use my wristwatch whenver I'm wearing it, because a) I don't have to fish it out of my pocket, b) it's always right there, unlike my phone which more often than not is out of arm's reach. Not to mention the fact that a watch battery lasts years, unlike the 1 week max the phone battery lasts.

    More generally, I thought the lesson the original iPod taught us was that specialized devices tend to do a much better job than multi-function devices because they allow the UI and features to be specialized for a specific task. Phone cameras, clocks, and other doo-dads are great, but work best as stand-ins for the real thing. They are what you use when you don't have anything better at hand.

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  3. No P&S camera by Gruff1002 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have yet to see a phone that can take anywhere near as good a picture as some of the most basic point and shoot cameras.

    1. Re:No P&S camera by jd · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's next to impossible. Phones need to be very small, lightweight and damage-resistant, the electronics need to be exceedingly low-power and the electronics for the camera and the electronics for the radio transceiver can't conflict.

      That last requirement means is you use digital devices that produce analogue signals, the resolution on the ADC has to be so crappy that the RFI from the radio doesn't screw up the picture AND the voltage changes when a call is picked up or an alarm goes off or what have you can't throw the ADC.

      The low-power means no fancy, power-hungry logic, the software zoom and other floating-point logic won't be terribly high precision, and the image compression algorithm will need to be light on the quality.

      The size and damage-resistance impacts what sort of lens you can use, how rigid the structure has to be, how much the user can just seriously screw up the device before the image quality drops. Even for a disposable standalone camera, it's practical to put in some quite acceptable optics.

      Even when such devices are of a size comparable to that OF the phone, you've got to remember that the camera is sans radio (or radios, for phones that have bluetooth and/or wifi and/or AM/FM tuners as well as the standard phone radio), sans keyboard, sans quite a bit of space-hungry stuff that phones either need or have as "features".

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  4. Five more things mobile p... make obs...e by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    1. Being able to hear the other person clearly.
    2. Ability to have a safe drive.
    3. Going ten minutes in public without hearing some inane tune over and over.
    4. Ability to recognize crazy people as those talking loudly when nobody else is nearby.
    5. Ability for state agents to commit crimes without bystanders having photograph evidence.

  5. One more thing by reboot246 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Humans, after we all die from cell phone radiation.

  6. Re:Rediscovering obsolescence by Cyberax · · Score: 4, Informative

    Asimov - "The Feeling Of Power"

    Can be read here: http://downlode.org/Etext/power.html

  7. A load of BS by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Computers were supposed to get rid of paper and they didn't. Phones won't either.

    Gaming on a phone is awful. Unless that is properly addressed, then the likes of the Nintendo DS won't have to worry and I'm sure Nintendo isn't seeing how many DS units they're selling.

    If I am going to do work during my commute it will be on a laptop or netbook, not a mobile. I suspect a lot of people feel the same way.

    Decent cameras will never go away because a phone will never be able to match the feature set of the camera....even compact ones, imo.

    Watches will always exist, if anything, as a fashion accessory.

    1. Re:A load of BS by Yoozer · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Computers were supposed to get rid of paper and they didn't.

      That's because reading a flickering CRT with the Windows 95 Hot Dog Stand color scheme makes you want to claw your eyes out, and people don't have the sense to keep a document on disk until a final version is made. Also, in meetings, staring at a laptop is rather impolite. E-ink advances and will solve these problems; you only have to wait for the generation that is used to paper to retire.

  8. Convergence. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It really is amazing how many features they keep cramming into these tiny devices. Maybe I'm a dreamer, but I am hopeful that in the next couple of years somebody will figure out a way to make reliable phone calls with these things.

  9. #11 --Free Thought. by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 4, Insightful

    -Not that we can't benefit from free thinkers. We'll just dramatically reduce the number of them available for all the important things our race needs to accomplish. And, I suppose, zombies need free thinkers to manipulate them, (since they're not much good for anything else), so Free Thought is not entirely redundant. But among cell phone users, it's pretty much a dead issue.

    Oh, and if through your muddled thinking, you believe you are taking offense to this, don't worry. That's just the ego programming kicking in. Don't worry about it. You can't do anything about it anyway, except allow it to direct all of your behavior 24/7.

    It's amazingly easy to manipulate the perpetually ignorant and dazed. Good thing I'm not evil. Too bad your masters are.

    -FL

  10. Stones and rocks by El_Muerte_TDS · · Score: 4, Funny

    They also make stones obsolete. I don't long have to throw rocks at a window, I can just throw my phone.

  11. Same Old Song, A Jack of all Trades by dancingmad · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You keep hearing about the things that phones are going to replace and, at least for me, it's never been true.

    I like having a Nintendo DS. The iPhone has not provided a game with the depth of most AAA DS titles. It's lack of buttons is a serious problem with gaming.

    The camera isn't as good as any half way decent point and shoot. I haven't gotten a chance to play with any GPS software for any smart phone, but I hear there are limitations (including the need for cell service) that stand alone GPSes don't have.

    Even the music functions of an iPhone aren't as good as a regular iPod or (gasp, because I love Apple gear) a Zune.

    And yeah, you can use it as a watch, but any fashionable man knows that a watch is how a guy shows off. It's the only acceptable piece of jewelry for the well dressed man.

    Even today's best smart phones are just communications devices with varying degrees of success. Occasionally a smart phone is "good enough" in a pinch; photographers like to say the best camera is the one you have with you, which certainly applies to smart phones. But if I know I want to play games or take pictures, I take my DS or my camera, or whatever. Phones haven't and won't - because each thing needs its own UI and software guidelines, no device is going to be able to do it all well.

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  12. Many features that I don't even want. by NoYob · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Early camera phones where painfully bad but strong sales proved that there was a demand for them.

    When I got my phone, I bought it because it was the cheapest phone that had the ability to see who's calling without having to answer. It so happens to have come with a camera which I never use because it sucks. Now, are the camera manufacturers counting my sale as someone who wanted a camera? Probably. There's a few other features built into the phone that i looked at and never used because I have no use for them.

    That's the thing, there's only so many choices and it's impossible to get a phone that has a feature you want without getting a bunch of features that you don't want. And if you find one, it may not be supported by your cell carrier.

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  13. Re:Not 'til I'm dead, most likely by Yvan256 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Man, I need to get back to work.

    Too late. While you were writing your post, a cellphone took your job.

  14. Wristwatches are just plain convenient by tomhudson · · Score: 5, Funny

    [X] Convenient. You don't have to pull them out of your pocket or purse to see what time it is.
    [X] You can get them dirt cheap (under $10) so if they break, get wet washing the dishes, fall in the toilet - no big deal. Try that with your cell phone.
    [X] One for day and one for evening wear - they are a fashion accessory.
    [X] If they get rained on a bit, big deal. Most are water-resistant.
    [X] It's harder to steal a wristwatch than a cellphone
    [X] It's harder to forget your wristwatch on the roof of your car, at home, or at the office than a cellphone
    [X] I might be convinced to buy a CowboyNeal writstwatch as a joke item, but never a CowboyNeal cellphone.

    1. Re:Wristwatches are just plain convenient by joelgrimes · · Score: 5, Insightful

      [X] wristwatch battery doesn't go dead every 3 days

    2. Re:Wristwatches are just plain convenient by Brian+Gordon · · Score: 4, Funny

      You mean like clothes?

    3. Re:Wristwatches are just plain convenient by MichaelSmith · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Funny story. My dad's girlfriend had a good Seiko watch. It wasn't the proper dive watch but it had a bezel and was good to 100 metres depth or so. They were diving in (I think) Papua New Guinea and after they came to the surface the watch started to hiss and splutter, then the face flew off at high velocity. Good thing she wasn't looking right at it at the time.

  15. I found an 11th thing... by icebike · · Score: 4, Informative

    Another thing you can do on most modern web enabled phones is look up phrases like Begs the Question and see what a fool you are making of yourself prior to posting on slashdot.

    http://begthequestion.info/

    Brought to you by the obligatory and gratuitous grammar snarks.

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  16. Neo-luddite by mewsenews · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The author poignantly concludes that while it's great to have so much power at our fingertips it does mean that some of us will rely on mobile phones for even basic mental tasks, which is great until the battery runs out.

    Poignant? People tried to say the same thing about calculators in the 50s. Tools augment human capability, they can be a crutch but we're a little far from walking in the jungle throwing spears, aren't we?

  17. Re:!begsthequestion by bperkins · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The meaning of the phrase has changed.

    The phrase used to refer to "a logical fallacy in which the proposition to be proved is assumed implicitly or explicitly in the premise."[1]

    Now it means, "I'm trying to sound like I'm well educated, but I'm not."

    [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question

  18. The previous commentors are idiots by ShooterNeo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    People, people, this debate is very simple and obvious.

    For any given electronic device of a given size and cost, a specialty device will always do a better job than a generalist device. A portable ipod is (slightly) better than an iphone. A portable game player such as a PSP or DS is also better than an iphone. Handheld GPS systems, same story. A watch is a better time keeping device than a cell phone, with more time related features. A compact digital camera with a bigger lens is much better than the camera in a phone. And so on and so forth.

    But the point is, for MOST users 99% of the time, the inferior function on your cell phone, especially a cutting edge phone like the iphone or the Droid DOES THE JOB. You only lose a few seconds pulling your phone out rather than looking at your watch. The pictures taken by the camera on the iphone or droid are more than sharp enough for posting to a resolution limited site like facebook. The iphone has a fairly good GPU, and many small and creative 2d games work great on it, so it's almost as entertaining as the PSP or DS. The GPS may be a little fuzzy, but it's usually close enough to find your way around. And so on.

    So, the inferiority of the phone's functions are nearly always MASSIVELY OUTWEIGHED by the fact that you only carry ONE device rather than a whole batman belt worth of them. Size and weight and convenience means that for 99% of users, it's easier and cheaper just to buy a smartphone and use it exclusively for all of the above functions.

  19. Re:12 ways watches are better than cell phones by srussia · · Score: 4, Informative

    The main trigger was about 10 years ago, when I suddenly developed a serious rash on my wrist under the watch. I carried it in my pocket for a week or so, to see what happened. The rash slowly went away, and a doctor told me that he'd seen quite a lot of watch-caused rashes recently. He didn't know what they were putting in or on the metal, but it wasn't anything good.

    You have a nickel allergy.

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