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Ten Things Mobile Phones Will Make Obsolete
An anonymous reader writes "recombu.com has an article examining ten things mobile phones will make obsolete, including phone booths, wristwatches and handheld games consoles. It's interesting to see how many devices have been absorbed into mobile phone technology, and it raises the question: are we better off having everything in one device? The author poignantly concludes that while it's great to have so much power at our fingertips, it does mean that some of us will rely on mobile phones for even basic mental tasks, which is great until the battery runs out." See also Isaac Asimov's The Feeling of Power.
...why have a watch on your wrist when you can fish it out of your pocket.
At least pocket watches kept the time even if you were out of cell service.
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I have a flip phone that displays the time in large, bold numbers on the outside of the phone and even syncs time automatically. But I still use my wristwatch whenver I'm wearing it, because a) I don't have to fish it out of my pocket, b) it's always right there, unlike my phone which more often than not is out of arm's reach. Not to mention the fact that a watch battery lasts years, unlike the 1 week max the phone battery lasts.
More generally, I thought the lesson the original iPod taught us was that specialized devices tend to do a much better job than multi-function devices because they allow the UI and features to be specialized for a specific task. Phone cameras, clocks, and other doo-dads are great, but work best as stand-ins for the real thing. They are what you use when you don't have anything better at hand.
The English word fart is one of the oldest words in the English vocabulary.
I have yet to see a phone that can take anywhere near as good a picture as some of the most basic point and shoot cameras.
1. Being able to hear the other person clearly.
2. Ability to have a safe drive.
3. Going ten minutes in public without hearing some inane tune over and over.
4. Ability to recognize crazy people as those talking loudly when nobody else is nearby.
5. Ability for state agents to commit crimes without bystanders having photograph evidence.
Humans, after we all die from cell phone radiation.
Asimov - "The Feeling Of Power"
Can be read here: http://downlode.org/Etext/power.html
There are several wristwatch cellphones available now.
Computers were supposed to get rid of paper and they didn't. Phones won't either.
Gaming on a phone is awful. Unless that is properly addressed, then the likes of the Nintendo DS won't have to worry and I'm sure Nintendo isn't seeing how many DS units they're selling.
If I am going to do work during my commute it will be on a laptop or netbook, not a mobile. I suspect a lot of people feel the same way.
Decent cameras will never go away because a phone will never be able to match the feature set of the camera....even compact ones, imo.
Watches will always exist, if anything, as a fashion accessory.
It really is amazing how many features they keep cramming into these tiny devices. Maybe I'm a dreamer, but I am hopeful that in the next couple of years somebody will figure out a way to make reliable phone calls with these things.
-Not that we can't benefit from free thinkers. We'll just dramatically reduce the number of them available for all the important things our race needs to accomplish. And, I suppose, zombies need free thinkers to manipulate them, (since they're not much good for anything else), so Free Thought is not entirely redundant. But among cell phone users, it's pretty much a dead issue.
Oh, and if through your muddled thinking, you believe you are taking offense to this, don't worry. That's just the ego programming kicking in. Don't worry about it. You can't do anything about it anyway, except allow it to direct all of your behavior 24/7.
It's amazingly easy to manipulate the perpetually ignorant and dazed. Good thing I'm not evil. Too bad your masters are.
-FL
That's just dandy... where is Clark Kent supposed to change now?
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
...which is probably sooner than I'd prefer, but still a couple of decades away at least.
Wristwatches - I know people who use their phone. My watch is faster, convenient for me. It's a fashion accessory for many (in addition to their fashion phones)
Bedside alarm clocks - I can see this, but until shows the time without me having to touch it (and without it lighting the whole room with the back light), wakes me up with NPR, and increased the light in my room to simulate a sunrise, I'll stick with my beside box. (Okay, two boxes...it's a SunRizr that does the lights)
MP3 players - I'm sure all the iPhone guys are saying "hell yes." I've got a WM phone, and while it does great things the iPhone can't, it sucks donkey balls as a music player. The average phone is going to have to get a lot better - and a lot bigger storage (which will happen "soon") - to take over as my portable player. I'll still keep my SwimP# for the pool though...I don't think many phones would thrive in a aquatic environment.
Landline home phones - Okay, just call me an old fart; I'll probably always have one. The uptime is much better than cell.
Compact digital cameras - they're going to have to get massively better. I'm talking several orders of magnitude. Maybe before I die. Maybe.
Netbooks - keyboards and screens that don't require massive scrolling or a magnifying glass. 'Nuff said.
Handheld games consoles - Hmmmm...not much use for one, so... *shrug*
Paper - sorry, I still print directions and confirmations. This may change. Someday. But I'm awfully attached to dead trees. Probably has to do with my note taking desires, and the aforementioned need for a magnifying glass or scrolling for all but the simplest of things on a phone.
Thinking - The 'net has already made that obsolete. Now get off my lawn...
Man, I need to get back to work.
Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
They also make stones obsolete. I don't long have to throw rocks at a window, I can just throw my phone.
You keep hearing about the things that phones are going to replace and, at least for me, it's never been true.
I like having a Nintendo DS. The iPhone has not provided a game with the depth of most AAA DS titles. It's lack of buttons is a serious problem with gaming.
The camera isn't as good as any half way decent point and shoot. I haven't gotten a chance to play with any GPS software for any smart phone, but I hear there are limitations (including the need for cell service) that stand alone GPSes don't have.
Even the music functions of an iPhone aren't as good as a regular iPod or (gasp, because I love Apple gear) a Zune.
And yeah, you can use it as a watch, but any fashionable man knows that a watch is how a guy shows off. It's the only acceptable piece of jewelry for the well dressed man.
Even today's best smart phones are just communications devices with varying degrees of success. Occasionally a smart phone is "good enough" in a pinch; photographers like to say the best camera is the one you have with you, which certainly applies to smart phones. But if I know I want to play games or take pictures, I take my DS or my camera, or whatever. Phones haven't and won't - because each thing needs its own UI and software guidelines, no device is going to be able to do it all well.
"There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter," Jeeves, (Jeeves and the Impending Doom)
Early camera phones where painfully bad but strong sales proved that there was a demand for them.
When I got my phone, I bought it because it was the cheapest phone that had the ability to see who's calling without having to answer. It so happens to have come with a camera which I never use because it sucks. Now, are the camera manufacturers counting my sale as someone who wanted a camera? Probably. There's a few other features built into the phone that i looked at and never used because I have no use for them.
That's the thing, there's only so many choices and it's impossible to get a phone that has a feature you want without getting a bunch of features that you don't want. And if you find one, it may not be supported by your cell carrier.
It's NOT me! It's the meds! I'm on 1000mg of Fukitol.
Juggling out the cellphone just doesn't have quite the same flair as pausing and then checking your wrist watch for about 5 seconds when the interviewer tells you that 20 hours of overtime a week is "normal" for the position you're interviewing for.
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
[X] Convenient. You don't have to pull them out of your pocket or purse to see what time it is.
[X] You can get them dirt cheap (under $10) so if they break, get wet washing the dishes, fall in the toilet - no big deal. Try that with your cell phone.
[X] One for day and one for evening wear - they are a fashion accessory.
[X] If they get rained on a bit, big deal. Most are water-resistant.
[X] It's harder to steal a wristwatch than a cellphone
[X] It's harder to forget your wristwatch on the roof of your car, at home, or at the office than a cellphone
[X] I might be convinced to buy a CowboyNeal writstwatch as a joke item, but never a CowboyNeal cellphone.
same misconceptions:
I want to a PSP-sized phone to have a decent screen size, and I want to take it off my pocket to check the hour. Of course it should have a full-sized QWERTY keyboard to replace my netbook (not miniaturized like G1) so that I could exercise my writer's hobby on a train, and then they will be so cheap that if I want to give someone a note about some new recipe, I scribble it on my phone and give the phone for them to take (paper replacement).
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Another thing you can do on most modern web enabled phones is look up phrases like Begs the Question and see what a fool you are making of yourself prior to posting on slashdot.
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I'd think any true geek out there would appreciate the mechanical complexity of a quality watch (read: not quartz). Granted they are more jewelry like than actual time reference objects, but when you get out of the low end you can appreciate a lot of fine horology!
-Xen
Poignant? People tried to say the same thing about calculators in the 50s. Tools augment human capability, they can be a crutch but we're a little far from walking in the jungle throwing spears, aren't we?
Either you get the watch, or you don't. I learned to tell time in the second grade and George actually gave me his watch because he didn't know how to tell time and I did (mom and dad made me give it back).
Had a digital watch as soon as they got cheap in the 70s (those of you born in the mid 60s will remember that well, I'm sure), an LCD watch when those got cheap. Bought a new Timex LCD in 1986 and wore it more or less continuously until 2007 when my wife gave me a Tag Heuer self-winding chronograph.
I'll never look back. This watch is a tank, keeps good time and looks fairly smart. Plus NO batteries.
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
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BMO
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...and I still own pliers, files, screwdrivers, a corkscrew, etc., etc. The second part of the saying is "Master of None"
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The meaning of the phrase has changed.
The phrase used to refer to "a logical fallacy in which the proposition to be proved is assumed implicitly or explicitly in the premise."[1]
Now it means, "I'm trying to sound like I'm well educated, but I'm not."
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question
Yeah, its the Asberger's. Since we're on peeves Asberger's is possessive and gets an apostrophe.
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They are discussing AT&T, not their sex life.
Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
Mobile phones can replace a lot of things, but some will persist because they require a specific form factor. Wristwatches, gaming devices, movie players, and paper won't be going away. A mobile phone may emulate them, and that works in a pinch, but these items have a unique shape that augments their function. For a wristwatch it stays on your wrist, for a gaming device it's gaming controls, for a movie player it's a decently large screen, and paper is paper. A cell phone too has a specific form that is necessary for functionality. Blue tooth headsets might alleviate that need, but you'd still need two devices so why bother?
Quantum doesn't mean small, and quantum leap is not meant to imply anything about the magnitude of the change. Rather, it refers to the discontinuous nature of the change
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People, people, this debate is very simple and obvious.
For any given electronic device of a given size and cost, a specialty device will always do a better job than a generalist device. A portable ipod is (slightly) better than an iphone. A portable game player such as a PSP or DS is also better than an iphone. Handheld GPS systems, same story. A watch is a better time keeping device than a cell phone, with more time related features. A compact digital camera with a bigger lens is much better than the camera in a phone. And so on and so forth.
But the point is, for MOST users 99% of the time, the inferior function on your cell phone, especially a cutting edge phone like the iphone or the Droid DOES THE JOB. You only lose a few seconds pulling your phone out rather than looking at your watch. The pictures taken by the camera on the iphone or droid are more than sharp enough for posting to a resolution limited site like facebook. The iphone has a fairly good GPU, and many small and creative 2d games work great on it, so it's almost as entertaining as the PSP or DS. The GPS may be a little fuzzy, but it's usually close enough to find your way around. And so on.
So, the inferiority of the phone's functions are nearly always MASSIVELY OUTWEIGHED by the fact that you only carry ONE device rather than a whole batman belt worth of them. Size and weight and convenience means that for 99% of users, it's easier and cheaper just to buy a smartphone and use it exclusively for all of the above functions.
The meaning of the phrase has changed.
The phrase used to refer to "a logical fallacy in which the proposition to be proved is assumed implicitly or explicitly in the premise."[1]
Now it means, "I'm trying to sound like I'm well educated, but I'm not."
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question
Fortunately, the educated still refer to it as petitio principii, thus distinguishing themselves from those who use the mutable and imprecise vernacular.
I am anarch of all I survey.
I'm 26 and still like making notes on what I'm reading during a meeting. I also go to the physical library for paper books
You can't full-text search a library book, nor can you jot notes in it. Electronic books allow for both: the computer can generate an exhaustive index before you're done reading the first page, and the notes can be stored separately from the text, each section of the notes referring to a section of the text.
I [...] refuse to pay a monthly fee for my mp3 player with apps.
Your iPod Touch or Archos 5 probably has a lithium battery. Lithium batteries have a finite shelf life, and the replacement every couple years is indistinguishable from a monthly fee. Granted, this fee is less than the fee for battery + phone service, but it's still present.
>> 1. GBP 10 is not $10.
My phone was free. Same with my last phone and the one before that.
>> 2. Your cell phone was probably subsidized by your cell phone company, if you bought it new. Try buying a new cell phone without a plan, and no subsidy. they'll be more than $10.
Of course, but that doesn't change that you can get them free from many companies. Can I get a subsidized Rolex anywhere?
>> 3. I don't need to recharge my wrist watch every few days. How many days can you talk on your cell phone run without a recharge?
About a week. Not really an issue unless you're out in the wilderness for a long time, and then I don't give a shit about what time it is.
>> 4. Does your cell phone fit conveniently on your wrist like a watch? Or would you have to duct-tape it?
Having something strapped to my wrist is anything but convenient. It can get caught on stuff, I have to take it off and put it back on several times a day (showers, bed, etc).
>> 5. Is your cell phone as light as a watch?
Pretty damn close if you're talking about a quality mechanical watch + strap. Either way it's not an inconvenience.
>> 6. Can you make calls on your cell phone without some sort of plan, even if it's pay-as-you-go? I can still tell time with my watch - no plan needed.
That's retarded. I can tell time without a plan but a watch can never make a call.
>> 7. My watch doesn't have "dead zones" where it stops telling time. Does your cell phone have dead zones where you can't make calls?
No. I've never owned a phone that wouldn't tell the time without service. I'm sure such a braindamaged phone does exist, but that's not the norm.
>> 8. I don't have to worry about my watch interrupting an important meeting with an embarrassing ring-tone.
Ever owned a digital watch with an alarm? They do the same thing.
>> 9. If someone steals my watch, I don't have to worry that they have a lot of my contacts.
Password protect your phone or don't store your contacts in there if you're so paranoid.
>> 10. A thief can't run u a big bill for me on my watch.
Not an issue if you cancel your plan when you notice your phone's missing.
>> 11. I don't have to back up my watch.
I also don't have to back up my cat. Doesn't mean it's relevant to the discussion.
>> 12. It's legal to look at my watch while driving.
Your car doesn't have a clock? Why would you need to look at either of them to tell the time?
1. GBP 10 is not $10.
2. Your cell phone was probably subsidized by your cell phone company, if you bought it new. Try buying a new cell phone without a plan, and no subsidy. they'll be more than $10.
It doesn't matter, I already purchased it for use as a mobile communication device and I already carry it everywhere for means for mobile communication. It's cost is totally immaterial to whether or not I would want to use it as a time-keeping device.
3. I don't need to recharge my wrist watch every few days. How many days can you talk on your cell phone run without a recharge?
This is immaterial, as I keep my cell phone charged for use as a mobile communication device. Any other functions it also serves is simply one less battery I have to charge (or change annually, as it were with a watch)
4. Does your cell phone fit conveniently on your wrist like a watch? Or would you have to duct-tape it?
5. Is your cell phone as light as a watch?
I hate having things on my wrist, but since I keep my cell phone on my person at almost all times anyway, this is also immaterial.
6. Can you make calls on your cell phone without some sort of plan, even if it's pay-as-you-go? I can still tell time with my watch - no plan needed.
No, but I can still tell time on my phone without a plan. But I've had a cell phone plan uninterrupted for almost 10 years. You make a good argument for having a mobile timekeeping device around in case of nuclear winter or total economic collapse. I keep one in a drawer in my laundry room. Shouldn't this suffice in the unlikely event the world economy crumbles?
7. My watch doesn't have "dead zones" where it stops telling time. Does your cell phone have dead zones where you can't make calls?
My cell phone doesn't have "dead zones" where it stops telling time. It does have "dead zones" where it ceases to function as a mobile communication device. It is always more than adequate as a time-keeping device, however.
8. I don't have to worry about my watch interrupting an important meeting with an embarrassing ring-tone.
I'm glad hear that you choose to use an embarrassing ring-tone. I don't and I turn my phone on "silent" during meetings. I would continue to do this if I had a wrist watch. I would also continue to do this if I didn't have a wrist watch. Wait... when did ring tones have ANYTHING to do with this discussion about time-keeping? Are you telling me that you're fundamentally opposed to the concept of a telephone because you might be interrupted? Interesting......
9. If someone steals my watch, I don't have to worry that they have a lot of my contacts.
10. A thief can't run u a big bill for me on my watch.
11. I don't have to back up my watch.
And again... this has nothing to do with time-keeping. Are you fundamentally opposed to the concept of a mobile communication device? I find them quite useful. I imagine it's hard to conduct business these days with that attitude. How have you managed?
12. It's legal to look at my watch while driving.
This might be the only good point in this whole rant. But my car has an accurate clock and it IS separate from the radio and "always on" (even when the ignition is off--- even when the battery is too dead to start the car).
I have both a cell phone and a watch. Each one has its own place. Maybe you've heard of the concept - "right tool for the job."
A long time ago, there was this thing called a 'typewriter'. There was a different thing called a 'computer'. They served totally different purposes. A lot of people swore by both of them.
Then one day, someone created an attachment for the computer and some software that allowed it to do the work of a typewriter.
I often don't WANT my cellphone anywhere near me. No, turning it off isn't sufficient; I don't want the bastard anywhere on my person. I rarely feel the same way about my watch.
The main trigger was about 10 years ago, when I suddenly developed a serious rash on my wrist under the watch. I carried it in my pocket for a week or so, to see what happened. The rash slowly went away, and a doctor told me that he'd seen quite a lot of watch-caused rashes recently. He didn't know what they were putting in or on the metal, but it wasn't anything good.
You have a nickel allergy.
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