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Man "Beats" World of Warcraft

Precision pointed out that a Taiwanese man has been named the first ever person to successfully beat World of Warcraft, getting all 986 achievements, completing 5906 quests and /hugging 11 players. Insert joke here. There are many.

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  1. Of course by snowwrestler · · Score: 5, Funny

    How can you kill that which has no life??

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    1. Re:Of course by verbalcontract · · Score: 2, Funny

      Scroll over him with your mouse cursors and... right-click!

    2. Re:Of course by cashman73 · · Score: 4, Funny

      What's his Slashdot UID?

    3. Re:Of course by Dremth · · Score: 3, Funny

      This just might be the end of the world... of Warcraft.

    4. Re:Of course by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm not sure why your short attention span is any more admirable. I might agree that this particular persons priorities are difficult to understand, but no more than most MIT applicants, or football stars, or that girl who has given head to over a dozen different guys by the time she was 15. Reasonable people assume "all things in moderation" is the correct way to live life, however there's really no proof that this is correct.

    5. Re:Of course by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Funny

      The more appropriate question is "How do you win, but still lose?"

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    6. Re:Of course by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Maybe he should write a book. Here's the title: "How to win and still be a loser".

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    7. Re:Of course by war4peace · · Score: 2, Funny

      I don't know, but he's not the first. The first ever to beat the game was Chuck Norris. Remember this, or else!

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    8. Re:Of course by MiniMike · · Score: 4, Informative

      You forgot the ".. for idiots".

    9. Re:Of course by morgauxo · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hmm... Let me guess... 1

    10. Re:Of course by B1oodAnge1 · · Score: 3, Funny

      I moderate excessively too!

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    11. Re:Of course by anyGould · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Agreed - the difference seems to be "did you become rich and/or famous". No one mocks the hockey stars who spent every waking hour at the rink.

    12. Re:Of course by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's because once you see the string tied to the carrot on one end and the stick on the other, the carrot just doesn't seem as tasty. Playing a game with no "real" end in sight just doesn't seem rewarding to me.

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    13. Re:Of course by master_p · · Score: 4, Funny

      0.

    14. Re:Of course by Luyseyal · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I guess these "1" people are suggesting that this Taiwanese guy is secretly CmdrTaco engaging in some sort of highly obfuscated navel-gazing exercise.

      +1 Interesting

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    15. Re:Of course by Jake+Griffin · · Score: 2, Informative

      But there IS an end! All you have to do is get all 986 achievements and complete 5906 quests!!

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    16. Re:Of course by QuantumLeaper · · Score: 2, Informative

      Until the next patch come out, all new achievements.

    17. Re:Of course by mweather · · Score: 3, Insightful

      All things in moderation, including moderation - Mark Twain

    18. Re:Of course by 2names · · Score: 5, Funny

      No one mocks the hockey stars who spent every waking hour at the rink.

      Oh yes we do.

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    19. Re:Of course by JackCroww · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm moderately excessive.

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    20. Re:Of course by MBGMorden · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The trick is to use it as a social tool. I have a lot of friends in WoW. Lately I've taken a bit of a break (okay I haven't touched it in 4 months), but I still hangout on the guild's forums and facebook to keep in touch ATM. When I'm ready and work clams down again I'll be running instances and such with them again.

      Repetitive? Kinda. But honestly life is repetitive. Friday nights I typically go out to some bars with friends. We talk, maybe play some pool, and drink. Same thing almost every Friday. Saturdays we typically just hang out at someone's house. Talk, joke, drink. Sometimes watch a football game - as if that isn't repetitive. Line up in formation, throw or run ball until you run out of downs or score. Rinse and repeat for a few hours. This happens several times a week during the in-season and has done the same dance for decades now.

      Thing is, the people who enjoy these activities generally don't go cross-eyed looking for some deeper meaning becuase they're fine acccepting that there is none - and there doesn't need to be. Just hanging out with people can be fun in and of itself. Whether you're kicked back watching a game with your buds or kicked back killing kobolds, you can still have fun.

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    21. Re:Of course by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 4, Interesting

      And unfortunately the "sub games" are variations of "deliver item X to so-and-so" or "kill X amount of monster Z". Yawn.

      It's the getting there that makes it fun, not the accomplishment. Last night we had a good run, and we're finally up to the last boss in Ulduar. It's not the highest and it's not the lowest, and the accomplishments were frosting on the cake. And nobody really cared all that much about the gear that dropped.

      What did happen was the execution of a carefully planned approach using a refined strategy with a group of ten friends you can depend on to carry out the tactics well. It involved discussion, a couple of wipes, refined approach, then finally success against Thorim. That was hugely fun.

      This is not simple carrot and stick. The win took a lot of thought, a lot of communication and some fairly fast and furious in-game action, a few close calls and some very close timing. If you see WoW as nothing but a level/achievement grind, then you're playing it wrong. It's all about the people you play with, not the counters, that make it fun. And an arbitrary challenge is still a challenge, isn't it? Otherwise you'd have to give up on all games and sports. What a dull life that would be.

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    22. Re:Of course by Jim_Maryland · · Score: 2, Interesting

      is this the other 10% exception to what I was talking about? Because I get the feeling to get to that part, you are doing the carrot and stick the other 90% of the time.

      Depends how much you play and how you play. If you limit your playing to the leveling part of the game and don't play much at level 80 (or the new top level when the expansion comes out), then yes, 90% of your time could be chasing that carrot. If you make it to level 80 then spend most of your time in instances raiding with friends taking on challenges of the game (speed kills, attempting hard modes, etc...), then the 10% you refer to could become a larger portion of the time toward playing the game. Blizzard has done a bit to speed up the leveling process, but it does still take some amount of time. If you are a new player, it may seem to take forever, but once you get one character to 80, you generally know other people that can help you get there faster (power leveling through instances for example and help with harder quest). You'll also have special gear that you can send to your low level characters that will increase leveling so you aren't finding yourself killing the same X monsters to deliver to Y NPC for long.

    23. Re:Of course by dan828 · · Score: 2, Funny

      In a row?

    24. Re:Of course by CalSolt · · Score: 2, Interesting

      He did become famous. Just now. When was the last time something you did personally was reported on by the world media? I'm not saying that your criticism is misplaced, just that you're using the wrong argument. More significant than becoming rich or famous is whether you have done anything worthwhile and the answer in this case is no.

  2. Relevence by conureman · · Score: 5, Funny

    Something I can tell my kid that won't get a "meh". Cool.

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    1. Re:Relevence by ubrgeek · · Score: 5, Funny

      > Something I can tell my kid that won't get a "meh".

      Isn't that one of the achievements, too? ;)

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  3. Gratz by sparhawktn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Wonder how many "people" this man really is

    1. Re:Gratz by davidbrit2 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Wonder how many "people" this man really is

      Zero. We've lost him.

  4. Does he have all the best gearr by Psychotic_Wrath · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If he doesn't have all the best gear then I wouldn't say he has beaten it yet. But that is quite an achievement what he has done.

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    1. Re:Does he have all the best gearr by eldavojohn · · Score: 4, Informative

      If he doesn't have all the best gear then I wouldn't say he has beaten it yet. But that is quite an achievement what he has done.

      Here's his gear and stats and achievements and PvP and all that. I wish I knew his /played though.

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    2. Re:Does he have all the best gearr by Major+Blud · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah, he better have the Sword of a 1000 Truths.

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    3. Re:Does he have all the best gearr by batquux · · Score: 5, Funny

      So he's only done this with one race/class combo. What a n00b!

    4. Re:Does he have all the best gearr by Shadyman · · Score: 5, Funny

      So, wait. He's got 165/164 achievements in PvP and 138/139 World Event achievements? Hmmm... He doesn't have "BB King" from Winter Veil. Pwned already by upcoming events!

    5. Re:Does he have all the best gearr by biryokumaru · · Score: 2, Insightful

      He has a deprecated achievement, and does not have an upcoming achievement. So those numbers are accurate.

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    6. Re:Does he have all the best gearr by richdun · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yeah try getting all that with a mage or (insert whiny "can haz buffz?" race / class combo here)!

      But seriously, check out his Feats of Strength. He may have "only" done this on one race / class combo, but he's pretty done everything a druid could / should do. Realm firsts on nearly every Wrath raid boss that gives a feat, high arena ranking last season (probably explains the tree off-spec), has Atiesh, and did holidays before holidays gave achievements. Impressive, if not insanely time consuming. (also - no "the Insane" feat? Psh...)

    7. Re:Does he have all the best gearr by TheLink · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And in the final analysis what will most of us have achieved in our "real" lives?

      Nothing really much.

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    8. Re:Does he have all the best gearr by Mozai · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You can get a guess from his achievements. 5906 quests completed, at an average of 14.55 quests per day = 405.9 days played. Probably 405.9 days online with the game, since he's got achievements from events that were over a year ago.

    9. Re:Does he have all the best gearr by sofar · · Score: 2, Informative

      I think it's a fake, and I know of one achievement he doesn't have (perhaps wowarmory doesn't even know them):

      it takes at least 5 kills over Argent Confessor Paletress to get an achievement for killing at least 5 different nightmares. He's only killed this boss once according to his stats page.

      other achievements also show incomplete but granting him the achievement points (turkey rogue shooter one for instance).

      looks like a giant glitch on blizzards site, and so I'm not trusting his page (not that it isn't impressive, but he certainly hasn't *beat* wow just yet).

    10. Re:Does he have all the best gearr by WarlockD · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You DID look at his stats right? He respected his tree 223 times and obviously has duel spec.and every damn time he went into a raid he probability respected back. Humm.

      The "Feats of Strength" are much more telling. It looks like he made this character at 10-23-2008. He must of gotten a refer a friend because he jumped up to 80 within that month AND "technically" completed the game by the end of that year. He also must have mutipul accounts. See all the "collectors edition" pets? He wanted his main to have all those. The rest of this thing looks like he was just waiting for the world events to open and do some of the higher end raids. This guy was on the ball from day one. He was probably stuck at "Trial of the Champion" for a bit, but it looks like he got all his rep for EVERYTHING in the mean time. Once he got TotC, he hit the heroics in order.

      I bet his guild was all in it too. No way you can burn though all those raids without good planing. Hell, look at some of the other Feats of Strength. ALOT of relm firsts on that first month he started. Humm.. His guild decided to start at that new server and completely own it.

      Lets be frank though. I farm for achievements myself, but evey one of these things are easy to get. All of them just require patience and since most people need rep anyway, can be done with friends. This guy is not some anti-social nutjob who did this "on his own" A group of people decided to go in with him, support him to get this fair.

      Besides, it might not be the original questions intention, but your right. You haven't really "completed" the game untill you do this with each character/class combination on both sides:)

    11. Re:Does he have all the best gearr by PotatoFarmer · · Score: 2, Informative

      The "Feats of Strength" are much more telling. It looks like he made this character at 10-23-2008. He must of gotten a refer a friend because he jumped up to 80 within that month AND "technically" completed the game by the end of that year

      The achievement system went live on 10/23/08, so anything he had accomplished prior to that date would have registered as completed then. Note the multiple world event achievements from 2007 in that list as well as Atiesh, which would have been impossible to complete in such a short time frame.

  5. Ancient proverb by hexed_2050 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Man's level and experience in MMORPG is reversely proportional to level and experience in real life.

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    1. Re:Ancient proverb by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Funny

      Man's level and experience in MMORPG is reversely proportional to level and experience in real life.

      Kinda like slashdot mod points ;-)
           

    2. Re:Ancient proverb by thePsychologist · · Score: 3, Informative

      You mean "inversely".

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    3. Re:Ancient proverb by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 3, Informative

      You mean "inversely".

      No. He means reversely. If he has 80 levels in Wow, it means he has -80 levels IRL, not 1/80.

  6. To Everyone... by whisper_jeff · · Score: 4, Insightful

    To everyone who's about to make a "get a life" joke, may I remind you, you're about to post on a geek news website. While the level of dedications required to achieve this probably does mean this guy doesn't get out often, I'd wager that many of us here aren't all that different and could probably use lives of our own...

    1. Re:To Everyone... by houghi · · Score: 3, Funny

      Get a life.

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    2. Re:To Everyone... by eln · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Sure, you probably don't have a lot of social butterflies on this site, but I'd wager that very few of them are really the reclusive shut-in that you would have to be to accomplish such a feat. There are levels of obsession with anything, and this guy's case seems pretty extreme by any measure. I can't even imagine the amount of time this sort of thing would take, and how many other things he could have been doing.

      I don't want to sit around mocking this guy for this, but I do feel sorry for him. After all, after his own personal sense of accomplishment over this feat has faded, he's going to be left looking back at all the time he spent on it, and the fact that he ultimately has nothing of any value to show for it. That can be very depressing.

    3. Re:To Everyone... by Thoughts+from+Englan · · Score: 2, Funny

      I tried to get a life once but I just ended up with celular automata

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    4. Re:To Everyone... by Pharmboy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Karma whoring at it's finest. Some of us run departments, play on Facebook, have successful marriages, fish on the weekends, visit with family regularly, and still have the time to hit slashdot, simply because it saves us time by consolidating tech news.

      I know its fun for /.ers ourselves lonely losers, but in reality, most of the readers are likely quite successful in one way or another, or all the "your rights online" and quazi-political articles and such would be meaningless.

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    5. Re:To Everyone... by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Funny

      fish on the weekends

      Hah! There you slipped! You're talking about the fishing contests in WoW!

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    6. Re:To Everyone... by lastchance_000 · · Score: 5, Funny
      This seems relevant...

      William Shatner: You know, before I answer any more questions there's something I wanted to say. Having received all your letters over the years, and I've spoken to many of you, and some of you have traveled... y'know... hundreds of miles to be here, I'd just like to say... GET A LIFE, will you people? I mean, for crying out loud, it's just a TV show! I mean, look at you, look at the way you're dressed! You've turned an enjoyable little job, that I did as a lark for a few years, into a COLOSSAL WASTE OF TIME!

      [ a crowd of shocked and dismayed Trekkies.... ]

      I mean, how old are you people? What have you done with yourselves?

      [ to "Ears" ] You, you must be almost 30... have you ever kissed a girl?

      [ "Ears" hangs his head ]

      I didn't think so! There's a whole world out there! When I was your age, I didn't watch television! I LIVED! So... move out of your parent's basements! And get your own apartments and GROW THE HELL UP! I mean, it's just a TV show dammit, IT'S JUST A TV SHOW!

    7. Re:To Everyone... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I can't even imagine the amount of time this sort of thing would take, and how many other things he could have been doing.
      I don't want to sit around mocking this guy for this, but I do feel sorry for him. After all, after his own personal sense of accomplishment over this feat has faded, he's going to be left looking back at all the time he spent on it, and the fact that he ultimately has nothing of any value to show for it. That can be very depressing.

      The same can be said about every Olympic or World Champion in just about any sport. It might also be applied to people who spend every hour of every night for years building their own hot rod or ships in bottles or whatever.
      In fact it can be said about every living human being who choose to do something different from what you choose to do with your time. "They should get a life."
      Nobody else ever has anything to show for how they have spent their time that has any value to me. I was born, I know that I will die, what's inbetween is mine.

    8. Re:To Everyone... by nine-times · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It might also be applied to people who spend every hour of every night for years building their own hot rod or ships in bottles or whatever.

      You might even argue that it applies to people who work their whole lives to achieve fame and fortune. It's not uncommon for those people to neglect some of their personal relationships or have other parts of their lives suffer. Often enough, they end up losing their fortune to some degree or failing in other pursuits. Eventually, sooner or later, those people will die anyway, and it's not clear that they're better off in death than any of us. It's all pointless from a certain perspective.

      So cheer up, all you WoW players. Your WoW-filled lives aren't any worse than a guy who has millions of dollars and bangs supermodels!

    9. Re:To Everyone... by denmarkw00t · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Okay, but I think far more people would find value in a handcrafted ship-in-a-bottle, or a hot rod built by hunting down the parts needed, taking the time to learn the engineering, and applying that into a working restoration of a vehicle. On top of that, these things also tend to carry value both socially and monetarily, as well as a sense of accomplishment that actually carries on past the "fading" point likely to be felt with the WoW accomplishment. Doing things like building a car or a house or spending months perfecting a masterpiece of oil and canvas open people up to more social exposure than, say, having some friends over to check out your paladin. You can drive your hot rod, take it to shows, hell even be a guest speaker in an auto-mechanics class. A composition of music could be enjoyed for hundreds of years by audiences you never imagined. Your WoW account, however, will likely not be heralded as a feat of great accomplishment outside of a small community of others seeking to achieve in even the modest task which is their charge: level up.

    10. Re:To Everyone... by nameer · · Score: 2, Informative

      No, its an SNL skit. I was Shatner. http://snltranscripts.jt.org/86/86hgetalife.phtml

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    11. Re:To Everyone... by Dg93 · · Score: 2, Informative

      You might want to learn to use the google before you spout off, you might find out that this quote is from a 1986 appearance on Saturday Night Live by William Shatner, which predates galaxy quest by about 13 years.

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    12. Re:To Everyone... by ShakaUVM · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Uh, what do you mean he won't be heralded as a great achiever? There's a front page story about him on Slashdot, which is more fame than your hypothetical ship-in-a-bottle builder will ever see.

      Even IF all the posts on here are mocking him. William Hung is famous too, right?

    13. Re:To Everyone... by RJBeery · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And when you complete your hot rod or your oil painting will it be a newsworthy event? The fact that we're all discussing this guy and that I just spent a few minutes studying his profile (and I don't even play WoW!) is testament against your point.

    14. Re:To Everyone... by Sprouticus · · Score: 5, Insightful

      ahh but ther point you make assume I place the same value on those things as everyone else. If I choose to place value on other things, then your opinion is not valid in MY eyes.

      Ships in a bottle are a waste of time, get a life
      Sports are a waste of time, get a life.
      Making money is a waste of time, get a life.
      Going to bars to meet girls is a waste of time, get a life
      Sex is a waste of time, get a life.

      All of these are transient, as are all things. You can argue some have more value than others but that value is relative to the people involved. It is primarily a cultural and societal construct.

      We can argue that pursuits which return goods or money may have more value for basic every day needs (food, water, shelter, etc) but that is not really what we are talking about here. You can also argue that even those have no real value in the long run. Same with sciene or art. In 20,000 years the Beatles wont matter.

      How is an olympian served by the dogged pursuit of a gold mdeal in cross country skiing. Longer life...MAYBE. But in reality moderate excersise along with using the extra time to make $$ for your health care and housing in the future is probably better in that regard.

      Simply put, do what YOU love, fuck the rest of the world. Most people are idiots anyways.

    15. Re:To Everyone... by snuf23 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "at least you have a ship in a bottle."

      Which is useful in what way? If the goal is to acquire a ship in a bottle you can save your time and buy one already assembled.
      Clearly the point of making a ship in a bottle is the challenge of the task and enjoyment one derives through the process.
      The only real value of the resulting ship in a bottle is as a memento to remind you of the process you went through to make it.

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  7. I beat it ages ago by unbug · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I stopped playing.

    1. Re:I beat it ages ago by Daetrin · · Score: 5, Funny

      A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.

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    2. Re:I beat it ages ago by BJ_Covert_Action · · Score: 5, Funny

      High Five brother. I beat a 2.5 year long WoWcrack addiction myself years ago. I still remember it like it was yesterday. Those long, back-knotted nights of failed Stratholme runs and epic fails. Noobs causing my blood pressure to rise exponentially in the Arathi Highlands....The cold chills of the 4 AM morning air nipping at my underwear-shod body, the only thing driving my spirit was the pipe dream of epic loots and bragging rights in Ironforge. Before Illidan. Before Arthas. Back when you knew how dedicated a WoW player was based on how high their fishing skill was....

      *shudder*

      I was one of the few ones lucky enough to turn away from that hell with my life still intact. I feel a bond with others I meet that were able to do the same. Stand strong my friend...relapse is easy.

    3. Re:I beat it ages ago by BobMcD · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I was one of the few ones lucky enough to turn away from that hell with my life still intact. I feel a bond with others I meet that were able to do the same. Stand strong my friend...relapse is easy.

      Since it seems you're being serious, I'd like to respectfully disagree.

      World of Warcraft is a social game played via the internet. The degree of 'hell' you endure is completely, totally, entirely a product of the choices YOU make. The degree of addiction you suffer attached to the game is likewise a product of YOUR OWN deficiencies. To lay all the blame of your unhappiness on this or any video game is completely irresponsible.

      If you find dealing with random people on the internet to be unbearable, look into personality training. If you find internet games to be an addictive force that dominate your life, look into self-control/addiction support.

      Meanwhile thank God you didn't accidentally wander into a casino or a crack house instead.

      To be clear - I feel you've made the right choice, but I feel that placing the responsibility on the game itself undermines the millions of people who have not lost their lives to it.

    4. Re:I beat it ages ago by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I don't see where the parent was blaming the game. He said he beat the addiction and was glad to do so, and gave details on how strong the addiction could be.

      How is that blaming the game?

      If anything he owned up to it. It seems to me you're being very mean to person simply because he succumbed in the past to an addiction. There, but for the grace of God, go a lot of people. Having a predilection to weakness is called being human, and if you are going to bash someone who is willing to expose a weakness that he _overcame_ then perhaps you are the one who should seek personality training.

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    5. Re:I beat it ages ago by frenchgates · · Score: 3, Insightful

      In the immortal words of Foghorn Leghorn, I say, I say, slow down there, boy! Do you have a bone to pick with the idea of addiction as a disease as opposed to a personal failing? It's a legitimate topic for debate, but the poster didn't make a statement one way or the other. Or are you a WoW fanboi leaping to its defense reflexively? Because the poster never really disparaged the game either, just his own experiences playing it.

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    6. Re:I beat it ages ago by BobMcD · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I can be mean, to be sure, and would really appreciate any personality input you may offer. But I think you're just not reading the same inflection on the words that I am.

      I was one of the few ones lucky enough to turn away from that hell with my life still intact.

      Either this is hyperbole, or you're the one reading it wrong.

      This is what I read:

      one of the few ones

      This statement implies that only the minority 'escape'. This implies, in turn, that is normal to be unable to escape, or otherwise the majority would be able to do so.

      lucky enough

      This implies that only enough luck allows you to escape. Not differences in individuals, choices, etc - just chance. Use of the word 'luck' implies that this is a rare and fortuitous occasion.

      with my life still intact

      In the context here, the statement is that the 'hell' frequently renders lives no longer in tact.

      Now its your turn. Show me where the parent owns up to anything at all. Because whatever you're seeing, I really did miss it, and it seems I have something to learn here.

  8. What an achievement ! by princessproton · · Score: 3, Funny

    Can I just be the first to say..."WoW!"

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  9. There's still only one master of WoW by Madman · · Score: 2, Funny

    Liiiiiitttttllllllleeeee Grrrrreeeeeeyyyyyyy!!! just doesn't have the same ring as LEERROOOOOOOOOOOY JEEEEENNNKKKIIIINNNSSS!!!!

  10. Re:Sense of purpose by Shadyman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just wait until the next expansion comes out.

  11. Re:insert joke here by Stele · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What does homosexuality have to do with it?

  12. Re:Damn by ByOhTek · · Score: 2, Funny

    Probably? This post seems rather defensive of it, to me. I bet it's NoYob.

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  13. I know someone... by purpledinoz · · Score: 5, Funny

    I know someone that finished reading the Internet.

    1. Re:I know someone... by smallfries · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, happens to me a few times a day. May I should add more feeds...

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  14. Re:All those achivements ... by Dan667 · · Score: 2, Funny

    RL stands for reaking liches right?

  15. Re:I wonder if any of the 11 hugged him back.... by hollywench · · Score: 2, Funny

    :p Not likely, if he was going for the achievement where you /hug a dead player..

  16. Re:insert joke here by Korin43 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Maybe gay people are invincible? That could explain why people are afraid of them.

  17. I call BS by SomeJoel · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I quit WoW several months ago, but I know for a fact there are achievements for "Server First Max Skill XXX" where XXX is some tradeskill. I contend that is impossible for one player to become the server's first max skill leatherworker, blacksmith, alchemist, enchanter, and engineer (plus there's a few more) so there is no possible way he could attain "ALL" the achievements.

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    1. Re:I call BS by BobMcD · · Score: 2, Informative

      I think those are Feats of Skill, rather than Achievements.

    2. Re:I call BS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Those are called "feats of strength" and don't count towards total achievements.

    3. Re:I call BS by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 2, Informative

      There are also certain items that you can no longer acquire, quests no longer doable, and until the next expansion, the old Honour system ranks. Essentially if you've started playing after a certain time you can't do certain things.

      Likewise, in some world events, only 1 person can obtain the final quest reward (like opening the door to AQ).

      There are lots of restrictions to the game that make it impossible for various players to do everything.

      I think given the circumstances, this guy HAS done it all.

  18. It never ends by diamondsw · · Score: 2, Funny

    Patch 3.3 comes out Tuesday.

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  19. Re:Sense of purpose by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Funny

    See if your shower still works?

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  20. Re:Deaths by Microlith · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And that's one of many reasons WoW has a huge audience compared to most MUDS and RPGs: they don't punish the player horribly for dying.

    I think dying and losing a level would be enough of a setback to drive much of WoW's audience away. You'd end up with considerably more people who can actually play the game at the level cap, but for Blizzard it'd crimp revenues.

  21. Re:Deaths by dingen · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's also the reason why WoW isn't really a proper game: you can't lose. Everything you do is okay and nothing can go wrong. Sure you can be killed, but you just get the chance to try again or try something else without being set back at all.

    This makes WoW more of a social platform wrapped in a virtual world than an actual game.

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  22. Tonight on Fox News by Lieutenant+Buddha · · Score: 5, Funny

    Taiwanese man inspires Christians around the world with his story of how he committed his life to abstinence.

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  23. I fear the day by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ya know, MMOs have life cycles. They get born, they age, they eventually die. Eventually, the company running it will pull the plug. Be it because it's not profitable anymore to keep it running, or be it because they want to "convince" their players to come to their new MMO.

    Yes, there's EQ and UO (and Meridian for you Great Old Ones), but face it, they're little more than hollow shadows of what they used to be.

    Every MMO in its history met a terminal expansion. No, I don't mean the last one. I mean the one that kills the game. That convinces the players (at least those that still have a life) that it's just not worth it. DAoC managed it with Trials of Atlantis, SWG had its Jump to Lightspeed (aside of other troubles), eventually every maker of MMOs fucks something up and people leave.

    I fear the day this happens in WoW. It will happen. Certainly not for the next year or two, and I'm quite sure that two or three expansions will still be in the fold for WoW. But eventually, the game mechanics will break apart (they're creaking already when you look at the wiring under the board).

    And I quietly wonder what will happen to the WoW addicts that suddenly lose the last bits of meaning their life has...

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    1. Re:I fear the day by Opportunist · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm not so sure about that. EQ was a game that gamers played. They were used to shifting from one game to the next, EQ kept them playing longer than the average game because of the carrot-on-a-stick MMOs usually dangle before you. My guess is they knew that eventually this game will go just like every other game they played before did. Eventually.

      WoW is very different in the respect that it's played by many people who did not play any other game before, at least not to the same extent. I even know people who bought their first PC to play WoW. Exclusively. They never touched another PC game before. WoW is not a game that is played almost exclusively by "old school" gamers. There's also quite a few young gamers aged 14-25 that play WoW and do not remember any other (big) MMOs folding. WoW has always been there for as long as they play.

      I don't know how they will handle the sudden lack of WoW...

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    2. Re:I fear the day by Opportunist · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I took that into account. And I'm not talking about the "average" WoW player. I know some people who play WoW. They still have a life. They go to raids once in a while, maybe once a week, unless something more interesting comes along. And most of the people that play WoW fall into this group.

      What I fear for are the "hardcore" players. The ones that sunk their life into WoW, that raid 3-4 times a week and would rather miss their mother's furneral than the all important raid. Contrary to stereotypes and what hysteric media reports of teens that died during playing WoW want us to believe, this isn't the average player. They are a minority.

      These people will not leave. Ever. They invested way too much time, they invested their life into this game. But they are most likely not enough to pay for expansion after expansion, maybe not even enough to keep the game running.

      The first group will eventually up and leave. Either because they had enough, or because they found that they don't have the time anymore, or maybe they just want to take a break because there's nothing going on they can or want to be part of.

      They're not the ones that I worry about.

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    3. Re:I fear the day by Opportunist · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yes, I play WoW.

      Better than it's ever been.... well, it sure is easier than it's ever been. It's now virtually impossible for a tank to lose aggro, no matter how much damage a DD lays on a mob (unless he's stupid, of course). CC is nonexistant because it's just way faster to mass bomb enemies, tanks can handle the damage and healers can easily compensate it. Skills that used to be "ohshit" buttons became part of the rotation due to decreased cooldowns.

      What I actually meant was the bonus you get from gear. It's getting out of hand and starts to break apart the game. Allow me to illustrate. What is equipment? Basically it's additional levels. When you level up, HP, attirbutes, mana, chance to hit/parry/dodge/block etc. increase. The same applies to items. They give you HP, mana, and so on. We are already at the point where stats from equipment outmatch "raw" stats by some magnitude. This in turn means that a level 70 player with top level gear will be "better" than a level 75 player with ordinary garb. This may not seem important until you take the all important aspect into consideration, which WoW managed so far: New players. Other MMOs fell apart when it became impossible for new players to catch up. They joined, saw that they will never compete with the old players and quit. Since there's also a steady loss of old players, those MMOs eventually withered away.

      Now, WoW gets new players still and they still grow to level 80. It's trivially easy in WoW to reach max level. WoW did away with the necessity many earlier MMOs had, that you HAD to group at some point to progress. Some will level quicker, some will take more time, but everyone will hit maxlevel provided he invests time. Until they get to 80, it is also not really a big problem for them to find a group. If they have inferior equipment, they will simply go into the instance a few levels later and still be useful.

      That changes completely at maxlevel. You can't just level a little further. Now, these people would have to go into "normal" instances because they cannot survive in "heroics". And here's the catch 22: The old players have the equipment (and the group/guild, if they don't) that they can often skip the normal instances altogether. They got to maxlevel in the pre-expansion times and have all the raid equipment that was available in the old times. This is now impossible for the new players, because getting a group for for a level 70 is even more impossible than getting one for a non-heroic instance.

      But nobody is going to take them along in a heroic instance if they're a liability rather than an asset.

      This is the problem WoW will have to solve now. I'm not talking about rotations (which ain't that big a deal anymore... like I said, the game's been made easier and easier, not that it was hard in the first place). I'm talking about the game mechanics revolving around items and the effects they have on player's ability to find groups.

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  24. So, how is the weather in denial? by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 2, Funny

    Interesting that in your rant to show how much of a non-loser you are, you list playing on Facebook. Think you kinda shot yourself in the foot there buddy.

    Losers come oi all forms, and defending on a loser site that you are not a loser... well... welcome brother.

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  25. Re:Someday by xaositects · · Score: 2, Insightful

    wow, that sounds oddly parallel to going to work every day. *sigh*

  26. Re:insert joke here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Before that, gay meant happy and care-free. And that hasn't changed in the last 20 years just because douchebags try to use it as a term for a homosexual.

  27. Re:You just... by Aqualung812 · · Score: 3, Informative

    You mean "The only winning move is not to play". Yeah, I'm being an ass.

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  28. Re:insert joke here by srussia · · Score: 5, Funny

    What does homosexuality have to do with it?

    Nothing at all. But when Taco said "No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame." it had nothing to do with being crippled. Oh wait...

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  29. Re:insert joke here by zmollusc · · Score: 3, Funny

    No, they can't be, I see them all the time.

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  30. Re:Correction: He did not complete the game by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "...why are we presuming this person is a he?"

    Occam's razor?

  31. "Beating" WoW by CaseM · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm quite sure that WoW isn't the only thing he's beating regularly.

  32. Re:Probably invested a lot in this by Locke2005 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I don't understand the appeal of doing so many things over and over again.

    You've never masturbated, have you?

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  33. seriously by AP31R0N · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What value is gained for reading a book, watching a movie, listening to music or mounting a pretty painting on the wall? It's all entertainment. If he enjoyed doing it, that's all the gain *he* needs. Entertainment is an end unto itself. Fun and beauty ARE utility.

    i'd rather do the other things i listed above than play WoW, but in the end, it's all fun and games.

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  34. Re:Amanda Seyfried/Julianne Moore love scene? Chec by iluvcapra · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's sort of pathetic what passes for a lesbian love scene post title these days. What ever happened to Natalie, petrified, hot grits etc... ?

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  35. Re:insert joke here by nine-times · · Score: 4, Funny

    Me too. (by "real life", you mean posting on Slashdot, right?)

  36. Re:All those achivements ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    since when there is a goal in real life? you think you won the real life game by having grand-children and a big family? Or by collecting girlfriends? wake up!
    the cake is a lie. There is no goal to complete. There is just what the society want you to do.

  37. Re:Probably invested a lot in this by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Funny

    Well, yeah, but afterwards I have something real to show!

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  38. Re:Time? by sabt-pestnu · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "/played" time (that is, time spent actually logged in)? You would have to ask him; it's not a stat available to the general public, afaik.

    Sidereal time?

    1) While he has the "Swift Flight Form" Feat of Strength achievement, the datestamp on it is not that of when achievements were first noted. This feat was added April 14 2009, he got it April 23rd. This might not be an accurate measure, though, if the Taiwan servers were updated later than the US ones.

    2) He has the "Stone Guard" Feat of Strength achievement, indicating that he was involved in PvP at least as far back as 2006.

    Beyond that, hard to tell.

  39. A better title by Dirtside · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think a better title for this article would be "World of Warcraft Beats Man".

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  40. Re:I fear the day, Too Big TO Fail by kenp2002 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Like American Auto, it's too big to fail. Very few MMOs to date have folded. AC2 and a few smaller ones but EQ is still strolling along. WoW, like EQ isn't a game, it is a setting, a mythology if you would.

    WoW 1.0 may some day go offline but WoW 2.0 will be there. Nothing is preventing Verant from taking EQ1, rebuilding the game engine from the ground up and relaunching Everquest to a new generation. That is why certain toys are only advertised heavily every 21-25 years. Introduce it to a new generation. A 'reboot' if you would.

    EQ is getting ready for a reboot I think, not a sequel, a reboot. Same for UO.

    I consider MMOs not a new gaming addiction but mearly the 21st century version of fraternal societies. Rather then heading out for lodge night, people head out and raid. MMOs have simply filled the social gap that freemasons, knight of columbus, rotary club, etc. filled for 1950s. In short people 'hang out' in MMOs.

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  41. Re:I fear the day, Too Big TO Fail by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Well, there is EQ2. I don't know if it can be called a "fail", but it was anything but the huge success it should have been according to the logic you present here. EQ was a different generation of MMOs, and, bluntly, I think its success is owed largely to the fact that it was the first (well, the first that got big enough to attract more than a handful followers). EQ was hard and unforgiving. I doubt that it would attract too many people today.

    When you look at EQ through the eyes of someone who has been playing WoW, you'd wonder why you could even possible consider playing it. It's confusing and difficult for someone who is used to a game like WoW where you get used to being led through pretty much any obstacle you might face. It's hard and unforgiving and you might lose your gear. You're highly dependent on the aid of others and you better have a good guild that doesn't mind staging a rescue party for your gear. People used to WoW would probably shake their head and wonder how you could possibly enjoy that.

    Maybe some day someone will come along and present us a new kind of MMO where we will be looking at WoW and wonder how we could stomach the time sinks and tedium, the boring repetitiveness, etc.

    So I doubt that a relaunch is the key to success. The formula does not work out anymore, it will not attract any players away from their current game.

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  42. Re:The Anti-Godwin's law by MaerD · · Score: 2, Funny

    Have you ever kissed a girl?

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  43. Re:You just... by elrous0 · · Score: 3, Funny

    How about a nice game of chess?

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  44. Re:Online-gaming attention timespan by MBGMorden · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This I can agree with - not so much for disappearing from your team (which is a legitimate problem in and of itself), but also from an investment standpoint. My WoW characters have a TON of time and energy invested. I know the classes, I know the spells, I have good gear, and I've invested a lot of time in leveling them. Just going to another MMORPG feels like I'm ditching all that effort to start over somewhere else. I haven't even played WoW lately but the only other games I've been able to bring myself to play have been single player games where progression over a long term doesn't matter. Starting another MMORPG would feel like I'm splitting my resources.

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  45. Re:insert joke here by g253 · · Score: 3, Funny

    That's a jolly gay response. It makes me feel gay, thanks :)

  46. Re:The Anti-Godwin's law by BitterAndDrunk · · Score: 3, Informative

    Married a couple of them.

    You're doing it wrong.

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