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How Men and Women Badly Estimate Their Own Intelligence

theodp writes "In investigating the question of whether men are smarter than women, British researcher Adrian Furnham came up with some startling results. His analysis of some 30 studies showed that men and women are fairly equal overall in terms of IQ, but women underestimate their own intelligence while men overestimate theirs. Surprisingly, both men and women perceived men being smarter across generations — both sexes believe that their fathers are smarter than their mothers and their grandfathers are more intelligent than their grandmothers. And if there are children, both men and women think their sons are brighter than their daughters."

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  1. If women are so smart . . . by SlappyBastard · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why isn't anyone raving about the Twitter feed called Shit My Mom Says?

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    1. Re:If women are so smart . . . by negRo_slim · · Score: 3, Funny

      Because old people don't rave.

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    2. Re:If women are so smart . . . by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Funny

      I was talking to this older couple in their late 40s early 50s.

      Ouch.

      You just spoiled my Sunday.

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    3. Re:If women are so smart . . . by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Funny

      on other occasions I'd pretend to be a pilot, and she'd pretend to be a dumb blond stewardess.

      She does that with you too?

      I thought I was special...

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    4. Re:If women are so smart . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Or that despite having more votes than men, it's somehow men's fault that we haven't had a female President and few female Senators. ... What happened to women a century back and earlier has precisely nothing to do with the present day.

      What ignorance.

      In 220 years, there have been 38 female Senators.
      Of those 38, slightly over 1/3rd were appointed, not elected.
      None of them were in office until after 1920.
      Why 1920? Because until then, women were not treated as equal citizens.
      Hell, there are still States that have never elected a female Senator.

      I could give you other examples, but it suffices to say that the
      inequalities and prejudices of the past almost always linger far into the future.

      I can't believe that, with approximately 25 elected female senators, some states have never elected a female to the senate! Statistically speaking this seems impossible.

    5. Re:If women are so smart . . . by WaywardGeek · · Score: 2, Funny

      After my divorce back around 1998, I hung around a lot of bars. I find it easy and interesting to talk to smart people, even if they are huge a-holes, like most of us here on slashdot. I just can't do small talk. So, more often than not, I'd discover in a bar that I'd just started a conversation with a complete ditz. At that point, I'd switch to reading auras, where I would try and guess as many details of a woman's life based on a shimmering color only I could see around her. Of course, I'm color blind. I had a lot of fun reading auras, but it got a bit weird in one case when I was dating a girl who believed me. We were chemically and physically an amazing match, but mentally, we were in different worlds.

      And, yes, you are in the minority for a "Southern Man". Ask your friends if they would prefer to meet a dumb drunk blond at the next bar. Actually, that's not just the South... I think it's world-wide.

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    6. Re:If women are so smart . . . by Tynin · · Score: 1, Funny

      Hey hun, I'm sorry the cramps are getting bad again, but since you are getting up to get some pamprin, sudo make me a sandwich.

    7. Re:If women are so smart . . . by penguin_dance · · Score: 2, Funny

      And tell that punk to get off my lawn!

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    8. Re:If women are so smart . . . by penguin_dance · · Score: 4, Funny

      You mean man up and post as an anonymous coward like you did?

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    9. Re:If women are so smart . . . by akirapill · · Score: 3, Funny

      Women don't really want to be equal partners, and men usually find being the superior partner pleasing. Seems like the only problem is women's bitching--but maybe that means they're happy?

      ahh, now your name makes sense - misexistentialist

    10. Re:If women are so smart . . . by eharvill · · Score: 3, Funny

      . Our kids are "FGs", which means either "Florida Gators" or "F--king Geninuses", I'm not sure which.

      Aren't those mutually exclusive??? ;-)

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    11. Re:If women are so smart . . . by smooth+wombat · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm really late in replying to your comments, however I happened to read a BBC article which quantifies what you have found out. Link to the article.

      The study found that on the whole, marriages which last longer and have a greater chance of success (i.e. not divorcing) occur when the woman is at least five years younger than the man AND the woman is smarter than the man.

      Take the study as you will.

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  2. Re:They believe it because it's true by negRo_slim · · Score: 2, Funny

    Odds are your father or grand father are smarter than their partners. Sure you mom may have a vast wealth of knowledge about shoes or Oprah but that's not of any real use.

    I'll have you know that maybe wars are won and lost based upon shoes!

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  3. In other news by farlukar · · Score: 1, Funny

    Research finds that it takes a slashdot drone 23 months to report a story.

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  4. Obviously by liquiddark · · Score: 4, Funny

    Clearly this is the case. Men haven't been able to win domestic arguments since clubbing and dragging was considered a valid way to conduct discourse.

    1. Re:Obviously by Falconhell · · Score: 4, Funny

      Ah, the good old days! (-:

    2. Re:Obviously by maxume · · Score: 2, Funny

      It has been a terrible 40 years.

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  5. Re:They believe it because it's true by QuantumG · · Score: 4, Funny

    But you can't figure out how to log in.

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  6. Re:IQ != Intelligence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Indeed, I find many charismatic, smooth talkers to be shocking simple-minded.

    You just described my boss. Thanks.

  7. Allegedly... by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 4, Funny

    Allegedly GWBush has a fairly high IQ (well at least 120+)

    (Allegedly there, I FTFY.) That's alleged by people who allegedly have an allegedly low IQ themselves (well at least 80-, allegedly) and will, I allege, show up shortly to allege otherwise. I'll also allege that I'd like to hear what new alleged topics Bush allegedly had the capacity to allegedly understand.

    They allegedly always allege that Bush was allegedly smarter than Obama (allegedly our new president, although he allegedly has some alleged paperwork problem allegedly involving his alleged birth in the State allegedly of Hawaii- allegedly one of the States which are themselves alleged to be United- that magically [allegedly] transports his alleged birth to the alleged nation of Kenya as if that would allegedly make them alleged victims even if it were allegedly true in the alleged first place).

    Now before anyone allegedly jumps on me, please allegedly remember that I allegedly only alleged these things were alleged, so I'm allegedly sorry.

    1. Re:Allegedly... by acheron12 · · Score: 5, Funny

      If I hear that word one more time I'm gonna jump off allege.

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    2. Re:Allegedly... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

  8. Re:Variance is the key by c_sd_m · · Score: 5, Funny

    IQ tests are mostly multiple choice. Coloring the bubble more darkly doesn't get you extra points if you're right.

  9. Re:I'm smarter than your mom by c_sd_m · · Score: 2, Funny

    That's what she said! Uh, you said. Hmm, works either way.

  10. Re:Different intelligence: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Men generally fared well in the more science and maths based questions, while women fared significantly better at sociology and understanding emotions in others.

    Unfortunately for women, emotional intelligence doesn't build rocket ships.

  11. Re:They believe it because it's true by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Meaning, an idiot is more likely to be a male, and a genius is more likely to be a male."

    ... and on Slashdot they are likely to be the same person!

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  12. real reason by Kebis · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think the real reason men feel they're more intelligent than women can be summed up in two words: "Twilight Saga".

  13. Re:Also, they don't care by noidentity · · Score: 5, Funny

    Believe it or not, I live with a women and she could care less about an IQ test. I would also like to go on record as saying that she is much smarter than me

    And I don't think anyone would disagree.

  14. Re:They believe it because it's true by Virak · · Score: 5, Funny

    So the evil liberals and their oppressive egalitarian agenda are leading to the downfall of society and the invasion of Muslim barbarians? Did you forget to take your medicine today?

  15. I used to think I was smarter than most people. by alex_guy_CA · · Score: 2, Funny
    I used to think I was smarter than most people. I thought I was very smart in fact.

    Now I think I'm above average 1/2 of the time.

  16. Re:They believe it because it's true by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 2, Funny

    "It depends on if I've had my morning caffeine or not."

    Can you point to any studies showing that morning coffee makes you a genius? ;-)

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  17. Re:Well, Duh by corbettw · · Score: 2, Funny

    It sure does among polar bears. Male polar bears who don't speak Esperanto don't have a snowball's chance of reproducing.

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  18. Re:They believe it because it's true by TapeCutter · · Score: 4, Funny

    Reminds me of the old joke: Women are animal lovers, they want a Jaguar in the garage, a tiger in the bedroom, and a jack-ass to pay for it all.

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  19. Re:Bold = Smart by pwnies · · Score: 2, Funny

    Time to get me some +5 insightful. I never knew it was so easy!