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The DIY Book Scanner

azoblue writes "Daniel Reetz did not want to lug around heavy textbooks, so he built a book scanner to create digital copies. '... over three days, and for about $300, he lashed together two lights, two Canon Powershot A590 cameras, a few pieces of acrylic and some chunks of wood to create a book scanner that's fast enough to scan a 400-page book in about 20 minutes (PDF). To use it, he simply loads in a book and presses a button, then turns the page and presses the button again. Each press of the button captures two pages, and when he's done, software on Reetz's computer converts the book into a PDF file. The Reetz DIY book scanner isn't automated — you still need to stand by it to turn the pages. But it's fast and inexpensive.'"

177 comments

  1. Too bad slavery is illegal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    This would be a good activity for the winter months when farming isn't possible.

    1. Re:Too bad slavery is illegal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      This would be a good activity for the winter months when farming isn't possible.

      That's why God gave us illegal immigrants.

  2. Look out! by Chris+Tucker · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Here comes the Publisher's Copyright Enforcement Gundams to give you "What For!".

    Imagine that, thinking you could actually DO Something like that with your very own property.

    What cheek!

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    1. Re:Look out! by gman003 · · Score: 1

      I actually hope they try to sue someone for this. Once they publicly try to completely violate a paying customer's rights like that, they'll get so much backlash and such a sound legal thrashing that they won't mess with anyone for decades.

    2. Re:Look out! by oh_bugger · · Score: 1

      Or, what will really happen is that the government will make devices capable of creating images of pages illegal, with an over-the-top prison sentence for those who use them.

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    3. Re:Look out! by John+Hasler · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Right. After all, scanners have only been around for about fifty years: the publishers just haven't noticed yet. This homebrew effort is sure to bring the matter to their attention.

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    4. Re:Look out! by bytesex · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Just like last time. Or just like next year is finally going to be the year of Linux on the desktop. Not trolling, just cynical. Sorry.

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    5. Re:Look out! by Arancaytar · · Score: 1

      they'll get so much backlash and such a sound legal thrashing that they won't mess with anyone for decades.

      Yes, like the dozens of times they've pulled it before.

    6. Re:Look out! by Mr.+Freeman · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Are you fucking stupid? They're doing the EXACT SAME THING RIGHT NOW with music, see how that turned out?
      Let's recap:
      -Consumers aren't having their rights protected
      -Some courts are actually ruling in favor of removing customers rights (i.e. every time the RIAA has won some part of a case_
      -Legislation to remove rights from consumers is getting more and more popular
      -The RIAA and other organizations are making bank off of their sue, settle, and drop campaign. (Sue at random, settle for thousands, drop the case if they fight back).

      The first time they try to sue someone, it won't fly back in their face. They'll settle out of court because no average person can afford to fight a company, much less a book publisher.

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    7. Re:Look out! by Mr.+Freeman · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Hell yes it will. Prior to now it's been a pain in the ass to actually scan a book. You either had to shell out big money for a professional model scanner, which no one except large companies does. Or you had to scan in every page with a flatbed, which generally comes out poorly because that crease in the center results in shadows which results in an image that's not appealing to look at and read.

      This allows people to generate high-quality scans of books. Especially with the price of high-quality cameras dropping.
      I see this being amazingly popular with college students. The absurd amount of money publishers charge for books combined with the fact that college students are the group most likely to put up with having no physical document and settle for a pdf version means that a drop in sales is not unlikely. Now, take into consideration that at most college campuses with engineering programs there's generally a few people clever enough to build one of these and all of a sudden you see a business model start to fall.

      As for the liberal arts universities... well...

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    8. Re:Look out! by nametaken · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not sure he did it for his own property. But it does prove that books have the best DRM of all.

    9. Re:Look out! by welsh+git · · Score: 1

      I forgot - this is slashdot - you didn't read the article, right?

      He said one of the motivations was the high price of textbooks.

      So obviously he's going to borrow them from friends/libraries

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    10. Re:Look out! by nametaken · · Score: 1

      That's why I said that, slick. ;)

  3. Oh noooo!!! There they coooome! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...a horde of pirates willing to steal my Intellectual Property!!

  4. A bargain by thethibs · · Score: 4, Informative

    Except for the lack of an automatic page-turner, Daniel's device is the same as one you can buy commercially for about $20,000 (http://www.treventus.com/bookscanner_pageturner.html).

    He was wise to decide on manual page-turning.

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    1. Re:A bargain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The lack of an automatic page-turner is a real deal-breaker. At 20 minutes per book, it would take 35 straight days of supervised scanning to capture my 2500+ book library.
      Otherwise, it seems like a really great hack.

    2. Re:A bargain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How does that make it less of a bargain? Do you earn the $19,700 every 35 days to offset the opportunity cost?

    3. Re:A bargain by Surt · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The automatic page turner costs an additional 19700 / 833 hours = 23.64 per hour. Hire a high school student for 8.

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    4. Re:A bargain by FlyMysticalDJ · · Score: 1

      8 dollars an hour? I know a few high school students that would do it for that. Hell, I know a few full grown adults that would.

    5. Re:A bargain by petermgreen · · Score: 1

      That's 35 DAYS of actual scanning, people don't work solidly.

      more realistically with a 50 hour working week (which is rather on the high side) it's 17 working weeks or about a third of a man-year.

      If you use minimum wage labour (or value your own time that low) it's probablly still cheaper than buying the commercial scanner new and throwing it away/putting it in the loft and forgetting about it afterwards but I bet it's higher than the cost of buying the commercial scanner used, doing the scans and reselling it.

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    6. Re:A bargain by rm999 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but then you have an automatic page turner you can sell on ebay.

    7. Re:A bargain by noidentity · · Score: 1

      He could get automated page-turning for about $5 per book, or half a pizza.

    8. Re:A bargain by Farhood · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I have Kinko's/Staples/ Office Depot cut off the spine ($1-$5), clip it on all sides, and go home to my Fujitsu ScanSnap for ADF scanning, auto color/ b/w selection, and OCR. Oh, and you press the button once and walk away.

    9. Re:A bargain by Surt · · Score: 1

      True ... how much does a used automatic page turner fetch on ebay?

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    10. Re:A bargain by GNUALMAFUERTE · · Score: 3, Funny

      Better yet, how much does a high school student fetch on ebay?

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    11. Re:A bargain by ehrichweiss · · Score: 1

      So your books are worth nothing to you, are they? Or you don't have any books remotely considered rare. Seriously, some of us have books worth more than $3 and some of us would like to be able to resell some of them at one point which is decidedly hard to do when you've butchered them.

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    12. Re:A bargain by Surt · · Score: 1
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    13. Re:A bargain by StripedCow · · Score: 1

      you can make an automatic page-turner easily:

      - take a plastic pipe, drill in some holes
      - attach one end to a vacuum cleaner
      - mount the pipe on a structure capable of making the right movement (this is the most difficult part, but really not that hard)

      of course, the holes in the pipe should be large enough to allow sufficient suction power to turn the pages; this takes some experimentation.

      (yes, i know, this solution "sucks", but in a good way)

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    14. Re:A bargain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is she hot?

    15. Re:A bargain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And why do you need to scan your whole library?

      Just do them as and when you anticipate needing them.

  5. Heh by sys.stdout.write · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I do this for my law school textbooks (unless you're a book publisher, in which case I am joking and would never break the law).

    I was excited when I read this because it is a pain in the ass to turn the pages in a 1000 page Constitutional Law textbook. Thus, you can imagine my disappointment when I read that his machine doesn't automate this.

    Most universities have at least one library which has a Ricoh scanner that does exactly what his does, i.e. it writes out a PDF onto your USB stick. I don't know where he's a graduate student, but I bet if he looked in his library he could have saved himself $300.

    1. Re:Heh by Vellmont · · Score: 1


      Most universities have at least one library which has a Ricoh scanner that does exactly what his does, i.e. it writes out a PDF onto your USB stick. I don't know where he's a graduate student, but I bet if he looked in his library he could have saved himself $300.

      Except most scanners take on the order of tens of seconds to scan a page, and force you to pick up the book, turn the page, and put it flat again. This arrangement takes a picture and the book is in its normal orientation, so page turning is easy. With that kind of arrangement I don't doubt you can scan a 400 page book in 20 minutes.

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    2. Re:Heh by atarkri · · Score: 4, Informative

      The school is NDSU. Yes we (he) looked. No our library does not have one.

      He has details of the reasons on his blog danreetz.com/blog

    3. Re:Heh by Weezul · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      I think most medical, science, engineering, etc. texts are all available on the russian book text pirate sites like giggle and gigapedia. I doubt people outside the U.S. bother scanning U.S. law text books, but maybe you'll find some particularly common ones uploaded by American students.

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    4. Re:Heh by emj · · Score: 1

      1 second per page that makes 6 minutes per book, if you only want the images then you can do it faster. Flipping by hand, and not using glas to straigthen the pages, I've got as low as 0.4s per page and 0.9s/p on average for two books. (that's 6 minutes for 400 pages, though you don't want to do more than 200-270 pages without one of these scanners)

    5. Re:Heh by TubeSteak · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I do this for my law school textbooks (unless you're a book publisher, in which case I am joking and would never break the law).

      What law are you breaking?
      Whether you scan it and convert the OCRed text into an audio book, rip all the pages out and turn it into an art exhibit, or use the book for toilet paper, the publisher has no legal right (AFAIK) to stop you.

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    6. Re:Heh by rdnetto · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not sure where you live, but in most areas format shifting is usually recognized as fair use. Whether or not torrenting the PDF counts as format shifting isn't a question that the courts have answered yet, but it's currently the most convenient method.

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    7. Re:Heh by cgenman · · Score: 1

      IANAL, but... Scanning books is a form of copying. Converting OCRed text into an audio book is a form of creating a derivative work. Both of these fall under the purvey of copyright law, and may or may not fall under fair use. It may be the sort of thing that you could fight and win in court, but you'd probably have to fight. And, of course, if the original poster explicitly created this machine because textbooks are expensive, then the "significant non-infringing uses" defense is definitely lower.

      Using a book for toilet paper, however, is not something that publishers can stop you from doing. Considering the quality of most college textbooks, it might be their best use.

    8. Re:Heh by cdrguru · · Score: 1

      You might want to read the front matter of just about every book published to see that they specifically address feeding the book into a computer in any way possible and say it is a violation of the copyright if done without permission.

      Of course, nobody gives a rat's ass about copyright any longer. So torrenting the books from somewhere like Romainia should be just fine.

    9. Re:Heh by Toonol · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You might want to read the front matter of just about every book published to see that they specifically address feeding the book into a computer in any way possible and say it is a violation of the copyright if done without permission.

      It doesn't matter what they say. It matters what the law says, and if they tell you that you can't do something the law says you can, the law wins. The more books add legal crap in order to be more like software EULAs, the more lies they will incorporate, like software EULAs.

      I doubt there's much of a chance at all that you would be found guilty of copyright infringement for making a format change of your own book, for your own use. That's nearly the most straightforward example of fair use you could imagine. If you distributed it, sure; that's not fair use.

    10. Re:Heh by Theaetetus · · Score: 1

      I doubt there's much of a chance at all that you would be found guilty of copyright infringement for making a format change of your own book, for your own use.

      Therein lies the problem. If you read the article, his motivation for this was the high prices of textbooks. So he's likely either borrowing them, or buying them and returning them a week later for a full refund, and keeping the pdf file. In either case, he retains the format-changed book without retaining the book, and thus loses any possible claim he has of fair use based on format shifting.

    11. Re:Heh by Theaetetus · · Score: 1

      Not sure where you live, but in most areas format shifting is usually recognized as fair use. Whether or not torrenting the PDF counts as format shifting isn't a question that the courts have answered yet, but it's currently the most convenient method.

      Actually, they did answer it, in the Grokster case. Specifically, your argument is "I bought the CD, but I'm too lazy to rip it to mp3 myself. Since I can legally rip it on my own, what's the harm in having someone else rip it for me, and I just grab a copy off a peer to peer site?" And this argument seems to be sound... until you realize that they've never actually gone after a downloader, for precisely this reason. You have the right to rip your CD to mp3... You don't have the right to then distribute that mp3, because there's nothing in the Betamax decision that allows distribution. Thomas, Tennenbaum, etc. were all uploading, so any question of format shifting via torrent is irrelevant.

    12. Re:Heh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it's Romania, thank you very much :)

  6. Inevitable DMCA smackdown coming? by i_want_you_to_throw_ · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How soon before the manufacturer of the $20,000 commercial version files a lawsuit against him? That would be extraordinarily sad because the American system of patent/copyright only serves to stifle independent innovation like this.

    1. Re:Inevitable DMCA smackdown coming? by Dj_fishlover · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I was also thinking about this. Lawfully copying your lawfully bought copyright work to electronic form. It's a clear opportunity for a DMCA to smack them down.

    2. Re:Inevitable DMCA smackdown coming? by Chyeld · · Score: 1

      These have existed for a while now, I remember seeing one that actually did turn pages (but used a real scanner and wasn't gentle when it turned the page).

      http://www.engadget.com/2006/02/22/build-your-own-fullauto-bookscanner/

      That isn't to take away from what was done here, just to point out this isn't so new that the publishers/manufacturers don't already know about it.

    3. Re:Inevitable DMCA smackdown coming? by MattskEE · · Score: 1

      Your fear is an overreaction, I see no reason for a scanner company to file a lawsuit here. Even if they did, it would be for patent infringement, not copyright infringement.

      First, this guy isn't selling his scanner, he just built one for himself. So there's no reason for a lawsuit to be filed.

      Second, I doubt that he he infringes on any patent help by a company that manufactures a book scanner. The trickiest thing about these scanners is the page turning and the software for OCR and correction for page curvature. This guy implements neither.

      Third, specialist companies aren't in the habit of suing independent hackers. Even if he was selling the scanner, he would have to charge a hell of a lot more than $300 for it because of the time spent developing and building it, and for things like marketing, quality control, support, and overhead. It's a fact ignored by many DIY websites touting a "homemade widget for less than the greedy corporations are charging". And even then, this scanner would not compare with the $20,000 model because of lack of automatic page turning if nothing else.

      Now maybe you're thinking of textbook companies suing the guy, not the manufacturer of the $20,000 book scanner. That's slightly more plausible. Most books have the boilerplate "You cannot store an electronic copy of this book" notice, but there is a good case for fair use. But even so it would be simple copyright infringement, not circumvention of copy protection mechanisms, which is what the DMCA is mainly about.

  7. Graduate student in what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wonder what he studies. it seems like the majority of the work was done by others (hacked firmware, post-processing, pdf conversion). is he a mechanical engineer? (I suspect an amateur couldn't design such a thing structure.)

    1. Re:Graduate student in what? by Sebilrazen · · Score: 1

      I think I found his website.

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  8. Cameras usually stink for this.... by Slugster · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It may work well enough for basic textbooks, but the problem is that (for high-quality scans) you can't ever get the same image quality from a $800 camera that you can from a $80 scanner. At 1200 DPI, a scanner is equivalent to a ~384 MP camera. Even scanning at "only" 300 DPI is ~90 MP, a far bigger image than any consumer-grade camera can provide.

    The cameras he used were only five megapixels.

    Might work for looking at the pages on your iPhone. Not gonna look very readable on your laptop screen, and forget about reading the book's footnotes.....
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    1. Re:Cameras usually stink for this.... by bloobloo · · Score: 2, Informative

      There's no problem with the resolution.

      9" x 6" page, scanned at 300 dpi = 2700 x 1800 pixels = 4.86 MP.

    2. Re:Cameras usually stink for this.... by maxume · · Score: 2, Informative

      Lots of book scanners use ccds. They are good enough. No one really wants a 'portable' scanned document that weighs in at 3 gigabytes anyway, current laptop IO makes that a pain in the ass.

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    3. Re:Cameras usually stink for this.... by smallfries · · Score: 4, Informative

      You haven't actually tried this have you? I've had various flatbed A4 scanners over the years, all at much higher resolution than a camera, and hence all got down-sampled afterwards for my display that is only 1.5MP anyway. Then I switched to using a phone camera with only a 2MP CCD, but a really good lens and decent macro mode (Sony-Ericcson Cybershot for those that are interested). As long as the focus was good it produced perfectly readable shots, and so it became my portable scanner. These days I mostly shot stuff at home so I have a 12MP DSLR to hand. It's huge overkill, and I massively down-sample stuff afterwards, but entirely readable. So your basic claim that this can't be done with a camera based on the resolution compared to a scanner is a complete load of bollocks. The focus of the lens tends to be the important issue.

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    4. Re:Cameras usually stink for this.... by Chris+Tucker · · Score: 2, Informative

      FYI, the color camera on the Mars Rovers.

      One Megapixel. Really spiffy and detailed images of the Martian landscape for only one megapixel, don't you think?

      Also, TFA states he's using OCR to create a PDF.

      If the image from the camera is sharp enough, the OCR software should have no trouble "reading" it.

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    5. Re:Cameras usually stink for this.... by atarkri · · Score: 1

      The use of 5 MP cameras is more than sufficient for reading the scanned books at any resolution, if you'd bother to check out any of the sample scans he's released on instructables or the diybookscanner website. Dan chewed on this "problem" of insufficient resolution for a month or so before he did some tests and concluded that digital cameras just plain take better pictures than scanners do, since the technology used in scanners is old and stagnant; while the computing power in these smaller, cheaper digital cameras continues to improve.

    6. Re:Cameras usually stink for this.... by cdrguru · · Score: 1

      It might be nice if you understood digital photography before opining on something you clearly know nothing about.

      The Mars Rover camera is a very special instrument. How consumer digital cameras work is with something called a Bayer matrix of red, green and blue filters. The end result is that you get RGB values by interpolation - in reality you have about 1/4th the resolution of the sensor. You can get pretty fancy with the interpolation, but there is still a huge loss of detail. When the output is a JPEG - fuzzy by design to begin with - there isn't that much lost, really.

      The Mars Rover camera uses three separate filters which are placed over the sensor in turn, so in reality three separate pictures are taken and the pixels combined. As long as nothing moves there is no problem with an aggregate exposure time in seconds. This would be a huge problem for consumer cameras which is why it isn't done. So right off, the Mars Rover has 4x the resolution of a consumer 1MP camera. Then they use real glass lenses rather than cheap plastic. So the image quality is several times as good as that consumer camera. Then the output is not JPEG but almost certainly some lossless compression technique - I do not know what they are using. This again raises the bar.

      I'd say the Mars Rover camera is probably equivalent to Canon's 1D weighing in at $6,999 with a decent lens. Total package, probably a little under $8,000.

      The problem with trying to use a Bayer camera for scanning is the interpolation of pixels. You just aren't going to get much better than 1/4th the resolution of the sensor, and you really want high frequency response, so you need to save the images in raw mode, not JPEG. Since I gather this is being done in JPEG mode, OCR better be really good because you are going to get real soft edges on the characters.

    7. Re:Cameras usually stink for this.... by Chris+Tucker · · Score: 4, Funny

      I am well aware of how the Mars cameras work, having done a metric shitload of B&W "color" photography via filters myself.

      And you, obviously, know exactly dick about not being an asshole.

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    8. Re:Cameras usually stink for this.... by Toonol · · Score: 1

      Not gonna look very readable on your laptop screen, and forget about reading the book's footnotes.....

      No, it's fine. A laptop screen is 1400x900 or thereabouts; even a cheap camera will have better resolution than that. It's not going to be a problem unless you're doing a fair amount of zooming in.

      At 1200dpi, an 8.5" x 11" document will be 10,200 x 13,200 resolution. That may be useful for some purposes, but for simple text browsing it's overkill by nearly a whole order of magnitude.

    9. Re:Cameras usually stink for this.... by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      I can make perfectly readable jpgs of book pages with a Ricoh GX100, handheld, at 400 ISO. Soft edges? If my eyes don't see them when I'm zoomed in x16 I doubt it'd be a problem for any OCR software that can cope with normal quality printing.

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    10. Re:Cameras usually stink for this.... by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

      Most point-and-shoots can't resolve their nominal pixel density due to the small sensor imposing diffraction limits. However, I just tried this with a typical technical textbook and a Canon A1100IS (12 megapixel, about $130) and the image is sharp enough for easy reading.

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  9. I've by Kamineko · · Score: 3, Funny

    What a coincidece! I too have a book scanner that scans books, and requires a human operator to attend to turning the pages.

    It's called a scanner.

    1. Re:I've by iammani · · Score: 2, Interesting

      We would love to see you scan 400 pages in 20 minutes with your 'book scanner'.

    2. Re:I've by Patik · · Score: 1

      Let us know how long it takes you to scan a 400-page book using that method. I bet it's a tad over 20 minutes.

    3. Re:I've by sys.stdout.write · · Score: 1

      I can do it in 20 minutes. Each scan takes 5 or 6 seconds, but you do two pages at a time. Thus:

      (200 scans) * (6 seconds / scan) = 1200 seconds

      Otherwise known as 20 minutes.

    4. Re:I've by fbjon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Really? Scanning takes a fair number of seconds, then you need to lift the book in order to turn the page, set it down correctly, and start the next scan. Compare with: push button, turn page, push button. Limited pretty much by how fast you turn the page.

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    5. Re:I've by iammani · · Score: 1

      Hmmm i wonder if turning the page and pressing a button takes the same time as lifting the book and turning the page, placing the book back and pressing a button.

      And if you can do 400 pages on a flat bed scanner in 20 min, i bet you could do it much much faster on this guys setup.

    6. Re:I've by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Belive me, when I was a student I had to photocopy a lot of books. 4 seconds per page with a fast photocopier are more than enough.

      Then just put the photocopies in a autofeeding scanner. Voila'.

    7. Re:I've by iammani · · Score: 1

      Ahh yet another I can do it faster. My point is that, if you could do a page every four seconds in your setup, with this guys setup you could do it much faster, with lesser effort. Which in my opinion is worth it.

    8. Re:I've by The+-e**(i*pi) · · Score: 5, Informative

      http://www.geocities.jp/takascience/lego/fabs_en.html

      turning the pages and scanning is childs play

    9. Re:I've by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1) Neatly cut the pages out of the book: 5 minutes.
      2) Set up scanner with duplexer document feeder: 5 minutes
      3) Run pages through scanner and OCR: 8 minutes
      4) Profit!

    10. Re:I've by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, I can do the ENTIRE book in 5 or 6 seconds... - Johnny 5

    11. Re:I've by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except that the library or the person you borrowed the book from would want the book back exactly the same condition as they gave it.

    12. Re:I've by Jeremy+Erwin · · Score: 2, Funny

      Has anyone tried shotgun scanning yet? Irregularly shred the books, feed the shreds into a bulk scanner, and use a computer to reassemble.

    13. Re:I've by Jeremy+Erwin · · Score: 1

      Why? Just give them the digital file, and they'll regain some much needed shelf space.

    14. Re:I've by iammani · · Score: 1

      My library does appreciate lending books and returning them as a digital copy. Can you direct me to one that does?

    15. Re:I've by Jeremy+Erwin · · Score: 1

      My library does appreciate lending books and returning them as a digital copy. Can you direct me to one that does?

      Seek, and ye shall find.

    16. Re:I've by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know you were going for "ha ha", but they use EXACTLY this method in Rainbows End by Vernor Vinge.

  10. repost by AnonGCB · · Score: 4, Informative

    http://bkrpr.org/doku.php

    Same thing, much cheaper (I built mine for ~150 USD.)

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    1. Re:repost by idji · · Score: 5, Informative

      yeah, but you have to press 2 buttons and then lift your two cameras with your 4 sided PMMA/perspex/plexiglass box every time - he has a hinged L-shaped piece of perspex and one button - a more elegant solution - half the button presses, the cameras don't move and less weight.

    2. Re:repost by fwarren · · Score: 1

      Besides being half the price of the other setup, there is a larger consideration. It is the size. I have no place to store the scanner they use in this article. I am hard pressed to find a place I could set it up other than in the middle of my living room. The smaller scanner for half the price I could find a place to store it when I am not using it.

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    3. Re:repost by moonbender · · Score: 1

      I don't get it. Can't you simply leave out the "front" side of the box, that is the side where you'd sit if you were reading the book? The cameras don't need a piece of glass there, and the whole contraption could still be stable. That way you could reach in and turn the page without lifiting the glass box. Seems much more convenient. I must be missing something.

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    4. Re:repost by idji · · Score: 3, Informative

      the bottom two sides of the box are holding the pages flat for the cameras. He has to lift the box to turn the page.

      Your idea would end up with bent pages.

    5. Re:repost by moonbender · · Score: 1

      Yep, there it is. That is what I was missing. Thanks.

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    6. Re:repost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On the other hand, you only get that one button push after loading custom firmware onto the cameras and soldering your own usb trigger. And you only get the fixed cameras at the expense of a much larger and more complicated to assemble design.

  11. Are there scanners that accept a stack of sheets? by selven · · Score: 1, Insightful

    If so, wouldn't it be easier to just rip out the binding and put in the pages? The $15 cost of buying another copy is less than all that boring, repetitive manual labor.

  12. Other stuff from this guy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Reetz also writes really awesome electronic music as Fake

  13. Re:Are there scanners that accept a stack of sheet by hansonc · · Score: 5, Informative

    You must not have ever gone to college. A textbook for $15? Get real.

  14. He's just pretending by phantomcircuit · · Score: 2, Insightful

    He keeps talking about how expensive the books are. Clearly he is just using this to scan other people's books to avoid paying.

    Still a pretty cool build though :P

    1. Re:He's just pretending by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1 semester can be 600+ in books depending on your major. So for the cost of 1/2 of a semester in books he can save himself a bunch of money (about 4k). Illegal as hell but ingenious.

    2. Re:He's just pretending by mjwalshe · · Score: 1

      Quite I hope for his sake his college doesn’t have an honour code

    3. Re:He's just pretending by atarkri · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually, the motivation behind the project stem's from Dan's stay in Russia before his graduate studies. He realized that their are tons of old posters, pictures, and other soviet propoganda floating around the country's libraries that many people in the western world would like to view, but are unwilling to go to Russia to see. He wanted to digitize some of these posters (works of art, in his view) in order to circulate them on the web. He soon became very frustrated with using a flatbed scanner, and stopped. Zoom ahead a few years later, Instrucatables is having a contest to win an epilog laser cutter, so he decided to build a book scanner out of recycled (read: trash) materials and submits the project, and wins. He says he's surprised at how well the project has resonated with the web community.

    4. Re:He's just pretending by fwarren · · Score: 4, Insightful

      He may be scanning books to pirate them. However, I am a college student as well but trying to save money by pirating the books is not my objective.

      I am in my 40's and my eyesight is not what it used to be. Here is why I would buy the books and scan them.

      1. To be legal and comply with the law. I may very well by the books used, to get them as cheaply as possible. But I will buy them.
      2. It is much lighter for me to carry one laptop around on campus, perhaps with copies of all the books I have used for all terms up to the current term.
      3. I can zoom the pages to a comfortable size to read the text.
      4. I now have the ability to search through the text.
      5. I can use a text-to-speech reader to listen to the book, I can even make an mp3 of the book if I so desired.

      To me it sounds like a bargain

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    5. Re:He's just pretending by callinyouin · · Score: 1

      I find this perfectly acceptable. The prices of college books are absolutely insane, and forcing college students to pay such ridiculus prices is perhaps just short of extortion.

    6. Re:He's just pretending by couchslug · · Score: 1

      "Clearly he is just using this to scan other people's books to avoid paying."

      Textbook makers and colleges exploit a captive student population, so that attitude is understandable.

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    7. Re:He's just pretending by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He may be scanning books to pirate them. However, I am a college student as well but trying to save money by pirating the books is not my objective.

      I'm in my 40's, not a college student, and my objective damn well is to pirate them (in my case, I do it for my college-age kids). I despise the textbook industry more than the RIAA and MPAA combined. It's a racket, and if it's not illegal, it is so unethical that any decent citizen should turn a blind eye to crimes committed against the publishers.

      I better post anonymously, I suppose.

    8. Re:He's just pretending by BobMcD · · Score: 1

      "Clearly he is just using this to scan other people's books to avoid paying."

      Textbook makers and colleges exploit a captive student population, so that attitude is understandable.

      So does the entire education system. The attitude may be understandable, but unless he's going to community college somewhere then it kind of falls into a penny/pound scenario where he failed to account for the cost of books when selecting a college that meets his budget.

  15. Use a tripod by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And how is this better than using a tripod with a horizontal swinging arm and a digicam?

  16. Archive.org has something like this by 0-9a-zA-Z_.+!*'()123 · · Score: 1

    built by one of their ex-employees.

    Its in a case in their front office.

  17. high quality digital cameras doom textbooks by Surt · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is a market that relies on outrageous reproduction prices just like cd's used to. They are equally doomed. I know a LOT of college students who no longer buy books ... they rent them for free by buying them, shooting them, and returning them. It may take a couple of hours to do manually without a device like this, but $80 per hour is pretty good wages for a college student.

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    1. Re:high quality digital cameras doom textbooks by Weezul · · Score: 1

      Or just download them from other students?

      I recently taught an upper level computer science course in a second world country. I was worried about whether the students would have access to books. No problem, students have already digitized all common undergraduate text books and share them on various eastern european websites. So the official course webpages often just link the textbook directly.

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    2. Re:high quality digital cameras doom textbooks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      ..and enterprising kid could buy the popular undergrad books, cut them up, use a professional autofeed / OCR scanner (pirate the software) and make a tidy sum selling USB keys for ~500 year old knowledge that should have been opened and standardized in form a LONG time ago. It's fundamentally _wrong_ that kids need to pay $1000's for undergraduate books when the fundamentals are hundreds of years old.

      Fuck the SOBs. You could make the argument that undergrads shouldn't even need books, if the Profs were actually as good as most of them think they are.

    3. Re:high quality digital cameras doom textbooks by opposabledumbs · · Score: 1

      I think you got that backwards: it should be that the undergrads don't need Profs, if the books are any good.

      The fundamentals of University education should be an excellent library and time to explore your subject in it. You shouldn't rely on teachers there to get your education.

    4. Re:high quality digital cameras doom textbooks by mfnickster · · Score: 1

      I think you got that backwards: it should be that the undergrads don't need Profs, if the books are any good.

      Thanks to the DPMCA (the Digital Post-Modernist Copyright Act), it's now required to have a professor explain post-modernist works to you.

      Any device which enables you to circumvent the professor and understand Lacan or Derrida directly can land you in jail!

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    5. Re:high quality digital cameras doom textbooks by dontmakemethink · · Score: 1

      And a new department of the MAFIAA is born... coming soon to a courtroom near you!

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    6. Re:high quality digital cameras doom textbooks by PingPongBoy · · Score: 1

      This is a market that relies on outrageous reproduction prices just like cd's used to. They are equally doomed. I know a LOT of college students who no longer buy books ... they rent them for free by buying them, shooting them, and returning them.

      At the price of a book, it is understandable ... but if the revenues drop from book sales, they will go up in tuition. After all, who writes the books? Profs. Where do profs work? Schools.

      In fact, the higher tuition has some possibilities. Book prices can be reduced, perhaps even to zero as free downloads. The camera industry might suffer a bit, but everyone is buying a camera anyways.

      Indeed, what business model would befit this new era? Perhaps a subscription or a tax is the way, where downloads are free but based on the number of copies a publisher would receive a portion of a pool of funds? Newspapers may as well get something from this too, and the world will stay spinning.

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    7. Re:high quality digital cameras doom textbooks by Surt · · Score: 1

      Publishers are unnecessary intermediaries. We want to eliminate them for the sake of societal efficiency. All books should be electronic in a few years, and at that point, publishers will go away to be replaced by publicists if anything.

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    8. Re:high quality digital cameras doom textbooks by SwedishPenguin · · Score: 1

      Well professors are already paid to write these books, it's not like they refrain from working on the book while at work. Universities giving professors some kind of incentive to write books and publish them for free electronically would be much preferred to the current system of book publishers cashing in at the expense of poor students. It's not like the authors actually receive that much of the price of a book anyway, most of it goes to the publisher.

      And this is a great idea. I tend to download books off the Internet when I can find them, it saves me a ton of money, but I've never bought a book only to copy and return it.

  18. e-versions . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The publisher of the textbooks I use offer e-versions. The e-versions are cheaper than the physical book, and even though they are copy-protected, they can easily be saved as a pdf file.

    1. Re:e-versions . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Interesting, can you share with the name of the publishers you talk about?

    2. Re:e-versions . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ..and please quantify "cheaper"?

    3. Re:e-versions . . . by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Do you really want your books to be Jeff Bezos'ed at anytime?
      http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/18/amazon_removes_1984_from_kindle/

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  19. Bandsaw by skroz · · Score: 1

    Just use a bandsaw to cut off the spine and feed it through a normal scanner with a sheet feeder. Duh. Faster, cheaper, and better results along the spine.

    Oh, you wanted to keep the books INTACT?

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    1. Re:Bandsaw by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Using a bandsaw assumes that he's buying the books, so can destroy them abandon if he wishes. With all the whining about the cost of books, I doubt he's buying them.

      If he really is buying them, scanning them and keeping them, the what relevance is the cost of the books and why is the cost of books even mentioned in the article?

  20. better wy by cinnamon+colbert · · Score: 3, Informative

    from the comments with the article
    posted by: irrational | 12/11/09 | 11:56 pm

    I do it in 5 steps, and you get rid of the book when you’re done since you don’t need to store it. After you get done putting 200 hours into your creation, you’ll have spent thousands of dollars worth of your time. I solved this problem much more quickly years ago:

    1. Buy a good sheet-fed and high-speed scanner. I have a Panasonic KV-S2026 color.
    2. Get a decent jigsaw from Home Depot. Use metal cutting blades (24 teeth/inch or better)
    3. Saw the spines off the book and for God’s sake use some C-clamps on each end of the book. Preferably sandwich them between two flat boards.
    4. Remove and feed sheets through the scanner to OmniPage and text recognize the pages.
    5. Save as PDF.
    6. Repeat. You now have searchable digital books!

    1. Re:better wy by Surt · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Even thousands of dollars worth of your time can be recouped easily over 4-5 years of college book costs. And rarely will a college student find a job that pays better than scanning their own books to save book costs.

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    2. Re:better wy by stephows · · Score: 1

      An excellent method if you don't mind damaging the books. Not so good if you are borrowing books (which is technically piracy anyway) or if you just want to keep the original books in good condition, perhaps for resale in later years.

    3. Re:better wy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Although a little slower, an Olfa wheel knife works 1000 times better than a jigsaw at disassembling hardcovers, paperbacks and magazines alike.

    4. Re:better wy by mr_zonules · · Score: 1

      Or, Goto a print shop (or work for one, like me!). Cut the books with a big Guillotine clamp cutter (Super clean edges better than the original cut), then throw it through a modern copier with a RADF (Reversing Automatic Document Feeder) that automagically duplex scans in order straight to PDF. this takes about 90 seconds of human intervention if the book isn't too big (You'll probably have to put the book in the feeder in several lifts). I've done this for a class that had a HUGE hardback that we only used a couple chapters from (and I bought a funky used book for much cheaper). Also, if you want the book back in it's semi-original state, just re-bind it. Rough-cut edges may work better for long-term, but padding the books works good enough for the 2 times you'll actually pull out the original from the library. PLUS, you can put cool custom spines on your books (barcoded, for sure). -Z

    5. Re:better wy by MartinSchou · · Score: 1

      Sure, but then you can't sell the book when you're done with it.

      A perfectly good book (used only once to scan it) and its accompanying digitized version (he's not allowed to keep it after all) will fetch a lot more than a cut up book or even bulk recycled paper.

    6. Re:better wy by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      After you get done putting 200 hours into your creation, you'll have spent thousands of dollars worth of your time.

      That's only if you're in a position where someone will pay you for those 200 hours. If nobody is willing to pay you for them, your time is worth exactly bupkis. A student's time is worth far less than a professional's. And if you don't have the money for the books, but do have the money for the scanner, then you are indeed well-paid for your efforts.

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    7. Re:better wy by autophile · · Score: 1

      3. Saw the spines off the book and for God's sake use some C-clamps on each end of the book. Preferably sandwich them between two flat boards.

      That worked great for those books from the 17th century that I put online and are now searchable. However, for some reason the library won't let me back in for more...?

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    8. Re:better wy by DigitalCrackPipe · · Score: 1

      There are a lot of people who have no interest in desecrating their books, and for them that method is useless. This is a non-destructive method. Note in the article it mentions the 90 degree bend to not destroy the spine as with flatbed scanning.

  21. A million monkeys... by Vegard · · Score: 1

    might not be able to *write* the entire collection of Shakespeare, but with this setup, I'm quite sure that they would be able to digitize it!

  22. Well, ironically by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Ironically, all these books that he and others are trying to scan into a digital format where created in a digital format from the start, sitting on a publisher's computer somewhere.

    Thanks copyright laws! Thank you very little.

    1. Re:Well, ironically by Ralph+Spoilsport · · Score: 2, Informative
      Even more evil: because some students are blind or vision impaired, they need digital copies they can have their computers blow up in size on screen or read audibly to them.

      This means that every textbook HAS a doc or PDF version you can get from the publisher. As a professor I regularly get pdf versions of my text books for "disabled" students who can't afford the $95 these leeches charge for the text I use.

      I'm in the process of putting together a "text pack" that consists of short excerpts from dozens of books and journals that I will put together as a pdf and give to the students. Fuck these leeches. They piss me off.

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    2. Re:Well, ironically by dontmakemethink · · Score: 1

      Imagine how many trees we wouldn't have gotten to beat to a pulp though!

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    3. Re:Well, ironically by Taxman415a · · Score: 1

      It's even more evil than that. Only some publishers give out those digital texts to students (even those with registered disabilities), and many of those that do drag their feet and sometimes never supply the texts. I think it depends on the subject, but there's a very low hit rate with math or science books that have a lot of notation in them. Those books almost certainly exist in some text and LaTeX form at some point, which would be ideal for some of the experimental screen reader projects and those that can see if the text is blown up. But they'll never ever give out the LaTeX sources. Those same books are a near failure to run through OCR. None of the current commercial systems handle math notation well. Every book nowadays is stored at some point in an electronic format. Some take a little more work than others to get into an accessible form, but not existing in an electronic form is no longer an excuse.

      I even had a professor that had written the text and had the LaTeX sources, but was prevented by the publisher from giving those out.

  23. Re:Are there scanners that accept a stack of sheet by Surt · · Score: 3, Insightful

    One semester's worth of books in college today runs around $1000. With this device you can return the books after you've scanned them. If you rip out the binding, most bookstores are going to frown on returns.

    So this device saves about $700 the first semester, and $1000/semester after that.

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  24. Re:Are there scanners that accept a stack of sheet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Yes. The photocopier in the maths department where I work scans a stack of sheets and emails the pdfs to you. Others can save it to a usb flash drive. It is great for things like theses we have lost source for but have unbound. But the point of the machine described here is to scan whole books non destructively.

  25. Did the same thing with just a single camera by milesw · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm amazed at how good OCR has gotten. I did the same thing without building anything: just connected my Canon PowerShot A540 to a tripod, lay the tripod on a coffee table, put the book on the floor, and started snapping away. Fed the JPGs to ABBYY FineReader 10, and it spit out plain text that was *at least* 97-98% accurate on every page. I did not use any special lights, do not know anything about photography, and frankly thought I'd have to buy all sorts of special equipment. The only other thing I added for convenience sake was Dirk's CanoRemote so that I would not move the camera (however imperceptibly) every time I pressed the shutter.

    1. Re:Did the same thing with just a single camera by hansamurai · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I was reading about OCR accuracy in my Game Developer magazine just last night, and they were lamenting that 98% accuracy really wasn't good enough for them. I know that the difference between personal and professional use is rather wide, but they printed a few sentences with 98% accuracy and I will admit, it was distracting. Of course, if they hadn't mentioned, would I have noticed?

    2. Re:Did the same thing with just a single camera by ShooterNeo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      When you OCR the resulting PDFs from using a scanner, you use a mode that includes data from the original scan. For instance, I just use Adobe Acrobat's "clear scan" OCR mode. What it does is it OCRs the text, and uses the OCR data to sharpen the scan of the letters in the PDF document. It then downsamples all the image data to a resolution that you specify. Basically, the resulting PDF is a hybrid between an OCRed file and the original image data that was scanned in. You can easily read all of the text, even letters that were not recognized properly by the OCR. The only problem this creates it that the text is not fully searchable : sometimes, a word that wasn't OCRed right will not be found in a text search, even though it's perfectly readable in the text. What you do then is do it old school : scroll to the bottom of the PDF of the book and look at the actual index. Then type the page number into the box at the top, and acrobat will jump right to that page.

      Problems : Acrobat is kind of slow on most computers. I think once I get a quad core with an SSD it'll be instantly fast, though. The second problem is that these hybrid PDF files are huge. A textbook takes up about a gigabyte at the quality level I scan them at. Not a problem at all though if you are reading the files on a beefy desktop PC with huge high resolution displays, though. (and such a PC would ironically cost less than a semester or two worth of textbooks...the PC would cost roughly $1500-$2000)

  26. Copier by paiute · · Score: 1

    I thought about doing this several years ago to archive a huge stack of old lab notebooks, then we bought some Ricoh copiers that were also scanners with a platen large enough to scan two pages at once. I was able to turn a 300 page notebook into pdfs in about a half hour.

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  27. Dupe ? by eulernet · · Score: 2, Informative
  28. on a related note by vrmlguy · · Score: 1

    I have a project that requires text recognition. I'm need to quickly identify the presence of text URLs in several thousand photographs. In the easy cases, the URL is a solid color on a contrasting background, added as a band across the top or bottom of the photo. But in the hard cases it's a partially transparent watermark across the center of the photo that may be rotated several degrees from horizontal. The good news is that the URLs all start with "http://", and I don't need the software to capture the entire URL, just let me know that it's present. I need a solution that is faster than a human and reasonably reliable. Can current OCR software handle this? Thanks!

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    1. Re:on a related note by jimicus · · Score: 1

      If it can't directly, OCR to a plain text file and grep for http:///

    2. Re:on a related note by Agamous+Child · · Score: 1

      How do you get a job in the porn web industry anyway?

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  29. Camera batteries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I used to use my Sony DSCP72 Cyber-shot 3.2MP digital camera to digitize chapters of my text books in college and convert them to PDF (I forget what software I used), but I stopped once I realized I never actually read them. The major limiting factor in how many pages I could scan at once was the camera's battery life, and in this design the cameras he uses are still powered by AA batteries. Being able to use an AC adapter would be useful, though that's really just a limitation of the cameras he's using. Since turning off the flash improves the camera's battery life a lot, the halogen light is nice to keep the images bright. The other improvements over simply taking the pictures with a camera are pretty minor, but definitely make it less cumbersome.

    Images of pages taken from my netbook's 1.3 MP camera are actually pretty readable as well. For the poor college student, simply using a webcam and some decent lighting is a viable alternative: it's a lot cheaper, more space efficient, and gets around the problem of having to use batteries, at the cost of being a bit slower, since you have to take more time setting up the book and camera and can only take one page at a time.

    1. Re:Camera batteries by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Can get rechargeable AA's. Have some roasting and ready.

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    2. Re:Camera batteries by plover · · Score: 1

      An old wall-wart from some ancient piece of electronic gear can often deliver the needed power. Anyone capable of building this scanner should be able to scrounge up a functioning replacement power source.

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  30. See also the BookLiberator, a more compact design by kfogel · · Score: 4, Interesting

    See also the BookLiberator, a somewhat more compact cube-in-cradle design, that's also easy to build. Although soon you won't have to build your own: we're prototyping a manufacturable, flat-packed kit to sell from our online store; see questioncopyright.org/bookliberator for more about the project. It should be ready next year.

    None of which is to detract from Reetz's accomplishment, of course. This renaissance in personal book scanners is going to make it easier for all of them, in the long run, especially as we can share the same open source software among all the scanners.

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  31. Cut the spine off by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On a recent visit to a copier manufacturer's show room, the account manager indicated it's pretty common for people to buy a textbook, cut off the spine, and load all the pages from said book into the copier's autoloader. Some copiers will scan both sides of the page at once when using the autoloader, so you get VERY fast double sided scanning to PDF. On top of the extra speed, you don't get the shadow effect from scanning the book with spine intact.

  32. I wonder if anyone in my area has such a rig? by erroneus · · Score: 1

    I have a book I would LOVE to preserve digitally. I have an extremely rare and out of print book -- it doesn't have an ISBN or anything! Technically, though, I believe it is copyrighted. I would like to scan it in and OCR it into a usable format that can then be put anywhere. (PDF bitmap pages are ridiculously large!) It is "Home Again" by James Edmiston. Copyright 1955 by James Ewen Edmiston, Jr. First Edition, signed by the author. Library of Congress number 55-5265. It is a significant and important book, in my opinion, and quite likely valuable as well. (Originally sold for $4, quite likely worth a lot more now...) I wonder how long the copyright will last on this book?

    I am in Northern Virginia, so if anyone has a book scanning rig, I'd love a chance to use it.

    1. Re:I wonder if anyone in my area has such a rig? by Thing+1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I wonder how long the copyright will last on this book?

      Based on the last 40 years of Disney legislation?

      For-fucking-ever.

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    2. Re:I wonder if anyone in my area has such a rig? by erroneus · · Score: 1

      Well Merry Christmas to me! I found it! The very same file... and perhaps in the very same place. Check out the file dates in here...

      ftp://ftp.de.flightgear.org/ftp.monash.edu.au/pub/nihongo/

  33. eBook by Mista2 · · Score: 1

    Now if only textbooks came as e-books, then this whole tech would be un necessary.

    1. Re:eBook by ImNotAtWork · · Score: 1

      They do, but they cost the same and some times more than the text book. Some will have a kill date attached to the file for a small discount off the full price.

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    2. Re:eBook by DrXym · · Score: 1
      Now if only textbooks came as e-books, then this whole tech would be un necessary.

      Not if the the books are DRM'd or locked to one device. Or as long as there are freeloaders prepared to avoid paying for the material.

      In a few years we'll be hearing about people who've hooked up their Kindle DXs / Sony Readers up to a flatbed scanner so that they can automatically scan content straight off the device and OCR it. It should be pretty trivial to do too - just pop the page turn buttons and wire them up to some kind of computer controlled switch instead. Scan turn page, scan, turn page, scan etc. Could probably do most books in under 40 minutes with no user interaction.

  34. The real problem by zerofoo · · Score: 1

    "It was a watershed moment when I realized getting an 8-megapixel Canon camera was cheaper than buying a bunch of textbooks."

    There in lies the real problem. Textbooks are too damn expensive and have been for many years.

    -ted

  35. Re:Sounds great by mister_playboy · · Score: 1

    You have a Kodak printer too, eh? :P

    You can run it from a Windows VM.

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  36. So w/o the software this is . . . by wrencherd · · Score: 1

    . . . a light box and two cameras?

    Perhaps I'm not smart enough to see it, but that's a pretty low standard of DIY, even for "Instructables".

  37. this scans AND turns pages by gedw99 · · Score: 1

    http://www.youtube.com/user/bookscanner#p/c/14E09F2A975DB14F I think that it would be easy to actually make this. It uses vacuum to simply pull the pages up, and then whenit gets to the end of the page, turns off one of the vacuums t toss the page over.

    1. Re:this scans AND turns pages by iammani · · Score: 1

      Yeah its neat, but is not DYI and would cost a hell. A slashdotter above claimed he had seen one of those cost $20,000.

  38. Some people please mod this right to the top! by sonamchauhan · · Score: 1

    Mods - please mod this right to the top!

    Quoting from link:

    Or, everyone had been thinking so, until I found ...
    @that a scratch of an eraser can turn a page, and
    @that if you place the scanner upside down you don't need to flip the book,

    1. Re:Some people please mod this right to the top! by sonamchauhan · · Score: 1

      Plus it uses a normal scanner and has an automated page turner !

      Looks like the BOM is under $200

  39. Re:Are there scanners that accept a stack of sheet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Careful. I attend Concordia University (Montreal, Canada) and some books cannot be returned once unwrapped from their shrink wrap. Those books usually include an online access code, software or some other gizmo that the book store considers unsellable once open.

  40. I could have sworn I saw this on slashdot before.. by Zakabog · · Score: 1

    Something just like this setup was in a comment for an ask slashdot article -

    http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1383895&cid=29559637

  41. Re:Are there scanners that accept a stack of sheet by pbhj · · Score: 1

    I'd be for cutting off the binding of all the books and using a standard duplex scanner - you'll be able to sell the books on to a poor student (or give them away) and you'll be able to sell copies of the format shift to your fellow students; you'll need proof that a) they own the book and b) the publisher doesn't do an electronic public sale already. You could even buy a glued-tape style binding machine if you found that it was cost effective.

  42. Re:Are there scanners that accept a stack of sheet by RealGrouchy · · Score: 1

    I am skeptical that fair-use rights to create the digital copy would remain once you sell (or return) the original.

    - RG>

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  43. Plenty of links, but what about page turning? by hacker · · Score: 1

    There's plenty of people working on this at the DIY Book Scanning site, but what they all lack... is page turning. I found this great project some students came up with that is simplistic and doesn't require you to preload pages at all.

    Incorporate that, with the glass/plexi platen of the stock DIY book scanning projects, and you have a 100% complete, automatic, turn-it-on-and-walk-away book scanner from beginning to end.

  44. Re:Are there scanners that accept a stack of sheet by Surt · · Score: 1

    Oh it's absolutely illegal. But how would you ever hope to catch them?

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  45. Just saw the spine off! by saccade.com · · Score: 2, Informative

    A while back I got a Fujitsu ScanSnap S510. Now when I want to scan a book, I just saw the spine off (table saw, band saw or even a steel ruler and X-acto knife will do the trick). Take the loose sheets, about 40 at a time, and put them into the ScanSnap. The ScanSnap comes with Acrobat Pro and does a fine job of making a searchable PDF file of the book. The paper? Into the recycle bin. I've cleared off several feet of shelf space.

  46. Why PDF by shitzu · · Score: 1

    He would get much smaller file with the same or better readability with djvu

  47. Re:Are there scanners that accept a stack of sheet by MattskEE · · Score: 1

    $1000? I averaged under $500 per year on textbooks in college (graduated 1.5 years ago). It will vary based on the school you attend, the books your professors assign, and what effort you put into finding used copies or buying old editions and getting updated problem sets from the library copies or from classmates. Of course it also depends on the major you're in, I'm an engineer and I think the price gouging isn't quite as severe in this field.

    But $1000 per semester... geez... that's just not okay.

  48. automated page turners pretty cheap by ILongForDarkness · · Score: 1

    http://www.pageflip.com/Pricing.html, $350. Wireless button operated/foot peddle. I'm sure you could rig it up somehow on a timer so say every three seconds the page is turned picture taken, rinse and repeat.

    1. Re:automated page turners pretty cheap by smithberry · · Score: 1
      In the page you link to it says

      It requires the user, or care-giver, to separate up to 10 sheets (20 pages) at a time into slots that will be individually turned. Subsequent batches of pages will then need to be processed similarly.

      So still quite a bit of manual work separating blocks of 10 pages. Not sure it would save you very much time.

    2. Re:automated page turners pretty cheap by ILongForDarkness · · Score: 1

      Ah, didn't notice that. I couldn't really tell how the mechanism worked, I thought maybe somehow it stuck the little metal bits between the pages by itself. I don't see how it is much use then. They said it was for people with disablities say. It would still require an able person every 20min or so to reset the device as I'd think it would require as much or more function to place the pages on the little things than just to turn them yourself.

  49. Re:Are there scanners that accept a stack of sheet by tehcyder · · Score: 1

    If you rip out the binding, most bookstores are going to frown on returns.

    All, I'd have thought.

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  50. Re:Are there scanners that accept a stack of sheet by Surt · · Score: 1

    Most of the fields I looked at 2 years ago had books costing between 60 and 150 each, x an average of about 1 & 2/3 per class, x 5 classes to keep your graduation on schedule.

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  51. Re:Are there scanners that accept a stack of sheet by Surt · · Score: 1

    Well, yes, that one word was in jest.

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