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Porn Industry Tiptoes Into 3D Video

itwbennett writes "The 3D porn experience is coming (eventually) to a home theater near you. Most adult filmmakers are moving slowly toward 3D video because of higher production cost, the small number of 3D TVs in the home, and, of course, the glasses. Rob Smith, director of operations at Hustler Video Group says he hopes that market penetration of 3D TVs in the home is high enough that 'by the fourth quarter of this year it will be at the point where we can justify doing a 3D product.' The average adult movie costs around $25,000 to $40,000 to make, and 3D movies cost about 30% more, says Ali Joone, founder of Digital Playground. But Joone thinks the biggest hurdle for 3D isn't so much the cost as the glasses: people don't want to be encumbered by eyewear when viewing a film, says Joone."

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  1. Penetration by telchine · · Score: 5, Funny

    hehe, he said "penetration"!

    1. Re:Penetration by value_added · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, but there's more. He also said "the experience is COMING" and it's "moving SLOWLY". That suggests to me that the way it's envisioned, 3D will meet the prerequisites for the female of the species (an increasingly large demographic).

    2. Re:Penetration by houstonbofh · · Score: 4, Funny

      I am surprised that he did not mention the market penetration into both traditional porn markets, and high tech early adopters. That type of dual penetration could be highly profitable.

    3. Re:Penetration by digitig · · Score: 2, Funny

      And precisely what were you planning to do with that strap-on?

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    4. Re:Penetration by multisync · · Score: 3, Funny

      That caught my eye as well

      He could have at least given you a little warning

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    5. Re:Penetration by Shark · · Score: 2, Funny

      Soon they may add the Digital Video, Digital Audio standard: DVDA for short.

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    6. Re:Penetration by StikyPad · · Score: 4, Funny

      the female of the species (an increasingly large demographic)

      They're not fat, they're just big boned.

      Get it? Boned?

  2. Oh God by svendsen · · Score: 3, Funny

    Think of the "money" shot...shudder.

    1. Re:Oh God by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah, I'm sure. Anyone who has to go out of their way to brag about their dick size on the internet is usually about 4-5 inches smaller than they claim.

  3. Huh? by megamerican · · Score: 4, Funny

    But Joone thinks the biggest hurdle for 3D isn't so much the cost as the glasses: people don't want to be encumbered by eyewear when viewing a film, says Joone

    That's certainly what people fear most: getting caught wearing glasses while watching porn.

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    1. Re:Huh? by NoPantsJim · · Score: 4, Funny

      "encumbered by eyewear"

      I have never, ever done anything while watching porn that would have been encumbered by eyewear. I can't speak for everyone though.

    2. Re:Huh? by bughunter · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's certainly what people fear most: getting caught wearing glasses while watching porn.

      It's more like getting caught because one is wearing glasses.

      Some of us must remain as vigilant as possible while "watching porn," and find it essential that "watching porn" require the minimum amount of potentially incriminating paraphernalia as possible.

      Yeah, it sucks, but wattayagonnado?

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    3. Re:Huh? by bertoelcon · · Score: 2, Funny

      Fuck the curtains!

      Wouldn't that be a little difficult to clean up?

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    4. Re:Huh? by FauxReal · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The thing is, while wearing the glasses you might not know you've been caught until after you take them off.

  4. Been done by slim · · Score: 3, Interesting

    1969's The Stewardesses ("See the lusty stewardesses leap from the screen to your lap") "is the most profitable 3-D film in history" (Avatar may now have beaten it).

    1. Re:Been done by Nethead · · Score: 2, Funny

      So, are you going to change your .sig to include box office?

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  5. I see an Increase by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In POV porn.

  6. Triple D by Nadaka · · Score: 4, Funny

    And here I thought that Double D was more than enough.

    1. Re:Triple D by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      And here I thought that Double D was more than enough.

      Does this mean we can finally watch Eccentrica Gallumbits in all her glory?

  7. Seriously? by Evets · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Who in their right mind would actually buy a 3D tv that required you to wear glasses while viewing. That's absurd.

    1. Re:Seriously? by Zerth · · Score: 5, Funny

      I already need glasses to see just a 2d tv, you insensitive clod!

    2. Re:Seriously? by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 2, Informative

      30FPS with shutter glasses was too much flicker for some people.

      Pretty much all of the upcoming 3D TVs are in one of two categories:
      1) Alternating polarization of each line, so half resolution in 3D mode
      2) 120 Hz TVs with shutters. Right now this is the approach NVidia is backing. Problem is that apparently a lot of the 120 Hz TVs out there only do internal "mocomp" processing of 60 Hz inputs, and don't allow for native 120 Hz input.

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  8. I think by popeye44 · · Score: 3, Funny

    The need for glasses with straps holding them to your head would be a requirement.
    You know.. with all that shaking going on the glasses will come right off.

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  9. Encumbered by eyeware? by gnutrino · · Score: 5, Funny

    Surely people who watch porn regularly will already need glasses

    1. Re:Encumbered by eyeware? by FatLittleMonkey · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, I've only heard about it.

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  10. When did they ask? by EriktheGreen · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'd have said the same thing before going to "Avatar" in 3d. The usual litany of anti-3d excuses would apply:

    • The glasses give me headaches
    • The colors aren't right
    • They'll rub on my nose/ears and hurt
    • They'll distort the screen

    I think this is mostly due to hollywood/tech companies chasing the holy grail of 3d for a long time. Many, many vendors have sold products based on claims of "true 3d images" including some spectacularly bad products like the virtual boy or NVidia's attempt at 3d with LCD shutter glasses.

    But with the current crop of tech, they've finally made it useable. The glasses I used actually improved the colors, and the film was bright enough not to notice the slight darkening due to the glasses.

    After the first 15 minutes of viewing Avatar with the dark glasses (RealD 3D) on, I wouldn't want to watch it any other way.

    If you haven't seen Avatar in 3D, do so. Very worth it, and I hope other films are made that way soon. I actually made a joke about wanting to see a 3D porn film on the way out of the theater ("we'd be ducking every time the male lead stood up facing the screen").

    Erik

    1. Re:When did they ask? by srmalloy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That was the aspect of the 3D presentation that I appreciated most about Cameron's use of the technology -- without the "See? This is 3-D!" throw-into-your-face schtick older 3D movies used, it made the movie feel as if I was looking through a window at Pandora.

  11. Penetration height?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Rob Smith, director of operations at Hustler Video Group says he hopes that market penetration of 3D TVs in the home is high enough that 'by the fourth quarter of this year it will be at the point where we can justify doing a 3D product.

    WTF kind of retard is Rob Smith?! Even your average Slashdot user knows that penetration is measured in terms of depth, not height. The irony of it is that Rob Smith has probably had more pussy than the entire Slashdot userbase put together. *sigh*

    Fuck, let's slashdot Hustler!

  12. Uh, why... by cptnapalm · · Score: 3, Funny

    Does anyone really want Peter North cumming at them in 3D?

  13. why would it cost 30% more to make porn in 3D? by JustNiz · · Score: 2, Insightful

    why would it cost a massive 30% more to make porn in 3D?
    Apart from the initial investment in a stereoscopic camera, isn't every other production cost the same? Especially if you're using digital not film. I mean its not like you need to cut/splice the left and right eye-tracks differently.

    1. Re:why would it cost 30% more to make porn in 3D? by robot256 · · Score: 4, Informative

      If you had RTFA you would know that in addition to the equipment cost, filming takes longer because of the set up/tear down of twice as many cameras, and the post-processing does actually take more work to make sure both tracks are synced up properly. Also until people get used to filming in 3d there will need to be extra redos to get the actors' limbs in the picture instead of being cut off at the side of the 3d picture, which TFA says and I can imagine would be disconcerting.

    2. Re:why would it cost 30% more to make porn in 3D? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Also these are LOW (think sub 100k) budget. So an additional 10k in hw/setup/time/etc on a 40k movie is 30% more.

      They do low low low budget as they only press maybe 5k-10k total units. With a 'high budget of 50k movie they only need to sell 3500 or so to ROI. Everything else is gravy. If they get a 'hit' with one they can just press more. It is an oversaturated market. As any dope with a video camera can make one.

  14. Speaking of money shots... by maillemaker · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Speaking of money shots, why is it currently in vogue to finish all sex scenes by having the man ejaculate in the mouth and all over the face of the woman?

    Does anyone find this a turn-on? To me, it's gross and degrading. I love looking at nekkid women, but I'll pass on the blowjob and cum-on-the-face scenes. Lack of empathy, I guess.

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    1. Re:Speaking of money shots... by Rogerborg · · Score: 5, Funny

      Does anyone find this a turn-on?

      No, absolutely nobody at all finds it hot. There's simply no explanation for it.

      To me, it's gross and degrading.

      Darn skippy it is. All right thinking people prefer their porn to be clean, hygienic and a respectful paean to the mortal incarnation of the Earth Goddess. In fact, I'll only watch procreative missionary sex between a husband and wife. Fully clothed. Shot in the dark.

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    2. Re:Speaking of money shots... by Capt.DrumkenBum · · Score: 3, Funny

      All right thinking people prefer their porn to be clean, hygienic and a respectful paean to the mortal incarnation of the Earth Goddess. In fact, I'll only watch procreative missionary sex between a husband and wife. Fully clothed. Shot in the dark.

      Due to the advent of IR cameras this type of porn is getting more popular. ;)

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  15. Re:Who cares about eyeglasses!? by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 5, Informative

    I want 3D boobies!

    We've had those for a while now. They're called "women".

  16. 30,000-40,000???!!! by Loomismeister · · Score: 3, Informative

    The porn that I've researched seems to have been made on a sub-$1,000 budget, how are they spending so much money!?

    1. Re:30,000-40,000???!!! by Arthur+Grumbine · · Score: 3, Funny

      The porn that I've researched seems to have been made on a sub-$1,000 budget, how are they spending so much money!?

      Hookers and boo-- wait, no, that doesn't make sense.

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  17. The porn industry needs to stick to fundamentals by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You know, like keeping the camera in focus and not moving around and getting the camera guy to shut up?

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  18. Not for me. by MaWeiTao · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Many, if not most women in porn look pretty horrid what with the bruises, embarrassing tattoos and plastic surgery. They'll look great in one photoshoot and everywhere else they look like a drug-addled 2 dollar whore. On top of that we have to endure guys getting in the way of the action with closeups of their scrotums flopping around like a fish out of water. HD is already a problem for porn, 3D will only make things worse although at this point in the game it's more a gimmick than anything.

    Maybe all this technology will have the unintended consequence of turning people away from porn. Your average girl is more attractive than most porn stars. And with a real girl you're not usually exposed to someone who's been pounded into oblivion, viewing everything in extreme closeup.

    1. Re:Not for me. by digitig · · Score: 4, Funny

      Your average girl is more attractive than most porn stars.

      True, but your average girl won't let the average /. reader watch her doing any of that stuff.

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  19. Re:Satire? by rich_r · · Score: 2, Funny

    It was sarcasm.
    HTH

  20. Thanks, Slashdot by halcyon1234 · · Score: 5, Funny
    In a thread about porn, over half the posts are quibbles about Avatar.

    Good job, Slashdot.

  21. Re:Why do you need a 3D? by Locke2005 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yes and no. The old style 3D with a blue filter for one stereo channel and red filter for the other can be watched on standard TVs or projectors. The new digital TV uses vertically polarized light for one channel and horizontally polarized light for the other, meaning that yes, it requires 2 projection sources. There is also a scheme I saw used at IMAX that used active LCD glasses synced to the movie via infrared transmitters above the screen so that they alternately shuttered the left and right eye as the right and left image was displayed on the screen. The obvious disadvantage: big expensive battery powered glasses they had to collect from customers and sterilize after every movie. These could also be shown with old projectors, and possibly with old TVs if you could find a way to sync the glasses with the video. Interlaced video has 2 frames anyway, it should be relatively easy to just make one frame the left and the other frame the right channel.

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  22. Re:Who cares about eyeglasses!? by Santzes · · Score: 3, Funny

    Score:3, Informative

    Only on slashdot

  23. No glasses displays by spitzak · · Score: 2, Informative

    These need 8 or more images to work, although it is quite possible to interpolate them from the 2 images of a normal stereo movie. This is currently nowhere near real time and sometimes some hints are needed for it to be done right. However I could imagine this becoming a standard: either the interpolation data is stored in the movie as it is far smaller than the images, or processing gets fast enough and the alogorithms good enough that it can be calculated from 2 pictures in real time.

    The reason 8 images are needed is that at any position you are seeing image n and n+1 mod N where N is the number of images. Therefore at most positions your left eye sees one image and your right an image from a pov slightly to the right. However at some locations you see image N-1 and 0 and the eyes are reversed. Minimizing the size of these "wrong" positions requires N to be as high as possible.

  24. OK. The wife is finally gone ... by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 5, Informative

    "Many, if not most women in porn look pretty horrid what with the bruises, embarrassing tattoos and plastic surgery."

    You seriously need to get yourself a better source for your porn.

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  25. Re:Who cares about eyeglasses!? by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 2, Funny

    I want 3D boobies!

    We've had those for a while now. They're called "women".

    How come nobody on this site understands Supply and Demand, even when certain examples hit so close to home?

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  26. Re: Dare I Say by The+Wild+Norseman · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm actually uncertain what will happen to the adult movie industry after this kind of growth spurt. I mean, we've all seen what kind of a mess can take place when a company prematurely comes from behind or tries to pull out when all they really need is a little coaxing. Of course, it's not like the porn industry has to bend over backwards to provide entertainment these days.

    I think once the porn industry stops jerking us around and really starts playing hardball, then I can really get excited. I don't even mind that the porn industry kisses my ass or strokes my ego or throws the general audience a bone now and again, but this could be gigantic. I don't think I really could go either way; I've made up my mind -- I'm straight up ready and willing for this next big thing.

    In fact, I'm just about ready to give the porn industry a helping hand.

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  27. Re:can't these guys do two screens, dump the glass by dzfoo · · Score: 2, Funny

    Then plug the active flicking thingy directly into your skull and make your eyes blink alternately, in sync with the screen--no glasses needed!

    You read it here first. My patent is pending.

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