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China Begins Monitoring Billions of Text Messages

eldavojohn writes "The Telegraph is reporting that China has begun monitoring 'billions of text messages' in order to increase censorship. However, a People's Daily article claims they only monitor users who have been reported, and only shut down their message service if the complaints are true. Anything considered pornographic will require the user to bring a letter of guarantee to the local public security bureau promising to never again send such messages before service can be reactivated."

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  1. Monitoring is universal by Kanel · · Score: 4, Informative

    private text messages are being recorded in the US as well, by the government and possibly private enterprises too. Recall the text messages sent on 9/11, which was posted anonymously on wikileaks.org. The only difference between the west and china is that they act upon the monitored data more extensively, the breach of privacy is the same.

    1. Re:Monitoring is universal by maxume · · Score: 4, Informative

      Those were pager messages, not SMS messages (the way pagers work, any dude with some equipment can listen to *everything*; the way SMS works, only the phone company can listen (well, and anyone who can order the phone company around)).

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    2. Re:Monitoring is universal by sakdoctor · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Does anyone, in any country use SMS for more than "meet in bar at 7"?
      It's 140 characters. It's expensive per tiny unit of information (UK). It spawned a whole degenerate sub language, and it's just about the lamest way that two humans can communicate.

      In china it's cheap, but I still wouldn't use it for my revolution planning. Encrypted XMPP/self run multi-protocol gateway (MSN, ICQ etc)/VOIP over 3G FTW.

    3. Re:Monitoring is universal by Kanel · · Score: 5, Informative
      The european SMS "culture" appears more widespread and mature than the US one. It has been a killer app since the late 90's, when prices dropped. I recall being surprised around 2002 when talking with US friends and realizing that many of them had cellphones with no SMS capability. "surely your cellphone is broken or something?" I asked.

      As for cheap, in parts of Africa there's almost a whole "language" based on the messages you can send just by calling and hanging up before it answears. the time of day or no. of missed calls forms a code that can be transmitted for free.

  2. Evil. by headkase · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ok, exactly how Evil is the Chinese government? I'm all for trade with them because it keeps our relationship stable so we don't actually start killing each other but my opinion of their government style is that it has to go. Their government is Evil from my value system and I would love to see the Chinese people do something about that. Hell, I would even provide material support electronically but I wouldn't go there.

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  3. Re:Doesn't this violate the 1st Amendment? by Majik+Sheff · · Score: 4, Funny

    Score:-1, Facepalm

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  4. Re:Doesn't this violate the 1st Amendment? by lorg · · Score: 4, Informative

    No. They live in China, they don't have your fancy 1st Amendment.

  5. Re:Government protest? by stoat · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's a similar procedure, but when you go down to the local public security bureau with your letter of guarantee they shoot you in the head and harvest your organs.

  6. Re:Doesn't this violate the 1st Amendment? by mysidia · · Score: 3, Insightful

    China and the US both need to upgrade to Constitution v2.0

    Remember all those laws the US passed? Communications Decency Act....

    With the right party in power (unfortunately), I could see the US having gone down the same path.

    There's already much precedent in this area.. think FCC regulations and TV/radio broadcasters, talk shows, etc.

    The reason would be the same as usual.... think of the children!

  7. But in the us you don't go to jail for religion th by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 3, Interesting

    But in the us you don't go to jail for being a part of the religion that is not the one the sate forces you to be in.

  8. Re:Why does China dislike porn so much? by Psyborgue · · Score: 3, Insightful

    When people are willing to give up sovereignty of their sex lives, they'll give up pretty much anything. That is why the emphasis is there. It's not like the state gives a shit about what people do with their naughty bits. It's just a test to make sure people comply with the absurd. Those who resist are likely to be troublemakers elsewhere.

  9. Pornographics words not to use in SMS while in Chi by DeltaQH · · Score: 5, Funny

    Here are some examples:

    Down with CCP
    Free Tibet
    Free Xinjiang
    Rule of law
    Down with the Great Firewall
    Human rights
    Multiparty sytem
    Accountability
    Melanine
    Children crushed by crumbling schools
    Forced abortion
    Chapter 08
    You have nice pecks baby.

    Just think of the children!!

  10. I wonder how far they can push it by Psyborgue · · Score: 3, Insightful

    before the people revolt and the blood of these assholes runs in the streets. Sadly, i'm leaning towards the believe that the people will probably take it. They know no other way.

  11. Logistics by adbge · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Ethical concerns aside, it would be extremely interesting to see how censorship on this large of a scale is implemented.

    I wonder how effective automated modern systems will be at filtering, and how much of the censorship will have to rely on human employees. Total cost? Effectiveness? Cultural implications?

  12. idk by Rick+Zeman · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I think it'd be hard enough for computers to decipher English LOL-speak, much less Chinese.

    Sooo, who is going to offer the first hardware encryption in handsets...and how soon would THAT be forbidden?

  13. I'm fascinated ... by PPH · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ... by the parallels between the Chinese and American right wingers' war on pornography. I'd think that the Chinese would be more intent on stamping out possible challenges to Communist rule (Falun Gong), independence movements (Tibet) and threats to national security. The American conservative logic is more understandable. The economic conservatives don't care about porn per se (its just another business after all), but in order to assemble a viable voting block, their 'deal with the devil' (the religious right) requires that they adopt their position that every ejaculation must have a name. The Chinese don't suffer from the same political pressures as the GOP does. There's no opposition party espousing sexual freedom that could benefit from the circulation of porn. Sitting at home wanking in front of the computer screen is not an activity around which groups tend to organize.

    Although the battle cry of our right wingers has been "Godless Commies", it seems that these two groups share quite a bit of ideology.

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  14. Self censorship and conservative thought by Colin+Smith · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Cutting naughty or unacceptable words out of daily conversation is their endgame.

    Look. What they are doing is persuading people to censor themselves, and to think conservatively. The endgame is behaviour modification.

    You don't actually have to read every message. You simply tell people that everything they write or say is monitored.

    It's literally FUD.

       

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  15. Here's the deal. by eddy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Anyone who doesn't think every SMS in the US (for example) is passed into the NSA is naive beyond belief. The difference is that in the west doing this snooping is still a 'dirty secret', while in china they see value in the people knowing they're monitored. Keeps everything calm. In the west being open about this would have the opposite effect, and we all want everything to remain calm, right? They all do it "for the people" of course.

    The EU as a whole isn't there yet, but the infrastructure is coming up as fast as the laws can be pushed through.

    Even if your local government quite dislike the idea of Total Interception, they'll still do it because information is the currency in the global military industrial information complex. If moscow will trade you information about Al-Qaeda for information about some chinesee dissident in your country...

    Sheesh, nowadays you can't talk about the world we live in without sounding like a friggin nutcase.

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  16. US 1st amendment corresponds to their Article 35 by tepples · · Score: 4, Informative

    No. They live in China, they don't have your fancy 1st Amendment.

    You're right. All citizens of China have is Article 35, translated: "Citizens of the People's Republic of China enjoy freedom of speech, of the press, of assembly, of association, of procession and of demonstration."