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ChromeOS Zero Released
charliesome writes "Hexxeh, a student from the United Kingdom, has been the source for ChromeOS builds since the release of the Google operating system. He's just released ChromeOS Zero, a small build designed for speed and aesthetics. He recently did an interview with The Chrome Source."
Wake up MS. There another new kid on the block as rich as you.
I don't get who this guy is. He was the source for ChromeOS builds?!? Google dropped it?! How does this guy handle Google's builds?
I don't get it.
ChromeOS Zero - what's so special about it?
ChromeOS Zero - is the first OS API with no functions.*
*Not a low-calorie OS.
This is ChromiumOS, and the open source he has is Chromium OS too. There's a differrent between Chromium and Chrome, like the browser. Corect me.
They are different in that google only releases the source.
If you have ever installed linux from scratch or some similar OS, you can install chrome. As far as I understand, google has no plans to release chrome OS binaries, They expect anyone installing Chrome OS to be able to compile code from source.
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Yeah, that shitty old Gmail has sure made my life hell. Same with that crappy Google Voice number that I use. And don't get me started on pile of steaming feces Google maps is. I just wish there was a good web search that I could use to find replacements.
-- I have a private email server in my basement.
...because as it is now it's slower than Windows 7 on my eee701.
At this stage (nconsidering it's a one-man show) you still need to roll your own: http://www.downloadsquad.com/2009/12/04/how-to-convert-hexxehs-chrome-os-build-image-to-a-virtualbox-v/
Conversion is broken in Zero, you'll need to download Cherry for that, I'm working on it, but like you said, one man show and I have college too. :/
http://chromeos.hexxeh.net/ChromeOS-Cherry.torrent for the cherry build.
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GMail is fantastic. And by "GMail", I basically mean how it can be used as an SMTP server and IMAP server by a real mail client. The only people I know who use its shitty web-based interface are people who don't have the brains to set up Thunderbird, Evolution, Apple Mail or even Outlook to access their account.
Or the millions of us who simply want to access their email in the same way across multiple systems without having to pointlessly rely on another client-based program to set up, read, and send email. It's bad enough dealing with ISPs that ONLY allow you to send through their SMTP gateways, let alone dealing with firewalls that filter IMAP/SMTP connections in both directions and content filters that block web-based email services altogether. All for the sake of running your own email client? Thanks but no thanks.
It doesn't take "brains" to realize that sometimes simplicity is key, and the web interface is good enough, and in some cases(search speeds) is superior to damn near any client. And a mail client is a mail client is a mail client. None of them are the next coming of email.
Why wouldn't you want hop on any computer, login, and have access to everything you need? If your hard drive crashes, ya lose everything. If you're backups fail, ya lose everything. It is much more likely that your cheap ass newegg hardware fails than an entire cloud with numerous amounts of redundancy to simply lose your data. I think people need to start putting more trust in to the cloud because it is a fucking hell of a lot better than what 90% of computer users have. Which is nothing as far as backups are concerned. Yea it's not perfect for everybody, but I honestly think people need to give it a try. Gamers worried too? Shit, you'd be surprised at all the awesome games that have been ported to Flash. Look at Quake for example. I know it's old, but think about the potential. That is the point of all this. It's not about what it can currently do (which is still a pretty large amount of shit), it's rather what it will become (which will be even more incredible). "Shitty Web Apps" fuel most of the fucking small businesses in this entire country. Did you ever think about that? Look at PSA and CRM software like ConnectWise. Multi-million dollar software companies that use ASP.NET apps. All they need is a toolkit and a web browser. If it can help small businesses (which is does), then it will help everyone else too.
I was testing an earlier ChromeOS build in VMWare and although it worked OK when at home, on a network with proxy went to click the option to configure proxy, it opens up another tab in the browser - "Page cannot be displayed" - the proxy page couldn't be displayed unless I already had an internet connection working, and without setting the proxy I couldn't get an internet connection.
You need to do it via terminal right now sorry since there's no UI in place, edit /usr/bin/chromeos-chrome-login and chromeos-chrome-loop to add the --proxy-server flag to the bottom.
And enjoy the ad revenues, you deserve them!
I'm putting money from the ads back into paying for the server/bandwidth, more users means more bandwidth for the updates, and bandwidth isn't free. I do this because I enjoy making/doing something people find useful, not to make a profit. And maybe to see if I can get noticed by some companies, that too. ;)
If my ADSL connection is down for thirty minutes, I can't do anything with the piece of hardware and software sitting on my desk. Since all the apps are on ... the Internet.
So ... WHY would anybody use this???
Anybody remember GMail's outtages ... ???
Looks like vendor lock-in to me ... all depends on Google. If Google ever goes bye-bye, all your data goes bye-bye too.
Can anybody explain to me , please ... Why???
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Reminds me of that Finnish college kid who was too cheap to buy a copy of minix and tried to make his own operating system back in 1991. Whatever happened to him?
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Well okay, but aside from free voicemail and call forwarding, a free tiling map engine with some of the best map data there is, and the best web search engine, what has Google ever done for us?
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Where to begin, where to begin... You are so full of shit and misconception that it's difficult to start tearing you and your pathetic arguments apart.
Using X tunneled over SSH, I already have access to my main desktop system. I can access it from work, I can access it from my smartphone, I can access it from my netbook. I don't use other public computers, because I can't trust their security. Only a fucking moron would dare use a public computer for anything that requires a login.
The "Cloud" that you worship is full of shit. I've been working with computers and networks since the early 1970s, and we saw all this "Cloud" crap back when mainframes were king. I know you're probably just a teenager, and don't have any experience with large systems and networks, but there was a reason we moved away from mainframes towards PCs. Mainly, it was because centralization of any sort is a very dangerous thing. And yes, your precious "Cloud" is centralized. Even small failures of centralized infrastructure end up being very costly.
The moment you lose Internet connectivity, and it will happen, you're absolutely fucked. You can't access your files, for instance. If you're using web "apps" then you can't even access the applications! You're beyond fucked at that point. Now your fantastic netbook running Chrome OS is nothing more than an expensive way of displaying a "Cannot connect to server" error message.
Given the amount of data that various "Cloud" providers are dealing with, it's very doubtful that they have appropriate backup solutions in place. The cost to do it properly would be astronomical, even if you factor in their economies of scale. I trust myself to back up my own data much more than I could ever trust some admins at Amazon or Google or some lesser host.
So it's 2010, and we can play games from 1996 in our web browser using Flash? That's not an accomplishment, you stupid dumbfuck. But yeah, the potential is really amazing. Just think, in 2025 we'll be able to play games from today! SO MUCH POTENTIAL!
I do a lot of consulting for large and small clients, and very few use web apps for anything serious. You never see POS systems implemented as web apps, for instance, because they're too unreliable. (Oh, and since I know you've got absolutely no industry experience, "POS" stands for point-of-sale. We're talking about the software you see running on cash registers.)
If you ever manage to get a job, you should try to see how large companies use web apps. You'll find out that most don't, or if they do, it's for some near-meaningless task. One insurance company I works with does use an ASP.NET app. Do you know what it does? It maintains the roster of their goddamn company baseball league. A small finance company I know of uses a JavaServer Faces-based web app to schedule who is going to get coffee for the office. They wouldn't trust anything serious to a web application. All of their serious applications are desktop applications.
I'll give you credit for having the balls to try and defend some of the shittiest technology (yes, even worse than Microsoft Windows) to ever come along. I sure hope your post was just an exercise in devil's advocatery. But if you do take yourself seriously, I sincerely hope that you never get into the computing field. You and your stupid ideas will be torn apart in the real world, and unlike the pain I've just delivered to you here, it will hurt you and your pathetic "career" a whole lot more.
You really need to get laid.
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Chrome Zero, your first sugar free OS.