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ChromeOS Zero Released
charliesome writes "Hexxeh, a student from the United Kingdom, has been the source for ChromeOS builds since the release of the Google operating system. He's just released ChromeOS Zero, a small build designed for speed and aesthetics. He recently did an interview with The Chrome Source."
interesting
Wake up MS. There another new kid on the block as rich as you.
I don't get who this guy is. He was the source for ChromeOS builds?!? Google dropped it?! How does this guy handle Google's builds?
I don't get it.
ChromeOS Zero - what's so special about it?
Are they vying for more beta testers?
Maybe the story here is this is an exercise of freedom made possible by community access to open source, documentation, and the right of redistribution.
Camping on quad since 1996.
You mean like, say, Linux?
I suppose new Linux distributions get featured here too from time to time.
ChromeOS Zero - is the first OS API with no functions.*
*Not a low-calorie OS.
This is ChromiumOS, and the open source he has is Chromium OS too. There's a differrent between Chromium and Chrome, like the browser. Corect me.
As it stands, Chrome OS is pretty useless for most people. From what we've seen so far, Chromium OS is so locked-down and artificially limited that it's just not worth using. You're better off just using Chrome on Ubuntu. At least then you're not stuck using just shitty web apps.
Independent distributions like this are the only way we'll see Chrome OS be made useful, when the distribution creators remove the artificial limitations that Google has introduced.
They are different in that google only releases the source.
If you have ever installed linux from scratch or some similar OS, you can install chrome. As far as I understand, google has no plans to release chrome OS binaries, They expect anyone installing Chrome OS to be able to compile code from source.
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This guy should distribute this as a VirtualBox machine or so. Do I really want to *boot* into something that is just a browser without an OS and without apps? Gimme something to use and to play with on the side and I may have fun with it. Pulling my teeth would be more fun than booting into Chrome on a real machine, sorry.
...because as it is now it's slower than Windows 7 on my eee701.
And considering the amount of griping people do about installing Linux or even Windows, there going to get, very, very little market share if they don't provide a reasonable install option.
The plan is installed by the manufacturer.
The only other place that seems to be installing chrome OS is as an upgrade to existing thin clients.
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I was testing an earlier ChromeOS build in VMWare and although it worked OK when at home, on a network with proxy went to click the option to configure proxy, it opens up another tab in the browser - "Page cannot be displayed" - the proxy page couldn't be displayed unless I already had an internet connection working, and without setting the proxy I couldn't get an internet connection.
If my ADSL connection is down for thirty minutes, I can't do anything with the piece of hardware and software sitting on my desk. Since all the apps are on ... the Internet.
So ... WHY would anybody use this???
Anybody remember GMail's outtages ... ???
Looks like vendor lock-in to me ... all depends on Google. If Google ever goes bye-bye, all your data goes bye-bye too.
Can anybody explain to me , please ... Why???
underrated
Reminds me of that Finnish college kid who was too cheap to buy a copy of minix and tried to make his own operating system back in 1991. Whatever happened to him?
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Yeah... but this kid downloaded something from Google, not creating his own OS from zero.
Where to begin, where to begin... You are so full of shit and misconception that it's difficult to start tearing you and your pathetic arguments apart.
Using X tunneled over SSH, I already have access to my main desktop system. I can access it from work, I can access it from my smartphone, I can access it from my netbook. I don't use other public computers, because I can't trust their security. Only a fucking moron would dare use a public computer for anything that requires a login.
The "Cloud" that you worship is full of shit. I've been working with computers and networks since the early 1970s, and we saw all this "Cloud" crap back when mainframes were king. I know you're probably just a teenager, and don't have any experience with large systems and networks, but there was a reason we moved away from mainframes towards PCs. Mainly, it was because centralization of any sort is a very dangerous thing. And yes, your precious "Cloud" is centralized. Even small failures of centralized infrastructure end up being very costly.
The moment you lose Internet connectivity, and it will happen, you're absolutely fucked. You can't access your files, for instance. If you're using web "apps" then you can't even access the applications! You're beyond fucked at that point. Now your fantastic netbook running Chrome OS is nothing more than an expensive way of displaying a "Cannot connect to server" error message.
Given the amount of data that various "Cloud" providers are dealing with, it's very doubtful that they have appropriate backup solutions in place. The cost to do it properly would be astronomical, even if you factor in their economies of scale. I trust myself to back up my own data much more than I could ever trust some admins at Amazon or Google or some lesser host.
So it's 2010, and we can play games from 1996 in our web browser using Flash? That's not an accomplishment, you stupid dumbfuck. But yeah, the potential is really amazing. Just think, in 2025 we'll be able to play games from today! SO MUCH POTENTIAL!
I do a lot of consulting for large and small clients, and very few use web apps for anything serious. You never see POS systems implemented as web apps, for instance, because they're too unreliable. (Oh, and since I know you've got absolutely no industry experience, "POS" stands for point-of-sale. We're talking about the software you see running on cash registers.)
If you ever manage to get a job, you should try to see how large companies use web apps. You'll find out that most don't, or if they do, it's for some near-meaningless task. One insurance company I works with does use an ASP.NET app. Do you know what it does? It maintains the roster of their goddamn company baseball league. A small finance company I know of uses a JavaServer Faces-based web app to schedule who is going to get coffee for the office. They wouldn't trust anything serious to a web application. All of their serious applications are desktop applications.
I'll give you credit for having the balls to try and defend some of the shittiest technology (yes, even worse than Microsoft Windows) to ever come along. I sure hope your post was just an exercise in devil's advocatery. But if you do take yourself seriously, I sincerely hope that you never get into the computing field. You and your stupid ideas will be torn apart in the real world, and unlike the pain I've just delivered to you here, it will hurt you and your pathetic "career" a whole lot more.
You really need to get laid.
No, he didn't create his own OS from Zero, but his release is far more usable than Google's release
Since you're running the builds, you should probably be checking your firewall's connections table via 'show conn' or whatever, to see...
You do have a firewall on your network, don't you?
Microsoft salivates when it thinks of the kind of market penetration Google has in web services. If Google were to ever go bankrupt, it's data would be the only asset which it's creditors could sell for recompense, and would most likely be treated like gold.
And install them with ChromeOS!
Reconsidering it, there is no way to sufficiently satisfy security assurances of this build without it being open source or having some sort of investment in the legitimacy of the product. As to the firewall, information could easily be sent through legitimate emails, or any number of other methods. Again, I don't doubt H3XX3H personally, it's just a general philosophy.
Yeah... but this kid downloaded something from Google, not creating his own OS from zero.
Good luck creating an OS from zero. Not even that Finnish kid could do that. He cheated. He used one too.
Insightful!
No
In addition to the build process, there are things like an update system which have been added on by H3XX3H. Actually, I just realized that he would have to release the source for his update system and any other if he wants this to be legal, wouldn't he?
Your teachers almost certainly don't know nearly enough to be able to advise you. Ask around. But one thing to remember is this: even nowadays, a degree from a reputable university is necessary to open the door at any reputable company. The days when you could go straight from school to a computer company are gone because in those days there were no relevant degree courses (I know, I was there.) But I have never regretted NOT going straight to ICL but going to Cambridge instead.
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but this OS is still a newborn.
.. but this new OS is a stillborn
couldn't resist
there going to get, very, very little market share if they don't provide a reasonable install option.
I don't think Google gives a fig about ChromeOS gaining market share as an aftermarket OS. That market is a pretty barren cow anyway.
Google is going to work with manufacturers to produce ChromeOS-based netbooks, nettops, tablets etc. which will come with the OS pre-installed and optimized for the hardware.
ChromeOS only makes sense if its stripped-down and tailored for specific thin-client hardware - otherwise, you might as well just install the Chrome browser on your current OS. A "one size fits all" installer for PCs would defeat the object.
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Chrome Zero, your first sugar free OS.
While I agree with your point, I'm not sure it applies here. I can't help but wonder.... are you saying that using ChromiumOS is within driving distance of being mainstream?
Well okay, but aside from free voicemail and call forwarding, a free tiling map engine with some of the best map data there is, and the best web search engine, what has Google ever done for us?
The aqueduct?
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It was only required because of the build that the providers put on it. To use the OS it is def not required and there is plenty of builds even for the G1 that let you skip this step now, sync to Funombol, Exchange or nothing at all if you want now.
eah... but this kid downloaded something from Google, not creating his own OS from zero.
And of course Linus has never accepted code from other programmers...
The kid is adding other kernel code to make it actually work on more systems that Google is releasing for.
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It's just as useful and has the same meaning now, the only difference is you'll be bombarded with Avatar-related jokes every time you use the metaphor.
(BTW, the magical tunneling machine in The Core was also made of unobtanium, so Avatar wasn't the first to make use of it - and The Core is a total shit movie that makes excellent comedy fodder for geeks.)
"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
Which I fully intend to do, the only bit I shall not be releasing are the encryption keys used to deliver updates via HTTPS. I'll be adding a public SVN repo soon with all the code I've written for people to criticize and improve upon.
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There are screenshots of chromium OS zero and .vmdk image to download in this link : http://www.unixmen.com/news-today/728-download-chromium-os-vmdk-virtual-machine-image