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Thomas Edison's Kindle

harrymcc writes "In 1911, Thomas Edison bragged that he could make a 40,000-page book by printing the pages on thin pieces of metal. In the mid-1930s, newspapers experimented with transmitting special editions into homes via early fax machines. In 1956, Chrysler tried to sell Americans on buying 7-inch records that could only be played on a tiny turntable built into its cars' dashboards. Over at Technologizer, I rounded up these and a dozen other fascinating, forgotten gadget ideas that didn't work out — but which foreshadowed products and technologies that eventually became a big deal."

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  1. hmmm by nomadic · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Pages 1/20,000th of an inch thick? What exactly keeps you from lopping off your fingers?

    1. Re:hmmm by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 4, Funny

      Exactly what I was thinking. I have a feeling such a book would provide a much better shave than a read.

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    2. Re:hmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Pages 1/20,000th of an inch thick? What exactly keeps you from lopping off your fingers?

      And if you dropped it in your lap....

    3. Re:hmmm by Trogre · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Do you lop off your fingers when handling Christmas tinsel? How about aluminium ("tin") foil?

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    4. Re:hmmm by SpinyNorman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Nowadsys Tinsel is made of plastic.

    5. Re:hmmm by Anonymous+Monkey · · Score: 4, Funny

      I can make a tin foil hat with my feet. It's important to practice such skills because you might get handcuffed one day.

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    6. Re:hmmm by Angst+Badger · · Score: 4, Interesting

      That's not the real problem. Nickel pages 1.27 microns thick simply don't have enough stiffness for you to be able to pick up a page without crinkling it, never mind any risk to the skin on your fingers, which is quite resilient by comparison. What Mr. Edison wasn't thinking about -- I assume he was speaking off the cuff to the interviewer, as he certainly had the technical knowledge -- was the tensile strength of nickel. If you think it's hard to handle a sheet of aluminum foil without getting it crinkled, good luck with nickel leaf.

      The other problem is that layers of printing ink have thickness. It doesn't matter a whole lot with paper (for most inks, anyway) because paper is so thick relative to the ink, but relative to 1.27 micron metal leaf, it's another matter altogether. Bear in mind that most of the ink sits on or near the surface of the paper -- if it soaked in too much it would cause the outlines of the letters to blur. And with paper, there is actually lots of empty space in the fibers for the pigment particles (mostly carbon) and the binder to settle in. Nickel leaf, on the other hand, is not fibrous, and while I suppose it might eventually be possible to cheaply mass produce sheets of nanoscale nickel fibers, it's not possible now and sure as heck wasn't in Edison's day.

      The idea of using nickel isn't an entirely bad one, though printing isn't the way to go. The Long Now Foundation -- the current project of Stewart Brand, the guy who gave us the classic hippie Whole Earth Catalog -- is working on using an excimer laser to etch 350,000 pages onto 2.8-inch nickel discs. This will be actual, unencoded, human-readable text -- if the human in question has a student-grade microscope capable of 650x magnification. The required technology already exists; the main problem, aside from the sheer expense of the equipment, is that it takes a day and a half to etch a single disc this way. I can't help but think that Brand would be better off using a chip fab to crank out more or less the same thing using the same technology we use for making tiny circuits.

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  2. Success is timing as much as great ideas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Success is timing as much as great ideas. Your customers have to be ready for it. It happens on the macro level, with mass produced products, and on the micro: I learned long ago that if my clients aren't ready to adapt a new technology, it is a waste of time to push it on them. Usually they come around to it a few years later. :)

    'Ready' usually means that it is a small mental step forward and they see a pressing need for it.

    1. Re:Success is timing as much as great ideas by socz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I completely agree. I once told my friends about an idea I had called "a home server - a server for your home." It could be used for controlling what time the AC or heating kicked in, turns lights on and off, and even opened windows blinds! Of course, the latest technology offered video playing, but it wasn't an easy feat nor practically affordable for anyone who was a professional.

      Of course I was laughed at and told "if it was such a good idea, someone would have thought of it and made it by now." So a few years pass by and technology made some awesome advancements. So now we have linux boxes that run your pool at optimum points in time to help you save money, HTPC's and gaming PC's. And that's just what a little reading will get you. The true beauty comes with taking the time to learn the systems more in depth so you can create whatever you please.

      I still await amassing enough of a fortune to start my manufacturing plant to create, patent and produce my own designs. But in the mean time I have to fight off those who say "if it was such a great idea, someone would have made it by now..."

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  3. Another invention that didn't work out by MrEricSir · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...was breaking up your article into four arbitrary pages on the web.

    Or at least, I *hope* that's what people will think in the future.

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  4. Re:There was an early fax machine in the 1860s by biryokumaru · · Score: 5, Funny

    Some of other Caselli's inventions were: an electrical marine torpedo which came back to the launching point in the event of missing the mark, an hydraulic press and an instrument that measures the speed of the locomotives.

    A torpedo that comes back if it misses? What could possibly go wrong? This man was clearly a genius!

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  5. Hellschreiber by leighklotz · · Score: 4, Informative

    Hellscrhreiber was used in the 1930's. It uses a font to send text over a wire (or radio) link, as off-on pulses for pixels.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellschreiber

    Some hams still use it, for kicks. It's got good performance in noise (weak signal mode).

  6. Re:Another Idea that will not catch on (hopefully) by isomer1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Unfortunately the Slashdot story submission process almost requires you to post the stories on your own site. The problem is that the main url for the story must be unique among all story submissions, but the writeup must also be decent (yes that second point is debatable). So if any of the bagillion other slashdot readers submits the story before you, you're out of luck. And if they write a crappy one sentence description the story gets rejected and that original url is permablocked but the submission process. The process naturally selects the autobloggers that provide a unique url (typically to their own site) and provide a good (read inflammatory) description.

  7. Mail-in mainframe access by Brett+Johnson · · Score: 5, Funny

    Side note: Popular Science used the article to introduce a service in which readers could get access to mainframe programs by filling out forms with input data and mailing them to PopSci, which would then run [the] program and send the results back in a S.A.S.E. the reader had supplied. It may have been the least real-time approach to computing in the history of the universe.

    Edward waits impatiently for the letter carrier to arrive. "Where is he?", Edward musses, checking his watch.

    Every day this week, Edward had rifled through the mail as soon as it had arrived, hoping to see that special envelope. And every day this week, the postman brought only bills and grocery store circulars.

    But today - certainly today - would be the day he would receive the results of his climate modeling simulation. It just had to come today!

    Edward sees the postman coming down the street. His mailbag seems a bit heavier today ... Could it be? Why doesn't he walk faster!?

    Finally, the mailman reaches Edward's house and pulls out a bundle of letters. Edward anxiously grabs the lot from the hands of the postman. One of the envelopes is notably thick; Edward pulls it out and checks the return address. "YES!", he exclaims, seeing it was from Popular Science. He hands back the rest of the pile and dashes up the stairs with his precious packet.

    Edward gives himself a paper cut opening the envelope, but is oblivious to the pain. His mind is focused on one thing - the test results: "Is global warming real?" Surely these results will show it beyond any reasonable doubt!

    Examining the first page, Edward's heart sinks...

    climate.c: In function 'main':
    climate.c:75: error: syntax error before '}' token

    "FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU...."