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IE 8 Is Top Browser, Google Chrome Is Rising Fast

An anonymous reader points out that the latest Net Applications numbers show that MSIE 8 has become the world's most-used browser, taking over from IE6, which has been hit by the decline in the use of Windows XP. PCMag.com emphasizes another angle on the numbers, which is that Chrome is the fastest-growing browser. Firefox's market share has stalled just below 25%. Chrome is now in third place, ahead of Safari. The Guardian's article reminds: "There's no guarantee that NetApps' numbers are accurate, and they are very unlikely to be correct to two decimal places. However, they do appear to be a good indicator of market trends."

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  1. Re:Going by rendering engines... by Eskarel · · Score: 5, Informative

    To be pedantic since you're talking about Gecko and Webkit, the layout engine for Internet Explorer is called trident, and Opera's is Presto.

  2. Re:I'm using Chrome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    ...and with the lack of features, the memory footprint isn't that much better than FF or Opera. Chrome is tricky though, every time you open a tab, Chrome creates a new process, so if you're not paying attention, it looks like Chrome has a smaller footprint than the other two.

    Chrome isn't impressive at all. FF is still my champ.

  3. Re:Who are these people? by MichaelSmith · · Score: 2, Informative

    Everybody where I work outside engineering uses IE. At the most firefox might be kind of a perversion they might dabble with one day if they want IT to know they are a rebel. I am sure that most big workplaces with big, professional IT departments will only use IE.

  4. Most of that Miscellania will be Webkit by Rix · · Score: 2, Informative

    Since it will largely be mobile browsers from iPhones, Android, and Palm, which are all Webkit based.

    1. Re:Most of that Miscellania will be Webkit by Rockoon · · Score: 3, Informative

      The vast vast majority of mobile browsers are Opera.

      iPhones, Androids, and Palms are trendy.. but they are still a minority.

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  5. Re:the more prevalent it remains, the bigger the r by MightyMartian · · Score: 2, Informative

    IE8 sucks. It particularly sucks on XP, but in general, in a slow, bloated pile of garbage. I've given up any hope that Microsoft has any capacity to build a browser that isn't pure unadulterated shit.

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  6. Re:I downloaded Chromium a few days ago by Tumbleweed · · Score: 5, Informative

    Strangely, now that I no longer browse Slashdot with Firefox, Firefox behaves significantly better than it has been. Apparently, one of the absolute worst sites for the overall performance of Firefox is this one.

    Do a validation test on this page. I just got: 104 Errors, 2 warning(s)

    *whew*

    I'd get fucking FIRED if I put out that kind of crap at work.

  7. Re:Going by rendering engines... by keeboo · · Score: 4, Informative

    The be even more pedantic, "Internet Explorer" not necessarily means a Trident engine, it could be Tasman instead.

  8. Re:I downloaded Chromium a few days ago by mister_playboy · · Score: 2, Informative

    I agree, Chromium is way, way faster than Firefox on /., and Opera is significantly slower than Firefox on /..

    The ads/popups/etc on some sites make me want to shut down Chromium, whereas trying to browse Slashdot makes me want to shut down Opera.

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  9. Re:I downloaded Chromium a few days ago by goldaryn · · Score: 2, Informative

    Though I still really wish I had Ghostery and NoScript.

    IMO there is no need for them with a good HTTP proxy like Privoxy. Add a bit of Incognito use and a good user.action file, and all is great. I made my own user.action file ages ago from the MVPs.org hosts file, and ever since the world has been good. It's here if you are interested.

  10. Re:Can someone please answer this? by WraithCube · · Score: 2, Informative

    If I remember the articles what you said is correct. There were accounts that were hacked through phishing and bugs in IE6. Actual attacks on google did not succeed and had nothing to do with IE6.

  11. Re:Can someone please answer this? by TrancePhreak · · Score: 2, Informative

    I believe MS has a free virtual machine available for testing IE6. There's absolutely no reason to need to keep a machine with valuable info so far behind any more.

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  12. Re:Can someone please answer this? by Mad+Merlin · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's also a pain to use. It BSODs on boot in KVM, you have to first boot it in another hypervisor, run mergeide, and then it'll run normally. Plus they expire every few months, so you get to do it all over again. Ultimately easier to just fly to bird to IE users.

  13. Re:Going by rendering engines... by keeboo · · Score: 4, Informative

    :)

    The reason I remember that engine is that, for ~1 year in 1999-2000, I had an Macintosh (bought it used, the new ones were horribly expensive here).
    Well, my knee-jerk reaction was to use Netscape. But the machine ran OS 7.5 and had mere 16MB RAM, and Netscape was - really - slow and unstable (the usual result of software crashes in Macs, back then, was system reset).

    Then I tried MSIE "Microsoft - yuck" for Mac. Well, not only it rendered the pages beatifully (it even did a perfect dithering job in order to simulate 24bit colors in a 15bit display), not only it was much faster but it was really stable.
    That was the day I realised "man, there _are_ talented people working in Microsoft".

    Also strange, it's the fact it was better than contemporary Windows' MSIE. For a couple of years I was puzzled why was that so, until I learned about the fact it used a different engine.

    Well, better stopping here before getting beaten, accused of treason. I'm a Linux user, it seems I'm not supposed to say anything positive related to Microsoft. ;)

  14. Re:the more prevalent it remains, the bigger the r by icebraining · · Score: 3, Informative

    You can use Webapps and that's pretty much it (although their enhanced with HTML5 local caching and such so they can be useful even in offline mode).

    It's limited to me, but it would be more than enough for many of my relatives.

  15. Re:I downloaded Chromium a few days ago by BZ · · Score: 2, Informative

    Because most of the threads are i/o threads. Low CPU usage, high latency, tend to be blocked on stuff. You don't want those operations on the same thread as your UI.

    Most of the cpu-intensive stuff Firefox does (e.g. layout) does in fact happen on one single ui thread at the moment.

  16. Re:I'm using Chrome by bkgood · · Score: 2, Informative

    Theories are nice, concrete proof is nicer.

  17. Re:Chrome by trazan · · Score: 2, Informative
  18. IE below 50% at W3Counter by rawler · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yet another angle on it, is that all IE combined has been on a steady decline for a good while, now also in January.

    Now for the FIRST TIME, w3counter puts IE below the 50%-line, which means that slightly over half of all users now actually DO run a more sensible browser.

    In my mind, that's a sign of a fantastic, and unexpected awareness amongst computer users.

  19. Re:Going by rendering engines... by Eskarel · · Score: 2, Informative

    A lot of folks don't remember it, or choose not to, but Internet Explorer 5 was once the best browser you could get and 6 was better still. The period between netscape 4.9 and a functional Mozilla build(let alone the rise of firefox among the great unwashed) was a long and dark one though, and Microsoft got complacent and let it rot.

  20. Re:skinning the goat by Martian_Kyo · · Score: 2, Informative

    Just to complete the picture after using the same Data presented in the article and summing up all internet explorers and all firfoxes we get
    ie first column firefox the second chrome third and others fourth

    68.28% 20.46% 0.00% 11.27% 100.00% March, 2009
    67.60% 21.18% 0.00% 11.22% 100.00% April, 2009
    67.26% 20.58% 0.01% 12.16% 100.00% May, 2009
    65.05% 20.47% 0.07% 14.41% 100.00% June, 2009
    62.76% 20.75% 0.13% 16.36% 100.00% July, 2009
    61.45% 21.36% 0.23% 16.96% 100.00% August, 2009
    60.65% 22.27% 1.20% 15.88% 100.00% September, 2009
    59.58% 22.69% 3.14% 14.59% 100.00% October, 2009
    58.28% 23.29% 3.34% 15.09% 100.00% November, 2009
    57.38% 23.23% 3.75% 15.64% 100.00% December, 2009
    56.96% 22.39% 3.92% 16.73% 100.00% January, 2010

    as you can see in past months ie has steadly lost market share( lost 12 %) while firefox...has been..actually pretty steady.

    Chrome is the biggest winner in past few months