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Linux Foundation Announces 2010 "We're Linux" Video Contest

prourl writes "The Linux Foundation (LF), the nonprofit organization dedicated to accelerating the growth of Linux, today announced the 2010 'We're Linux' video contest. The contest seeks to find the best user-generated videos that demonstrate what Linux means to those who use it and inspire others to try it." Sadly, the winner will almost certainly be edited in Final Cut Pro on a Mac ;)

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  1. Re:Smashing my keyboard! by Spyware23 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sounds like you had no clue what you were doing.

  2. Can we *please* stop... by Looce · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... with the damned "I'm a" bullshit? It's getting really old.

    I'm a PC! Well I'm a Mac!

    And back there you have Linux who is insecure and just has to jump onto the bandwagon.

    1. Re:Can we *please* stop... by mcgrew · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm a penguin!

      What's on the telly?

      Hhmf, looks like a penguin to me.

  3. Re:Smashing my keyboard! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You shouldn't have to know what you're doing to install an OS.

  4. Linux community? Ha! by eparker05 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Linux was a community many years ago, but the days of songs around a camp fire are over. These days when I think of Linux, I think of:

    Tivo
    Apache Web Server
    Android phones,
    WiFi routers,
    OLPC
    Portable media players
    Server Farms

    Linux has really come into it's own, but I don't think anybody will ever mistake it for a hobbyist niche again.

  5. The IT Crowd Flashback by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 3, Funny

    This contest makes me think of the "sexy nerd" calendar they did in The IT Crowd.

    Shudder...

  6. Final cut pro == sad by stokessd · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why is that sad? It's a great program that puts world class non-linear editing within reach of most everybody. What is sad, is the insanely expensive and fiddly avid workstations and non-linear editors of the past.

    Linux is just like macs in that there are huge disciplines where no applications exist. For example there is no credible 3D solid modeling programs or printed circuit board layout on the Mac. Now there is no credible non-linear video editing program for linux. Both platforms are a niche market, both excel in ways that windows does not, and both are a victim of that nitch-i-ness.

    It's only sad if people tried to make a video editor for linux and somehow were denied by forces outside their control. If the only reason is that nobody has bothered to write a good one, then that's not sad.

    Sheldon

    1. Re:Final cut pro == sad by marcansoft · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Not sure I'd consider them "world-class", but for most purposes kdenlive is pretty good for video editing under Linux, Eagle is a very popular PCB layout tool that runs on Linux, Windows, and Mac OS.

    2. Re:Final cut pro == sad by Tetsujin · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's only sad if people tried to make a video editor for linux and somehow were denied by forces outside their control. If the only reason is that nobody has bothered to write a good one, then that's not sad.

      As a Linux user I think it's sad that we don't yet have a decent video editing solution on Linux...

      I agree with what you say that Final Cut Pro itself isn't "sad" - but the fact that Linux users making a video about using Linux don't have a decent tool to edit their videos with is kind of a drag...

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  7. Re:Smashing my keyboard! by Spyware23 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yes you do. You need to know how a computer works on a rudimentary level, you also need to know how to install an OS.

    If you really think that you don't need to know what you are doing, give the first six-year old you can find a computer and a windows installation cd/dvd. Have fun!

  8. Do you have to use linux by jgtg32a · · Score: 3, Funny

    to actually make the video, or can you use Win/Mac?

    1. Re:Do you have to use linux by Korbeau · · Score: 3, Funny

      to actually make the video, or can you use Win/Mac?

      Just create a makefile listing all the video segments you want to glue together, that's very easy to do on Linux under 500 lines of code.

  9. "The winner" = Exactly by DebianDog · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I was perfectly happy with Linux until I wanted to start editing video. Most Linux video editing apps while "free" and do a basic job, they IN NO WAY compare with even iMovie that comes included with your Mac.

    1. Re:"The winner" = Exactly by DebianDog · · Score: 4, Insightful

      SO wrong it is not even funny. Never mind the 100's of cameras iMovie supports natively.. and ignoring the 70+ formats QuickTime supports there are DivX plug-in, Windows Plug-In for both import and export. Worse case you pass it though StreamClip (free) and convert it to QT. About the hardest thing to convert is muxed MPEG-2.

      Where as on of Linux best Editors, Cinelerra, still needs about $30 of plug-ins to do Windows media and MP3 audio correctly.

    2. Re:"The winner" = Exactly by biryokumaru · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So, basically, what you're saying here is iMovie doesn't natively support anything except quicktime?

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    3. Re:"The winner" = Exactly by UnknowingFool · · Score: 3, Informative
      Define "common video formats". Here is the short list of official supported iMovie formats:
      • DV
      • DV Widescreen
      • HDV 1080i (25 and 30 fps)
      • HDV 720p (25 and 30 fps)
      • MPEG 2 Standard definition
      • AVCHD
      • MPEG 4 Simple Profile
      • iSight
      • H.264

      Those formats except for iSight seem common to me. Now what you probably mean to say was iMovie doesn't support all video formats, that is true. It won't probably support Windows based video formats or obscure formats. But remember iMovie is for consumers to make and edit their home movies; it is not intended for professionals. Final Cut probably supports a larger range of formats.

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  10. Re:Smashing my keyboard! by neumayr · · Score: 5, Funny

    It would also need people in the background belittling your computer skills. This thread provides sufficient input.

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  11. Re:Smashing my keyboard! by nschubach · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I can point out a handful of people with (n) years of experience putting mirrors on a car, but that doesn't mean they are an expert car builder. Being "in IT" anymore could be someone that runs Ethernet cable to someone that processes orders for NewEgg. It could even be someone that works at Best Buy in the support section. It doesn't mean they know how a computer works and can install an operating system. (Although, every version of Linux I've installed recently has pretty much just worked so I can't see the problem here...)

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  12. No Ogg/Theora support for videos by gQuigs · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Can we at least get the Linux Foundation to support Ogg/Theora as a supported format to upload videos in. Ideally they would accept only Ogg and use HTML5 to show the videos instead of Flash..

  13. I'll take "retarded snowclone" for 500, Alex! by Gizzmonic · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm a Mac
    I'm a PC
    I'm IBM
    I'm a Windows
    Got milk?

    Can't we just trash all these? Also, the annoying commercials where lots of multi-culti people finish each other's sentences. Exactly what are you trying to say, that using your product will turn you into a hivemind? Well, isn't that neat.

    How about we get more creepy children whispering about mirrors, or babies making stock trades. Babies talking like adults is PURE ADVERTISING GENIUS.

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  14. Oblig: I'm a Mac, I'm a PC, I'm Linux by cpu_fusion · · Score: 5, Funny
  15. No mention of last year's contest? by ThoughtMonster · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The Linux Foundation also did this in 2009. Here are last year's winners.

    Also, I'm pretty sure that good results come from people who know their tools, and not from the tools themselves. A large amount of the video-editing tools on Linux leave a lot to be desired, but they're still light-years ahead of what was available, say, 20 years back. People made (and still make) good videos/movies without any kind of digital intervention, so that snide remark is probably debatable.

  16. Re:Smashing my keyboard! by AmonTheMetalhead · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If you really believe this then you've been exposed to very little hardware in your life. Try installing XP on a machine with a SATA controller it never heard of in it's life without slipstreaming the install cd

  17. Re:Deluged by Dunbal · · Score: 2, Funny

    the army of porn sites happily hosted on Linux servers open their collective floodgates spewing video offerings.

          I think the adjective you were looking for is "ejaculating".

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  18. Re:Smashing my keyboard! by AmonTheMetalhead · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Depends on your field of expertise, i'd say. Project Managers are also in IT, and i've seen some very 'limited' people in that role...

  19. Re:Smashing my keyboard! by Lifyre · · Score: 3, Informative

    Then you might want to think about a new line of work.

    I've installed Ubuntu on roughly 20 different platforms (laptop, desktop, and servers) since 6.06 and I've never had it not boot. In the past some hardware didn't work immediately but was a trivial fix (or ATI) if you could use google and even that hasn't been the case for a few releases for me.

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  20. Re:Oblig: I'm a Mac, I'm a PC, I'm Linux by svtdragon · · Score: 3, Funny
  21. Re:Smashing my keyboard! by DogDude · · Score: 3, Funny

    You're right. It's for the "Comic Book Guy"s of the world.

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  22. Re:Smashing my keyboard! by Hognoxious · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How many windows users install it? Usuially it's installed at the factory and that's that.

    I've installed it several times, likewise various linux distros. I'd say the share of installation problems is about equal.

    Oh, and 1983 called...

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  23. Re:Here's a theme by AmonTheMetalhead · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'll bite.
    I'm actually using a multi monitor setup on my Ubuntu system, don't suffer of 'driver breakage', know where to find the related documentation and have received plenty of friendly help from fellow linux users.

    Why, you ask?
    Because i'm not a douche, that's why.

  24. Re:Smashing my keyboard! by palegray.net · · Score: 2, Funny

    Being "in IT" anymore could be someone that runs Ethernet cable to someone that processes orders for NewEgg.

    I was just reminded of how many different things the term "medical professional" can mean.

  25. Re:Smashing my keyboard! by AmonTheMetalhead · · Score: 2, Interesting

    A six year-old will have problems with Win7 as soon as it's 'generic' drivers crap up over new hardware, hey, just like any other OS, well i'll be damned!

    BTW, given supported hardware, a six year old will have no problems installing Ubuntu neighter.

  26. Re:Smashing my keyboard! by AmonTheMetalhead · · Score: 2, Informative

    1) IF it recognised your NIC.
    2) IF Windows actually has drivers for your hardware
    3) IF it actually had 'generic' drivers that work with your disk controller

  27. Re:Smashing my keyboard! by Opportunist · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Not necessarily. By now most people who have more than a few years of computer experience also have a lot of experience (re)installing Windows. Simply due to necessity. And it can be very frustrating to try to install a new system, even if it is easier to install than Windows, simply because they already know all the quirks and kinks of the Windows installer. Practice makes perfect, ya know...

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  28. Get real by gyrogeerloose · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sounds like you had no clue what you were doing.

    I have computers that run Windows XP, OS X and Fedora. Each one is particularly good at one set of tasks while not so good at others so I switch around as needed. From my experience of installing different operating systems over the past fifteen years, the only one that goes without a hitch every time is OS X, mainly because there's a limited amount of hardware it's expected to support. I've run into install problems with Linux (various distros), Free BSD and Windows and it's always been related to drivers for some obscure piece of hardware. Free BSD, in particular, is very fussy about Ethernet cards.

    While I'm not a huge fan of Windows, given the huge variety of hardware out there it's probably not reasonable to expect any OS that's intended to be installed on a generic PC to install flawlessly every time.

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  29. Re:Smashing my keyboard! by DevConcepts · · Score: 2, Funny

    Do you work at Best Buy?

  30. Re:Smashing my keyboard! by node+3 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Put Windows CD in computer. Turn on. Click "next". After the install is done, Windows Update starts automatically, and grabs most of the specific drivers.

    Um, that's most definitely *not* how Windows installs. Not any version ever installed like that.

  31. Well, I Know What I'm Doing... by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 2, Funny

    I've been using Linux since '94. And it's dorky "community" stunts like this that make me want to disassociate and pretend I still used Windows.

    "Hey Kids! Let's put on a show!"

    "Oh, super! I can recite all the dialogue to "...Holy Grail!" What can everyone else do?"

  32. Re:Smashing my keyboard! by Opportunist · · Score: 2, Informative

    No problem, here's a driver disk.

    Uhh... where's the disk drive?

    Ok, here's the drivers on a USB stick.

    What do you mean, WinXP can't use it to install the drivers?

    (can you tell I already had that problem?)

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  33. Re:Smashing my keyboard! by mhall119 · · Score: 4, Informative

    My 5 year old learned to install Ubuntu just a couple weeks ago. I don't think he understands what the password is for, or why the default option of using the entire hard drive was desired over of the other options, but everything else he could figure out on his own.

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  34. Re:Smashing my keyboard! by TemporalBeing · · Score: 3, Informative

    Put Windows CD in computer. Turn on. Click "next". After the install is done, Windows Update starts automatically, and grabs most of the specific drivers.

    Assuming it has the base set of drivers to start with and that the computer is configured to boot CDs before the hard drive.

    Granted, most cheap computers are probably easily covered. but that doesn't mean their network cards are, or modems, or other things. For example, it's pretty difficult to get a WinModem working in Windows without manufacturer provided drivers. Too many built-in network cards suffer from non-standard drives too.

    And don't forget that WinXP until SP2 didn't come with SATA drivers either. So if your hard drive is now a SATA drive, but you only have a recovery disk for WinXP original, you'd be out of luck in using it.

    That's where the vendor disks come in - they provide support for how they shipped the system to you, even if the drivers were not part of the standard Windows media.

    So I'd still have to say that the average person cannot so easily re-install Windows without a vendor disk - especially when so much of the Windows-oriented hardware does depend on vendor specific drivers that Microsoft doesn't provide.

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  35. Re:Smashing my keyboard! by node+3 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Divisible by 3 and 2, both easy to "eyeball".

    This is silly. This only works for whole units. One could easily say the same thing about metric, 12cm and 1.2 meters, and so on.

    Besides, since division by 3 only works once in imperial units. Interestingly, it's actually *easier* to divide by 2 in metric. 1 meter / 2 is 0.5m or 500cm. It's simply a matter of moving a decimal point, whereas in imperial units, you have to convert between feet and inches to go from 0.5 ft to 6 inches (not that that's hard, just that it's even *easier* in metric).

    Ever tried to split something up into 5 equal parts without the aid of a scale?

    You can do that easier somehow in imperial units?

    Rationales always depend on context and not all contexts are interchangeable.

    Sort of, but there are so few contexts in modern life where imperial units are superior, that it's not worth degrading performance in all other contexts.

    Some methods are better for machines, and some are better for people.

    N.B., computers don't deal with KiB or KB. They deal exclusively in binary. KiB and KB (and MiB and MB, etc.) are what the computer tells us instead of something like, "101101010010".

    The only situation where KiB has any direct connection to what the computer is doing is in terms of addressing capabilities, as addressing naturally falls into binary-based boundaries.

  36. Re:Smashing my keyboard! by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Could someone with modpoints hand that guy a few? It's hitting the nail so hard on the head that I'd guess the poor piece of iron needs a pack of Aspirin.

    I've seen far too many claims along the lines of "I've been in IT for (n) years and so I should be able to figure this out if it was well done". Nope. You don't. I've been in IT for about 20 years by now. Still I would be hard pressed to compare two graphics cards sensibly or actually put together a state of the art machine. Why? Because I know jack about hardware. I also still owned until about a month ago a Nokia 6070. Why? Because I know shit about cellphones either. And I'm still struggling to figure out how to use my new N97 (took 2 days to figure out how to accept a call...).

    I'm fairly sure even the average shelf monkey at Best Buy knows more about hardware than me. Hell, maybe even about cells.

    And I sure as hell am no Linux wizard either. I can use it, I can write software for it, but I still use the standard KDE desktop simply because I don't want to spend the time figuring out how to configure it. And I'm fairly sure I still do a lot of things "wrong" and in a way that waste a heck of a lot of time.

    But even I managed to install Kubuntu easily. Even though I could probably not put a current CPU into a socket without doing some damage in the process.

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  37. Re:Smashing my keyboard! by HeronBlademaster · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Windows is just more forgiving with the hardware.

    Uh... what?

    I have a laptop that bluescreens with regularity under Windows. The error codes it gives me in the brief seconds before rebooting point to glitches in the hardware (sometimes the RAM, sometimes the video card, sometimes a generic error).

    The same laptop runs Linux without issues.

    I'd say Linux is more forgiving of hardware glitches - or rather, the Linux kernel doesn't panic at the first sign of a ripple in the pond, like Windows' does.

    This is anecdotal evidence, YMMV, XYZPDQ, etc.

  38. Re:Smashing my keyboard! by VGPowerlord · · Score: 3, Informative

    I have a laptop that bluescreens with regularity under Windows. The error codes it gives me in the brief seconds before rebooting point to glitches in the hardware (sometimes the RAM, sometimes the video card, sometimes a generic error).

    There's a setting to stop that auto-reboot if you want to actually read the message: Control Panel -> System -> Advanced -> Startup and Recovery Settings -> Automatically reboot checkbox.

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  39. What Linux Film Would Be Complete Without... by Rhacman · · Score: 4, Funny

    This project can not be considered complete unless it contains footage of Richard Stallman wearing a hard-drive platter as a halo, holding a conucopia and his GPL sheild. Bonus points if he is heard correcting someone on terminology during the video.

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  40. Re:Smashing my keyboard! by Progman3K · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My video would be a split-screen labelled Linux on the left side and Windows on the right side.

    The video begins with left-side user installing Linux and right-side user installing Windows.

    The time span shows Left installing Linux, messing up, starting over two or three times and text that says "time elapsed: 3 days" at the end of which the user looks a bit tired but finally satisfied.

    During this, the user on the right side pops in the Windows XP disk and installs Windows mostly by clicking OK. A text appears that says "time elapsed: 2 hours"

    Then both the left and right users sit down and start using their computers.

    Many quick-succession shots follow, indicating passage of time.

    On the left side, the Linux user sits and uses his computer as the caption indicates the passage of time: 3 months, 6 months, a year, 2 years, 3 years, 4 years, 5 years, 6 years... This goes on with no end in sight. The user is oblivious to everything as he is absorbed in actually using his computer now.

    During this time, the user on the right repeatedly complains that his computer is getting slower and slower. He reluctantly stops every three months and backs up his files, angrily wipes everything from the computer, reformats and reinstalls everything. This happens over and over, with the user becoming more and more frustrated each time as the user on the left continues using his computer with no interruptions.

    The video ends with the user on the right giving up and asking the user on the left for his Linux install disk.

    The caption reads "This is based on a true story" and then "Linux: What do YOU want to do today?"

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  41. IBM Commercial by Temujin_12 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Can we please have more IMB-like ethereal commercials showcasing how Linux is growing and is ultimately unstoppable because it represents the collective knowledge of the world?

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  42. These guys really want to be an example? by Seth+Kriticos · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm using Linux. And I'm boycotting flash. So I'm here on an Ubuntu Linux (my home computer) and can't watch the videos on http://video.linuxfoundation.org/category/we-are-linux-foundation-video-contest the linuxfoundation is talking about. WTF? You people should try to make some accessibility example for OSS folks if you want to be taken seriously. What is this carp??

    On the other hand, reading about the content of the videos, maybe it's better this way..

  43. Re:Smashing my keyboard! by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 2, Funny

    Worst comeback ever!

  44. Re:Smashing my keyboard! by Shatrat · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yeah, well the jerk store called and they're running out of YOU!
    The windows installer has given me 100 times more headache due to the activation process alone, ignoring the less powerful disk formatting and partitioning tools, having to load drivers from other media, et cetera.

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  45. Re:Smashing my keyboard! by Demonoid-Penguin · · Score: 2, Funny
    Put breadcrumbs on the Enter key and any chicken can install most versions of Windows, OSX, and Linux. Also most humans. Some however think smacking the keyboard makes things work better - they also repeatedly hit lift and traffic light buttons (they're called morons).

    No offense meant to morons - we all know we can't offend anyone. And "good Samaritan" is an insult (do-gooder). Hey everyone stay back for two years in schools so the lazy ones don't feel left behind - oh wait - that's not fair for pinheads - better pass them anyway.

    Duh - no wonder the mentally challenged tend to champion the "evolution is a lie" campaign.

  46. Re:Smashing my keyboard! by TheBilgeRat · · Score: 2, Insightful

    lspci. use it. love it. And don't buy POS unsupported hardware. It may come as a surprise, but the hardware that is troublefree in linux is troublefree in Windows too.

  47. Re:Smashing my keyboard! by tburkhol · · Score: 2, Informative

    I've installed Ubuntu on roughly 20 different platforms (laptop, desktop, and servers) since 6.06 and I've never had it not boot.

    I've had several installations of Ubuntu fail to boot on a few systems over the last 3 years. Eventually, I figured out it was the fault of my CD burner (8 years old) failing to write good disks. They'd be good enough to mount, good enough to pass Ubuntu's self-checker, but about half the time the installed OS would have some failure. I would not be surprised if bad disks contributed to many of the linux install headaches.

  48. Re:Smashing my keyboard! by LtGordon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    People appearantly want their OS like their politicians: Making decisions for them.

    Exactly, because the average end user wants a computer that just works, and they don't care about the specifics of how it does.

    Imagine you take your car to the dealer for service and the technician asks you: What would you like to set the spark plug gap to? What would you like the ignition timing to be? Would you like the tires to be rotated in a cross or mirror pattern? You would give him a funny look and say "I don't know, I just want it to drive like it's supposed to."

  49. Re:Smashing my keyboard! by Nerdfest · · Score: 5, Funny

    Come on man, even a 5 year old should install /home on a separate partition. Frikkin' n00bs.