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Overzealous Enforcement Means Even Legit Music Blogs Deleted

AnotherUsername writes "Recently, many [Google-hosted] music blogs were deleted for hosting mp3s of songs by various artists. The problem? The music blogs in question had been given permission to host the songs, and often, the older links to mp3s were often broken intentionally by the bloggers in order to save bandwidth. From the article: 'You're reading this right: Five years of Lipold's labor of love was deleted, in part, because he posted a track with full permission of a label, and the track apparently wasn't even online by the time the IFPI filed its complaint.'"

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  1. Artificial Scarcity of Distribution models by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What? You thought this had anything to do with their "intellectual property"?

    This has everything to do with crushing alternative distribution methods.

  2. This will keep happening... by SharpFang · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...as long as there are no repercussions for frivolous DMCA.

    The only provision limiting the scope in DMCA is to own copyright on whatever you claim someone infringes upon.

    So, I have copyright on MyDumbSong. And I am totally free to file DMCA against _anyone_ and everyone_ and _anything_ and _everything_, claiming it infringes on my rights to MyDumbSong. And then it's their burden to prove they don't. And taking content down is so much easier than proving its legality.

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    1. Re:This will keep happening... by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That's what you get for delivering your message with other peoples computers instead of on your own. Would it have killed em to run their own server?

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    2. Re:This will keep happening... by Darkness404 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      For a lot of bloggers, yes. Especially the average blogger who might know some HTML, some CSS and perhaps a bit of JavaScript but knows very, very little about servers, PHP, and networking.

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    3. Re:This will keep happening... by tomhudson · · Score: 3, Informative

      If you're going to invest years into something, there's no reason why you can't also invest a few dollars a month into a hosting plan.

      There are plenty of plans out there that let you do a one-click install of whatever sort of content management or blogging software you could reasonably need, and you get to customize it. And one-click backups and restores, for both the database backend and the site itself.

      Plus you get your own domain name.

      And you don't have to worry about "someone else already has that email / user name" crap.

    4. Re:This will keep happening... by Yvan256 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Only if the weapon is a xylophone.

    5. Re:This will keep happening... by twidarkling · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If you run on someone else's hosting, they'll just send the DMCA to your host, who will then take down your content. They only way you'd be safe from being DMCA'd is if you had your own server sitting in your closet. And that's what GP was talking about with their post.

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    6. Re:This will keep happening... by gnasher719 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually, contrary to your claim there will be very serious repercussions if the blogger takes this case to court.

      When you file a DMCA complaint, you declare that you are the copyright holder or an agent of the copyright holder, and that there has been a good reason to suspect copyright infringement. If that is not the case, then the DMCA complaint is actually a criminal act. And since the blogger claims that he had the permission of the copyright holder, it seems that a criminal act happened (assuming the blogger is telling the truth). And I think damages would be awarded against the complainant anyway if the complaint was not justified (that is if the complainant had good reason to believe there was copyright infringement, but turned out to be wrong).

    7. Re:This will keep happening... by Endo13 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Which is all well and good if you have the money or influence to get a good lawyer on your case for you. Some of these bloggers may actually have the influence, if not the money. But how many of them don't? And how many other wrongful DMCA notices and take-downs occur each year that go unpunished?

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    8. Re:This will keep happening... by VShael · · Score: 2, Informative

      If the legal system operated as intended, this would be true.

      However, ample evidence has shown that the legal system is well and truly broken, and that if you have sufficient money/power/political weight behind you, there will be no penalty regardless of the crime.

    9. Re:This will keep happening... by sjames · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Considering that you can still get taken down by a DMCA notice unless you get your own Internet, I don't see your point.

    10. Re:This will keep happening... by sjames · · Score: 3, Informative

      If that is not the case, then the DMCA complaint is actually a criminal act.

      Which has never in the history of the DMCA seen a single enforcement in criminal or civil court.

    11. Re:This will keep happening... by Endo13 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      and the air of someone who might actually pay for the reasonably difficult to perform professional services you receive

      Which is all well and good if you have the money or influence to get a good lawyer on your case for you.

      I've heard reading comprehension helps. Just sayin'.

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    12. Re:This will keep happening... by Cyberllama · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Just FYI, the rights holder's did file the claims in this instance -- they also gave permission for the song to be hosted. In short, they have NFI what they're doing. One branch of the company says "Sure, use this for promotional purposes" and the other is doing random Google searches for their IP and sees the mp3 up and fires off the complaint without another thought. In other words, the complaint was filed in good, albeit very stupid, faith by the proper rights holder.

      Google could have handled the situation a bit better, perhaps, but they're really stuck in the middle. They must comply with the takedown notice UNLESS a counter-claim is filed or they become liable. What Google *could* do is make it easier for people to file counter-claims when they receive takedown notices -- which effectively ends the issue unless the original claimant decides to take it to court.

      But there's still only so much they can do. At the end of the day, most people who receive a takedown notice for something they have the rights to post are going to just say "Pfft, whatever. I have permission." and ignore it and then cry foul later when their stuff is removed. They simply don't realize that the way the DMCA works is that it has put a burden of declaring their innocence upon them or they are presumed guilty.

  3. New tagline/category needed by St.Creed · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... as apparently, "your rights online" do not really exist. What about "No rights online"? "Duties online"?

    Well, I'm pretty sure we can come up with something that describes the situation a bit better.

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    1. Re:New tagline/category needed by Hadlock · · Score: 3, Interesting

      If you're going to host a blog for five years, why not upgrade to hosting it yourself? Even technically challenged simpletons can install wordpress on most large webhosts these days (mine was installed with the single press of a fat, green "install wordpress now" button). Surely you can handle that if you're capable of getting permission to host, and then upload and link to the MP3. Blog hosting through a 3rd party once you're old enough to afford it, particularly if you've been writing in it for years (with no backup??? wtf?) is just asking for trouble.

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    2. Re:New tagline/category needed by rockNme2349 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You sir, do not understand Web x.0

      His blog was hosted in the Cloud! A super place where data is impervious to destruction and can never be lost!

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    3. Re:New tagline/category needed by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If you're going to host a blog for five years, why not upgrade to hosting it yourself?

      Why host it yourself if using existing services works so well? Sure, the guy might change stance now, but until this point I doubt that he thought anyone would be so reckless and careless in how they approached copyright enforcement, especially when the guy had permission. The more extremist copyright holders try to stamp down, the more people will realise there is a force out there out of control. Sure there are plenty of people flaunting copyright, but every case has to be looked at on a individual basis otherwise its no better shutting down a whole city just because a few people were breaking the law.

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    4. Re:New tagline/category needed by Yvan256 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't like hosting stuff in the Cloud. When it's too hot in the summer the data just evaporates.

    5. Re:New tagline/category needed by Hadlock · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why host it yourself if using existing services works so well?

      Because hosting it yourself gives you infinitely better control of your content.I don't just mean against legal threats, I mean in presenting your information to the public/your readers. Blogger is pretty rudimentary compared to what you can do with something as basic as WordPress, and you can just go crazy with other free things like Drupal. The term control also conveniently includes backup and legal protection from the DCMA. If blogging about music is your hobby, which if he was doing it for five years, it probably was, then it's worth it to yourself to bite the bullet and buy the hosting/domain for 5-10 years. If you buy in bulk most registrars and hosting solutions will give you crazy good deals. I bought my domain on sale for $1/year and bought the maximum I could buy at the time (15 years) and bought 7 years worth of hosting for less than $200. That boils down to about $2.50 a month. Most people spend more on coffee in a morning. When you look at the cost of blogging as a hobby, it's almost free, even if you pay for it. If you've got enough viewers/bandwidth issues you can double or triple your bandwidth for only a dollar more a month usually.
       
      I'd been "blogging" since I was 16, but couldn't afford the domain name/hosting until college. I'm sure when my domain/hosting expires in five years I'll buy another 20 years worth of hosting. Not investing in a website for a blogger is like an author not investing in a typewriter/computer.

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    6. Re:New tagline/category needed by couchslug · · Score: 2, Funny

      "His blog was hosted in the Cloud! A super place where data is impervious to destruction and can never be lost!"

      Excellent post!

      Guess what, kiddies? You don't OWN the Cloud so you don't get to say shit about how it runs. What you host on the Cloud isn't a matter of your imaginary "rights" outside the TOS you ignore when you put your content on teh shiny intarweb.

      Suck on that when you consider surrendering your data to people who Don't Need You.

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    7. Re:New tagline/category needed by tepples · · Score: 2, Informative

      If you're going to host a blog for five years, why not upgrade to hosting it yourself?

      Because most people can't afford to upgrade from a residential ISP plan, which usually bans web servers visible to the public, to a business ISP plan.

    8. Re:New tagline/category needed by PrimaryConsult · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Your hosting provider is more likely to send it off to you before deleting your stuff, though. If you're paying for the service, they can't just go and delete things without opening themselves up to potential lawsuits from their clients.

    9. Re:New tagline/category needed by Aranykai · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Sadly thats not true either. I've had an entire account suspended and all my data deleted because there was a file on the server named mission_impossible.txt

      It was a document containing plans for summer trip to alaska...

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    10. Re:New tagline/category needed by Evil+Shabazz · · Score: 3, Funny

      But.. but.. Corporations act in my best interest!

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  4. This is exactly the spirit of the law by damburger · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The laws in question are basically a way of saying 'the music industry controls music. There shall be no music without our say so' whilst appearing to be a justified set of rules to make the industry fair. Even if this were the first example (it really, really is not) then nobody ought to be at all surprised. Few service or hosting providers have the balls to actually look into the matter when a legal-sounding letter arrives; they just err on the side of not being taken to court and comply immediately, which is exactly the kind of environment the content industry has sought to create.

    Rather than there being a presumption of innocence for those publishing on the web, and the rights holder having to prove guilt - there is a a presumption of guilt and the publisher has to prove innocence, normally with far fewer legal funds available than the rights holder. There is also no consequence to the service/hosting provider for taking content down.

    In a society so thoroughly and openly corrupt, how can this be a surprise? If the entire government and legal system is open to the highest bidder (true in every western nation I can think of) then naturally the intent of all laws will be to keep entrenched elites in place.

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    1. Re:This is exactly the spirit of the law by Faylone · · Score: 2, Insightful

      They went above and beyond following both the letter and the spirit of the law. They had the label's permission to use it and songs has been taken down before the complaint was even filed. The labels attacked part of their own distribution method for something that would have been invalid even if they had not had permission!

    2. Re:This is exactly the spirit of the law by vesuvana · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I completely agree. A major problem is that our system rewards the most egregious control freaks with more and more power.

      We seem to operate out of a misplaced Puritan holdback of 'any freedom is evil' and 'humans are inherently evil and must be controlled lest they be themselves', which could only equal evil in this mindset. It's completely ass backwards and results in a total thwarting of creativity.

      Without an atmosphere of assumed trustworthiness, how can our society thrive and move forward at all? The music industry (and the film industry) are symptomatic of a much bigger problem. I believe it needs to be fought against aggressively and nipped in the bud before government usurps any more control by crushing individual freedom and creativity. But I don't have any good ideas of how to stop this nauseating trend.

    3. Re:This is exactly the spirit of the law by Thoreauly+Nuts · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It's completely ass backwards and results in a total thwarting of creativity.

      I compiled some research recently to assess creative work ethic amongst musical artists from the 60s to the present. It had nothing to do with copyright originally, but the data can easily be arranged to show some interesting things about what effect increasing copyright lengths may or may not have on creativity.

      Using album lengths of studio albums for these artists I came up with a figure I called CPY, which just stands for content per year, which is measured in minutes. For this post, I took my data and divided the artists between 2 groups: Pre 1978 & Post 1978. Jan 1, 1978 is when the 1976 Copyright Act took effect BTW.

      The Pre 1978 group had an average CPY of 42.55 minutes
      The Post 1978 group had an average CPY of 30.6 minutes

      This is about a 28.1% reduction in creative output after the copyright act took effect. Now, correlation does not imply causation, so it can't necessarily be said that this dramatic drop was caused by the copyright act. However, it can certainly be said that the copyright act definitely is NOT causing an increase in creative output. There is no evidence of such in the data whatsoever. In fact, creative output has held close to the margin of error from the 80s onward in my data.

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    4. Re:This is exactly the spirit of the law by dhasenan · · Score: 2, Interesting

      No, this is a way of saying the IFPI controls music distribution, and not the artists or recording labels that own the music. The rights holders aren't involved or consulted.

  5. what's this whole do no evil thing? by Ralph+Spoilsport · · Score: 2
    I thought that was some kind of guiding principle. Silly me. And when it comes to downloading, it seems that a friend's hard drive with hundreds of gigs of music in a taste you trust that can be copied in minutes is vastly more efficient than downloading anyway. So, it seems no matter what the IFPI, RIAA, etc. are still completely fucked. And Google, big, bloated, hard to steer Google, tramples on nimble little good guys as it "does no evil".

    Sigh. such a dialectic of profit, desire, and misdirection.

    RS

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    1. Re:what's this whole do no evil thing? by Gabrosin · · Score: 3, Insightful

      From TFA:

      the Digital Millennium Copyright Act forces Google to take these actions — otherwise, it would lose the protection of the DMCA’s “safe harbor” clause and could be found liable for any copyright infringement on its blogging networks.

      and

      after an unquantified number of complaints — valid or otherwise — the law forces Google (or any other blogging platform) to terminate the accounts of “repeat offenders,” even if their only mistake was not to file paperwork against the accusations of an anonymous robot — sad and wrong, but mandated by current law.

      So... why do you fault Google for this, rather than the IFPI/RIAA? Do you think that "don't be evil" translates to "knowingly violate the (admittedly crappy) law"? I can't imagine how Google opening itself to a RIAA lawsuit would be beneficial to anyone involved in this whole mess.

    2. Re:what's this whole do no evil thing? by icebraining · · Score: 3, Informative

      That's not how DMCA works. They have to take it down right away:

      Common Misunderstandings

      It is sometimes stated that the ISP needs to give the alleged infringer ten days notice before acting. This is incorrect: the ISP must act expeditiously. The ten day period refers to the counter notification procedure described in Section 512(g) after the infringing material has been removed, offering them an opportunity to counter the allegations presented to the ISP not during the stage of the so-called "take down" procedure.

      So Google is not at fault here.

    3. Re:what's this whole do no evil thing? by Gabrosin · · Score: 2, Informative

      Once again, from TFA:

      In a statement issued to Wired.com, Google maintains that it warned the affected music bloggers after each of the complaints that led to deletion

      Google says every notice e-mailed to bloggers included the URLs of the posts in question, and the notices we’ve seen do include the URLs

      “Each e-mail includes information about the risks regarding repeat offenses and a link to our DMCA policy page with instructions on how to file a counter-claim,” Google spokeswoman Sara Jew-Lim told Wired.com. “The e-mail will also specifically identify the post or posts in question and will include a link to ChilingEffects.org so the blogger can view the actual complaint we received.”

      So, Google sent out notices to the offending blogs; they include a URL to the offending material; they include their DMCA policy; and they TELL THE BLOGGER WHAT TO DO NEXT. What more do you fucking want from them?

      This is like being issued a warning that you're parked in an illegal spot and if you keep doing it, your car will be towed. You get one warning and ignore it; you get another warning and ignore it; you get another warning and ignore it; then suddenly your car is towed and you start bitching and moaning. You were told what would happen!

      I sympathize with the bloggers who lost their sites, but I echo the comments made by others: it's YOUR responsibility to back up anything that's precious to you. The bloggers that keep their own archive of their sites are protected from losing all their hard work due to legal problems, server troubles, or any other lost data disaster.

      Anyone who is using this incident to further their own hatred of Google is doing everyone a disservice; aim that hatred at the corrupt music industry where it belongs. If you're going to raise hell over this, raise hell to the lawmakers who can do something about the state of copyright law in the US. I agree with the prevailing sentiment in these comments: until there are penalties instituted for issuing a false DMCA takedown notice, NOTHING will improve.

    4. Re:what's this whole do no evil thing? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2

      That's not how it works (from memory, so this may contain errors...).

      If they fail to comply with the takedown notice, then they lose their safe harbour protection and become liable for any and all infringing content that they host. The person whose content they removed my file a counter notice, and then they can reinstate it. If the person issuing the takedown notice believes that it was valid then they can pursue the claim in court. If the court issues an injunction then, once again, Google must take the content down.

      This is where it gets interesting, however. Both the takedown notice and the counter notice are issued under penalty of perjury. If you knowingly provide incorrect information on either then you are guilty of perjury. If you just made stuff up and didn't check whether it was true, you may also be guilt of barratry, fraud, or possibly both. I wouldn't like to be the IFPI at this point. I would love to be their lawyers though; they just charged their client for something that is going to generate them a lot more revenue in legal fees.

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  6. Another lesson from this by JoshuaZ · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Keep backups of everything. If it isn't on your server you don't know when you'll lose it. If you keep backups you can just move elsewhere if there's a problem.

  7. Anonymous Robot? by russotto · · Score: 4, Informative

    accused blogger must file a counter-claim or, after an unquantified number of complaints -- valid or otherwise -- the law forces Google (or any other blogging platform) to terminate the accounts of "repeat offenders," even if their only mistake was not to file paperwork against the accusations of an anonymous robot -- sad and wrong, but mandated by current law.

    Unless the law has changed recently, all DMCA notices must contain the signature of the complaining party. So it can't be an _anonymous_ robot. If Google has agreed to an expidited, unsigned, automated, takedown process, it's not the law's fault.

    If they are signing them, the fact that the law doesn't make false DMCA notices explicitly illegal is the problem.

    1. Re:Anonymous Robot? by russotto · · Score: 3, Interesting

      No. The only thing you are required to attest to under the penalty of perjury in a DMCA notice is that you own or represent the owner of the copyright of the work you are claiming was infringed. All the rest can be lies (including the part where you say it's true to the best of your knowledge). If you own just one copyright, you can, without committing perjury, send a DMCA notice to anyone's ISP demanding they take something down as an infringement of your copyright. Even if you know damn well it's false.

    2. Re:Anonymous Robot? by Mathinker · · Score: 2, Informative

      IANAL, but if I understand US law correctly you can drag anyone's ass to court if they file a bogus take down notice.

      You obviously aren't a lawyer, because if you were one, you'd know just how God-awful expensive it is to "drag someone's ass to (Federal) court".

      Big Content knows that the probability that someone would think it worthwhile to countersue is minuscule. Probably even quite a bit less than the probability of being threatened to be sued for filesharing.

  8. Achilles Heel. by headkase · · Score: 5, Interesting

    By the way, I refuse to cooperate in the slightest until I get at least one thing: a functioning public domain. Not this pretend one where perhaps after I'm long dead, maybe, just maybe - assuming no more extensions: my grandchildren will get to copy Steamboat Willy. There is no public domain if it doesn't happen in my lifetime: fact. Without my public domain I unilaterally declare the whole of copyright null and void, "they" broke it first so no agreement until "they" come back and deal in good faith. Because apparently politicians do not believe that Citizens need to be consulted for their positions to bargain with at the copyright table. Guess they're just too damn busy stuffing the money into their pockets as fast as possible under the table. It's a Sonny situation. Heh.

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    1. Re:Achilles Heel. by Draek · · Score: 2, Informative

      So, now I have to find some independents to support. Know any good sites that of course will have samples of the music to help guide me?

      Two websites that I know of: Magnatune, as its been mentioned on Slashdot a few times, is a "do no evil" music label that actually does that. Their classical collection in particular is excellent, and added to the fact that they've got FLAC downloads alongside the usual lossy formats it's a must-have for any classical fan, though they've got some interesting stuff in their other genres as well. You can listen to the whole album for free (as a stream) before purchasing, and they've even got an all-you-can-eat model with monthly payments as well.

      And the other is Jamendo, which contrary to Magnatune has a fairly small classical collection but the amount (and diversity) of indie rock is simply staggering, and they've got a decent catalogue of other genres as well. Free downloads in both MP3 and OGG formats with handy donation buttons and user reviews.

      Outside of that, though, all I know is good ol' MySpace where pretty much *every* independant artist/band/whatever has a webpage, though that makes it kinda hard to pick the wheat from the chaff but YMMV.

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    2. Re:Achilles Heel. by vivaelamor · · Score: 2, Informative

      Know any good sites that of course will have samples of the music to help guide me?

      Jamendo, Magnatune, Bandcamp, Amie Street, TheSixtyOne and Zunior; to name a few.

  9. conflate the legal with the "illegal" by cats-paw · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The music industries goal here is to reinforce the belief that ALL music sharing is illegal and ALL music must be paid for. It doesn't matter what the reality is, they are trying to force a mindset on people. Things like the creative commons are just as much a threat as downloading.

    Everything must have an owner, that owner must be a big corp and you must pay. ALWAYS.

    It's a propaganda war. Unfortunately one of the reasons it works is that when they actually do things which break the law to try and further this propaganda, the law won't come after them.

    They can just point at absolutely anything and say "that's illegal" and immediately there is a presumption of guilt. Then you must prove you innocence.

    I for one, do not welcome my corporate overlords.

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  10. Re:Class Action Defamation? by russotto · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I am definitely no lawyer, but couldn't a class action defamation or fraud suit be brought back against the IFPI for the incorrect reports?

    Also no lawyer, but maybe tortious interference with a contract. Thing is, it gets to court, the judge sees the IFPI as Authority and the defendants as a bunch of music-stealing whiners, throws out the complaints, and charges the defendants with the IFPIs legal fees. At least, that's what happened when people objected to DirecTV suing people who had bought certain legal pieces of hardware which could be used for decoding DirecTV among other purposes.

  11. Re:Fake it until you make it? by RichardJenkins · · Score: 4, Funny

    Step 1. Rebuild the Berlin wall.

  12. Welcome to the Corporate States of America by Newer+Guy · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Welcome to the Corporate States of America-where coroprations have all the RIGHTS of citizens-and more-with none of their RESPONSIBILITIES!

    Want proof? Here it is! http://www.tampabay.com/news/business/realestate/article1072632.ece

    If a human being had done this, we'd be charged with the felony crime of breaking and entering-BUT after all Bank of America isn't a human, are they? Personally, I think that when stuff like this is done they should arrest the President of the corporation, process him and then throw him in a cell with the derelicts (make sure you do it on a long holiday weekend so he suffers for a few days).

    You might think that this is off topic, but it really isn't. Corporations have WAY TOO MUCH POWER-mainly because they have been able to BRIBE our corrupt government into letting them have it!

  13. Don't the take down notices have a perjury clause? by Fujisawa+Sensei · · Score: 2, Insightful

    All the DCMA takedown notices that I've seen, not received just seen, like the Open Office notice that was sent out a few years ago, contain an "Under Penalty of Perjury" clause. A few disbarment, and some jail terms for perjury might put a damper on that BS.

    The only thing that would top going after the peons and lawyers sending out the notices would be RICO charges against the xAA; and member corporations for the crap that they're pulling.

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  14. stop endorsing these companies by blueworm · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Don't post anything related to a major music company to a blog -- it's that simple. If you don't agree with the takedown notices and the lawsuits, do some research and stop endorsing companies who do that type of thing. Stop sharing it and listening to it, because without sharing nothing can survive in the Internet age. The problem is people like music, but they've been so psychologically damaged into thinking that music making isn't a perfectly able to be learned iteratively that they feel they MUST consume music produced by these companies, and that simply isn't true. We need new musicians to make music and find ways to make money off of it through inclusion in other products such that they don't feel the need to be marketed by malicious record companies.

  15. One hand not knowing what the other is doing. by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Since it appears it is a case of labels saying it is ok and a lawyer or someone just blindly getting everything taken down then I think it is about time we do something to protect the blogger's work.

    If music labels can get infinity billion dollars for copyright violation then surely the blogger should get similar compensation for having his website destroyed by careless lawyers. Everything is about having the right checks and balances and right now things are biased towards the companies. I definitely think it would be within reason for a blogger to expect a few hundred thousand lawyer or responsible party for having his site (and possibly only means of income) wiped out in an instant due to incompetence.

  16. Re:Freedom by couchslug · · Score: 4, Insightful

    People have the insanely naive, stupid idea that when they have someone else host their content that they will still have control over that content.

    You voluntarily surrender everything when you have someone else host your shit

    The good side is that when they nuke it your poor planning becomes an example to others.

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  17. Send a DMCA counterclaim by wshs · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Google doesn't delete stuff as a result of a DMCA notice. They block access to it. Send a DMCA counterclaim, and Google will put your blog back up in a week or less.

  18. Non US based hosting by future+assassin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Well there's a market right there. Set up your site with a company that has no connections to the USA

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  19. That way, the cloud is just like nature. by formfeed · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't like hosting stuff in the Cloud. When it's too hot in the summer the data just evaporates.

    .. yes, but as soon as it cools down, your 1s and 0s will crystallize again, forming new data for someone else to enjoy. Or as one of these greek guys once said: Panta rei.- You can't log into the same sever twice.

    And it's not as as if it is truly lost, it just gets arranged differently. Who knows- that part on the server that hosted the only copy of your thesis might now host someone else's lol-cat collection.

  20. Wrong. by John+Hasler · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...the law forces Google (or any other blogging platform) to terminate the accounts of "repeat offenders," even if their only mistake was not to file paperwork against the accusations of an anonymous robot -- sad and wrong, but mandated by current law.

    This is false. The DMCA does not require Google to do anything. It merely grants them immunity from a claim of copyright infringement if they comply with it in response to a legitimate, correctly formed and delivered takedown notice. If they ignore the notice they are in exactly the same position they would be in had the DMCA never been enacted. Furthermore, there are penalties for sending false DMCA takedown notices as well as a counter-notice procedure that permits the material to be put back up (with the service provider retaining immunity) and gives the copyright owner thirty days to file suit.

    Absent the DMCA none of these blogs would exist as Google would be strictly liable for infringements.

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  21. Tiger Woods tried that... by syousef · · Score: 3, Funny

    Make fucking backups. Test fucking backups regularly.

    Tiger Woods tried that...and lost half his fortune

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  22. There is no legit enforcement... by Stormwatch · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There can be no legit copyright enforcement, because the very concept of copyright is immoral and nonsensical in the first place, and ought to be abolished.

  23. I want to see reverse RIAA on this by mjensen · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Have an artist file suit against whoever filed the DCMA paperwork.
    The artist should be entitled to the "lost sales" of the artists work on the same level of damages the RIAA claim.