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64-Bit Flash Player For Linux Finally In Alpha
Luchio writes "Finally, a little bit of respect from Adobe with this alpha release of the Adobe Flash Player 10 that was made available for all Linux 64-bit enthusiasts! As noted, 'this is a prerelease version,' so handle with care. Just remove any existing Flash player and extract the new .so file in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins (or /usr/lib/opera/plugins)."
The 64 bit flash player has been in alpha for over a year....
Que the Anti Adobe Activists in 3... 2...
Wait hang on... This flash ad is causing my browser to lag...
Hasn't this been out for a while already?
That story is more than a year old!
I do believe I've been using this already for a year. (I'm bad with time). But I know I've been using it for some time now.
The previous release wasn't considered an alpha?
What comes before alpha? My greek alphabet must be really rusty.
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What about a Windows x64 build?
FREE as in FREEdom. Also as in free from ads. Suck it, adobe!!!
Man, Flash Player locks up the CPU and crashes more often with gold releases than most alpha software. I think you'd have to be sadist to run software in alpha for Linux from Adobe.
Seriously, I hope it leads to an improvement for the Flash Player for the platform- it's sorely needed.
On another note, I was surprised to hear that H.264 GPU video acceleration in Flash Player 10.1, in addition to being limited to very new cards, only works on Windows, the platform with the most stable Flash Player (stable is relative).
I'll get it when they fix the bug where flash pages play annoying loud audio, the bug where web pages that are supposed to be static play annoying moving advertisements, the bug where flash pages can't be represented by real URL's because it all loads in a single flash file, and the bug where flash breaks the www.
I just knew the strange spacetime distortion field I drove through on the way to work was going to cause issues!
I've apparently gone a few years back in time, wait.. wha.. nooooo, I have to relive going through the recession again!
Oh wait...
Mod me down, my New Earth Global Warmingist friends!
From http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/faq.html
Will application performance improve with the 64-bit Flash Player?
A 64-bit Flash Player will not necessarily result in improved application performance. The major benefit is for Flash Player to be fully compatible with 64-bit Linux distributions so that it is both easier to install and works as expected without requiring emulation.
This is another revision over previous 64-bit Flash revisions. I've been using it for months, mostly without trouble.
Around mid-January though, Hulu broke with all Linux clients running 64-bit Flash. You get "Sorry, we are unable to stream this video", and the support forum is full of people reporting it. As far as I know Hulu has provided no response, and there are rumors that something related to video DRM that Hulu enabled (must be recently) is not supported in the 64-bit Flash player yet. Workarounds including using the Hulu desktop (which some report as buggy), watching at least some of the videos via Fancast (which I didn't even know existed), or using the 32-bit plugin. I just tried this 10.0.45 release and it has the same problem.
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Soon after YouTube goes HTML5 we will witness the death of Flash. They had a good run and played a large part in making the Internet what is today but it is time to move on.
The announcement is new, but the player isn't. Must be a very slow company, if it takes one year from the alpha release to the announcement.
By the way, the 64-bit alpha was always just as stable (or just as unstable) for me as the 32-bit version. I wonder if they have really made any changes since then.
Microsoft has just announced the release of Windows Vista, predicting that it will surely be the best selling operating system the Redmond, WA based company has ever released.
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
we will have better luck waiting for mass adoption of html5 than waiting for a REAL release of the adobe flash plugin. Maybe html5 is whats causing them to wake up
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Wow, we're now taking articles from 2008 and putting them on the front page of Slashdot. We're already discovered there is nothing to see here. So please allow me an OT question here, but are there any really good Linux bloggers out there?
Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols is just one of the many writers I really don't like and so I started thinking. Are there any Linux bloggers out there I do like? I'm at a loss.
Matt Asay is also incredibly popular, but his blog is supposedly dedicated to open source. Yet he spends about 30-40% of his time praising Apple and IBM for closed-source proprietary products, and another 30-40% bashing Microsoft for anything and everything. Then he spends a very small amount of time trying to advocate or report on actual FOSS products. A good chunk of that time is promoting his company, Alfresco.
I'd love to find a good Linux/FOSS blog worth reading.
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"64 bit support! Now with 2x the number of vulnerabilities of any 32bit software, and available on Linux because fuxxoring the Windows platform isn't enough! WE WANT IT ALL!"
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Finally,
Though wouldn't a PPC Linux binary be more useful?
This is why you shouldn't trust proprietary software. Once they have the market they don't care about the small operating systems, and there's nothing you can do about it (other than writing a free alternative). The problem is that once gnash can play flash10 files Adobe will release a new standard.
This is really, really old news.
This 64-bit version has always had hardware acceleration disabled. The 32-bit version does acceleration through OpenGL. I can watch full screen HD youtube videos smoothly with the 32-bit plugin, but the 64-bit plugin isn't even usable for that. I've stayed away from it just for that reason... I'd rather just run 32-bit and have things actually playable.
I wish I could mod you funny.
Now all we need is Adobe Reader 64-bit please?
So that finally Kongregate will support it. :/
Any sufficiently advanced intelligence is indistinguishable from stupidity.
We need a native BSD port too, even though fedora makes a nice emulator :)
Just remove any existing Flash player and extract the new .so file in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins (or /usr/lib/opera/plugins).
It works just as well (for single-user systems) in ~/.mozilla/plugins.
Seriously. 64-Bit Linux has been around for a long time. Why is it so hard for Adobe to create a 64-bit version of Flash for Linux?
Goodbye Slashdot. You've changed.
I went fishing explicitly for this comment. It's awesome how nonspecific the summary is.
This is another reason Linux is not that user friendly. It's a chicken and an egg problem. I'm have average computer skills and using Linux is a lot less user friendly because of issues such as the issues with Flash. It appears to be getting better and I hope to use Linux on my laptop eventually, but it is still a pain in the ass to use Linux. Also, I have a Verizon broadband card that doesn't have Linux software for it.
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because it's easy to block it and get rid of 80% of obnoxious ads. With HTML5 coming up, i'm dreading having no choice but christmas-tree websites all over.
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I don't know exactly when the alpha was released, but seems like I tried it about 6 months ago, then went back to the 32-bit version because the 64-bit version is not well optimized and doesn't seem to use hardware acceleration for video playback. It works, but it's painfully slow. Still, it's an alpha, and as far as alpha's go, I suppose that's a pretty good alpha.
The problem is, I don't think Adobe is actually working on it anymore. Seems like they released and alpha, then forgot about it. If the headline were that the plugin had finally reached a BETA release, then that would be 'news'.
yeah, its not perfect and doesn't work for every flash file. But, it does work for the flash I do want to see. Plus, stopping the annoying flash file is pretty simple. Its just a right click away.
Well.. maybe. Or Maybe not. But Definitely not sort of.
From here: http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/HTML5-controversy-centres-on-Adobe-Update-931069.html
Update - Ian Hickson has withdrawn his claims. In a posting to the W3C mailing list he said "I was under the impression (based on [1] and some posts to secret mailing lists) that Larry had filed a formal objection on the 2D Context part of what people outside this working group call HTML5. However, I see Larry has now posted publicly that this is not the case".
My guess, this troublemaking was real, but they are backpedalling now.
Adobe is playing the last cards in their slimy little hand to sabotage HTML5.
Standards bodies either survive attempts by wealthy corporate troublemakers to stop the open standards process, or they become irrelevant.
I can't wait to see Flash finally end. It's been a buggy, annoying tool to work with since it came on the scene. Even so, their reign should have been as endless as Windows - all it would have taken was the slightest bit of good stewardship. Too bad they couldn't even be bothered to keep up with 5-10 year old changes in hardware and operating systems.
It's fitting that Macromedia/Adobe's laziness and arrogance will destroy their grip on the web.
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Can somebody explain me why on my Fedora 11 x64, the same libflashplayer.so works fine on Opera 10 and not on Firefox 3.5.6 ? And Gnash ... well it's a good initiative, but too young to be really usable (well at least with my computer)
I've had adobe's 64bit linux plugin forever, both in FF and Chrome. The only thing new may be the subversion (instead of 10.1.2.3 or whatever I've been on, now they are on 10.1.2.3b?)
from 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
to 45 2F 6E 40 3C DF 10 71 4E 41 DF AA 25 7D 31 3F
I'm kind of astonished to see so many people here running the flash plugin without a problem. Unless the definition of 'without a problem' changed somewhere.
I run it in Ubuntu (karmic, 64-bit) and it sure is the worst piece of shitware I got. Whenever I have a page with flash plugin, cpu stays fixed at 100% usage (well, at 25%, because luckily I'm on a quad-core). Also, the plugin segfaults more than my tests when I was learning assembly. After a few days turned on, last lines of my dmesg are always something like:
[562380.585402] npviewer.bin[8191]: segfault at ff999ed8 ip 00000000ff999ed8 sp 00000000ffe4d0ec error 14
[565094.972209] npviewer.bin[10145]: segfault at 1020000 ip 0000000001020000 sp 00000000ffc9727c error 14 in npviewer.bin[8048000+23000]
[572699.544263] npviewer.bin[11284]: segfault at ff999ea8 ip 00000000ff999ea8 sp 00000000fff58c0c error 14
[575806.593733] npviewer.bin[14840]: segfault at ff999ea8 ip 00000000ff999ea8 sp 00000000ffebc38c error 14
npviewer.bin is the flash plugin.
Really, am I the only one who has any problems with this? Sometimes, it even hangs firefox for several seconds before giving back control.
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Would somebody like to give a convincing reason for running 64 bit browser and extensions rather than the 32 bit versions? I can't work out why one would want to do so.
it's useless and a trap, ignore Flash.
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I've been running this since I saw it announced on Slashdot a year and some ago (and linked to the same article, I think). It's better than Alpha quality, IMHO. Still slow as hell. At least they got the sound-out-of-sync-with-video problem on youtube fixed.
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There is absolutely no place for proprietary standards on the web.
Both flash and silverlight need to die.
Just imagine what would happen if HTML was proprietary: the web would never have taken off as it has now.
There is a perfectly good alternative for vector graphics on the web: SVG is an open standard.
It works very well e.g. on iPhones.
At least apple is not polluting the internet with crap as Microsoft and Adobe do with SilverLight and Flash.
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https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=294003
Also, Adobe didn't bother fixing 6month old security bug:
http://flashcrash.dempsky.org/
Adobe suck really big. But why somebody would post such a stupid "news" in the slashdot?..
I can start using the 64 bit Linux Flash plugin that I've been using for over a year now...
(not that I really blame the editors that much - Adobe haven't exactly gone out of their way to advertise it)
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Great! So now where is the Linux ARM version, hm?
Uh, Linux geek since 1999.
Now, this is not to nit-pick - but I can see that your use of "suck[s]" is incorrect.
In your example, you opted to use the verb "sucks" with an object, yet you failed to produce the object.
"Adobe sucks really big." is missing an object, perhaps you mean: "Adobe sucks a really big dick."
Your second example tries to use the verb "suck" without an object, yet you failed at that too.
"Adobe does suck really big." might be: "Adobe does suck really hard." Or perhaps: "Adobe does suck my really big dick really hard."
Even in slang, you may simply end the phrase with "sucks" as in: "Adobe sucks."
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