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Web Browser Grand Prix

An anonymous reader writes "After seeing Opera's claim to 'Fastest Browser on Earth' after their most recent release, Tom's Hardware put Apple Safari 4.04, Google Chrome 4.0, Microsoft Internet Explorer 8, Mozilla Firefox 3.6, and Opera 10.50 through a gauntlet of speed tests and time trials to find out which Web browser is truly the fastest. How does your favorite land in the rankings?"

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  1. Link by mingot · · Score: 4, Informative
    1. Re:Link by Snowblindeye · · Score: 4, Insightful

      A lot of these speed tests always compare javascript performance, which I have to say matters less for me on a day to day usage than other things.

      At the end of the article (10 pages later), they do break it out into categories. The winner of the 'page load' category is: Firefox.

      I care about other things as well, startup times for example (won by Opera), but if I had to pick one most important category for me, it's page load times. YMMV, obviously.

      Shortcut to summary: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/firefox-chrome-opera,2558-10.html

    2. Re:Link by verbalcontract · · Score: 2, Informative

      And the conclusions:

      Category / Test: Overall Winner

      Startup Times: Opera

      Memory Usage: Firefox

      Page Load Times: Firefox

      HTML: Safari

      CSS: Safari

      Tables: Safari

      JavaScript: Chrome

      PeaceKeeper: Opera

      Acid3: Chrome

      DOM: Chrome

      Flash: Opera

      Java: Opera

      SilverLight: Firefox / Internet Explorer

    3. Re:Link by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 2

      Memory Usage Recount.

      He just did static 'load page look at memory usage' tests. Which is fine. If you only load 10 tabs of pages and never visit anything else.

      Firefox constantly eats memory on my MacBook. If I have both Firefox and Photoshop open, Firefox consistently eats more memory than Photoshop. Things will grind to a halt until I kill Firefox.

      It was enough to get me to jump ship to Chromium, where aside from the occasional Flash Plug-crash, doesn't require being reset every hour.

    4. Re:Link by Dumnezeu · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I care about other things as well, startup times for example (won by Opera), but if I had to pick one most important category for me, it's page load times. YMMV, obviously.

      I care about security and safety, so I just avoid IE. I care about privacy so I avoid Chrome. I care about bloatness so I avoid Opera. I care about functionality so I choose Firefox. I think it's the lesser of all evils. Correct me if I am wrong.

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    5. Re:Link by ChronoReverse · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm curious as to which version you're using, whether you used a clean profile, and which plugins you're using.

      My own testing of Firefox doesn't ever show the massive memory leaks often claimed.

    6. Re:Link by Enderandrew · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Firefox has an intentional feature where they keep fully rendered pages in memory so they can reload faster when you hit back. They also keep full tab sessions in memory after you close tabs. You can turn these features off if you don't like them.

      That being said, I leave Firefox open for days, if not weeks. I run tons of tabs, Greasemonkey scripts, extensions, etc. I haven't seen memory leaks since the Firefox 2.0 days.

      I keep considered switching to Chrome, but Greasemonkey scripts still don't work properly, and I can't stop ads from loading. (Chrome adblock solutions render the ad even there is malicious code, but hides it from showing)

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    7. Re:Link by Dracker · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Firefox with even just a couple extensions is WAY more bloated than Opera.

    8. Re:Link by element-o.p. · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The other day, I turned JavaScript off on my browser (I had a reason...maybe testing or annoyed by ads on a page...I don't remember exactly), but forgot to turn it back on after I was done with whatever it was that I was doing. A little later, I opened FF again, and wondered why so much of the content I expected to see in my browser was missing.

      As you said, YMMV, but I would say that JavaScript execution time is pretty much every bit as important as page load unless you have limited your web browsing to pages created back in the '90s.

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    9. Re:Link by DMUTPeregrine · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I have quite a few extensions*, 512MiB memory cache capacity set, and rarely see Fx using more than 550MiB of RAM. I don't have to reset it every hour, or even every day. *23 to be precise: Adblock Plus, All-in-One Sidebar, AutoPager, BetterPrivacy, DownThemAll!, FireGestures, Gmail Manager, Greasemonkey, Image Zoom, Leet Key, Morning Coffee, NoScript, Nuke Anything Enhanced, Password Hasher, PDF Download, RSS Ticker (CPU hog, that), Session Manager, Stylish, TACO, Tree Style Tab, Update Notifier, XUL Profiler, Youtube Comment Snob. Firefox 3.5.8, running on a Kubuntu 9.10 system. There could be Mac specific bugs, or some extension or plugin problem. But Firefox has gotten much, much better about actually freeing up RAM with the newer versions.

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    10. Re:Link by rtaylor · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It isn't bloat if they are features you want. It is only bloat when they are features somebody else wanted.

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    11. Re:Link by obarthelemy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      very frankly, as long as its in the same ballpark, speed don't matter.

      I find Tom's article ridiculous, for at least 2 reasons:

      1- they focus on performance, and disregard features completely. That's their choice, but it's an idiotic one

      2- they compare perfs in wildly different configs: a fully usable Opera (with its integrated mouse gestures, adblock, noscript, synch...) vs a unusable barebones Firebox with 0 addons.

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    12. Re:Link by houghi · · Score: 2, Insightful

      At the end of the article (10 pages later), they do break it out into categories. The winner of the 'page load' category is: Firefox.

      Now what would slow down my browsing experience more? The browser or the 10+ pages the article is spread over?

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  2. Re:A link to the article would be nice. by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The link was in the original submission. ScuttleMonkey apparently is too much of an idiot to remember to have copied that along when posting.

  3. But...but... by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 2, Funny

    "After seeing Opera's claim to 'Fastest Browser on Earth' after their most recent release, Tom's Hardware put Apple Safari 4.04, Google Chrome 4.0, Microsoft Internet Explorer 8, Mozilla Firefox 3.6, and Opera 10.50 through a gauntlet of speed tests and time trials to find out which Web browser is truly the fastest. How does your favorite land in the rankings?"

    I use Lynx you insensitive clod!

  4. Re:Slashdotted by number17 · · Score: 5, Funny

    No, it's just slow because you are using IE.

  5. Re:Of course ... by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And am I the only one who finds it fucking cynical in the extreme, to force you to surrender your email address just so you can use the printable version and skip the advertising crud ?

    They only want to provide such a feature to members of the site. What's cynical about that?

  6. Re:Chrome = teh winnar! by roju · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Although Firefox somehow wins the "Page Load Times" category, which seems more important to me than javascript benchmark speed.

  7. You newbie by MrEricSir · · Score: 5, Funny

    Lynx is for newbies. Real men telnet to port 80 and type in the HTTP headers manually, then parse the response in their minds.

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    1. Re:You newbie by StikyPad · · Score: 3, Funny

      Mere child's play. Real men telnet on port 443.

    2. Re:You newbie by HaZardman27 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm pretty sure it's there, it's just disabled by default in Vista and 7. You need to the add or remove Windows features window to install it.

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  8. If you want a fast web browser... by John+Hasler · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...block all ads with Privoxy and shut off Javacrap.

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  9. is Safari startup time really surprising? by nxtw · · Score: 4, Informative

    Besides the obligatory browser code, Safari on Windows uses a lot of libraries that only get used by Safari - CoreFoundation, CoreGraphics, CFNetwork, the Objective-C runtime, and its own GUI (a limited Win32 port of Cocoa?). It also uses libraries that could be shared and/or duplicate builtin Windows functionality - such as sqlite3, zlib, libxml2, libxslt, and pthreads. (I imagine it uses its own SSL implementation too.)

    The IE startup time seems higher than it should, because it uses the most Win32 functionality. It uses threading, SSL, XML, etc. from Win32.

  10. Favorite Browser by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How does your favorite land in the rankings?

    If it's your favorite browser, what does it matter how fast it is?

  11. Page load times... by cplusplus · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...was won by Firefox, according to the summary at the end. Isn't that what the average user cares most about? How fast a page loads?

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    1. Re:Page load times... by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I wonder how reliable the JS script they've used to determine when page has finished loading really is. Could it be that browsers that report higher scores in the test are simply more truthful about what they finished loading? (e.g. do all of them correctly account for plugins?).

      There's one other thing. Historically, the usual trick employed by browsers is to delay rendering the page until it is partially loaded, so as to not constantly re-render. This speeds up the overall page load, but starting to render faster may well show the important parts of the page (those that user cares about) earlier, and if the renderer is fast enough, re-rendering the page repeatedly as it is being downloaded may look "smoother" from user's perspective, and be more usable.

      I know that this setting is configurable for Opera, though I don't recall what the default one is. I think it's also configurable for Firefox. IE always has a pretty significant delay there, and I believe it's hardcoded. No idea about Chrome & Safari. Anyway, my point is that, if this setting varies by default, timing of complete page loads can give quite differing results which are not reflective of actual user experience.

    2. Re:Page load times... by izomiac · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Startup time is the most visible, and essential for when you want to quickly check a single website (e.g. googling something really quick). Javascript speed is the limiting factor for web apps, flash speed for gaming.

      Page load time is important, but dwarfed by network latency and speed in non-pathological cases, so I'd actually guess it's among the least important for end-users. Also, while there was a 20% difference between fastest and slowest, that's only about 1/26th of a second so it's approaching the limits of human perception. That said, ignoring 40 ms here, 50 ms there will lead to users finding a program laggy but not being able to specifically point out what's slow.

  12. Functionality More Important Than Speed by amustic · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Firefox may not be the fastest, but with its builtin function plus rich array of addons, it's the most useful.

  13. Re:Chrome = teh winnar! by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 4, Informative

    And one of them was Apple's, another was Mozilla's and another was an independent 3rd party's test suite.

  14. Re:Chrome = teh winnar! by ircmaxell · · Score: 2, Informative

    Remove that test from the results, and Chrome still wins. But look at the results of that test. Chrome wins, yes. But not by a HUGE margin (the difference between second and third is larger than 1st and 2nd). At least it's not as bad as the Dromaeo test (Where Opera is out in front by so far, it seems more like a bug in the test than a win for Opera)...

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  15. Re:So? by Joce640k · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Only one browser in the list has adblock/noscript/flashblock.

    Without those the other browsers are automatically losers no matter how fast they start up.

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  16. Performance I care about is hard to measure by nxtw · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I care about things like responsiveness. How long does it take to redisplay after switching tabs or adjusting zoom? Is the UI still responsive when another tab/window is busy? Are scrolling and window resizing smooth? Will the browser respond well if the internet connection is lost / the system wakes up from sleep, when using AJAX applications like Gmail/Google Reader? (I had problems with one browser behaving badly with Gmail/Google Reader if the pages were open before entering sleep mode.) Will the browser perform well over RDP, VNC, or NX?

    Start-up time isn't very significant - I generally leave browsers running all the time. Memory usage isn't very significant unless the system is low on memory. Otherwise, I prefer that the browser uses as much memory as it can to cache things. Rendering/script delays are not noticeable on modern systems.

    1. Re:Performance I care about is hard to measure by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I care about things like responsiveness. How long does it take to redisplay after switching tabs or adjusting zoom? Is the UI still responsive when another tab/window is busy?

      Speaking of responsiveness, one neat thing about Opera 10.50 - all tab-specific dialogs are modal to the tab, not to the entire browser window. This means that, if a tab loading in background displays a JS alert, it doesn't suddenly pop up in your face requiring immediate attention - instead, the tab will get a marker indicating that something changed - and you can freely switch back and forth between tabs without closing the dialog first.

  17. Re:So? by BitZtream · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You are misinformed, I presume you are refering to Firefox, however Chrome and IE both have extensions to do roughly the same thing.

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  18. Re:So? by PRMan · · Score: 2, Informative

    Do tell. Since I've never found a per-site whitelister like NoScript on anything else.

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  19. The winner, hands down, is ... by PPH · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... wget.

    Real geeks read straight html.

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  20. Re:If you want a fast web browser... by thomst · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...block all ads with Privoxy and shut off Javacrap.

    And then browse with blazing speed ... the 3 web sites that remain partially functional without Javastuff, that is.

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  21. Chrome memory usage by l00sr · · Score: 3, Informative

    Once again, calculating Chrome's memory usage is not as simple as summing the memory usage of all its processes, because shared libraries are only loaded once. It's unclear as to whether these benchmarks took this into account. More info here.

  22. Re:So? by clone53421 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    For very rough values of “roughly the same”.

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  23. Did anyone actually look at the tests? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If you look at the results, they are all pretty similar, except IE. While Opera and Chrome barely win a few more times than Safari and Firefox, the reality is that the results are all largely similar and no one product really is much different than the others in performance. If the tests were weighted differently, or if the analysis used standard deviation instead of place, you'd find no real difference in any of these, again, except IE, which clearly did not fare well in these tests. Just my 2 cents--I don't hate any of them and even IE has people that like it, despite the fact that it is slower.

  24. Re:So? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Your right. Opera winds hands down... Oh? You where talking about a plug in that is only supported by Firefox and not built-in? Then all of them support t don't they? Or does Safari not have plug-ins?

  25. Re:A link to the article would be nice. by Brian+Gordon · · Score: 4, Informative

    Google Chrome comes out on top and the writer seems to make a good case for it.

    The most interesting conclusions seem to be:
    -Firefox is the most memory efficient with multiple tabs (!)
    -Opera uses a lot of memory
    -No browser really has a performance advantage across multiple sites (for example Facebook is really optimized for IE for some reason)
    -Even professional writers don't know how to use the word "faze"